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  1. ISO #451

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I think it would be a good move for us to examine Frinckles and Frost a bit closer. I don't think a single player has made a real case on him. Its just been people making points here and there.

    I would be disappointed if we hammerd a town and then actually looked through him tonight and realized a more in depth read woulda prevented it.
    I can say we are mindmelding on that.
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  2. ISO #452

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    A mini-timeline I have in my notes:

    9 - Frinckles votes FrostByte
    247 - FB shows up for the second part of D1
    274 - MM votes FrostByte
    291 - I vote FrostByte
    300 - FB says he doesn't have reads and was very tired when he scumleaned Helz, starts making a lot of posts
    350 - FrostByte votes Frinckles

    Post 247, where FrostByte shows he's awake for today, and post 300, where FrostByte really starts responding and starts responding to everyone's posts, are 90 minutes apart. He's now the #2 poster. If he was always going to spring into action today, why didn't he do so sooner? It's not like post 300 or 301 were massive wallposts; they don't take a lot of time to make. So why is he talking more now? Because he knows his ass is on the line.

    I think FrostByte started off trying to be a lurker scum, and is now really trying to defend himself. Going after the next-most-viable yeet candidate is especially telling.

    I'm not ruling out the possibility that he's town. (If Frinckles is in fact scum, it could be FB voted Frinckles because he picked up on this scumminess. However, given his scumlean on you, I'm more inclined to believe he's been faking reads this game) It's D1, and there's only so much to go off of. But I *certainly* don't see a better person to yeet right now. (We have a replacement for DM lined up, and *if* he's a TPR, he wouldn't be able to claim to defend himself)
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Helz's table of claims makes me feel all the more certain FB is scum. Who else goes to #2 poster and his only read is a scumread on the person with the 2nd highest number of votes? How can he make 60+ posts with so few read-like opinions if he's not scum? If he were town trying to save himself, he would know there's AT LEAST 2 scum out there and doesn't need to tunnel on Frinckles when it's possible he could instead nail another scum. This kind of tunnelvision really strikes me as belly-up scum.
    @Helz , these two posts make up what I genuinely have as a case on FB.
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  3. ISO #453

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    @Mike
    camels-clipart-hump-day-camel-6_0.jpg

    Every time I read your name right now this pops in my head
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  4. ISO #454

  5. ISO #455

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    I love me a last minute gang bang, not gonna lie. TAKE ME AS I AM JESUS

    Anyways, I'm still hung up on Mike. This may be my tunnel vision but once I notice something, I'm fixated. I cannot understand what MattZed see's in him. I admit, he is very productive and contributes, but I don't see anything original being proposed besides his wagonomics, which was literally based on pretty much nothing, imo.

    A conversation created out of a fake vote in RVS, contributing, sure... but has no actual basis. As I said before, nothing stipulates the terms in which how you must participate in RVS.

    FB said some shit and Mike was like OMG RIGHT!?!?! (Definitely paraphrasing the jist of the response) WITH TWO PEOPLE CLAIMING CIT IT NARROWS THE POOL. well, firstly, a claim of anything narrows the pool. Right now I hard claim I'm a big fluffy bunny. You can now conclude there is one less fluffy bunny to find and look further into the other fluffy people around. EzPZ. It's just a very blanket objective statement. Anyone can deduce that any claim narrows the pool *shrugs*
    The rest from him is pretty much unoriginal and responses to questions. Ask anyone a question besides what are your reads, and you'll most probably be answered with some sort of formulated response. As was done by Mike. Of course if you have rose petal glasses when it comes to a certain slot that you'll tend to favor the response as opposed to rejecting it. Lol.

    I understand y'all men like some dick sucking here and there, but MattZed, I truly believe these responses are formulated to appease you. Nothing outside of wagonomics was really original. And he didn't create wagonomics himself.

    *on a side note, I find people to pull out all that fancy shit to be try hards* oh look, MattZed usually does all that fancy shit, MattZed loves fancy shit, so of course you're gonna get a hard on when someone says something that appeals to your caliber of game play. Take the damn glasses off and question what the motivations are here for the love of God. You are a goddamn legend, same as Helz. The play here really feels like swaying the two people who have the best ability to influence people for ulterior motives. Appeal, appeal, appeal.

    And outside of that, FB has done what? Oberon has done what? Frinckles has done what? MM has done what? All looking like flies on the wall to me (pot calling kettle black, I know). Just watch three people dictate the course of the game, and if your town believing one of these three hardcore (which is everyone besides those three) follow the one who seems the smartest with the best formulated the opinion. *shrugs* formulated ANSWERS DONT MEAN SHIT, THEYRE CALCULATED and based on ones biased perspective.

    Oh of course then there's the adding of the low hanging fruit to the lynch possibility list, AND I LITERALLY HATE PEOPLE WHO MAKE PREFLIP ASSOCIATIONS, THAT SHIT IS SO FUCKING SUS. Based off any game I have every played on this site, every single person who has ever made a preflip association within the first day has been scum. Or just MattZed.

    I cant take two MattZeds in this game and MattZed tries too damn hard and does all that fancy shit which in turn makes me question whether that shit is genuine as well.

    But to be clear since I ain't no fence sitting bitch, Mike at the bottom of non existing list. MattZed would probably be placed in the town section for the rest of the day cause my brain would explode if I even bothered looking into that.

    Due to the love and support he's gotten so far, I highly doubt the train i suggest would gain momentum. But thats what I feel is correct and I ain't budging. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. and unless someone does something worse than faking sincerity to appeal to others, I'm keeping my vote parked.

    -vote Mike
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  6. ISO #456

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Wow, I'm so ashamed of how much I wrote, thats so unlike me for day 1. Someone call the meta police, I broke my own rule.
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  7. ISO #457

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I saw what you were getting at but I just don't see it.

    From his play off the top of my head this is my thinking:

    Last game I played with him he was Town. He was low participation D1 and going into D2 I poked him for participation and he basically told me to fuck off. That is totally consistent with his play this game but his interactions with Frinckles feel very different to me. I really felt like he was going hard ATE this time while he had more reasoning last game. He is also tearing at Frinckles arguments with strawman attacks and his tone felt almost frantic. It reminded me of how I feel when I am totally scum but someone is scum reading me for a reason that makes no sense to me.

    Granted I do still need to do a full Iso on him as well as a few others and perhaps my opinion could change if we get to see him partake in the game outside of the defensive 1v1 with Frinckles.
    Strawman attacks? Elaborate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

  8. ISO #458

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    @Helz , these two posts make up what I genuinely have as a case on FB.
    There's 0 case there though. I told you why I didn't talk at the beginning of the day. Don't try to scum paint me for lurking for 12 hours. There's no logic there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

  9. ISO #459

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Only 2 scum and I could be wrong. I will help.
    -vote Frostbyte
    So he puts me at L-1
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I think it would be a good move for us to examine Frinckles and Frost a bit closer. I don't think a single player has made a real case on him. Its just been people making points here and there.

    I would be disappointed if we hammerd a town and then actually looked through him tonight and realized a more in depth read woulda prevented it.
    Then agrees with this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I can say we are mindmelding on that.
    If you agreed then why vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

  10. ISO #460

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    I thought this was supposed to be a high effort game?

    I'm being trained for lurking for 12 hours? Soft as fuck.

    Y'all can fuck all the way off with that. Unless someone has specific, concrete, logical reasons to lynch me I don't wanna hear any more bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

  11. ISO #461

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Yes! Hit me up on Discord when you guys are available.
    Non game related but next time we have a game night I will drop you a line. I should warn you they can be moderately ridiculous sometimes.
    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Strawman attacks? Elaborate.
    I am digging through everything now. Off the top of my head I felt like you were strawmanning Frinckles posts but we will see when I get there.

    I do feel MattZed has points I would sum up as:

    Your survival focused
    Your opportunistic on Frinckles
    Your focus is exclusively on Frinckles while he would expect a town to hunt elsewhere
    You are very widely scum read
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  12. ISO #462

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    I thought this was supposed to be a high effort game?

    I'm being trained for lurking for 12 hours? Soft as fuck.

    Y'all can fuck all the way off with that. Unless someone has specific, concrete, logical reasons to lynch me I don't wanna hear any more bullshit.
    Im working now digging through you.

    It would be helpful for you to dig through another player. Keep in mind if you really are town and we end up derp lynching you it will push your win condition forward given that your words will come from the perspective of a post flip confirmed townie.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  13. ISO #463

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Only 2 scum and I could be wrong. I will help.
    -vote Frostbyte
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I think it would be a good move for us to examine Frinckles and Frost a bit closer. I don't think a single player has made a real case on him. Its just been people making points here and there.

    I would be disappointed if we hammerd a town and then actually looked through him tonight and realized a more in depth read woulda prevented it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Non game related but next time we have a game night I will drop you a line. I should warn you they can be moderately ridiculous sometimes.
    I am digging through everything now. Off the top of my head I felt like you were strawmanning Frinckles posts but we will see when I get there.

    I do feel MattZed has points I would sum up as:

    Your survival focused
    Your opportunistic on Frinckles
    Your focus is exclusively on Frinckles while he would expect a town to hunt elsewhere
    You are very widely scum read
    I don't want town to mislynch day 1.
    It's not opportunism. He's talking out the side of his face, overstating his confidence in his reads. He admits that they don't make sense and then doubles down on how great his reads are.
    Focus has not been exclusively on one person. That's false.
    I'm scum read for being absent for 12 hours but I've been posting for almost 18 hours on and off now. I've more than made up for it.

    I'm not doing much without sleep.

    If y'all lynch me before I wake up town is fucking retarded and deserves to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I will go ahead and fuck this cat
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Heavy Handed View Post
    yeah I'm not gonna sit around here analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

  14. ISO #464

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    If Mesk hadn't come in here with that massive post, I'd be threatening to put FrostByte at L-1 unless he claims cit/TP1/TP2.

    I'm going to read into Mesk and what she said. (probably re-read Mike while I'm at it) Should have something to say within 30 mins.
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  15. ISO #465

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    All I can say is that I have no intention of ending the day early.

    If you are town I feel that your best defense would be doing something in addition to attacking arguments against you given that one of the points made against you is your survival focus.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  16. ISO #466

  17. ISO #467

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    I can concede to @Mesk514 that I may be overconfident on my Mike townread, but I'm still giving him some form of a town read. As far as I can tell, he's almost the only one willing to scumread more than one person. Granted, this could actually be a sign he's faking confidence and doesn't know how many scumreads a town should have at this point. Mike is just acting so differently from everyone else, and he's changing his mind a lot faster. If all I knew about a player was that their reads stand out and are constantly shifting, I'd consider that a scumtell.

    But I think it's more likely that he's just *aggressively* looking to find scum any way he can. He's not under any pressure right now, and yet he's aggressively trying to get the most out of D1 in a way that I'm not seeing out of anyone else except maybe Helz. My current theory is that what makes Mike's play so "different" from everyone else's is that he's tryharding as town right now, while the more experienced players are being more reserved because they know D1 is hard. (see how all of Helz' reads are soft) I am serious that I see a less experienced version of myself in Mike. He's putting in a lot of energy into playing this game, and I'm not seeing the sort of deception/ sowing chaos that I would expect from a tryhard scum.

    I'm downgrading my read of him to a mild townread because I have instincts pushing both ways. I certainly don't think he should be in the yeet pool today/tomorrow, but I'll still be mulling over what Mesk said about my biases and re-evaluating Mike in light of any flips that happen. (NOTE: some flips, like FB flipping scum, could increase my confidence in a townread)
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  18. ISO #468

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    I'll take it, but not enough to make me budge from my stance.

    "My current theory is that what makes Mike's play so "different" from everyone else's is that he's tryharding as town right now, while the more experienced players are being more reserved because they know D1 is hard."

    but see, thats still based off your bias of him being town. he can try just as hard as any scum *thinking emoji here*
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  19. ISO #469

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    I like Mesk coming in with thoughts. (@Helz, I wonder how much of it was because you suggested adding her to the yeet pool. I'm curious how you read her in light of her post, given your alleged poker history.) They're sensible and consistent. I saw Mesk early on fighting against overstating things in D1 when there's no material to base it on, but now that we've had a lot of content she's willing to take a stand. Don't create chaos, but state your opinions when you have a moment of clarity. Feels very pro-town, and combined with my meta read... is Mesk my strongest townread?!?

    I'd have to re-evaluate Helz/MM to know, but Mesk is definitely up there now. I'm not at all comfortable adding her to the yeet pool.

    As far as I'm concerned, yeet pool is FrostByte+Frinckles+Oberon. I'm really getting low-effort town vibes from Frinckles, and would go to Oberon if FB claims TPR and doesn't get CC'd.

    With this clarity, I can no longer tolerate FB's lack of a claim.

    @FrostByte , claim cit/TP1/TP2, or die. If you're a cit, I also expect to see something OTHER than a tunneled case on Frinckles. We really don't have the time to get everyone on board for another train, so if you have something exonerating to share, it's time.

    -vote FrostByte
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  20. ISO #470

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I'll take it, but not enough to make me budge from my stance.

    "My current theory is that what makes Mike's play so "different" from everyone else's is that he's tryharding as town right now, while the more experienced players are being more reserved because they know D1 is hard."

    but see, thats still based off your bias of him being town. he can try just as hard as any scum *thinking emoji here*
    Mesk, my townread, show my bias to me. Quote me some posts where you think "how could anyone, except MattZed, think this is from a town perspective?" Show me where I'm giving him credit he doesn't deserve.
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  21. ISO #471

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    @MartinGG99 , I know I've seen you browsing this thread, and you know you're probably about to replace in to Dark Magician.

    Your slot is basically scum by default for most people's reads. When you place in, you're going to need to give some solid contributions if you want to survive. You've seen this coming far enough in advance. "Hey guys, just joined the game, catching up" is NOT going to cut it D2.
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  22. ISO #472

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Mesk, my townread, show my bias to me. Quote me some posts where you think "how could anyone, except MattZed, think this is from a town perspective?" Show me where I'm giving him credit he doesn't deserve.
    okay, bias was not the correct term there. or maybe it was, idk, I'm tired (I typed 39 pages size 8 font in 16 hours and haven't seen my bed since Tuesday 6am), but I was merely trying to point out your wording here. Your theory is based on the fact that he's trying hard..... as town, but you don't know he's town... (unless you really do)... you just know he's trying hard... and you think that makes him town. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HE'S TRYING HARD AS TOWN.
    you know what, as I write this I begin to feel stupid and am catching myself overthinking. i get it, your belief is in this case he's tryharding as town.

    *feels stupid*

    no wait, what...? no... i think my point still stands, cause you're saying what makes him different is that he's tryharding as town, which means no one else is tryharding as town? just mike?

    GODDAMN VYVANSE, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE ME ARTICULATE.

    as a side note, I'll totally admit Helz mentioning gangbanging me pushed me to make a long post on my phone, which i very much wanted to avoided cause 1-phone, 2- tried. Fuck, even Mike said sleep drunk doesn't translate well. lol, it really doesn't, but anyways... Ya can't ping me to sign for a game, have someone give up their spot for me, and then mislynch me day 1. I have very little dignity when it comes to this site, but I will never allow myself to be lynched day 1 with my name attached. (see some sort of arsonist/douse checker game where MM tunnelled me to the point i spiraled and just took the noose to prove how dumb feeble his read was)
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  23. ISO #473

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    goddamn, another longish post, I hate that you're going this to me.
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  24. ISO #474

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    I don't want town to mislynch day 1.
    It's not opportunism. He's talking out the side of his face, overstating his confidence in his reads. He admits that they don't make sense and then doubles down on how great his reads are.
    Focus has not been exclusively on one person. That's false.
    I'm scum read for being absent for 12 hours but I've been posting for almost 18 hours on and off now. I've more than made up for it.

    I'm not doing much without sleep.

    If y'all lynch me before I wake up town is fucking retarded and deserves to lose.
    -unvote
    this is not a scummy mindset. I do not like my vote in him I doubted my own reads becuse you all told me and you Helz that I was the only one town reading him. I thought maybe I am wrong I have hard town read a player before and they where scum maybe I am missing something. But I do not feel right voteing on FB. Flame me post game if I am wrong on FB Idgaf I will not put my vote back on him for day 1.
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  25. ISO #475

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    My first thought: I don't think of what Mike was doing as "fancy shit," but I'm open to seeing it as being calculated to appease me specifically, and pre-flip associations may be a minor scumtell.
    Appease you ROFLOL You talk me into voteing my town read how I can be wrong everyoen else is scum reading him. I am the only one town reading him. And you are saying I am trying to appease you that is a Laff.
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    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    @MartinGG99 , I know I've seen you browsing this thread, and you know you're probably about to replace in to Dark Magician.

    Your slot is basically scum by default for most people's reads. When you place in, you're going to need to give some solid contributions if you want to survive. You've seen this coming far enough in advance. "Hey guys, just joined the game, catching up" is NOT going to cut it D2.
    Let him join the fucking game if he's joining man. Giving tips to a player who isn't technically in the game is nice n all but it's a little sketch in a ladder.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    The above portion are players I'm willing to step away from for now. The bottom portion are players that I feel need to be pressure significantly more with some exception to DM's slot.

    Oberon
    Mesk514
    MattZed
    FrostByte
    --------------------------------------------------
    Marshmallow Marshall
    Mike
    Helz


    Dark Magician
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Like a lot of things are plausible:
    Oberon is just bombastic powerwolfing
    Mesk is lying about citizen meta for the first time
    Mattzed is a bad dude like corn pop
    Frostbyte is the king of misunderstandings

    But then I see you cats pillow pushing
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

  35. ISO #485

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    At this point in time, I have no doubt in my mind that I could convince you all to lynch FB by EOD.

    Therein lies a problem because I am not convinced he is scum entirely anymore. He could be, but perhaps I'd need more from the identified parties.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

  36. ISO #486

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Or perhaps FB has not done a good enough job in professing how town he might be. Even a slot I'd give a pass to (Mz) pushed me subdley and then retracted it. Muu high effort low effort.

    I can figure that out later. But to those of you who are town, try talking to other people.

    Before you bring it up, yes I know you said this earlier Helz. But since I'm in this position I thought I'd reiterate it again.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

  37. ISO #487

  38. ISO #488

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    At this point in time, I have no doubt in my mind that I could convince you all to lynch FB by EOD.

    Therein lies a problem because I am not convinced he is scum entirely anymore. He could be, but perhaps I'd need more from the identified parties.
    You not entirely sure or you scared of his flip???
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I am not entirely sure. I think he might be just a fucking Goomba.
    Yet you scum reading me? Yet I am litterly the only one who is town reading him. Yes I did let mat and heals convince me to pressure him.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  43. ISO #493

    Re: S-FM 317: Eternia [LADDER]

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Then again that's somewhat loaded isn't it?
    Yes it is becuse I belive you are scum. I will be really surprised if you don’t flip scum.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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