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    S-FM Dark Star Legion 9P

    FM Dark Star Legion


    So we all know these guys named Zedus and Frostbyte.
    They insult, vote town, help scum and cost town the Victory making Town Upset.
    People were so irritated at them that they started insulting them but Zedus and Frostbyte didn’t like that because they like to insult and no one else.
    So they revolted and said “Town no More!” To create a new Faction called the Dark Star Legion.
    Town will have to do whatever they can to defeat the Dark Star Legion.
    Leading Town comes Dark Magician, Frostbyte and Zedus’s more hated rival.
    The Dark Star Legion has a Factional Poison.
    All roles are Unique.
    There is no Death Notes or Last Wills. (Except for Renegade)

    Rolesetup:
    Dark Magician
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Zedus
    Frostbyte


    Rolecards:

    Zedus

    You have 3 1-Shot Abilities

    Almighty Check
    Check someone for their role, if they are Dark Magician kill them instead.

    Supreme Rule
    During the day you can secretly apply yourself as a Double Voter

    Utter Domination
    Choose a target, they will also die to the factional poison

    Frostbyte

    You are Bulletproof.
    You know every Role that visits you and you will visit and Roleblock them the next following night.
    You are immune to Bus Driver and Redirection Abilities.


    Dark Magician

    You will survive the first Poison made against you.
    During the Day you can choose a player and if they were poisoned last night you will remove the poison.
    During the Night you can choose a player and force them to visit another.

    Gyrlander
    Choose a player at night and see who visits them

    Deathworlds
    During the night you can choose a player and if that player would be poisoned, you will be poisoned instead.

    Voss

    You have a Lightsaber, but it’s badly damaged.
    You can attack someone during the night but only once.

    Naz

    During the Night you can choose 2 targets and you will swap all targets on them to the other.

    Banana

    Upon being lynched, you can choose a player and take them down with you.

    Mesk514

    You have no abilities

    Auwt

    During the night choose a player and prevent them from preforming their night ability

    Marshmallow Marshal
    Choose a player at night and see who they visited

    Mike
    During the night choose a player and force them to visit themselves

    Renegade
    During the night choose a player and force them to visit you
    Your also so smart that you have a Last Will that you can write on and it will be shown upon death.

    Frinckles
    At the start of the game you will be told the name of who Dark Magician is.

    Whysper
    If Dark Magician would die while your still alive, you will die instead

    Oberon
    The first time you would be lynched, the day will end instead.
    You are immune to Poison if that poison was done by Frostbyte

    Baker
    Your vote secretly counts as 2.
    You are immune to Poison if that poison was done by Zedus
    Last edited by Dark Magician; December 6th, 2020 at 03:45 PM.

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    Re: FM Dark Star Legion 9P

    Citizen mesk ftw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post

    Frostbyte

    You are Bulletproof.
    YES HAHAHA THIS IS HILARIOUS. Just so admins know, I have no problem with this setup baring my name. I'm super OK with it.

    You really should change DM role though. It should only allow you to post 5 times d1 and be super unhelpful to town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    At least @Zedus and me so we know you did this. DM coward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Lol.
    This would need mechanics (phase lenght, lynch system, last wills and death notes allowed or not, etc.), an OoO, rules as you see fit, colors, salt and pepper.
    Looks fun(ny) .

    What's the "factional poison" exactly? When do people die from it, when is it applied, and can it be used along with another ability?

    How do you plan to make Zedus' "double vote" secret?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Lol.
    This would need mechanics (phase lenght, lynch system, last wills and death notes allowed or not, etc.), an OoO, rules as you see fit, colors, salt and pepper.
    Looks fun(ny) .

    What's the "factional poison" exactly? When do people die from it, when is it applied, and can it be used along with another ability?

    How do you plan to make Zedus' "double vote" secret?
    Factional Poison - They die at the end of the next day unless healed by DM.
    Zedus’s second vote is silent so for example Zedus activates his ability when it’s 3/4 Votes which makes it 4/4.
    No one will know who had the second vote just that it was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Factional Poison - They die at the end of the next day unless healed by DM.
    Zedus’s second vote is silent so for example Zedus activates his ability when it’s 3/4 Votes which makes it 4/4.
    No one will know who had the second vote just that it was done.
    How would the "silent vote" work? Unless the game has pure plurality lynch (without majority), it'd mean the host has to be here 24/7 to manage silent hammers that cannot be managed through the command (since it wouldn't be silent). That is obviously not possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Zedus should be able to send host a PM with their silent vote instead of only being able to use it in daychat. It would be super easy to PoE who has it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    How would the "silent vote" work? Unless the game has pure plurality lynch (without majority), it'd mean the host has to be here 24/7 to manage silent hammers that cannot be managed through the command (since it wouldn't be silent). That is obviously not possible.
    No it’s both Majority and Plurality.
    What happens is wherever Zedus is voting, an extra vote is there but it’s not shown it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Zedus should be able to send host a PM with their silent vote instead of only being able to use it in daychat. It would be super easy to PoE who has it.
    Not really.
    It would just confirm that someone on the lynched wagon is Zedus.
    Then you and Zedus just kill outside of the players who voted on the wagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    No it’s both Majority and Plurality.
    What happens is wherever Zedus is voting, an extra vote is there but it’s not shown it is.
    Okay, then what happens if Zedus votes someone who's at L-2? Or even more cruel, if Zedus places a vote on player A, that player A gets voted up to L-2 according to the public vote count, and then someone normal votes player A, which happens to actually be a hammer due to the secret Zedus vote? According to what you're saying, player A would be hammered in such a case, and you'd have to be there immediatly to close the thread because the bot won't do it for you (you can't make the additional vote secret if you run it through the bot).
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Okay, then what happens if Zedus votes someone who's at L-2? Or even more cruel, if Zedus places a vote on player A, that player A gets voted up to L-2 according to the public vote count, and then someone normal votes player A, which happens to actually be a hammer due to the secret Zedus vote? According to what you're saying, player A would be hammered in such a case, and you'd have to be there immediatly to close the thread because the bot won't do it for you (you can't make the additional vote secret if you run it through the bot).
    MM your still not understanding.
    You don’t know the second vote is there. It never shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    MM your still not understanding.
    You don’t know the second vote is there. It never shows.
    what I understand from secret votes;

    player x
    player y

    (according to vote count on site and bot)
    x is on L-1 (zedus, a, b, c, y)
    y is on L-1 (d, e, f, g, h)

    y gets hammered by x.

    zedus is in x wagon then host flips x instead of y even though y was hammered because of the secret vote.


    right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    It would just confirm that someone on the lynched wagon is Zedus.
    Exactly. 9p setup with extra voters. Day 1 4 people would have to lynch someone if Zedus was on the wagon. Say n1 one of those voters is confirmable town, then you have 1 in 3 on one of the 2 wolves day 2.
    If Baker and Zedus both voted the same person d1 you've got automatic mechanical 1 in 3 going into day 2. I guarantee even our "C tier roster" would be able to socially deduce a 1 in 3 by day 3.

    Zedus decides not to vote? Cool, lynch whoever didn't RVS day 1 GG you've got 1 wolf 8 town going into day 2

    It would devolve into 1 or 2 confirmed town forcing scummy player x to vote with them and see when a player gets hammered. This setup is so easily broken and that can be totally mitigated by making Zedus and Baker send host a PM with their extra vote.

    That way host can keep an eye on their PMs to know when an extra vote is coming into play so they know they have to watch the thread like a hawk. With the extra votes in 9p setup host is gonna have to basically stay home and read all day anyway.

    @Helz you're good at breaking setups. Am I wrong?
    Last edited by FrostByte; December 7th, 2020 at 10:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    If I was baker I'd switch my votes between people who have 2 votes on them to see if I'm hammering just to trap Zedus D1. Claim Baker d2, make it a 50/50 with town probably on the side of whoever claimed Baker first. That's GG day2. Scum kill baker n1? Cool, still day2 50/50

    Fuck, Baker could easily deduce Zedus and get him into a 50/50 day2. It wouldn't even be that hard, you'd just have to be opportunistic with your votes.
    Last edited by FrostByte; December 7th, 2020 at 11:05 AM.
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Exactly. 9p setup with extra voters. Day 1 4 people would have to lynch someone if Zedus was on the wagon. Say n1 one of those voters is confirmable town, then you have 1 in 3 on one of the 2 wolves day 2.
    If Baker and Zedus both voted the same person d1 you've got automatic mechanical 1 in 3 going into day 2. I guarantee even our "C tier roster" would be able to socially deduce a 1 in 3 by day 3.

    Zedus decides not to vote? Cool, lynch whoever didn't RVS day 1 GG you've got 1 wolf 8 town going into day 2

    It would devolve into 1 or 2 confirmed town forcing scummy player x to vote with them and see when a player gets hammered. This setup is so easily broken and that can be totally mitigated by making Zedus and Baker send host a PM with their extra vote.

    That way host can keep an eye on their PMs to know when an extra vote is coming into play so they know they have to watch the thread like a hawk. With the extra votes in 9p setup host is gonna have to basically stay home and read all day anyway.

    @Helz you're good at breaking setups. Am I wrong?
    Yeah, The double vote mechanic would be extremely easy to identify.

    I would suggest instead of it being a vote that counts for two allow the player to PM you with a 2nd separate vote and have the host cast the vote. It would add an interesting layer of WIFOM to see players deal with a confirmed scum vote and prevent them from using it to identify the player casting it.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Yeah, The double vote mechanic would be extremely easy to identify.

    I would suggest instead of it being a vote that counts for two allow the player to PM you with a 2nd separate vote and have the host cast the vote. It would add an interesting layer of WIFOM to see players deal with a confirmed scum vote and prevent them from using it to identify the player casting it.
    Bakermir is a potential town with a secret vote, too. Baker could easily confirm themselves at any time by saying "I'm baker and I'm PMing host to vote for X" and then doing it.
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

 

 

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