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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Stay Classy

    WhoIsEfekannn02AndOzyTeam (1 [L-1]): Numbertwo
    Numbertwo (2 [L-0]): WhoIsEfekannn02AndOzyTeam, bakermir


    Numbertwo has been voted off.
    Numbertwo's role was Citizen.


    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Stay Classy

    Created by RLVG

    @Mike
    @WhoIsEfekannn02AndOzyTeam
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @Oberon
    @FrostByte
    @bakermir
    @Numbertwo
    @SuperJack


    The game has ended with a Mafia win.
    Congratulations to @Oberon and @WhoIsEfekannn02AndOzyTeam !

    Their roles were Godfather and Consigliere.

    Feel free to join the dead chat discord !

    Stay Classy Discord
    Last edited by Auwt; February 21st, 2021 at 02:32 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    I have grievances






    Descent into Madness



    It all starts well and good with townreading and questioning why others are scumreading Efe.
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    This URL doesn't work because ISO URLs don't work for some reason (I think someone had found how to fix that, but I forgot how). That being said, I assume it was linking Scum Town; if that is the case, I like it.


    But then, 5 minutes later, something terrible happens. Efe gets a scumread because nobody should ever nullread Efe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mag View Post
    And efe is scum because of gut
    Efekannn is actually incredibly easy to read if you know him
    Quote Originally Posted by Mag View Post
    Just Dont Call Him A Nullread You Fools!
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    I have the same feeling. No nullread for you this time @efe


    Efe gets scumread just for being in the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    Well, I don't. I'm glad you're there lol.
    If only that made me not gutread you as scum


    After we've concluded that Efe should never get nullread'd and after it's made clear that Efe gets scumread just for being in the game.
    What is the next logical step? If you said voting Efe for being Efe, then you're correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    -vote WhoIsEfekann02AndOzyTeam

    for containing efe who may be scum here.
    (note that it's Efe who gets scumread, not the slot)


    Now Efe starts to get upset, asking for not being scumread just for being Efe.

    What response does it get?
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    DENIED.


    While at it. Why not demonstratively showcase that nothing that the Efe slot will ever say will be taken seriously by a sarcastic comment?
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    On hate, tears and sorrow.


    Up until then, there has been a problem you see, namely the fact that no reason to actually scumread Efe has been given.

    But patience is a virtue. "Surely he didn't wait to have an excuse to scumread Efe?" - you might ask.
    Sure, the progression so far has indicated that it might be the case, but surely nobody would actually do such a thing?

    Well. Now we have a player who, after having only quick gut reads - out of all the content in the game that has happened until then, he decides that this is what constitutes his strongest read:
    Quote Originally Posted by OzyEfe View Post
    Scum scummity scum scum scum if you don't explain now why you think -skip is a good idea!
    Quote Originally Posted by MM View Post
    This really looks like shade-throwing, like you're not really interested in forming accurate reads, but rather in making Mag look scummy. Ozy goes down with his other head Efe into scum hell
    Does anyone believe the sincerity in this given the context?

    After all that implication before that he might be just waiting for an excuse to scumread Efe - this joke, out of all the things in the game, is what just so happened to catch his eye? I have doubt.

    What makes the insincerity even more stand out in my eyes is him calling the player who has, up until that point, worked the most to progress the game - as "not interested in forming accurate reads". That may or may not be true, but saying that about the slot who has progressed the game the most and questioned plenty - it can only come straight out of ass.


    TL;DR
    Report MM for, as Efe has so precisely put it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Efe View Post
    Your Guts Suck And You're Comhunting Me
    Quote Originally Posted by Efe View Post
    This Sounds More Like A Comhunt Than Like A Meta/Gutread

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    A scumreads B, then B scumreads A just for scumreading B. OMGUS is scummy with inexperienced players because it's opportunistic and reactionary, which is how everyone plays their first like 20 scum games

    or A scumreads B, then B scumreads A with impossibly weak reasoning. The weak reasoning stems from the conscious decision to scumread before evidence is gathered. When you already reach the conclusion of scumreading and then proceed to work backward, the justification can often come off as weak. When you first gather evidence and THEN decide to scumread, the justification often seems stronger.
    You're completely right in that I was scummy because of OMGUS. But not the OMGUS that you're describing.

    What you described is closer to the Town OMGUS that Helz described.

    That's just my opinion.

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    @bakermir
    You really believe that I was in the top2 scummy slots? Fwiw, I believe you to be the top2 towny slot. Can't best SJ though.
    @Numbertwo
    Thx for joining. At least we had game. @Mike
    Well baited.
    you guys played well

    i am not bummed about the result I mean it was going to be this way as lnog as we didnt lynch someone in you me and numbertwo there. mafia played well and town played bad. i sucked hard too. SJ gettin voted out wasn't the right play imo we could have given tpr's 1 more night but oh well

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    I think the push to lynch outside of the PR pool was very bizarre and anti-town. There was slim chance of the PRs confirming anyone to anyone other than themselves which wasn’t very useful. For example it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that MM would heal FrostByte on d2.

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    There’s really not many scenarios in which a PR could really confirm himself as town to another PR. Doctor can easily be faked, and it’s always easy to guess who the Doctor would heal - there was no Escort either, and the chances there could’ve been one were incredibly slim to begin with as it would imply they literally had to have visited Mile on d1. Which is very unlikely to begin with - what are the odds that the PR and the Mafia would literally view Mike as a threat for different reasons and decided to visit him?

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    What if we played this game MAJ only? i think that would increase the activity in games under 9p just a random thought now
    Recently there was a discussion about this. And the consensus was something like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    No, go away with those heretical ideas! So many games were dull and boring because we could never reach an agreement. Having inactives, even if they aren't that many, completely kill games with majority only. Yes, in theory, it forces everyone to do something. In reality, it just results in some people actually trying to win and some others being potatoes and killing the fun.

    DOWN WITH THE HERETICS, UP WITH THE PLURALITY
    CHOO CHOO

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    It's difficult to evaluate a citizen lynch as if we didn't have the info of hindsight.

    But with the info of hindsight, I think we can safely say that a citizen lynch would had been better if for no other reason than to not have NumberTwo in F3.
    Treating D2 Lynch as a policy Lynch.

    D2: Lynch NumberTwo.
    N2: Let's assume baker or FB gets killed, no heal.
    D:3 The citizen pool consists of 2 players and there's no chance EfOz wouldn't be the lynch there regardless of who was killed N2.
    N3: No framer = MM confirmed = MM killed now.
    D4: F3 = Oberon + SJ + confirmed citizen = guaranteed better F3 for town than what happened in the game.
    Wouldn't happen

    N2: Let's assume MM or SJ gets killed.
    D3: LYLO, Oberon vs SJ/MM.
    N3(if): Kill the last TPR.
    D4: Final 3 = OzEf + Baker + fb
    Better F3 than what happened in the game, except town has had 2 real LYLOs.
    Last edited by OzyWho; February 21st, 2021 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I can see Mag being scum with #2. The only thing that throws me off is their weird "remember me" interaction. But then Mag is happy to interact with #2 and yet have #2 lurk and not participate

    @Oberon is this alignment indicative for you?
    I mean in general, this game you obv purposefully acted Tunneled.

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I don't think I lurked on d2. I lurked on d1. The way I was trolling and didn't play the game was pretty scummy for me yeah. When I'm town and I lurk at least don't troll lol
    I think you misunderstood the part where SJ said that you're happy and content with Numbertwo "lurking" and not participating.

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsEfekannn02AndOzyTeam View Post
    -vote Auwt


    You're Distorted's Alt

    Give Me BBQ
    Shhhh you weren't supposed to say that X_X
    It was supposed to be a secret.........
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Spoiler : Grievances :
    I have grievances






    Descent into Madness



    It all starts well and good with townreading and questioning why others are scumreading Efe.




    But then, 5 minutes later, something terrible happens. Efe gets a scumread because nobody should ever nullread Efe.





    Efe gets scumread just for being in the game.



    After we've concluded that Efe should never get nullread'd and after it's made clear that Efe gets scumread just for being in the game.
    What is the next logical step? If you said voting Efe for being Efe, then you're correct.

    (note that it's Efe who gets scumread, not the slot)


    Now Efe starts to get upset, asking for not being scumread just for being Efe.

    What response does it get?



    While at it. Why not demonstratively showcase that nothing that the Efe slot will ever say will be taken seriously by a sarcastic comment?



    Up until then, there has been a problem you see, namely the fact that no reason to actually scumread Efe has been given.

    But patience is a virtue. "Surely he didn't wait to have an excuse to scumread Efe?" - you might ask.
    Sure, the progression so far has indicated that it might be the case, but surely nobody would actually do such a thing?

    Well. Now we have a player who, after having only quick gut reads - out of all the content in the game that has happened until then, he decides that this is what constitutes his strongest read:


    Does anyone believe the sincerity in this given the context?

    After all that implication before that he might be just waiting for an excuse to scumread Efe - this joke, out of all the things in the game, is what just so happened to catch his eye? I have doubt.

    What makes the insincerity even more stand out in my eyes is him calling the player who has, up until that point, worked the most to progress the game - as "not interested in forming accurate reads". That may or may not be true, but saying that about the slot who has progressed the game the most and questioned plenty - it can only come straight out of ass.


    TL;DR
    Report MM for, as Efe has so precisely put it:


    Stop painting me red with the blood of the innocents

    For the record, I had a rather strong feeling Efe was scum but didn't want to 1: annoy him and 2: make him change his behavior (for analysis' sake). But then, Mag came in and said it, so I thought I might as well voice it lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post


    Stop painting me red with the blood of the innocents

    For the record, I had a rather strong feeling Efe was scum but didn't want to 1: annoy him and 2: make him change his behavior (for analysis' sake). But then, Mag came in and said it, so I thought I might as well voice it lol.
    Im Scum But So Are You

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post


    Stop painting me red with the blood of the innocents

    For the record, I had a rather strong feeling Efe was scum but didn't want to 1: annoy him and 2: make him change his behavior (for analysis' sake). But then, Mag came in and said it, so I thought I might as well voice it lol.
    Well, lucky me on being right about 156. I just wish you didn't, when questioned about it, attempt to make it look *sincere* during the game. I'm saying *sincere* because I know of no better word for it.

    The closest is eisegesis?
    https://english.stackexchange.com/qu...h-a-desired-co

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Well, lucky me on being right about 156. I just wish you didn't, when questioned about it, attempt to make it look *sincere* during the game. I'm saying *sincere* because I know of no better word for it.

    The closest is eisegesis?
    https://english.stackexchange.com/qu...h-a-desired-co
    I prefer Hineininterpretierung

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post


    Stop painting me red with the blood of the innocents

    For the record, I had a rather strong feeling Efe was scum but didn't want to 1: annoy him and 2: make him change his behavior (for analysis' sake). But then, Mag came in and said it, so I thought I might as well voice it lol.
    Sounds like excuses but ok I believe you

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedus View Post
    Well, nothing new, scum team wins as always.
    My scum reads were accurate. Not my fault town turbolynched before we could get some good discussion in. Also not my fault the guy responsible for the turbolynch didn't get scumread the next day because I was dead due to accurate scum reads.

    Town lost but I played well and that's all I care about tbh.
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    My scum reads were accurate. Not my fault town turbolynched before we could get some good discussion in. Also not my fault the guy responsible for the turbolynch didn't get scumread the next day because I was dead due to accurate scum reads.

    Town lost but I played well and that's all I care about tbh.
    You weren't dead due to accurate scum reads, you were dead because you were mechanically confirmed town LOL

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    Re: S-FM 324: Stay Classy (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    The best town player was MM and after that Mike for baiting the Mafia kill.
    Ozy was the only player who actually played well to any degree this game (and, like I said, debatably MM).
    You just embarrassed that you hooked onto my Bait
    Cryptonic made this sig

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    gotchu fam

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