S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)

[oliverz144]

Myself and PQR, but this is an awful pool and idk why you're having doubts on people but saying scum have to be outside of those players?
MM and Oliverz should not be outside this pool, and if you think I'm scum then this pool is automatically bust unless you think the team is Vigi / Jailor / Veteran / Coach Driver lol.

i thaught you town lean me?
and now im in poe?
and you safe auwt?

[jmw]

i thaught you town lean me?
and now im in poe?
and you safe auwt?

I wouldn't say you're necessarily PoE but I'm not towncoring you.

I'm also not "safe"ing auwt. The guy has not done much of anything productive other than sneer at everyone from his high horse but flipping him here doesn't really help us a lot.

[oliverz144]

Hm. Interesting, jmw, you are kinda right, and kinda not. If auwt scum, then paopan is too scum. If auwt town, paopan is too town.
and @Auwt i think that you + porn is possible too.
especially coz he asked jmw in card chat not to kill auwt and paopan.

[Auwt]

Hm. Interesting, jmw, you are kinda right, and kinda not. If auwt scum, then paopan is too scum. If auwt town, paopan is too town.
and @Auwt i think that you + porn is possible too.
especially coz he asked jmw in card chat not to kill auwt and paopan.

I want him to vote Gikkle actually.
Waiting for it.

[Auwt]

I still don't get why Loldebite roleblocked jmw.
Like they both were in a same chat.
Why wouldn't everyone just tell jmw to no-pick, like was it really needed to roleblock him anyway, considering you could have reasoned him.

I would have understood this roleblock if you had not been sharing messages but uh.

[Loldebite]

I still don't get why Loldebite roleblocked jmw.
Like they both were in a same chat.
Why wouldn't everyone just tell jmw to no-pick, like was it really needed to roleblock him anyway, considering you could have reasoned him.

I would have understood this roleblock if you had not been sharing messages but uh.

Because i, unlike some, do not know who are my allies.

[Auwt]

Because i, unlike some, do not know who are my allies.

If that's a spike directed at me, yeah I do know who my ally is.

[Auwt]

Because i, unlike some, do not know who are my allies.

To clarify, you could've forced him not to kill and if he had still done, it you would have had the members of the card party to testify.

[NotPaopan]

MYLO

Current Town: 8 Current Scum: 4
Vote needed to lynch someone: 7

Special variables (If Town):

Jailor Characteristic: Imbecile
Outcome: 99% would execute town if no lynch on day 2

Vigilante Situation: Roleblocked
Outcome: Can't execute the Bandit; Gikkle

Town Prots: Wouldn't expect anything from the Doctor and CD (One, or both are scum)
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Day 3 starts:

Current Town: 5-6 Current Scum: 4

Vote needed to lynch someone: 6

Yeah. Good luck uniting town tomorrow.

If you start to create a train outside of Gikkle and Loldebite, you are 100% scum or an idiot town.

[Loldebite]

MYLO

Current Town: 8 Current Scum: 4
Vote needed to lynch someone: 7

Special variables (If Town):

Jailor Characteristic: Imbecile
Outcome: 99% would execute town if no lynch on day 2

Vigilante Situation: Roleblocked
Outcome: Can't execute the Bandit; Gikkle

Town Prots: Wouldn't expect anything from the Doctor and CD (One, or both are scum)
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Day 3 starts:

Current Town: 5-6 Current Scum: 4

Vote needed to lynch someone: 6

Yeah. Good luck uniting town tomorrow.

If you start to create a train outside of Gikkle and Loldebite, you are 100% scum or an idiot town.

Explain to me why you see me being scum

[NotPaopan]

Day 3 Start:
Vote needed to lynch someone: 6

Current Town: 6-7 Current Scum: 4

Edited 5-6 to 6-7

[NotPaopan]

Explain to me why you see me being scum

Your RB decision doesn't make any sense. That's why. Only scum would role block a vigi twice in a row.

[oliverz144]

I want him to vote Gikkle actually.
Waiting for it.

huh?
gikkle train is scum motivated.
only scum can push it through 3 days and 2 nights, with lots of other opportunities, and directions to think at.

[oliverz144]

MYLO

Current Town: 8 Current Scum: 4
Vote needed to lynch someone: 7

Special variables (If Town):

Jailor Characteristic: Imbecile
Outcome: 99% would execute town if no lynch on day 2

Vigilante Situation: Roleblocked
Outcome: Can't execute the Bandit; Gikkle

Town Prots: Wouldn't expect anything from the Doctor and CD (One, or both are scum)
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Day 3 starts:

Current Town: 5-6 Current Scum: 4

Vote needed to lynch someone: 6

Yeah. Good luck uniting town tomorrow.

If you start to create a train outside of Gikkle and Loldebite, you are 100% scum or an idiot town.

so you say
a) all roles useless
b) you maybe scum
c) gikkle and lolbit conf scum

what did i just read?!?

[NotPaopan]

Ignore Oliver's slot. He didn't tell anyone he got shot on night 1.

[Auwt]

huh?
gikkle train is scum motivated.
only scum can push it through 3 days and 2 nights, with lots of other opportunities, and directions to think at.

I mean you are also a possibility, but let's not rush you, you will be next after Gikkle, wait your turn.

[NotPaopan]

Oliver is 100% scum if Gikkle flips bandit. He's been Gikkle's rat pet the whole game.

[NotPaopan]

I want a Gikkle vote. But we can't lynch Gikkle without LY and Mikes vote. Fellow bandits will definitely not bus their teammate; Gikkle.

[oliverz144]

I mean you are also a possibility, but let's not rush you, you will be next after Gikkle, wait your turn.

so gikkle town=im conf town??

[NotPaopan]

so gikkle town=im conf town??

Yeah sure. Place your vote to Gikkle.

[Loldebite]

If that's a spike directed at me, yeah I do know who my ally is.

It was not. Is your ally paopan ? Do you actually feel like he's acting like a first-time town, mayor at that, now ?

To clarify, you could've forced him not to kill and if he had still done, it you would have had the members of the card party to testify.

Oh, i see. i'll give you the whole thought process, then : i was fine with him killing until i figured out we'd have 3 kills, which i was scare of. I really considered blocking luona, too, but ended up deciding against it because i was afraid it'd mess with our prots' plan. I considered blocking ability-less roles once again, namely oliver & oberon, but decided against it because it would be expected this time. I figured town was not in a bad position, so i figured we might as well keep the vigi shot and play D2 on LY's flip, as i explained earlier.
I doubt i'd have been able to convince anyone in that chat, but tbh i did not even consider it, because at first i was fine with him shooting.

[Loldebite]

Your RB decision doesn't make any sense. That's why. Only scum would role block a vigi twice in a row.

Twice in a row ? wtf are you on about, how could you forget about the PQR thing ?

[NotPaopan]

Twice in a row ? wtf are you on about, how could you forget about the PQR thing ?

Naww. That's a farce.

I don't buy your PQ roleblock.

[NotPaopan]

Scums targeted MM. CD bussed MM and Oliver. Oliver self-attacked = No scum kill

[NotPaopan]

Scums targeted MM. CD bussed MM and Oliver. Oliver self-attacked = No scum kill

If this is true. Scum are as follows:

Gikkle, Oliver, Loldebite, Oberon

[Loldebite]

If this is true. Scum are as follows:

Gikkle, Oliver, Loldebite, Oberon

Why am i on that list ? Why couldnt i have targeted PQR and be legitimately thing i might've blocked the kill ?

[Loldebite]

and legitimately think*

[Auwt]

so gikkle town=im conf town??

Not really, but since the first requirement cannot be met, the whole equation is pretty much useless to answer.

[Loldebite]

If this is true. Scum are as follows:

Gikkle, Oliver, Loldebite, Oberon

Why didnt oberon execute, why is literally half the people alive not a tiny bit suspect, how did frinckles die there are so many things you seem confidant about and i cant see why you'd be t

[Loldebite]

Why didnt oberon execute, why is literally half the people alive not a tiny bit suspect, how did frinckles die there are so many things you seem confidant about and i cant see why you'd be t

I mean, N1 you refuse to believe frinckles got attacked, but N2 it seems believable... WHY ?

[NotPaopan]

I mean, N1 you refuse to believe frinckles got attacked, but N2 it seems believable... WHY ?

right now.

65% attacked BG and healed (makes the most sense)
15% PQ has KPI and was RBed
15% loldebite is lying asf
5% they didn't kill

Oh? Care to give an instance? anyone you can associate with PQ?

Scum. You're a fucking liar.

And recently, I was pertaining to MM switch. I didn't mention Frinckles recently? Wtf are you talking about scum?

[NotPaopan]

Why didnt oberon execute, why is literally half the people alive not a tiny bit suspect, how did frinckles die there are so many things you seem confidant about and i cant see why you'd be t

Ohhhhh you suspect Oberon. Where's your vote again? It is on Oberon?

Of course not, you're taking advantage of the voting system. Standing by, chilling out.

[Mike]

Everyoen agrees mayor gikkle there is one mafia between then but they are not teamsed correct?

Second if we don’t lynch a scum today and mayor is scum we lose. Unless viggy shoots mayor. If mayor and viggy both scum sum wins tomorrow if they all get on same time and hammer. But if viggy is town he can shoot mayor in the night if escort flips town giving us another day.

[Mike]

Everyoen agrees mayor gikkle there is one mafia between then but they are not teamsed correct?

Second if we don’t lynch a scum today and mayor is scum we lose. Unless viggy shoots mayor. If mayor and viggy both scum sum wins tomorrow if they all get on same time and hammer. But if viggy is town he can shoot mayor in the night if escort flips town giving us another day.

But if mayor is town we lose so wtf e Rey one suggests???

[Loldebite]

Scum. You're a fucking liar.

And recently, I was pertaining to MM switch. I didn't mention Frinckles recently? Wtf are you talking about scum?

Now you claim Frinckles was not attacked and healed, correct ? Then why was he attacked n2 ?...

[Mike]

We have to lynch today we HAVE or mafia wins. We have to hit a mafia

[Auwt]

Why didnt oberon execute, why is literally half the people alive not a tiny bit suspect, how did frinckles die there are so many things you seem confidant about and i cant see why you'd be t

I believe we've already discussed about how Oberon's course of action is either not towny at all to even scummy.
You got to focus on big fishes.
How did Frinckles die ? Great question.
Best way to answer this is to ask MM (if he hasn't already stated why).

[Loldebite]

Ohhhhh you suspect Oberon. Where's your vote again? It is on Oberon?

Of course not, you're taking advantage of the voting system. Standing by, chilling out.

No... YOU suspect oberon...

[Auwt]

We have to lynch today we HAVE or mafia wins. We have to hit a mafia

Don't tell this to Oberon, he might think you are scum because you are referring to a situation where we are close to losing.
:wink: :wink:

[Loldebite]

I believe we've already discussed about how Oberon's course of action is either not towny at all to even scummy.
You got to focus on big fishes.
How did Frinckles die ? Great question.
Best way to answer this is to ask MM (if he hasn't already stated why).

Who's that we ? Certainly not you & paopan.
So you disagree with paopan about his scum list, great, i'd rather talk to a human being : give you yours and tell why you trust this clown

[Loldebite]

give me yours*
today is hard

[Mike]

Don't tell this to Oberon, he might think you are scum because you are referring to a situation where we are close to losing.
:wink: :wink:

Town is 2 devided. I am ok with loldbite with Oberon gikkle or mayor alll posible mafia from my POV

[Mike]

Town is 2 devided. I am ok with loldbite with Oberon gikkle or mayor alll posible mafia from my POV

I was willing for you awut but the fact you are just as worried as me I am not as ok today with us this close to loseong

[Auwt]

Who's that we ? Certainly not you & paopan.
So you disagree with paopan about his scum list, great, i'd rather talk to a human being : give you yours and tell why you trust this clown

Who else if not us?
We have been stating that Oberon's choice are literally anti-town, you can check it (might 4-5 pages ago) and we refresh it quite often nah?

Do I disagree with Paopan's scumlist?
As far as I remember the scumlists matched almost perfectly nah?

Scumlist :

GO-TO: Gikkle
Next : Oliver
Pick-2-from there : Oberon, Loldebite, MM.

Not excluding jmw.
He went up in my book for now, don't ask me why.

Gikkle is scum
Oliver will be scum if Gikkle is scum imo
Oberon is (1) a delusional town player || (2) scum

[Mike]

Who else if not us?
We have been stating that Oberon's choice are literally anti-town, you can check it (might 4-5 pages ago) and we refresh it quite often nah?

Do I disagree with Paopan's scumlist?
As far as I remember the scumlists matched almost perfectly nah?

Scumlist :

GO-TO: Gikkle
Next : Oliver
Pick-2-from there : Oberon, Loldebite, MM.

Not excluding jmw.
He went up in my book for now, don't ask me why.

Gikkle is scum
Oliver will be scum if Gikkle is scum imo
Oberon is (1) a delusional town player || (2) scum

Town we have to pick mafia.

1 giggle
2 mayor if we pick wrong we are not in a good spot.

[Loldebite]

Who else if not us?
We have been stating that Oberon's choice are literally anti-town, you can check it (might 4-5 pages ago) and we refresh it quite often nah?

Do I disagree with Paopan's scumlist?
As far as I remember the scumlists matched almost perfectly nah?

Scumlist :

GO-TO: Gikkle
Next : Oliver
Pick-2-from there : Oberon, Loldebite, MM.

Not excluding jmw.
He went up in my book for now, don't ask me why.

Gikkle is scum
Oliver will be scum if Gikkle is scum imo
Oberon is (1) a delusional town player || (2) scum

Paopan is claiming he has the game solved, and never considers MM nor luona a suspect, in case you didnt notice. I wouldnt call that perfect match but w.e, if even paopan's scummates cant make sense of what garbage spews out the hellhole of a mouth, i dont know why i even try.

-vote NotPaopan

[Loldebite]

If paopan somehow flips town (lmao), then jmw has to shoot Gikkle.

[Mike]

If mayor is mafia and viggy are both mafia but I doubt viggy is mafia we lose if we lynch gikkle. If gikkle is mafia we still lose becise gikkle can use mayors votes and win for mafia. We are in lie low now damit

[Mike]

-unvote

we have to lynch one of the 2

[Auwt]

Paopan is claiming he has the game solved, and never considers MM nor luona a suspect, in case you didnt notice. I wouldnt call that perfect match but w.e, if even paopan's scummates cant make sense of what garbage spews out the hellhole of a mouth, i dont know why i even try.

-vote NotPaopan

I don't blame him for not considering any of them.
If MM and/or Luona is/are scum, this would need a long-time projection to actually guess their alignment.
Their keyword right now is 'uncertainty'

Just be sure if you take this way, let's suppose Gikkle goes down and flips bandit, you would look really bad.