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  1. ISO #151

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I think the better word is confirmation bias, Renegade.
    Don't you think it'd have been slightly better of you to ask for circumstances before making any presumptions?
    Like, I don't think there'd be any confirmation bias involved if he was rushed to hospital right after the injection. I don't know the full story. But these presumptions I'm hearing here of "evil deliberate scare tactics" or proclaiming confirmation bias before knowing any of the circumstances - they're worrying to see for me.

  2. ISO #152

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Don't you think it'd have been slightly better of you to ask for circumstances before making any presumptions?
    Like, I don't think there'd be any confirmation bias involved if he was rushed to hospital right after the injection. I don't know the full story. But these presumptions I'm hearing here of "evil deliberate scare tactics" or proclaiming confirmation bias before knowing any of the circumstances - they're worrying to see for me.
    I mean, that's what I'm saying.

    Saying things like "so and so a friend of so and so said someone who got the shot is dying from it".

    Need more information.

    Otherwise, why say it at all?

  3. ISO #153

  4. ISO #154

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Don't you think it'd have been slightly better of you to ask for circumstances before making any presumptions?
    Like, I don't think there'd be any confirmation bias involved if he was rushed to hospital right after the injection. I don't know the full story. But these presumptions I'm hearing here of "evil deliberate scare tactics" or proclaiming confirmation bias before knowing any of the circumstances - they're worrying to see for me.
    I genuinely thought saying something is confirmation bias is nicer than scare tactics, bc the latter implies something sinister.

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  5. ISO #155

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    I admit, if my mom died from the vaccine, i'd probably find it hard to advocate getting the vaccine, but (barring something genetic), I should still try and remember death from covid is orders of magnitude more likely.

    That's hypothetical me fighting confirmation bias, right?

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  6. ISO #156

  7. ISO #157

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    On the issue of numbers dead from the vaccine when I looked at the CDC data set a while back I want to say it was around 20 something thousand. I was going to pull it up to reference here but it looks like now you have to get approved to view it and such. Probably to curve an anti-vax argument.

    I personally still wont get it given its effective time line. It does not look like infection rates are really being impacted. I also question how the argument changes to 'Its not suppose to prevent you from getting it, its suppose to make it less lethal if you get it' when discussions about people getting it who are already vaccinated. That basically invalidates the ethical premise for mandating it by saying 'if everyone got it the problem would go away.' And if that was the goal wouldent it make more sense to get 7.7 billion vaccinations stocked up and do everyone at once?

    Still, I think the risk of death is tiny and if they come out with one that lasts forever, or even at least 10 years or so I will probably go for it. Until that happens I don't think this pandemic will ever end.

    Something tangential I am curious about hearing you guys thoughts on is the molnupiravir treatment. I was talking with my family about it who have careers in healthcare and they saw it as the largest risk. It basically hurts the virus by mutating it which greatly increases the chances for the virus to create another stable (and potentially more deadly/contagious) variant in a virus that is otherwise extremely low mutating. Im not sure if this is something discussed in news outlets or not given I dont really use them but I have been surprised how many people I have talked to about it have not even herd of the issue.

  8. ISO #158

    Re: covid 19 vaccine

    It looks like most scientists no longer consider it an appropriate management strategy for the virus that causes COVID-19.

    -The vaccine does not prevent individuals that have it from spreading it
    -The vaccine does not totally prevent individuals that have it from getting sick
    -The vaccine is effective for a very short amount of time
    -Only 70% of Americans got the vaccine sense it was available (Some due to the dangers of getting it)
    -Production and supply chain limitations make it improbable to have everyone get the vaccine at once for 3-6 months which seems the only way to achieve herd immunity

    Im curious if anyone's opinion has changed. Especially on the note of mandated vaccines and boosters. I feel like requiring individuals to take the risks involved with the vaccine is only justified by the potential of eliminating it and if herd immunity is not attainable its not ethical.
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    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

 

 

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