S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)

[Gikkle]

Ok giggle you sound like a smart player please explaine how you lived 2 days in a row with you at L1 the second day? With 4 mafia alive?

I've explained this kind of thing before. Y'all look at the numbers but not at who is on the wagons, and for what reasons. Scum couldn't have gotten me killed for one of two reasons:

1) Every single member of the scum team was already on my wagon (Auwt, Oberon, PQR, and Paopan was my wagon D1, and D2 it was Auwt, jmw, Paopan, Mike, Loldebite, PQRnHack)
2) Scum were split/off wagon but could NOT move onto my wagon as it would contradict their established reads and would make them look awful once I flipped town. (Jmw, MM, Oliverz were all stuck on Paopan's side of the wagon due to their public thread positions. Luona publicly stated that they did not think I was a good lynch, so voting me would have contradicted that.)

There's also the third scenario, where scum are purposefully leaving me alive because I'm such a controversial figure. AKA, they see me as a mislynch and would rather keep me for MYLO where I can be picked off!

The only people completely free to move around, iirc, were you, light yagami, and loldebite. If you're all town, then that's the reason I'm still alive. Oberon also could have voted me D2. The fact he didn't, despite the fact he had a public suspicion of me which is justification enough to do so, implies he's either town or he's doing scenario #3.

This doesn't cover everything but it's a good enough explanation as to why I wouldn't be dead after all this.

[Light_Yagami]

If You Follow The Votes I Wish I Had Logged Every Single Vote Change But Dont Have Time For That..

[Mike]

Mayor is a good check for tonight .

[PQRnHack]

TAKE NOTE. I WILL REPEAT.

OBERON TOLD ME GIKKLE IS SCUM BUT DIDNT VOTE HIM ON DAY 2. HOW'S THAT??

And I told you Frinckles was scum

[Mike]

@pqrhack can you please make a night chat only 3 me light and viggy only ??? Not you in it. I want to be able to trust the people in it sorry I don’t fully trust you yet.

[PQRnHack]

@pqrhack can you please make a night chat only 3 me light and viggy only ??? Not you in it. I want to be able to trust the people in it sorry I don’t fully trust you yet.

I make my own decisons, why do you ask for this?

[Light_Yagami]

Im Totally The Dumbest Player.. That Plays This Game... Im Just The Worst..

[Mike]

I make my own decisons, why do you ask for this?

Becise I know light is town and I belive viggy is town he has been open and honest even when I called him on a mistruth he did not cover it up he admited to it and openly shared it with you all with out me even asking him to. Dude has been honest from the get go with me.

[Mike]

I make my own decisons, why do you ask for this?

I think you are town pqrhack or else why make the night chat you did

[NotPaopan]

And I told you Frinckles was scum

I dont consider him as scum in day 2.

To be honest this game wouldve been easier if Gikkle is dead. But no one wants to hammer.

If escort RB vig again he is scum. Simple as that.

[NotPaopan]

Mayor is a good check for tonight .

Dont you say?? Im the scummiest player on day 1 yet you didnt check me.

[Mike]

Dont you say?? Im the scummiest player on day 1 yet you didnt check me.

Day 1 light was the scummiest to me.

[Light_Yagami]

Day 1 light was the scummiest to me.

[Mike]

Dont you say?? Im the scummiest player on day 1 yet you didnt check me.

All I know is you and gikkle are not same alignment. No way mafia missed 2 hammers with 4 alive. I woidl say you and gikkle mafia team but the way you want him dead so bad I can not see you being same side.

So if he flips mafia I think you are town if he flips town you are mafia. Or via verse if you flip mafia he is town and if you flip town he is mafia. But no one wants to flip eather of you so town is stuck with 0 info.


I am also pissed my check was killed last night this is why I am not trusting the escort. He role blocked the viggy to shoot gikkle that would have helped town a lot no matter alignment. And the fact my noght check is dead.

[Mike]

You know why. We have already hashed this out.

[luona]

Luona didn't even do their job. That's the whole point. The fact scum killed Frinckles heavily implies mafia knew he wouldn't be protected.

i didnt do my job...
but my job was to protect marshmellow
so how does my job make me sus in light of the nk instead of making marshmellow sus..? his job was to protect frinckles

Yeah And BD Needs To Swap PPL Like No Tomorrow.. Never Miss A Swapping

Correct louna do not location to others telling you who to swap but swap me MM light only one of us with someone else that you scum read. Don’t tell us who untill tomorrow.

ill keep these in mind for tonight!

Plot twist: CD is Bandit 😪

im not bandit but nice try

Gut feeling tells me nobody = self-bussed CD

whats this mean? lag told me i couldnt target myself when i tried before :<

I'd prefer they not be able to mess with anything. I don't trust them at all. I want the Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor to be able to do stuff without being messed with.

i don't mind being roleblocked if its what everyone thinks is the right thing to do. ive said this before.

also why do you keep calling me giggle

can i call u giggle as well its cute

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my top scumreads today i think (theyre not in any order):
-oberon : i think his na choices were super weird and scummy.
-marshmellow : i think hes kinda suspicious, since we had the chain me x him x frinckles, and it was his goal to be on frinckles its too convienent!!

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these are my im not sure if i trust them ones:
-pqrnhack : i still feel weird about him due to loldebite rbing him n1, but after the frinckles nk im not really sure anymore. that kill really just seemed like an attempt to make him look even worse because of how frinckles was his hardest attacker.
-gikkle : is weird but im not sure if he fits in with this team, maybe he fits with marshmellow..? i think its weird how he waited a bit before putting his vote on me, despite me being apparently the best lynch..?
-paopan : i dont think hes been all that helpful for the past few days, and i feel as if he could be teamie with some of my scumreads here

[Mike]

I was reading the night chat jmw dude you said you where shooting gikkle before the night actions where locked in

[Light_Yagami]

I was reading the night chat jmw dude you said you where shooting gikkle before the night actions where locked in

This Seems Important..

[Mike]

At 2:19 you said you where leaning to gikkle over Papo then at 259 you said you are shooting gikkle

[Mike]

That waz41 mins to lock in a night action. Yes escort knew you where shooting gikkle. Explaine you knew he was shooting gikkle and you roleblocked the viggy. So now lodbite are you saying you town read gikkle?????

[Mike]

Gikkle (7 [L-1]):
Auwt, jmw, NotPaopan (Mayor), Mike, Loldebite, PQRnHack

NotPaopan (1 [L-7]):
Marshmallow Marshall

PQRnHack (4 [L-4]):
Light_Yagami, Frinckles, luona, Gikkle

Auwt (1 [L-7]):
oliverz144

Light_Yagami (1 [L-7]):
Oberon

Lodbite was on the train to lynch gikkle how do you go from scum reading him to lynch him to town reading him enough to save him from viggy shot??

[Mike]

Overnight when he was not in our chat???? Please explaine.

[Mike]

Lodbite saves gikkle giving town 0 info jailer jails my green check who is an invest lookout who would have seen who visited freckles who died in the night. Who happened to be my check. I mean wtf. Eather we found mafia or town is helping mafia what is it??

[NotPaopan]

Screw that @luona

Not been helpful?? We could've have more answers if you hammer Gikkle yesterday. Then you'll say you scum read him today??

Yeah yeah, very helpful indeed compared to our Lord Mayor.

[Light_Yagami]

You know why. We have already hashed this out.

Remember When I Said Oberon Was Echoing You.. Basically He Was Trying To Pocket You..

[Light_Yagami]

I Figured Out Who Im Watching Tonight... Im Ready Ta Lynch... I Was Sitting Here And Like Who Would I Watch Tonight... I Was Like Hmmm Hmm... Hmmm.... I Rolled A D20 And Now I Know...

[Mike]

Light what do you think is more likly gokkle Oberon lodbte +1 or mayor auwt pqhack?

[Mike]

The more I think about it should we just lynch gikkle town gets more info from gikkle flip.

[Mike]

Light??????

[Light_Yagami]

Light what do you think is more likly gokkle Oberon lodbte +1 or mayor auwt pqhack?

I Think The Escort Is Definitely In On It.. PQrnhacks Could Be.. But The Interaction Between Him And Finckles Makes Me Town Lean Him Slightly.. Oberon Gains High Suspicion.. Because He Jailed Me Even After You Got A Green Check On Me.. And I Addressed This Every Time It Was Brought Up By Him.. Goggle Seems Sus For Wanting Escort To Block CD Was Suspicious.. However Based On Their Commentary Over All... I Feel A Middle Ground Lean On Goggles Slot.. Auwt Is Low Energy This Game.. Like I Said Why Would Anyone Visit Confirmed Vet..



Wait I Have An Idea.. Let Me Think On It A Couple Of Minutes... Hmmmm..... Thinking Intensifies..

[Mike]

[vote]gikkle[\vote] looking at his iso the save the escort did for him after voting him. Living 2 days of trains. I mean really? living past a viggy shot. I know escort rb him. I wish escort did not role block. Him his flip would have helped alot.

[Mike]

[vote]gikkle[\vote] looking at his iso the save the escort did for him after voting him. Living 2 days of trains. I mean really? living past a viggy shot. I know escort rb him. I wish escort did not role block. Him his flip would have helped alot.

-vote Gikkle

[Light_Yagami]

@pqrhack can you please make a night chat only 3 me light and viggy only ??? Not you in it. I want to be able to trust the people in it sorry I don’t fully trust you yet.

You Mean Light Viggy CD And Mike.. I Have An Idea.. Its A Long Shot But Could Work..

[Mike]

-vote Gikkle

Let’s see if Oberon is willing to vote gikkle??

[Mike]

You Mean Light Viggy CD And Mike.. I Have An Idea.. Its A Long Shot But Could Work..

Ok I am game let’s do it if pqrhack is willing

[Gikkle]

Thank you askef of me, i mean. But you know what i meant.

[vote]gikkle[\vote] looking at his iso the save the escort did for him after voting him. Living 2 days of trains. I mean really? living past a viggy shot. I know escort rb him. I wish escort did not role block. Him his flip would have helped alot.

Are you just ignoring what I said about wagon composition?

[Gikkle]

Are you just ignoring what I said about wagon composition?

I do not know where that PQR quote came from lol. Must have accidentally clicked multi quote.

[Mike]

Are you just ignoring what I said about wagon composition?

No but you can’t tell me you town read this guy after last night.

[Mike]

Are you just ignoring what I said about wagon composition?

No but you can’t tell me you town read this guy after last night.

[Gikkle]

No but you can’t tell me you town read this guy after last night.

Which guy?

[Light_Yagami]

Ok I am game let’s do it if pqrhack is willing

If He Does He It Will Help In Me Town Reading Him..

[Mike]

Are you just ignoring what I said about wagon composition?

You want to lynch protective or role block them. Explaine also why escort saves you after voting you that same night. You have to admit this is odd as hell.

[Mike]

Which guy?

You I ment that for light I got confused

[Gikkle]

You want to lynch protective or role block them. Explaine also why escort saves you after voting you that same night. You have to admit this is odd as hell.

Yes, because Frinckles dying implies scum was confident enough that he wouldn't be protected. This can only be the case if MM or Luona is scum.

Also, sure, that's odd from your perspective, but from my perspective, since I know I'm town, I don't really see why Lolde would do this unless this was some play by him and Jmw, which is unlikely, so lolde is probs town to me.

[Light_Yagami]

No but you can’t tell me you town read this guy after last night.

No I Dont Town Read The Escort At All Or I Have A Heavy Scum Lean On Oberon But If He Does As He Is Told.. I Might Forgive..

@Oberon Jail And Execute The Escort... Take The Escort Out Of The Game... If You Cant Honestly Convince Me That This Happened... Your A Dead Man...

[Mike]

Yes, because Frinckles dying implies scum was confident enough that he wouldn't be protected. This can only be the case if MM or Luona is scum.

Also, sure, that's odd from your perspective, but from my perspective, since I know I'm town, I don't really see why Lolde would do this unless this was some play by him and Jmw, which is unlikely, so lolde is probs town to me.

My POV is simple your flip would have helped a lot. I did not check you becise I thoght there was a god chance you where going to be shot by viggy.

Let’s say you are town what the hell is mafia doing? They could have killed you in a lynch saving you as a mislynch is not adding up. Ok if we let you live I check you tonight let’s say I end up dieing tonight. Don’t you think I would need protection to let town know my read?

[Gikkle]

My POV is simple your flip would have helped a lot. I did not check you becise I thoght there was a god chance you where going to be shot by viggy.

Let’s say you are town what the hell is mafia doing? They could have killed you in a lynch saving you as a mislynch is not adding up. Ok if we let you live I check you tonight let’s say I end up dieing tonight. Don’t you think I would need protection to let town know my read?

I've explained several times what mafia would have been doing in the lynches. You're not listening to me, though. You keep looking at the number of votes, and not the actual wagon compositions themselves.

There is a lookout and a doctor. I want to take out the bus driver, who is more likely to mess with your result in the first place. I want the doctor to protect me. The lookout can watch you. I can choose who to protect with my own discretion, that way mafia can't work around it.

[Mike]

My thoughts are all over the place. I am trying to pretend you are town but it is verry hard.
I also have the feeling I will not love to see tomorrow with you knowing I will be checking you.

[Mike]

I've explained several times what mafia would have been doing in the lynches. You're not listening to me, though. You keep looking at the number of votes, and not the actual wagon compositions themselves.

There is a lookout and a doctor. I want to take out the bus driver, who is more likely to mess with your result in the first place. I want the doctor to protect me. The lookout can watch you. I can choose who to protect with my own discretion, that way mafia can't work around it.

And if you are mafia lookout dies in the night. Bad plan.

[Gikkle]

And if you are mafia lookout dies in the night. Bad plan.

If I WERE mafia, you'd get my result. A lookout dying in return for you getting me lynched seems like a good trade.