S-FM 322: Simple Forum Mafia - WINTER 2021

[Frinckles]

Order of kills is now You -> Meal -> Light

Optimal

[SuperJack]

SJ said Light had accidently blocked me or something and couldn't see my messages.

I got a little sarcastic with the people that was not gonna get lynched.

[Grayswandir]

I wouldn't put tone as OGI. I AM CHANGING MY TONEEEEE!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

Maybe not, but I’m not clearing him for it yet, we got plenty of time

[SuperJack]

I'll iso dm in a bit, I'm just chillin atm getting everyone up to speed.

Keep in mind fellas, only one person is mafia here.

I know. Just trying to judge to see what DM's most likely interactions with their scum partner would be. Guide/Buddy/Ignore/SuperSacrifice

[SuperJack]

Optimal

Gotta plan out my night actions before hand.

[Frinckles]

Gotta plan out my night actions before hand.

You will likely make it to final 3 in a bus scenario and I believe a win would be well deserved.

The only reason I'm keeping it in mind is that hooker is still alive, but then it'd be auto anyway if they werent.

[Frinckles]

Okay I'm off for now, ping me if you need me.

[Happymeal]

Lynch Order:

Grey- For not being lynched by Dark Magician
Ozzy- Anti-SJ along with being friendly & trying to convince me to switch from DM to Grey
Naz- Too passive and fluffly
SuperJack- Created perhaps the greatest ever scum plan in history
Happy Meal- A Dirty cop who can't do their job the lazy way and instead have to play like a Citizen
Frinkles- A doctor who is on the mafias payroll
Light- Cant Die.

I mean tbf I don't really need PRs to win. I was playing viedeo mafia last night and managed to win 2 separate games mislynching PR day 1. Truth be told PRs are a little overrated (though I'm a top notch medic I have always made game winning saves on people no one expects).

This is literally like one of four games I rolled cop in. Only one of them I actually got to play .

[SuperJack]

You will likely make it to final 3 in a bus scenario and I believe a win would be well deserved.

The only reason I'm keeping it in mind is that hooker is still alive, but then it'd be auto anyway if they werent.

I agree with you, I would of totally bussed DM if I was scum. Only thing I could say is that I would of never targeted Light for the kill on N1. Would of killed between You/Happy/Ozzy as these are the hardest to manipulate for me.

[SuperJack]

I mean tbf I don't really need PRs to win. I was playing viedeo mafia last night and managed to win 2 separate games mislynching PR day 1. Truth be told PRs are a little overrated (though I'm a top notch medic I have always made game winning saves on people no one expects).

This is literally like one of four games I rolled cop in. Only one of them I actually got to play .

You couldn't do your cop job because you was roleblocked and had sexi time with the Consort. No way am I am implying you at day game.
In fact, you could say you are a terrible power role because you got blocked twice and you suck at being TPR.

[Happymeal]

You couldn't do your cop job because you was roleblocked and had sexi time with the Consort. No way am I am implying you at day game.
In fact, you could say you are a terrible power role because you got blocked twice and you suck at being TPR.

Well mafia may have fucked up blocking me tbh because it's basically equivalent to a check. Like how obvious was DM deciding I was the best block? Effectively I checked a player by being blocked

[SuperJack]

Well mafia may have fucked up blocking me tbh because it's basically equivalent to a check. Like how obvious was DM deciding I was the best block? Effectively I checked a player by being blocked

Whoever day 2 was arguing the sheriff revealing no matter who they checked is the same person who decided to block you again because they believe that the Sheriff would of revealed, and since they didn't determined you are the Sheriff. (impossible for you to be doctor)

[Grayswandir]

I dont think light blocks people, ive never seen it happen,

[SuperJack]

@Grayswandir
@OzyWho
@naz


Are you three ok with being lynched, or do any of you believe I am more likely to be scum than the other two that would get lynched along with you.

[Light_Yagami]

So Let Me Get This Straight Frinckles Claims To Have Healed Me N1 Then Claims To Have Been Roleblocked N2 And We Have A Mafia Kill N2.. Can Consort Do Both Kill And Role Block? Somethings Not Adding Up Here.. Got My Calculator Out And Im Doing The Math And Somethings Not Adding Up.

[SuperJack]

So Let Me Get This Straight Frinckles Claims To Have Healed Me N1 Then Claims To Have Been Roleblocked N2 And We Have A Mafia Kill N2.. Can Consort Do Both Kill And Role Block? Somethings Not Adding Up Here.. Got My Calculator Out And Im Doing The Math And Somethings Not Adding Up.

They can both Roleblock and Nightkill even with just 1 alive.

Are you a Citizen? Happy claims Cop and Frink claims Doc.
If you claim Citizen then it confirms you three as town.

The uncomfirmed people who can be scum are Me, Naz, Ozzy and Grey.

[SuperJack]

Happy - Cop- Roleblocked N1 and N2
Frinckles - Doc - N1 Healed Light successfully, N2 happy

[OzyWho]

@Grayswandir
@OzyWho
@naz


Are you three ok with being lynched, or do any of you believe I am more likely to be scum than the other two that would get lynched along with you.

I have stated like 3 times already that us 3 are the lynch pool, I don't believe you to be deep wolf - that's unrealistic imo because would have planned how D2 went during N1.

I prefer gray first lynch. Fun fact: gray is only one of us 3 whom DM didn't have a read on.

Serious question: how do you play when every page on this site loads for 10 minutes the past 4 hours? Slight exaggerating

[SuperJack]

I have stated like 3 times already that us 3 are the lynch pool, I don't believe you to be deep wolf - that's unrealistic imo because would have planned how D2 went during N1.

I prefer gray first lynch. Fun fact: gray is only one of us 3 whom DM didn't have a read on.

Serious question: how do you play when every page on this site loads for 10 minutes the past 4 hours? Slight exaggerating

Site is fast for me no problems from my end.
I've just gotta ask all 3 of you equally to be fair.
I've already posted my preferred lynch order.

[OzyWho]

Fun fact 2: DM's ISO was even more cringe than Gray's D2 ISO, but maybe that's just my restrospect bias.

[Grayswandir]

No, I’m not okay with being lynched, kek, what kind of a wuestion is that
I want to make it to the last 3, if ozy and naz die and they’re town, I’m still at a place where I can still see you as scum if they’re somehow both town, and I don’t want that to happen

[Grayswandir]

Ozy, if you wanna see who DM spews scum more, take a look at d2, you’re pretty much the only one who never interacted with DM, and pushed other lynched such as myself, so go away

[OzyWho]

Wait how is Frinckles the top poster?
I thought for sure his activity was somewhere between naz and light..

[Grayswandir]

So Let Me Get This Straight Frinckles Claims To Have Healed Me N1 Then Claims To Have Been Roleblocked N2 And We Have A Mafia Kill N2.. Can Consort Do Both Kill And Role Block? Somethings Not Adding Up Here.. Got My Calculator Out And Im Doing The Math And Somethings Not Adding Up.

Claim your role.

[OzyWho]

Ozy, if you wanna see who DM spews scum more, take a look at d2, you’re pretty much the only one who never interacted with DM, and pushed other lynched such as myself, so go away

Right right.. I'm so bad I'd open wolf...
You see right through me every step of the way.

[Grayswandir]

In any case, naz > Ozy > SuperJack is where I’m at.
SuperJack is highly unlikely, I don’t think we’ll ever reach that point, I think he’s town, but if they’re both town, it has to be him

[Grayswandir]

also @Happymeal since you talked about Ozy, I think Ozy has slightly lower scum equity than naz, he tried to solve on d2, whereas naz did not

[OzyWho]

In any case, naz > Ozy > SuperJack is where I’m at.
SuperJack is highly unlikely, I don’t think we’ll ever reach that point, I think he’s town, but if they’re both town, it has to be him

@Grayswandir
Fine then, let's hammer. I'll give you your F3, won't be up to me.

-vote naz

[Frinckles]

Wait how is Frinckles the top poster?
I thought for sure his activity was somewhere between naz and light..

We've interacted like once, maybe.

[Grayswandir]

And now I really need to leave, my old meta is showing itself again, bye

[Frinckles]

Anyway, GL in the days to come. Ripperino Naz :[

[Frinckles]

And now I really need to leave, my old meta is showing itself again, bye

Is it really an old meta if it keeps coming back?

[Frinckles]

As an aside, I think optimal play here for a cornered wolf would be to act complacent in the case of whether they'd be lynched.

I've seen that form Gray and Ozy, not so much Naz. Kind of worrying.

Still, this ends in a 1 confirmed with 2 unconfirmed at worst.

[SuperJack]

-vote Grayswandir

Your read and confidence on me does not match your desperate need to survive and inability to sacrifice yourself to ensure scum is lynched.
If you are town, you played well until today.

[SuperJack]

As an aside, I think optimal play here for a cornered wolf would be to act complacent in the case of whether they'd be lynched.

I've seen that form Gray and Ozy, not so much Naz. Kind of worrying.

Still, this ends in a 1 confirmed with 2 unconfirmed at worst.

Ozzy seems the most complacent and the most likely to of deduced sheriff.
Gray has a desperate need for survival and a willingness to ignore their reads for the sake of survival.
Naz is being distant.

Why is this so difficult.

[OzyWho]

We've interacted like once, maybe.

How I view activity is not limited to a players interactions with me.
Your D1 D2 contributions were nearly non-existent tbh.
Advocated for skip and gave rudementary poe lists, which you changed 3 times in a sequence too.

I wish we had interacted, I wish you had replied when I asked you something, but that's old news now. (#622)

My god this slow loading speed is killing me...

[Light_Yagami]

They can both Roleblock and Nightkill even with just 1 alive.

Are you a Citizen? Happy claims Cop and Frink claims Doc.
If you claim Citizen then it confirms you three as town.

The uncomfirmed people who can be scum are Me, Naz, Ozzy and Grey.

I Claim Mayor..lol Yeah Im Citizen.

[Light_Yagami]

Claim your role.

I Did Like 3 Times Already.

[OzyWho]

-vote grayswandir

[Light_Yagami]

I Dont Get How The Escort Can Do Both Though Youd Think They Would Be To Busy Doing One Either Role Blocking Or Killing.. That Seems Quite Over Powered From My Point Of View

[Light_Yagami]

I Dont Get How The Escort Can Do Both Though Youd Think They Would Be To Busy Doing One Either Role Blocking Or Killing.. That Seems Quite Over Powered From My Point Of View

Consort Correction

[SuperJack]

I Claim Mayor..lol Yeah Im Citizen.

Nice. So Me, Naz, Ozzy and Grey are the options to lynch.

You have 3 lynches. Happy and Frinkles will be night killed.
You have to pick one to read as town and keep alive.
You will most likely be the one to make the final call if it gets to just 3 left alive.
Look out for anyone trying to pocket you.
If you have to make the final call, please read the entire game, (Or just ISO of the remaining living to be quicker). Look at votes, reads, and interactions with Dark Magician. Try to ignore other peoples opinion at that stage and focus on coming to your own conclusion and take your time before you place the vote.

[SuperJack]

Consort Correction

You are a Consort. You may vote during the day. If your partner is dead, you may roleblock and kill. The mafia only have one kill per night. As a member of the mafia, you must determine who is being sent to kill.

Your partner is Player X, who is a mafioso. Your discord is here.

Consort rolecard from setup.

[Light_Yagami]

Consort rolecard from setup.

Yeah I See That Just Seems OP..lol

[OzyWho]

I Dont Get How The Escort Can Do Both Though Youd Think They Would Be To Busy Doing One Either Role Blocking Or Killing.. That Seems Quite Over Powered From My Point Of View

It's necessary for balance tbh. Even still if consort dies D1 town has basically won with follow the cop strategy 100%.

A setup like this, except with 2 citizens less, was more popular in epicmafia than nearly all other setups combined. At least I think so, not too familiar with the site.
I think it's fair to assume that they viewed that setup balanced and would view this town favored.

[OzyWho]

Nice. So Me, Naz, Ozzy and Grey are the options to lynch.

You have 3 lynches. Happy and Frinkles will be night killed.
You have to pick one to read as town and keep alive.
You will most likely be the one to make the final call if it gets to just 3 left alive.
Look out for anyone trying to pocket you.
If you have to make the final call, please read the entire game, (Or just ISO of the remaining living to be quicker). Look at votes, reads, and interactions with Dark Magician. Try to ignore other peoples opinion at that stage and focus on coming to your own conclusion and take your time before you place the vote.

This is you pocketing him.


I mean, let's be real here. You'll be F3 guaranteed if game hasn't ended by then and are telling light to not trust the other guy in F3 here.

[SuperJack]

This is you pocketing him.


I mean, let's be real here. You'll be F3 guaranteed if game hasn't ended by then and are telling light to not trust the other guy in F3 here.

Yup, I thought it would be clear that it could be seen as pocketing. So tempted to even point it out and make a Joke.
And no, I'm telling Light not to listen to other people (Which includes me) and come to their own decision if it comes to it.

[Grayswandir]

-vote Grayswandir

Your read and confidence on me does not match your desperate need to survive and inability to sacrifice yourself to ensure scum is lynched.
If you are town, you played well until today.

You’re right it doesnt, do whatever, I dont care, as I said my old meta is slipping through the cracks, if you guys feel the need to lynch me then do it

[OzyWho]

And no, I'm telling Light not to listen to other people (Which includes me) and come to their own decision if it comes to it.

Let me introduce you to Light. This is Light, very stubborn, makes up his own mind, has trouble understanding sarcasm, and basically a brick wall if you ever want to persuade him something that he doesn't want.
(sorry if wrong)

[Frinckles]

How I view activity is not limited to a players interactions with me.
Your D1 D2 contributions were nearly non-existent tbh.
Advocated for skip and gave rudementary poe lists, which you changed 3 times in a sequence too.

I wish we had interacted, I wish you had replied when I asked you something, but that's old news now. (#622)

My god this slow loading speed is killing me...

My read lists were lies so that way Mafia could not find out that I knew Light was town.