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  1. #51

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I don’t think anyone has actually expressed agreement with Helz getting banned? Rumox and oops both disagreed with what Helz said and both yet said they were complete bitches for banning him.
    Hey, don't forget me! Although "complete bitches" may not have been anyone's wording or thought extent lol.

    The only things that makes me say the ban was illegitimate per MU standards (excluding the concept of who is right or whether or not the standards are legitimate themselves), even if it had been a temporary one, are:
    - Warnings are a thing, and were given to other people (like people who have been consistently insulting and belittling others in games... I have a particular somebody in mind...).
    - They're clearly not respecting their own rules/customs by extending the ban to the forums as well, and this without an even seemingly legitimate reason to do so. It's not like Helz did something significantly worse than "standard rulebreaks", afaik.
    - As I already said, they have a public responsibility because of the platform nature of their site. If they didn't want that, then they had to... not be the hosts of the Championship and the general platform for FM.

    Also, Firebringer, I would love to see you witch-hunt cucumbers into pickles XD.
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  2. #52

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post

    Also, Firebringer, I would love to see you witch-hunt cucumbers into pickles XD.
    Alright MM try not to be so horny. Firebringer can pickle your cucumber in private
    Last edited by aamirus; September 15th, 2021 at 12:15 PM.
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  3. #53

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Alright MM try not to be so horny. Firebringer can pickle your cucumber in private
    Last edited by Marshmallow Marshall; September 15th, 2021 at 12:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
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    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
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    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
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    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  4. #54

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Itís somewhat beside the point if the ban was according to their rules or not. If their rule states that a dude can be banned for saying that then their rule is retarded. This is not a government, itís just an online community centered around a game. It does not need to be managed strictly anymore than youíd manage a group of friends strictly.
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  5. #55

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Itís somewhat beside the point if the ban was according to their rules or not. If their rule states that a dude can be banned for saying that then their rule is retarded. This is not a government, itís just an online community centered around a game. It does not need to be managed strictly anymore than youíd manage a group of friends strictly.
    I would express agreement in Helz getting banned, but only if it followed their own rules. Exactly because they are not the government, they should be even more free to allow or disallow content based on whatever standards they so choose. Anything less than that would be a violation of MU's right to free speech.

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  7. #57

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Itís somewhat beside the point if the ban was according to their rules or not. If their rule states that a dude can be banned for saying that then their rule is retarded. This is not a government, itís just an online community centered around a game. It does not need to be managed strictly anymore than youíd manage a group of friends strictly.
    Counterpoint: I was in a group of friends once and one of my friends kept inviting this loser who nobody liked and we ended up banning that one friend from inviting loserdude ever again.

  8. #58

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    I have not responded or kept up with the thread because I went out to work on an oil rig in New Mexico. I will try to take some time and more clearly explain my thoughts when I have time but I am hurting for sleep right now. I am sure with a bit of time I can convey my points without it getting muddled to hell and I am sure the reason they were is that I had such difficulty even looking at this situation or thread sober. Itís effecting me much more than it should and spilling into my work this week but finally talking about it has helped.

    I will say I feel MU and the MU moderation team should be looked at as separate things in my situation and even if the moderators have a highly questionable culture of moderation and make bad calls it does not mean MU is not a good community. Just look at how shitty Americaís leaders are but itís still a pretty nice place to visit. The championships and the articles there are excellent for the global community and tons of the people there are genuinely awesome.

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  12. #62

    Re: My Perma-Ban on MU

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    So what do we got here in the end? Here's my summary:

    1. A justified ban due to a combination of
    1.1. "We arenít interested in discussing your opinions further. Itís about people being offended by what youíre saying and what their interpretation of your words is, not what your intention behind the words may be." - which is well in line in 99% of their bans.
    1.2. Majority here, of those who read the debate, having the same interpretation as the mods on MU
    2. A questionable extent of the ban - arguably against their own established rules

    3. A public humilation with out of context quotes combined with denying the ability to defend himself.
    4. An inexcusable aftermath of the ban, with not even allowing for an appeal.

    That's about it for me how I view this atm.
    Having said that, I'll drop this topic for at least a while if not for forever. I'm feeling a dissonance and I'm quite certain I'm having a lack of objectivity in this now.
    I forgot one..
    5. They technically lied to their community on two occasions:
    5.1. They made it sound like Helz had the option for an appeal.
    5.2. Their stated reason for the ban does not correlate with their stated reason in their email to Helz.


    Their sincerity with the public is shown to be wanting.
    Their post-ban treatment of those banned is questionable, though understandable to an extent.
    The extent of this particular ban can be viewed as extreme, but it's under their "0 zero tolerance" policy.

    Despite all those bad attributes, the ban itself goes in line with the line of thought of virtually all their bans.

    For the extent of the ban, I've suggested them to have a list of punishments per crime. They and their community disagreed, so there's nothing more than can be done there.
    Wrt their sincerity/openness with the public and their post-ban treatment of those banned - that's their mod teams business.

    @Helz for me, this settles every aspect of this topic that I think of atm.
    Is there something else that you desire to get out of this?



    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I donít think anyone has actually expressed agreement with Helz getting banned? Rumox and oops both disagreed with what Helz said and both yet said they were complete bitches for banning him.
    Yah, you misunderstood something about what I said.
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    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

 

 

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