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  1. #51

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Btw this is not an exaggeration I literally had someone tell me to my face that it's "scary" that we've been conditioned and brainwashed into taking baskets when we go to the grocery store.
    Would it be false of me to automatically assume that they're likely schizophrenic and likely to believe in conspiracy theories?
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  2. #52

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    As opposed to the egregious abuse of human rights thatís been going on for the past 2 years, in the form of lockdowns, curfews, and forcing people to get vaccinated you mean? But I forget socialists care not for rights but for money.
    Ah yes, we missed the bashing of the libtards. Glad someone's here to be the literal authority on human rights violations.

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  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    Wow, was eradicating smallpox and polio through vaccinations a bad thing, Oberon?

    Businesses can always rebuild and people in the west have more than enough shit to do at home without needing to be at a restaurant, bar, or sports game. This is like the the easiest pandemic to endure in the history of mankind. I'm talking to some dumb-dumb anti-vaxxers in a different country from me without me having to leave home while I pull up 20 tabs of hardcore hentai to watch waiting for some poor immigrant to deliver pizza to me. We're living like kings and queens compared to Black Death, smallpox, etc. And if we do go outside, it's a fucking piece of fabric covering your nose and mouth. I deadlifted 405 lbs while wearing one so if I can do that and anti-vaxxers can't, what does that say about their health?

    Don't confuse being inconvenienced with being oppressed.
    Since you agree with forced vaccinations because they are good you must also agree with slavery because it is undoubtedly similarly effective? A workforce that works for free is every managerís dream.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
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  4. #54

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Ah yes, we missed the bashing of the libtards. Glad someone's here to be the literal authority on human rights violations.
    What would I do without you trying to stoke flames every time I say something?
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  5. #55

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    And here’s what your precious little vaccine has done: https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths
    According to that website in terms of total deaths from all causes 2020 was an average year. Where is this unbelievably deadly virus coming into play?
    Last edited by Oberon; September 19th, 2021 at 03:56 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  6. #56

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    And hereís what your precious little vaccine has done: https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths
    According to that website in terms of total deaths from all causes 2020 was an average year. Where is this unbelievably deadly virus coming into play?


    Bro you headass you posted numbers that left out an entire month and a half in 2020 and compared it to full year numbers from previous years. How can you do shit like this and still think "yes, I am intelligent and my opinion on these matters is correct"

    Fucking THINK before you post garbage from some stupid ass Spanish health blog lmao.

  7. #57

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Yeah, and Iím quite sure that one month (most of it btw in January when there was no COVID) made all the difference!
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

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  10. #60

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    I missed this, ngl
    I didn't, on the contrary... not constructive and not fun. People are not trying to prove their point is right, they're trying to prove the others wrong out of spite.
    Last edited by Marshmallow Marshall; September 19th, 2021 at 08:19 AM.
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    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
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    God is a goofy loser.

  11. #61

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I didn't, on the contrary... not constructive and not fun. People are not trying to prove their point is right, they're trying to prove the others wrong out of spite.
    What's not constructive is posting literal fake news and misinformation lmao.

    Or I suppose that to you, making shit up is just as bad as other people telling someone to stop making shit up?

  12. #62

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I didn't, on the contrary... not constructive and not fun. People are not trying to prove their point is right, they're trying to prove the others wrong out of spite.
    I don't entirely agree on the not constructive part.
    Despite what philosophers have thought about reasoning for 2000+ years, I do believe that the last 50+ years of experiments showcasing the human inadequacy of being objective on their own makes for a good case to believe in the hypothesis that human reasoning has evolved to only convince others and to judge the given reasonings of others in return.
    There's value in someone being the devil's advocate, even if it starts flawed, because arguing is essential in my view.

    Though I agree that it wasn't so productive here as of yet, but I'd definitely never discourage it and always welcome it for as long as it's honest and not just trolling.
    Last edited by OzyWho; September 19th, 2021 at 10:08 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  13. #63

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Big brain thought: leaving out 10% of an entire year won't make a big difference in number of deaths for that year.
    And according to you the missing month is enough to account for the nee figure of 3.3mln deaths? Which is more than 10% btw?

    If there was no COVID prior to March, and we assume COVID caused excess deaths, then we must also assume that the death toll PRIOR to covid would be lower than the death post-COVID. But this is not the case. 400,000 people died in January and 5 days if December - if we say thatís 10% of thw year then more people than expected died BEFORE COVID, which makes no sense lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  14. #64

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    And according to you the missing month is enough to account for the nee figure of 3.3mln deaths? Which is more than 10% btw?

    If there was no COVID prior to March, and we assume COVID caused excess deaths, then we must also assume that the death toll PRIOR to covid would be lower than the death post-COVID. But this is not the case. 400,000 people died in January and 5 days if December - if we say that’s 10% of thw year then more people than expected died BEFORE COVID, which makes no sense lol
    Where the fuck are you getting 3.3m deaths? Are you looking at WORLDWIDE deaths comparing them to total deaths in the US?

    I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say in the second paragraph. This is simple man. This doesn't even have to do with COVID, this is basic arithmetic. You're comparing an entire year of data in 2019 to 11 months of data in 2020 and drawing some weird conclusion about how excess deaths only increased by 2%. Even if you're right about COVID you're still making an extremely basic numbers mistake.

    If you're actually not trolling I suggest you take the L here man. Even actual children know that you can't compare 12 months of numbers to 11 months of numbers.
    Last edited by oops_ur_dead; September 19th, 2021 at 12:45 PM. Reason: bit rude

  15. #65

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    And here’s what your precious little vaccine has done: https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths
    According to that website in terms of total deaths from all causes 2020 was an average year. Where is this unbelievably deadly virus coming into play?
    2019 - 2,855,000
    (source: https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths or, as stated there, taken from cdc)

    2020 - 3,358,814
    (source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm)

    a 17.6% increase

    now you guys can stop arguing and mag can pretend he didn't read this

    OH and if you want to argue 17.6% more people dying is not a big increase, then you can look at your own site which shows the past 5 years with the highest increase of any of those years being 3.28%, or in other words, 1/5.37 vs. the increase from 2019-2020.

    And this number includes january and february and the first half of march when covid had barely touched the US yet. So the number would look even WORSE for you mag if this were going from say april 2020 - april 2021.
    Last edited by aamirus; September 19th, 2021 at 09:26 PM.
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  17. #67

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Americans (especially the right wing) have got way too used to "muh liberties" and lost all sense of what it means to live in a society.

    Imagine these types in the WW2 era, USA would've lost the war.

    Polio vaccine came out, there weren't anti vaxxers. You shut your fucking mouth, got in line, and got the shot.

    It isn't always about you.

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  20. #70

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    cdc only goes through march 2021 so far so looks like if we do march 2020 - feb 2021 we get 3.523 million or a 23.4% increase over 2019, but oh my god it was an average year and covid did nothing
    Hospital ICUs in the south are full, in September, way before a flu season.

    But there's no problem here!

  21. #71

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    You know what's funny, is that I totally expected Oberon to be an anti vaxxer.

    Vaccines are political now, it is sad.
    I haven't seen him post about advocating to not get the vaccine, but if you do, let staff know so it can be deleted.

    Unfortunately, we do allow blatant misrepresentation of arithmetic.

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  22. #72

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I haven't seen him post about advocating to not get the vaccine, but if you do, let staff know so it can be deleted.

    Unfortunately, we do allow blatant misrepresentation of arithmetic.
    I guess I'm just assuming, reading between the lines of "And here’s what your precious little vaccine has done" kind of stuff.

    But I haven't seen anything explicit.

    Fake news!
    Last edited by Renegade; September 19th, 2021 at 09:47 PM.

  23. #73

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Texas introduced bounty laws for abortions, I think it is time for blue states to introduce bounty laws for vaxxines.

    If someone gets sick from COVID and misses work, they can sue anyone they came in contact with that was unvaccinated in the past week for lost wages plus damages.

    If someone dies because the ICU is full of anti vaxxers, they can all be sued for taking up critical resources for extremely easily preventable issues.

    Repubs opened a can of worms if we are going to start to allow vigilante bounties to enforce laws.

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  25. #75

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Yeah the 3.3 mln deaths is bullshit
    Sweden doesnít have the same increase (in fact there is no increase, theyíve had worse years recently). The US and other developed countries have more Ďdeathsí but itís funny how at the end of December there were 400,000 fewer deaths. Funny how that works.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  26. #76

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    You're the one who brought up the 3.3m number you idiot lmao of course it's bullshit, nobody but you knows where it came from or what it means.

    Your point about Sweden is another lie. You can literally look this up and find the numbers: https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statis...998-2020-year/

    I have no idea where your 400k fewer deaths figure came from or what it means. Seems like you're just randomly throwing out numbers you read on random no-name blogs and Fox News segments without context.

    Look man this has nothing to do with COVID at this point, you're just actually lying and spreading fake news to suit some political agenda. Every single one of your points so far has been demonstrably and objectively false. Surely it must give you pause when you think that it's a valid point to compare a sum total of 11 months of data to a sum total of 12 months of data and draw a conclusion about increase in that total. Honestly, if you genuinely think that's a valid approach and you're not trying to save face or trolling, then you really aren't nearly as good at figuring out numbers as you might think you are. I thought you went to university for this stuff?

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  28. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  29. #79

    Re: covid 19 vaccine



    This is the second time in the same thread that you've posted total death numbers for a year while leaving out an entire month of that year.

    You've gotta be trolling dude. It takes actual mental deficiency to do this multiple times without realizing.
    Last edited by oops_ur_dead; September 20th, 2021 at 02:20 AM.

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  33. #83

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I guess I'm just assuming, reading between the lines of "And hereís what your precious little vaccine has done" kind of stuff.

    But I haven't seen anything explicit.

    Fake news!
    nah, i think he's trying to imply that covid deaths are fake news, which is something some of my family members say.

    i feel bad about moving this thread to circle jerk though, even though it's just one guy ruining the thread.

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  34. #84

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    nah, i think he's trying to imply that covid deaths are fake news, which is something some of my family members say.

    i feel bad about moving this thread to circle jerk though, even though it's just one guy ruining the thread.
    Moving this thread to circle jerk when a serious discussion is ongoing, and... the only one trolling was actually you with that half-assed comment about bashing libtards? LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  35. #85

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post


    This is the second time in the same thread that you've posted total death numbers for a year while leaving out an entire month of that year.

    You've gotta be trolling dude. It takes actual mental deficiency to do this multiple times without realizing.
    That is the projected number of deaths you fucking idiot
    here's a better graph that instead shows the mortality rate (not the total number of deaths).
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  36. #86

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Funny how that's not that high, is it? Literally every year prior to 2012/2013 was worse for Sweden than last year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  37. #87

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    2019 - 2,855,000
    (source: https://www.myessentialnews.com/post/usdeaths or, as stated there, taken from cdc)

    2020 - 3,358,814
    (source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm)

    a 17.6% increase

    now you guys can stop arguing and mag can pretend he didn't read this

    OH and if you want to argue 17.6% more people dying is not a big increase, then you can look at your own site which shows the past 5 years with the highest increase of any of those years being 3.28%, or in other words, 1/5.37 vs. the increase from 2019-2020.

    And this number includes january and february and the first half of march when covid had barely touched the US yet. So the number would look even WORSE for you mag if this were going from say april 2020 - april 2021.
    Yeah funny how that works. On the 26th of December the number of deaths was around ~2.9mln but now it jumped up by 400,000. This actually does not make sense. If you think about it, the missing data was all from January + 5 days from December. That's 36 days (36 / 365 = ~10%). The extra 400,000 deaths in the final figure are more than 10% of that 3.3mln (I don't want to calculate how much that is and it's not really important, what's important is that it's >= 10%). BUT, 31 of those 36 days were before the pandemic arrived in the US so how could more than 10% have died in 10% of the year if that 10% was supposed to have a lower number of deaths (due to no COVID) than the rest of the year?
    Last edited by Oberon; September 20th, 2021 at 10:26 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

  38. #88

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    That is the projected number of deaths you fucking idiot
    here's a better graph that instead shows the mortality rate (not the total number of deaths).
    ??? Why would you look at the projected number of deaths for 2020 when 2020 has already happened and we can see the actual number of deaths lmao

    Idk where your chart came from but you realize that you can look at the actual Sweden Data Source SCB website and see the numbers for yourself and maybe have your first original thought in your life that didn't come from the media or a random WordPress blog

    https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statis...998-2020-year/
    https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statis...998-2020-year/
    https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statis...998-2020-year/
    https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statis...998-2020-year/
    https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statis...998-2020-year/



    Oh look it's the actual original source data from the Swedish mortality statistics

  39. #89

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Moving this thread to circle jerk when a serious discussion is ongoing, and... the only one trolling was actually you with that half-assed comment about bashing libtards? LOL
    So you are saying that covid deaths are fake?

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  40. #90

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Yeah funny how that works. On the 26th of December the number of deaths was around ~2.9mln but now it jumped up by 400,000. This actually does not make sense. If you think about it, the missing data was all from January + 5 days from December. That's 36 days (36 / 365 = ~10%). The extra 400,000 deaths in the final figure are more than 10% of that 3.3mln (I don't want to calculate how much that is and it's not really important, what's important is that it's >= 10%). BUT, 31 of those 36 days were before the pandemic arrived in the US so how could more than 10% have died in 10% of the year if that 10% was supposed to have a lower number of deaths (due to no COVID) than the rest of the year?
    Yea, it states directly on the CDC page that they are provisional counts which experience a time lag in reporting and get updated as new data is received. Even on your site, it shows a screenshot indicating that only data from jan-june 2020 was available at: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/p...nal-tables.htm when your author wrote his article.

    Here is the direct source your author takes a screenshot of to get his death count for 2020 - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
    Scroll down to the table and click the blue yearly button to see the count for 2020 is, as i am writing this, 3,390,023


    Spoiler : your source, published nov 2 2020 and last updated feb 2: :


    Spoiler : the current cdc page :


    If you're just going to insist the CDC had a conspiracy to first report a lower number to make the libs look bad and then later change it to a higher number to make the libs look good.... well then i don't know what to tell you. It would be a sad existence to only trust figures that agree with your political views. In that conspiracy warped world, why would the CDC have reported the "real" numbers initially?

    Is it really so hard to believe that on feb 2nd 2021, the states and counties have not yet all reported their finalized death totals for 2020?

    Even on your website, they show these two pictures:
    Spoiler : 2019 from mag's site :


    Spoiler : 2020 jan-june from mag's site :


    Do you notice how march onwards all the death counts for 2020 are significantly higher than 2019, especially april the first month the pandemic hit in full swing?

    Spoiler : current cdc page monthly data :


    Notice the second wave hitting from thanksgiving->winter when idiots stopped following lockdown rules and started travelling again?
    Last edited by aamirus; September 20th, 2021 at 03:26 PM.
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  41. #91

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Yeah funny how that works. On the 26th of December the number of deaths was around ~2.9mln but now it jumped up by 400,000. This actually does not make sense. If you think about it, the missing data was all from January + 5 days from December. That's 36 days (36 / 365 = ~10%). The extra 400,000 deaths in the final figure are more than 10% of that 3.3mln (I don't want to calculate how much that is and it's not really important, what's important is that it's >= 10%). BUT, 31 of those 36 days were before the pandemic arrived in the US so how could more than 10% have died in 10% of the year if that 10% was supposed to have a lower number of deaths (due to no COVID) than the rest of the year?
    and, by the way, 400,000 is only around 12% of 3.3 million, so it's not far off from 10% and again, your source took the figure at feb 2nd 2021, when not all death counts across all counties and states were finalized for 2020.

    In fact, directly from the CDC site your source directly links repeatedly (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/p...nal-tables.htm) it clearly states "Provisional counts may differ by approximately 2% from final counts, due to rounding and reporting variation."

    So, there is literally all 12% of the difference accounted for. happy?
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  42. #92

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    let's conspiracy theorize and say the 2% is made-up by the evil libs! Okay, take YOUR figure of 2.9 million which YOUR site shows is missing 10% of the year. Add 10% of 2.9 million to 2.9 million and you get 3.19 million, aka still a total increase of 11.7% over YOUR source's value for 2019.

    Of course just adding an exact 10% is wrong and ignores variance in death rate throughout the year. The correct values are shown above, after all. Of course, if you believe covid is a hoax then january 2020 and the end of december 2020 should have been at the highest death rates of the year since it's in winter, so we'd have to add MORE than 10%. But even when we use only YOUR OWN source, even if we underestimated just to make you look better, you are STILL CLEARLY WRONG.
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  43. #93

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    @Oberon

    Exactly one year ago you posted this graph in the skwirl discord

    and we discussed how it's not accurate because it doesn't show all of the data. Your picture cut off 9 months of data. The graph displayed on the website cut off 5 months of data. You posted outdated data from a website that was already posting outdated data.

    You literally ADMITTED to not reading all of the data.


    It is now a full year later.

    My question to you is simple: how have you not learned in the last year that you need to do all of your own research before starting an argument? You can't just find random graphs from random sources. Anyone can make a graph look like how they want it to look. Hanlon's razor tells me that you aren't doing this on purpose, I don't think you're maliciously manipulating data to create a false premise because you're here trying to peddle it still. Where are you getting your data from? What is your method of finding these half-baked statistics?
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  45. #95

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    It's sad that y'all have to expel so much effort to, point by point, deconstruct someone's argument; this individual being someone that has shown multiple times to wade into an argument refusing to even read sources let alone understand them.

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  46. #96

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    It's sad that y'all have to expel so much effort to, point by point, deconstruct someone's argument; this individual being someone that has shown multiple times to wade into an argument refusing to even read sources let alone understand them.
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  47. #97

  48. #98

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    and, by the way, 400,000 is only around 12% of 3.3 million, so it's not far off from 10% and again, your source took the figure at feb 2nd 2021, when not all death counts across all counties and states were finalized for 2020.

    In fact, directly from the CDC site your source directly links repeatedly (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/p...nal-tables.htm) it clearly states "Provisional counts may differ by approximately 2% from final counts, due to rounding and reporting variation."

    So, there is literally all 12% of the difference accounted for. happy?
    Here we go again. 10% of deaths came from a period when there was no COVID but that means that in that period there was an AVERAGE number of deaths compared to the rest of the year. How does that occur in the context of a deadly virus when the virus hadnít even been introduced yet? It should be lower than 10% in January.
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  49. #99

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE FOR JANUARY TO HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF DEATHS AS THE REST OF THE YEAR AS COVID HAD NOT BEEN INTRODUCED YET? IT SHOULD HAVE A LOWER NUMBER OF DEATHS.

    it’s basic fucking math and common sense
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