S-FM 327 : Last Hope

[Lumi]

Bruh its not out of the ordinary to rvs/ vote/push your scum buddies day one, thats something a scum would want to do imo

It certainly worked super well for scum in Ozy's game! Oh wait...

(Nah, but actually I'm just not reading Ozy nor ceko as scum nor Templar - but this is also my very first game of FM so.... what the heck do I know lol)

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[Lumi]

i want to lynch varcron actually. i don't want him to coast by as scum (assuming he's scum, which i currently have somewhat good reasons to think he is).

at least make the guy talk.

-vote Varcron

my vote is staying on you until you start speaking. i've seen u watching the thread. what are ur thoughts on the discussion so far?

Varcron is Arsonist confirmed

-vote Varcron

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[Oberon]

Bruh its not out of the ordinary to rvs/ vote/push your scum buddies day one, thats something a scum would want to do imo

literally happened last 2 games

[theoneceko]

To be fair, if you want to win as Town you have to be willing to push the game forward. Though that's a rare trait, at least in RVS.

we're out of RVS now though. i think that's a good start for town :3

[WrathCyber]

Sup. How does Villager work? Do we just work together to kill the evil people?

[Lumi]

Scum points for crying about having to read posts in a FM game.

It's my first FM game, I'm catching up slowly

Spite vote:

-vote blinkskater

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[theoneceko]

Weird that Oberon is saying both ceko + ozy are scum and they're supposedly bussing each other day 1 while simultaneously asking to slow the game down on day 1. Kind of scummy...

-vote Oberon

(Although I've changed my vote like 4 times in the last 20 minutes, so this vote doesn't mean much and will probably change in a few minutes after I read more of the thread)

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that's exactly how i play lol

[OzyWho]

Taking the bullet! Awfully scummy thing to do!

-vote NumberTwo

That is actually a strange thing to say from Nr.2 because he has played FM plenty of times and he knows that aint nobody ever gets lynched with just 1 vote on them.

[Varcron]

yep I'm pretty sure its ceko.
not moving my vote

Explain this then @Oberon

Hopefully that mention worked

[Lumi]

FM is literal hell if i'm in it, bc i create so much discussion xD

hewwo lagattack!!! UWOWU HEWWO!!! so glad you're here ^-^

<3

Making the most of day 1 of my first FM game

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[OzyWho]

I completely disagree on this point

Mod Ceko from what I've seen rarely pushes someone hard unless they are certain of them being scum.

Based on the hopping, I don't think he is certain of anything.

Reads paranoia = a scum thing...
dude...

How tf are you naturally this scummy looking?

Apathy, self-pres interest, reads paranoia (as opposed to alignment paranoia)...
Are you TRYING to get lynched? lol

[Oberon]

idk people are reading far too much into my posts, I didn't say Ozy and Ceko were bussing, I didn't say any of those things, what I said is very simple: ppl who try too hard in rvs are 100% scum, ppl who are among the last to start trolling are scum, and people who troll too hard and too forcefully are scum.

[theoneceko]

At least in my opinion anyways, Oberon and I are thinking on the same wavelength kind of which I like.

this i don't understand and straight up don't like.

"wavelength"

are u pocketing?? lmao

what about oberon's playstyle makes u think he's town?? im honestly just meta-reading him at this point, if this was my first game playing with obe i'd have him as a top scum candidate rn

[Oberon]

Sup. How does Villager work? Do we just work together to kill the evil people?

Yeh Village = Town

[theoneceko]

I think you're talking about something else because I never once uttered the word "templar" in relation to ceko, or even said that the templar should reveal

yea, ozy is. he just rly wants the templar to reveal himself.

[Oberon]

Explain this then @Oberon

Hopefully that mention worked

in relation to what?

[WrathCyber]

Yeh Village = Town

oh cool

[Lumi]

-vote lagattack

This isnt an RVS vote either

No idea if you've been active later in the thread but I've noticed from the Vote Count thing that you've kept your vote on me. So I guess I'll keep my vote on you "not an RVS vote" based off of 4 posts while ignoring all of my follow up posts

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[theoneceko]

Sup. How does Villager work? Do we just work together to kill the evil people?

yes

[WrathCyber]

-vote lagattack

[OzyWho]

if I were the host I would make blink jester

if blink was jester he'd 100% play like Actress.

[Oberon]

-vote lagattack

its [vote]Person[/vote]

[theoneceko]

idk people are reading far too much into my posts, I didn't say Ozy and Ceko were bussing, I didn't say any of those things, what I said is very simple: ppl who try too hard in rvs are 100% scum, ppl who are among the last to start trolling are scum, and people who troll too hard and too forcefully are scum.

maybe ur right about ozy, but in one of the first games we played together, i got scumread for "trying too hard in RVS". i like wrote some fucking wallpost on why i thought someone was scum and got scumread briefly for it, even though i was scum.

RVS to me is literally the shitpost phase. i don't see what benefit town DOESN'T get from moving away from it as quickly as possible.

[Lumi]

@Oberon @LagAttack @blinkskater
Guys, I really think it would be beneficial for us to encourage the Templar to reveal himself.

Ober, your apathy is unusual imho.
blink, you're familiar with oberon. He doesn't even look like at least pretending to scumhunt. What does your experience tell you about his alignment?

Yes Templar, reveal yourself, we will lynch you!

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[Varcron]

Reads paranoia = a scum thing...
dude...

How tf are you naturally this scummy looking?

Apathy, self-pres interest, reads paranoia (as opposed to alignment paranoia)...
Are you TRYING to get lynched? lol

Honestly I can't help it, this is naturally how I play so I roll with it.

Tried changing it a few games and it went horribly wrong.

[OzyWho]

sorry, i think this is oberon just being paranoid here. i see him more as town than templar. shadow honestly least likely option for me, since that'd just be too obvious

also, last game u mentioned how oberon shot himself in the foot with his reads. why aren't u considering he's doing the same thing in this game?

I don't get the reference.
I will say though that I do do remember Oberon being apathethic in that game where naz was the last scum. But he was purposefully trying that - to shift his town meta.

[Lumi]

i like this (maybe i'm making a mistake here)

tentative unvote

-vote unvote

tentative vote

-vote LagAttack

rn, i'll be paying SOME attention to varc. however, i know from playing with him that he gets universally scumread as town AND scum. so i won't tunnel him rn

People pushing for my vote before I've even caught up in the thread

I'll post my reads once I am fully caught up

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[WrathCyber]

I agree with lagattack, but I think he's jester so I'm voting him

[Oberon]

Honestly I can't help it, this is naturally how I play so I roll with it.

Tried changing it a few games and it went horribly wrong.

interesting

[Varcron]

interesting

PTSD

[OzyWho]

???

Go down the rabbit hole, look at what you replied what, and you will have your `!!!` to your `???`.

Cmon bro.

[theoneceko]

I don't get the reference.
I will say though that I do do remember Oberon being apathethic in that game where naz was the last scum. But he was purposefully trying that - to shift his town meta.

u were the host of last game. matrix (6p)

[Lumi]

I completely disagree on this point

Mod Ceko from what I've seen rarely pushes someone hard unless they are certain of them being scum.

Based on the hopping, I don't think he is certain of anything.

I've literally seen mod ceko push hard for someone to bait out guilty votes from evil

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[theoneceko]

I agree with lagattack, but I think he's jester so I'm voting him

me too (jk)

-vote WrathCyber

CHAOS. CHAAOOSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Oberon]

oh now I understand.
you just wanted me to answer your question.
jester should 100% reveal, but will they? idk I think that kinda depends on the jester

[Varcron]

in relation to what?

In relation to the post that you stated that you believed Ceko was scum.

[Oberon]

!ban myself
bye

[Lumi]

okay, i guess u know less about my mod playstyle than i thought.

there are games where i will literally claim sheriff as a spy, say i caught mafia on night 1, then see how fast the so-called "mafia" gets voted up. i did this last night. i said 10 was mafia, then the godfather voted him up. unfortunately, i died before i could lead town any further

I can confirm that I've seen ceko do this in the mod, as I mentioned earlier

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[Varcron]

I've literally seen mod ceko push hard for someone to bait out guilty votes from evil

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Maybe I'm just blind then, but I've never actually seen ceko do that before.

[theoneceko]

me too (jk)

-vote WrathCyber

CHAOS. CHAAOOSSSSSSSSSSSSS

okay, so this vote actually gleans some information, i am forced to ask u this @WrathCyber (even though part of me wanted to leave a troll post the way it was ;W;)

why do u think lagattack is a jester??

[OzyWho]

Sup. How does Villager work? Do we just work together to kill the evil people?

In FM you mostly scum hunt by talking and feeling the other players out.
This is not the mod where town is relying on their sheriffs and goverment and stuff. ;)

Any reads so far?

[Lumi]

You keep track? Bruh

I wrote some code to parse all my replays - originally used for the whole racist name thread, but some fun additional info it gave me are who I've played with the most - 19 games played with you

[Varcron]

I wrote some code to parse all my replays - originally used for the whole racist name thread, but some fun additional info it gave me are who I've played with the most - 19 games played with you

And probably over half of those you died N1 to NK lmao

[OzyWho]

idk people are reading far too much into my posts, I didn't say Ozy and Ceko were bussing, I didn't say any of those things, what I said is very simple: ppl who try too hard in rvs are 100% scum, ppl who are among the last to start trolling are scum, and people who troll too hard and too forcefully are scum.

Sure sure. People are reading far too much into posts.
But, tell me, how would the said people move the game forward without doing that?

There's a reason last like 7 out of 8 games had ~200 posts D1. It's because of attitudes like yours this game.
People waiting for something to happen in the game whilst never doing anything to achieve that.

[Oberon]

how does levelling work?

[theoneceko]

6 people have not talked yet:

frinckles
marshiiemarsh marrow marshall uwowu hewwo
zzorange
crichardforumlies
yuesford/paopan
pqrnhack/[SHITTY] Player

just keep that in mind ^-^

it is the beginning of day 1, but i don't REALLY heavily scumread anyone right now.

[theoneceko]

!ban myself
bye

u honestly just look apathetic here, not like super-duper scum ;W;

i hope ur not actually scum and using emotional arguments to ur advantage, OWO

[OzyWho]

in relation to what?

"i think x is scum"
"why? explain plz"
"in relation to what?"

Ok I think we found our Jester..
and it's the worst kind of jester..

[Oberon]

Sure sure. People are reading far too much into posts.
But, tell me, how would the said people move the game forward without doing that?

There's a reason last like 7 out of 8 games had ~200 posts D1. It's because of attitudes like yours this game.
People waiting for something to happen in the game whilst never doing anything to achieve that.

that's not what I'm doing

[theoneceko]

6 people have not talked yet:

frinckles
marshiiemarsh marrow marshall uwowu hewwo
zzorange
crichardforumlies
yuesford/paopan
pqrnhack/[SHITTY] Player

just keep that in mind ^-^

it is the beginning of day 1, but i don't REALLY heavily scumread anyone right now.

i will wait for the afk's to speak before making more solid reads.