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    How many chances should a person be given?

    Paris Wilder got killed recently trying to kill some cops. The guy had been arrested 40 times with 23 felony's and was on bond for 2 more felonys with 2 more felony warrants.

    This is kind extreme but begs a very real question of 'how many chances are too many?' How many are not enough? Its not cool to throw someone in a cage without the chance for redemption but where do you draw that line and how do you justify that?

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    Re: How many chances should a person be given?

    A self thought out reason for an arbitrary number would come from a hubris that's just mental imho.

    If there's a way to justify a number, then only by something that has a empirical basis. Loosen up the justice system for some time and evaluate the numbers - see after how many incidents there's 0% hope based on statistics.

    But, tbh, the example that you pointed out only shows a rehabilitation inadequacy of the justice system. Are you sure you're asking the right questions here?
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    Re: How many chances should a person be given?

    The terribly unhelpful, yet correct answer is: it depends. Should you forgive someone who killed 10 people in cold blood at once VS should you forgive someone who stole a car is not the same at all. It depends on the person's intent for the future, on whether or not the person is a danger for society and itself, etc.

    Coming up with a number would be completely arbitrary and usually inaccurate.
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    Re: How many chances should a person be given?

    NONE! Fuck you, fuck me, fuck everyone!
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    Re: How many chances should a person be given?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Paris Wilder got killed recently trying to kill some cops. The guy had been arrested 40 times with 23 felony's and was on bond for 2 more felonys with 2 more felony warrants.

    This is kind extreme but begs a very real question of 'how many chances are too many?' How many are not enough? Its not cool to throw someone in a cage without the chance for redemption but where do you draw that line and how do you justify that?
    Wait was he charged 23 times? or convicted of 23?
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    Re: How many chances should a person be given?

    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    Quran 9:123 "O you who believe, fight those disbelievers who are near you, and let them find severity in you. Know well that Allah is with the God-fearing."
    I prefer the love spreading Muhammad over the warmongering Muhammad.
    I wish they just deleted the latter from the Quran.

    There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger, but Muhammad is a stupid fuck who couldn't handle not gaining any followers for when he was preaching love - so he said [I]"fuck it, let's fearmonger with conquering and torturing"[./I]
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    Re: How many chances should a person be given?

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    A self thought out reason for an arbitrary number would come from a hubris that's just mental imho.

    If there's a way to justify a number, then only by something that has a empirical basis. Loosen up the justice system for some time and evaluate the numbers - see after how many incidents there's 0% hope based on statistics.

    But, tbh, the example that you pointed out only shows a rehabilitation inadequacy of the justice system. Are you sure you're asking the right questions here?
    Why are you pretending this is anything other than the argument you and Helz had spilling over into a different thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
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    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

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