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    S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Bisected Souls


    ROLE LIST 7-3


    Corrupted Soul
    Corrupted Soul
    Corrupted Soul
    Soul
    Soul
    Soul
    Soul
    Soul
    Soul
    Soul



    Spoiler : Rolecards :


    Spoiler : SOUL :


    Soul : You are a regular soul.
    You have no special power apart from your right to vote.
    You may share this role with your soulmate you signed up with.
    If you are playing with a soulmate, at each beginning of a new day, you have to rotate/change your place with your other soulmate.
    During night time, you must give a token to a player of your choice.
    Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice.

    Ascended Soul : You have split up from your soulmate, therefore you both became Ascended Souls.
    Your number of token will be set to 0.
    You cannot earn tokens anymore, nor give them.
    You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
    You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore.


    Spoiler : CORRUPTED SIDE :


    Corrupted Soul : You are a corrupted soul.
    You have no special power apart from your right to vote.
    You may share this role with your soulmate you signed up with.
    If you are playing with a soulmate, at each beginning of a new day, you have to rotate/change your place with your other soulmate.
    You receive double the amount of tokens you are supposed to earn from the Souls, and normal amount from the Corrupted side.
    During night time, you must give a token to a player of your choice.
    No factional kill.
    You have a night chat with all the members of the Corrupted side.
    Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice.


    Ascended Corrupted Soul : You have split up from your soulmate, therefore you both became Ascended Souls.
    You still can earn tokens and would receive double the amount you are supposed to get.
    You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
    You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore (out of the night chat).
    You have a night chat with all the members of the Corrupted side.
    Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice.




    How many players?

    Total of 10 roles.
    Up to 2 persons per slot/role.

    Max possible (full-house) : 20P
    Min possible : 10P


    The Shop

    Spoiler : Shop :


    Item Price Description
    Power:
    Glue
    2
    tokens
    Cancel the buy of any items the player of your choice would do, for the duration of this night and the following one.
    Power:
    Health
    2
    tokens
    Become invulnerable for the duration of this night.
    Power:
    Luck
    2
    tokens
    Earn an amount of token, RNG'd by the host (range from 0 to 4).
    Power:
    Destruction
    5
    tokens
    Kill a soul.
    Power:
    Ascension
    6 tokens Ascend with your soulmate, breaking up into two Ascended Souls, or setting your vote count to 2, if you do not have a soulmate.


    *You cannot buy twice the same item.
    *You can only buy one item a night.
    *Those are only one-time use items.
    *The items will be used the night you bought them.
    *You do not have to use all your tokens at once, and it can be saved over for a future shop.
    *All of the Powers:Glue happen at the same time.
    *All of the Powers:Destruction happen at the same time.


    OoO

    Glue > Luck/Health > Destruction > Ascension




    MECHANICS :

    Days last 48H, Nights last 24H.
    Voting system is Plurality+Majority.
    In case of a vote tie, coinflip.
    Skip votes and suicides are not allowed.
    Death notes and last wills are allowed.
    No death descriptions.


    At each beginning of a day phase (apart from D1), if you signed with a soulmate, then swap with them (one account can post the other cannot, in a rotation).

    A shop will be open during each night phase.
    Each player has to give a token to another player, each night (but they don't lose it from their savings)
    The tokens are given at the end of the night and can be used at the start of the following night.

    Any amount of token passed from a player to another will be rounded down.

    Ascending as a soul will :
    A) Split your slot into two new slots from the same faction. (if you play with a soulmate)
    B) Set your vote count to 2. (if you play without a soulmate)



    WIN CONDITIONS

    The Souls : Eliminate all of the members of the Corrupted Side.

    The Corrupted Side : Control 50%+ of the total of votes.


    RULES

    *Out of game communication is allowed, but only with your soulmate.
    Anonymous accounts are allowed, as long as you respect the swapping each day.

    General FM rules apply to this setup.
    General Forum Mafia Rules, by FM staff.
    No personal attacks.
    Last edited by Auwt; September 5th, 2021 at 01:01 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Can you double the amount of tokens for each token instance to avoid decimals? No reason why people should receive .5 tokens instead of just... 1 token.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    congrats you're an inspiration to pedophiles everywhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    I'm sure.. 100% clownbomber16 is scum. I'll suck my own dick if I'm wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    if you are still confused i have a stellar comeback which involves more insulting of the french.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Can you double the amount of tokens for each token instance to avoid decimals? No reason why people should receive .5 tokens instead of just... 1 token.
    Yeah, thanks.
    Makes more sense that way indeed !
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Can you double the amount of tokens for each token instance to avoid decimals? No reason why people should receive .5 tokens instead of just... 1 token.
    But floating point arithmetic is fun
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Naz will die, i can promise you this, i visited there home, i shared the wealth, placed my book on their nightstand and said every man a king 3 times so they will die from my glorious contagion of my political program
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    You sure you dont want to lynch Voss again? he may flip scum this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    mags my highest townread and i think hes scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatseOntheCupboard View Post
    NOT TOWN = NOT INNOCENT

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Earn an amount of token, RNG'd by the host (range from 0 to .



    If you are a solo-player and don't share your slot with someone, when you ascend, do you just become 1 player with 2 votes?
    Last edited by Lag; June 17th, 2021 at 01:12 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    We can just ban people randomly, forcing them to visit our website.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Can soulmates communicate with eachother outside of the game
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    congrats you're an inspiration to pedophiles everywhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    I'm sure.. 100% clownbomber16 is scum. I'll suck my own dick if I'm wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    if you are still confused i have a stellar comeback which involves more insulting of the french.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post



    If you are a solo-player and don't share your slot with someone, when you ascend, do you just become 1 player with 2 votes?
    Seems to be fair.
    Otherwhise a solo-slot would just have several disadvantages compared to a duo-slot.
    Going to add this.
    Thanks !

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Can soulmates communicate with eachother outside of the game
    Soulmates could, but only pre-ascension.
    Going to add this too.
    Thanks !
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    I'm playing with efe when we run this by the way
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    congrats you're an inspiration to pedophiles everywhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    I'm sure.. 100% clownbomber16 is scum. I'll suck my own dick if I'm wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    if you are still confused i have a stellar comeback which involves more insulting of the french.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Do soulmates just post on different accounts, or are anonymous accounts (or even non-anonymous FM accounts) used?

    Players start with 0 tokens, right? Aren't prices really high considering this?


    Very interesting btw
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Do soulmates just post on different accounts, or are anonymous accounts (or even non-anonymous FM accounts) used?

    Players start with 0 tokens, right? Aren't prices really high considering this?


    Very interesting btw
    I did not intend to use shared account for the soulmates.
    Was more thinking of Player A / Player B would play with their very own accounts but only one each day can post, the other would post the following day, ect...

    Yep, Players would start with 0 token.
    When designing the shop, I've expected prices to be a bit high so that the concept of FM is a bit more present compared to what the shop could be providing.
    Now I could indeed lower the prices a bit.

    A soul would currently need 10 tokens to ascend, considering potential lynches+lost soul kills, it might be hard to reach them, good point.

    Thanks !

    Quote Originally Posted by WrathCyber View Post
    Auwt you've got the best setups, don't let us down on your next one!
    Will try my best
    Thanks !
    Last edited by Auwt; June 19th, 2021 at 03:05 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by WrathCyber View Post
    Auwt you've got the best setups, don't let us down on your next one!
    As a totally not biased mod, I agree :P

    ~~

    It would be a bit unfair if a slot with only one player couldn't "ascend" because there would be noone to fill the other slot, by the way. I think that could be solved by making the ascended soul "mayor" with 2 votes in such a case and making it lose one vote if one of the two slots dies.

    The Corrupted Souls may be a little underpowered, considering they have no power outside of their vote. Giving them more tokens, a discount on items or access to special items could be interesting.
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    I've apparently forgotten to fix it in the ascended souls rolecards.
    The Ascension (in-depth) has however already been added to the game mechanics :

    If shared-soul -> Split into two from the same faction. (each player control one and can vote)
    If solo-soul -> Set your vote count to 2.

    In both gameplans they would have a total vote count of 2.

    I will try to dig it and find some sort of a compromise to help the corrupted side.

    EDIT :

    Corrupted Soul:

    You are a corrupted soul.
    You have no special power apart from your right to vote.
    You may share this role with your soulmate you signed up with.
    If you are playing with a soulmate, at each beginning of a new day, you have to rotate/change your place with your other soulmate.
    You receive double the amount of tokens you are supposed to earn.

    During night time, you must give a token to a player of your choice.
    No factional kill.
    You have a night chat with all the members of the Corrupted side.


    Ascended Soul:

    You have split up from your soulmate, therefore you both became Ascended Souls.
    You still can earn tokens and would receive double the amount you are supposed to get.
    You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
    You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore.
    Last edited by Auwt; June 20th, 2021 at 08:09 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    So I wrote some code to simulate 100,000 games of this setup without the ability to spend tokens - to try to see how many tokens players will get to spend anyway.

    Lynches and token distributions were given randomly, except corrupted souls always gave their token to their teammate when they could, and the lost soul always gave its token to whoever it was about to kill (so as to throw away their token).

    Here were the results for how many tokens players received on average:

    Player 0 is lost soul, Players 1+2 are corrupted
    Code:
    Player 0 has received: 2.006 tokens on average
    Player 1 has received: 7.607 tokens on average
    Player 2 has received: 7.601 tokens on average
    Player 3 has received: 1.802 tokens on average
    Player 4 has received: 1.792 tokens on average
    Player 5 has received: 1.801 tokens on average
    Player 6 has received: 1.802 tokens on average
    Player 7 has received: 1.802 tokens on average
    Player 8 has received: 1.791 tokens on average
    Player 9 has received: 1.804 tokens on average
    When tokens are just given randomly, on average players will never even get enough tokens to buy a single item.

    But more relevant would be to look at the histogram to see how often players reach certain thresholds. Histogram 0 is for the lost soul, 1 is for the corrupted souls, 2 is for regular souls:

    Code:
    Histogram 0
    0 : 21.249%
    1 : 20.621%
    2 : 22.781%
    3 : 17.798%
    4 : 10.316%
    5 : 4.865%
    6 : 1.691%
    7 : 0.523%
    8 : 0.115%
    9 : 0.037%
    10 : 0.003%
    11 : 0.001%
    Histogram 1
    0 : 11.355%
    2 : 11.550%
    4 : 15.092%
    6 : 14.747%
    8 : 13.367%
    10 : 10.429%
    12 : 7.315%
    14 : 4.907%
    16 : 3.401%
    18 : 2.568%
    20 : 1.825%
    22 : 1.360%
    24 : 0.919%
    26 : 0.561%
    28 : 0.331%
    30 : 0.166%
    32 : 0.068%
    34 : 0.030%
    36 : 0.009%
    38 : 0.004%
    40 : 0.001%
    Histogram 2
    0 : 27.783%
    1 : 24.142%
    2 : 19.628%
    3 : 13.005%
    4 : 7.446%
    5 : 3.988%
    6 : 2.036%
    7 : 1.056%
    8 : 0.515%
    9 : 0.239%
    10 : 0.099%
    11 : 0.041%
    12 : 0.014%
    13 : 0.005%
    14 : 0.001%
    15 : 0.001%
    16 : 0.000%
    18 : 0.000%
    Most relevant is looking at Histogram 2 - regular players very rarely get more than even 3 tokens to buy any of the more expensive items.

    And because there are no protective roles, the players can't coordinate to pool all their tokens on one player - since then the Lost Soul can just kill that player.

    Here's the code if anyone wants to mess around with the simulation:

    Code:
    import java.util.*;
    
    public class Bisected {
        public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
            int[] cumTokens = new int[10];
            int[][] histogram = new int[100][3];
            int numGames = 100000;
            for(int i=0; i<numGames; i++) {
                int[] temp = simulateGame(false);
                for(int j=0; j<temp.length; j++) {
                    cumTokens[j] += temp[j];
                }
                histogram[temp[0]][0]++;
                histogram[temp[1]][1]++;
                histogram[temp[2]][1]++;
                for(int j=3; j<temp.length; j++) {
                    histogram[temp[j]][2]++;
                }
            }
            for(int i=0; i<cumTokens.length; i++) {
                //System.out.println("Player " + i + " has received: " + cumTokens[i] + " tokens.");
                double average = ((double) cumTokens[i]) / numGames;
                System.out.printf("Player %d has received: %.3f tokens on average\n", i, average);
            }
            for(int i=0; i<3; i++) {
                System.out.println("Histogram " + i);
                for(int j=0; j<histogram.length; j++) {
                    // System.out.printf("%d : %d\n", j, histogram[j][i]);
                    int divisor = 7;
                    if(i == 0) divisor = 1;
                    if(i == 1) divisor = 2;
                    double percent = 100 * ((double)histogram[j][i]) / (numGames * divisor);
                    if(histogram[j][i] > 0) System.out.printf("%d : %.3f%%\n", j, percent);
                }
            }
        }
    
        static int[] simulateGame(boolean verbose) {
            boolean[] alive = new boolean[10];
            Arrays.fill(alive, true);
            int[] tokens = new int[10];
            int numAlive = 10;
    
            while(!isGameOver(alive)) {
                // Day
                int lynch = selectTarget(alive, -1, numAlive);
                alive[lynch] = false;
                if(verbose) System.out.println("Player " + lynch + " was lynched.");
                numAlive--;
    
                if(isGameOver(alive)) break;
    
                // Night
                // Corrupted - if other corrupted is alive, give tokens, else give randomly
                if(alive[1] && alive[2]) {
                    tokens[1] += 2;
                    tokens[2] += 2;
                    if(verbose) System.out.println("Player 1 gives Player 2 (2 tokens)");
                    if(verbose) System.out.println("Player 2 gives Player 1 (2 tokens)");
                }
                for(int i=1; i<alive.length; i++) {
                    if(i > 2 || !alive[1] || !alive[2]) {
                        if(alive[i]) {
                            int target = selectTarget(alive, i, numAlive);
                            if(target == 1 || target == 2) {
                                tokens[target] += 2;
                                if(verbose) System.out.println("Player " + i + " gives Player " + target + " (2 tokens)");
                            } else {
                                tokens[target] += 1;
                                if(verbose) System.out.println("Player " + i + " gives Player " + target + " (1 token)");
                            }
                        }
                    }
                }
                // Lost soul kills
                if(alive[0]) {
                    int target = selectTarget(alive, 0, numAlive);
                    alive[target] = false;
                    numAlive--;
                    if(verbose) System.out.println("Player " + target + " was found dead");
                }
            }
    
            for(int i=0; i<tokens.length; i++) {
                if(verbose) System.out.println("Player " + i + ": " + tokens[i]);
            }
    
            return tokens;
        }
    
        static int selectTarget(boolean[] alive, int self, int numAlive) {
            int target;
            if(self == -1) target = (int)(Math.random() * numAlive);
            else target = (int)(Math.random() * (numAlive - 1)); // minus one because can't target self
            for(int i=0; i<alive.length; i++) {
                if(alive[i] && i != self) {
                    if(target == 0)
                        return i;
                    else
                        target--;
                }
            }
            return -1;
        }
    
        static boolean isGameOver(boolean[] alive) {
            int numLost = alive[0] ? 1 : 0;
            int numCorrupted = (alive[1] ? 1 : 0) + (alive[2] ? 1 : 0);
            int numRegular = 0;
            for(int i=3; i<10; i++) {
                if(alive[i]) numRegular++;
            }
            if(numCorrupted == 0 && numLost == 0) return true;
            if(numRegular == 0 && numLost == 0) return true;
            if(numRegular + numCorrupted <= 2) return true;
            return false;
        }
    }
    Last edited by Lag; June 20th, 2021 at 09:32 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    We can just ban people randomly, forcing them to visit our website.

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    POGGERS
    "The child must have a valuable thing which is called imagination. The child must have a secret world in which live things that never were. It is necessary that he believe. He must start out believing in things not of this world. Then, when the world becomes too ugly for living in, the child can reach back and live in his imagination. I, myself, even in this day and age, have great need of this. Only by having imagination in my mind can I live beyond what I have to live for.”

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    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Well that's a nice job for sure, but all those studies are especially hypothetical.
    It's not like everyone would just randomly give a token to someone else.

    This random part would only work at the beginning of the game, when no one has posted yet.
    As soon as there are posts, people will tend to believe certain players and the even-distribution will be biaised, tilting to trustful players.

    Now of course I'm not sure if someone could ever reach the amount of tokens needed to ascend, but it doesn't look to be farfetched, nor too low-price.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  19. #19

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    What do you think about allowing (but not forcing) players to give half of their tokens to someone of their choice upon death? That way, the Lost Soul can't just kill the towniest players to prevent any tokens from being given.
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

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  21. #21

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    What do you think about allowing (but not forcing) players to give half of their tokens to someone of their choice upon death? That way, the Lost Soul can't just kill the towniest players to prevent any tokens from being given.
    That seems fair to make sure the shop is something useful.
    I've added this :

    "Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice."

    To the Soul, Corrupted Soul, and Ascended Corrupted Soul.
    I don't think such mechanic would be to be given to the Lost Soul.
    Last edited by Auwt; June 23rd, 2021 at 02:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  22. #22

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    There's role card missing for purple Ascended Soul.

    Can the lost soul shop whilst killing someone?
    Can you buy multiple things on same night?
    Is Glue permanent?

    Sorry if you answered already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    That seems fair to make sure the shop is something useful.
    I've added this :

    "Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice."
    Would this action be announced?
    Last edited by OzyWho; June 23rd, 2021 at 03:35 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  23. #23

  24. #24

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Can players use anonymous accounts?
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    congrats you're an inspiration to pedophiles everywhere
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuesford View Post
    I'm sure.. 100% clownbomber16 is scum. I'll suck my own dick if I'm wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    if you are still confused i have a stellar comeback which involves more insulting of the french.

  25. #25

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Can players use anonymous accounts?
    If an anonymous account plays this game, we'll all know it's Stealth.

    x_x
    "The child must have a valuable thing which is called imagination. The child must have a secret world in which live things that never were. It is necessary that he believe. He must start out believing in things not of this world. Then, when the world becomes too ugly for living in, the child can reach back and live in his imagination. I, myself, even in this day and age, have great need of this. Only by having imagination in my mind can I live beyond what I have to live for.”

  26. #26

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    There's role card missing for purple Ascended Soul.

    Can the lost soul shop whilst killing someone?
    Can you buy multiple things on same night?
    Is Glue permanent?

    Sorry if you answered already.


    Would this action be announced?
    Lost Soul can still shop independantely from the night kill action, so they can buy and use item alongside their night action.

    Added :

    *You can only buy one item a night
    "Only effective for the duration of this night"

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Technically this is a lie: "*Out of game communication is allowed, but only between the soulmates."
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Can players use anonymous accounts?
    *Out of game communication is allowed, but only with your soulmate.
    Anonymous accounts are allowed, as long as you respect the swapping each day.
    Last edited by Auwt; June 24th, 2021 at 09:07 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  27. #27

  28. #28

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    About the OGC, I meant it's technically wrong because the red guys can OGC at night. :P
    Technically, OGC is communication outside of host-approved channels. Since the scumchat is an host-approved channel, communication done in there is not OGC.

    The Lost Soul can ascend, right? If so, the Ascended Lost Soul rolecard is missing.

    Other than that, the setup looks pretty fun and ready to be approved soon
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  29. #29

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Technically, OGC is communication outside of host-approved channels. Since the scumchat is an host-approved channel, communication done in there is not OGC.
    But.. but.. I often see in setup descriptions stuff like
    OGC: Mafia Only

    Your definition is for sure the less common one.
    Last edited by OzyWho; June 24th, 2021 at 04:33 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  30. #30

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Ascended Lost Soul : You have split up from your soulmate, therfore you both became Ascended Lost Souls.
    Your number of token will be reset (to 0), but you can still receive tokens.
    You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
    You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore.
    Only the soulmate that played D1 will be able to kill a player each night, the other will not be able to kill.
    Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice.



    Not sure how fine the role is though.
    Last edited by Auwt; June 24th, 2021 at 09:21 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  31. #31

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    But.. but.. I often see in setup descriptions stuff like
    OGC: Mafia Only

    Your definition is for sure the less common one.
    It's ok, setup-makers have the right to be wrong. It doesn't make my definition any less good, though. Scum chats are game chats, random PMs are not. Speaking in scum chat is not out of game, PMing game members is. It's somewhat fair to call the game thread "game" by synechdoche, but my definition sticks to the first meaning!
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Ascended Lost Soul : You have split up from your soulmate, therfore you both became Ascended Lost Souls.
    Your number of token will be reset (to 0), but you can still receive tokens.
    You will both be announced as Ascended Souls and will both be able to vote.
    You cannot OGC with your soulmate anymore.
    Only the soulmate that played D1 will be able to kill a player each night, the other will not be able to kill.
    Upon your death, while not an obligation, you can give half of your tokens to a player of your choice.



    Not sure how fine the role is though.
    Is the non-killer soul be able to kill if his ex-soulmate dies?

    The setup is missing an OoO.
    Last edited by Marshmallow Marshall; June 24th, 2021 at 08:13 PM.
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  32. #32

  33. #33

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    OoO with no power roles, c'mon MM
    There are powers: the abilities from the shop. It could be important to know whether ascending happens before or after kills, for example.
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  34. #34

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Will add a ooo sometime soon.

    I'm also thinking of removing the Lost Soul (3rd P), to add another Corrupted Soul, making it a 7v3, probably more balanced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  35. #35

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Will add a ooo sometime soon.

    I'm also thinking of removing the Lost Soul (3rd P), to add another Corrupted Soul, making it a 7v3, probably more balanced.
    With no faction kill, 7v3 sounds fun.
    I'd make the Mafia guys be Vengeful though - in order to make the [4 Town mislynches vs 3 Mafia lynches] win conditions be more consistent. Math is hard thanks to the soul splitting thingy.

    I wonder what's the maximum amount of game days theoretically speaking..
    :Thinking:
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  36. #36

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Making it straight up town vs mafia sounds like a good idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    With no faction kill, 7v3 sounds fun.
    I'd make the Mafia guys be Vengeful though - in order to make the [4 Town mislynches vs 3 Mafia lynches] win conditions be more consistent. Math is hard thanks to the soul splitting thingy.

    I wonder what's the maximum amount of game days theoretically speaking..
    :Thinking:
    Vengeful mafia are hellspawns. They punish town for being right. Instead, I'd give them a permanent chat in a 7v3 setup without factional kills. Along with the scum bonus to tokens, this makes the game interesting and shouldn't be town-favored. Those are merely suggestions from someone who'd like to play the game, though.
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  37. #37

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Assuming that Destruction evens out Ascension, in terms of prolonging or shortening the game.
    -Without something like Vengeful, in a scenario where Town lynched Mafias first 2 days; Mafia would require 6 mislynches in order to win.
    -- this is not achievable because in so many game days, town can just game the setup and ascend slots and then lynch 1 of them. (perhaps this setup gaming is possible even with Vengeful, and only faction kills can prevent it)

    Ignoring the possible setup gaming and the few lynches vs a lot mislynches imbalance in win conditions - there's also the matter of no reasonable game of FM should ever last that long. D5 or D6 is the sweet spot that games should last imho, D7 if stretch it and enough active players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  38. #38

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    town can just game the setup and ascend slots and then lynch 1 of them. (perhaps this setup gaming is possible even with Vengeful, and only faction kills can prevent it)
    Alternatively, Ascended slots could be made Lovers. This would make the previously mentioned setup gaming impossible and it would bring game length down to a reasonable level. There would still be the possible [few lynches vs a lot mislynches] imbalance, but it's game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.

  39. #39

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Assuming that Destruction evens out Ascension, in terms of prolonging or shortening the game.
    -Without something like Vengeful, in a scenario where Town lynched Mafias first 2 days; Mafia would require 6 mislynches in order to win.
    -- this is not achievable because in so many game days, town can just game the setup and ascend slots and then lynch 1 of them. (perhaps this setup gaming is possible even with Vengeful, and only faction kills can prevent it)

    Ignoring the possible setup gaming and the few lynches vs a lot mislynches imbalance in win conditions - there's also the matter of no reasonable game of FM should ever last that long. D5 or D6 is the sweet spot that games should last imho, D7 if stretch it and enough active players.
    I don't think many people will be ascending, though. It takes a lot of tokens to do so. Also, majority lynch is enabled, so days are probably not going to last that long ;)
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  40. #40

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Recent changes :

    - Lost Soul & Ascended Lost Soul (3rd party) removed.
    - Another Corrupted Soul added (total of 3).

    - Power:Glue also prevents a player from buying anything the following night.

    - Prices have been slightly reduced :
    (-1) Luck
    (-1) Ascension

    - OoO : Glue > Luck/Health > Destruction > Ascension
    Last edited by Auwt; July 18th, 2021 at 10:57 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  41. #41

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Win conditions still mention the Lost Soul. Also, shouldn't the scum win when they control 50 % of the vote, instead of having to eliminate all townies?
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  42. #42

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Yup seems like I missed the win conditions point.
    Fixed !

    Also changed the Glue power to be effective the night it is used and not the following one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  43. #43

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Approved. Do you want to be added to the Queue right now? I'd add it to the main one instead of the mini one, since the amount of players would be higher than 10 in an ideal world.
    Spoiler : Quotes :
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Hey peter View Post
    There are two wolves inside you. One is addicted to crack. The other one is also addicted to crack. You are addicted to crack.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    MM IS AN ANTI-VAXXER
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Mallow are you really an anti vaxxer
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    God is a goofy loser.

  44. #44

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Yeah sure, please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  45. #45

  46. #46

  47. #47

    Re: S-FM Bisected Souls (10-20P)

    Recent changes :


    Balance :

    Roles

    AS : Your number of token will be set to 0. (Removed)

    CS : You receive double the amount of tokens you are supposed to earn from the Souls, and normal amount from the Corrupted side.

    Shop

    All in all I believe the Power:Glue should be a little bit more used if changed back like that.

    Power:Glue : Cancel the buy of any items the player of your choice would do, for the duration of this night and the following one.

    *All of the Powers:Glue happen at the same time.
    *All of the Powers:Destruction happen at the same time.


    Mechanics :

    Any amount of token passed from a player to another will be rounded down.
    Last edited by Auwt; September 5th, 2021 at 01:01 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

 

 

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