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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    i will

    /unsign

    sorry!
    You can do this. This game is a skill game. This is a game that would be perfect for the way you think.
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    If theoneceko says in it not need 2 more to start. I asked Oberon to Observe to give me a hand on host side just in case.
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Well we will not need one more to start remember if we start with 14 the min means 2 ghosts will die no active players. This is still a 16 player game now the ghost can not be saved so mafia will not have a noght 0 chat the only night 0 action will be the P-cop check. Also know that a PR role may be rolled into a ghost slot.
    So you may have all 3 PR or you may only have 2. That is to balance. It is a town favor balance. Consider this if we roled 16 players.

    Play 1 roled cop
    Plater 2 roled viggy
    Player 3 roled medic

    Night 0 mafia picked player 1 and 2
    Player 3 was on player 1
    Player 1 lives and and town loses there viggy. But day 1 starts with 15 players not 16

    Or night 0 mafia picked Player 1 and 2
    Player 3 was on player 5
    Day starts town starts day 1 no viggy no cop. Starts with 14 player only 1PR.

    14 man setup mafia can not be in a ghost slot garrentted to start day 1 with 3 mafia goons.

    This is how I will Rng

    Mafia
    Mafia
    Mafia
    P-cop
    Nerfed medic
    Viggy

    I will make a list of players
    Add G1 and G2to that list

    Rng that list if g1 or g2 is in the top 3 slots I will Rng untill no g1 or g2 are in the top 3 slots. And if g1 and g2 are both in shot 3,4 or 5 I will Rng again. If G1 or G2are not be in slot 1,2or 3 and not both g1and g2 are in slot 3,4or5 I will not Rng again.

    Meaning G1and G2 could end in for example slot 8 and 9 meaning night 0 kills were both cits.

    So this should explaine how I am ringing this to stop host meta BS. Most of you all know I host a fair and honest game to make it as much fun for everyone.

    And there is NO bastard mechanics in this setup NO 3p in this setup.
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Ozy you where the one who pinged me to start the signups
    Last edited by Mike; June 14th, 2021 at 09:18 AM.
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    So, we agree that skipping is bad (in general), right? Statistically, it's good for town to "random" amongst themselves bc there's a chance it hits scum, rather than mafia getting controlling who dies each night.

    Like, if I advocate for skipping in the first few days of the game, I'm openly claiming scum and should be eliminated asap.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I'm going to flip my shit if someone says it's more likely that we kill town d1 than scum d1.
    its more likely that we kill town d1 than scum d1

    in all honesty while I am not a fan of punitive meta, I totally agree with you that skipping is anti-town.

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I'm going to flip my shit if someone says it's more likely that we kill town d1 than scum d1.
    Statistically In A Game This Size It Is More Likely That We Would Hit Town Rather Then Scum Day 1..

    @Mike Are Last Wills Allowed? Havent Seen Anything About That..

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Skipping removes a lynch. Yes, you gain 1 day and night because you'd skip a second time later at, for example, the F4. And there is some merit to it in games where town has some good power roles + D1 never got out of RVS.
    But generally, sacrificing a lynch isn't worth it.
    In this setup, for it to be worth it, you'd have to gamble that there is a parity cop and D1 has to be so horrendously lacking content that Town is forced on betting that a skip gives the possibly non-existent parity cop an extra night.
    @Light_Yagami I'm pretty sure no setups with possible investigative roles can have LW's enabled. Maybe if flipless though. Ohh wait.. this is flipless.. lol.


    In general, for example, why would you want to be allowed to make 2 mislynched than 1?
    Sure that 1 would have better % than the 1st of the 2, but in terms of lynching a scum the more lynches give you a better chance.
    Last edited by OzyWho; June 15th, 2021 at 03:16 PM.

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    I agree that it's more likely that we eliminate a town on day 1. But this town member doesn't need to get checked, vigi shotted, or take up a heal. It's also an individual who would never have been killed by mafia (because of how suspicious they were to the group).

    Take this other scenario.

    4 CONFIRMED town, due to mechanics. 2 unconfirmed town, and one killer.

    Chances are you kill a town member, right? 1/3 because you wouldn't vote for any of the confirmed town. 1/3 makes it less likely to kill scum. If you skip day, it becomes 3 confirmed town and still 1/3 to vote out the scum. But if you take your chance, the next day it becomes 1/2 and the following day 100%.

    Skip = bad.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Statistically In A Game This Size It Is More Likely That We Would Hit Town Rather Then Scum Day 1..

    @Mike Are Last Wills Allowed? Havent Seen Anything About That..
    No last wills are not allowed to op for town in this setup
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    So, we agree that skipping is bad (in general), right? Statistically, it's good for town to "random" amongst themselves bc there's a chance it hits scum, rather than mafia getting controlling who dies each night.

    Like, if I advocate for skipping in the first few days of the game, I'm openly claiming scum and should be eliminated asap.
    I agree, Every time this setup runs when town tends to skip day 1 it is normally a Mafia who in on the chopping block and is saved And town end up loosing.

    Ok, I will give this tidbit of info on this setup. I hope this helps Skipping day 1 or 2 is always bad for town, But is allowed in game.
    Nothing wrong with lynching you scummiest players day 1 even if they are town. They tend to be possible mislynches end game. Also keps the mafia from IDing your PR's

    Viggy only gets only one shot. Viggy should always claim the next day there shot on there first post who they shot any why. All other claims should be iggnored.

    Medic should always stay in hiding.

    Cop should not claim unless they get a different check. unless it is end game. cop medic vigy should always claim if you can make auto. (Auto mean auto win due to confirms)

    Again above Is suggestions from the mod. NOt required. But helps you chances a lot. Again play this for you fun. Just don't be a Dick.
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I agree that it's more likely that we eliminate a town on day 1. But this town member doesn't need to get checked, vigi shotted, or take up a heal. It's also an individual who would never have been killed by mafia (because of how suspicious they were to the group).

    Take this other scenario.

    4 CONFIRMED town, due to mechanics. 2 unconfirmed town, and one killer.

    Chances are you kill a town member, right? 1/3 because you wouldn't vote for any of the confirmed town. 1/3 makes it less likely to kill scum. If you skip day, it becomes 3 confirmed town and still 1/3 to vote out the scum. But if you take your chance, the next day it becomes 1/2 and the following day 100%.

    Skip = bad.
    I agree with you 100% that town should not skip. But one thing I would like to point out is to consider not punishing ppl for skipping by a policy vote if they do it every game. It's likely they won't change their mind about skipping, so the lynch does nothing and is basically just a random lynch. Just my thoughts.

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    @unknown told me he wants to play some FM. He will sign if u guys tag team him
    @aamirus , why don't you play. we can redo your cop v cop fight

    @Unknown1234 hi

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Watch ur back BB
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    @blinkskater @Voss @Renegade @theoneceko @Varcron @Funny Thing @Yuesford @WrathCyber @Auwt @BananaCucho @Stealthbomber16 @ZZorange @Light_Yagami @LagAttack

    We have enough to start the game. Please message me on discord ( Dude Mike #0862 ). So I know you all are here and we can get this started.
    Last edited by Mike; June 18th, 2021 at 10:12 AM.
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    Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    game will not start today. Waiting on responses once I get responses from all players I will post a start date. I have RNged the Roles If you have responded to me I have given you your role. Do not discuss the game or your roles outside of game Thank you.
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