Firstly, I would like to say that I am not here to seek being unbanned; however, given the history and strong opinions each of us has about each other, I find it essential to say my peace. Marshmallow Marshall has hidden behind other staff members to appear unbiased, although I already know he pretty much just said "post this" about the situation.
Before he says, "oh well, Deathworlds made the post because it included other infractions," have some balls to do it yourself since your ridiculousness shouldn't be cast upon Deathworlds as well.
As a member of this community for several years and a participant of FM, I find it important to host a game every few years. Since returning, I have not hosted yet played in several games; therefore, it was time to host myself. Unfortunately, in haste, I made a hosting error. However, it is important to note that Marshmallow Marshall had messaged me saying,Anyways, to rectify the situation, I proposed potentially applying the vest I had missed on Frinckles if he escaped the noose and was attacked. Marshmallow Marshall agreed to this, and said I shouldn't tell anyone.Also, I'm not against making peace. Not saying we will or should be friends lol, but we could at least stop being in conflict at this point.
I explained that as the host, I specifically said I have total discretion to which he said,okay, maybe he has a chance
idk if the players should be made aware of this tho
because it's definetly strange for them atm, and if Frinckles actually gets to have his vest, the SK will be very much confused
Deeming it acceptable to bend the setup rules in favour of his faction to correct the error.I mean, it's... strongly implied, but sure your call as host abotu how you manage that, was just suggesting
This is what I deemed fair for all parties, as the host. It happens sometimes that host errors are made, as we are human and, well... human error. However, the error was not out of malice or hate; it was merely just an error. I have played my fair share of games where host errors are made and go uncorrected. When host errors go uncorrected or left as is, unfortunately, it may be unfair for some parties. There has never been anyone punished on this site for making a human error, as that would be deemed ridiculous because it is. In this case, Frinckles did not escape the noose and was lynched. As the host, I recognized that it would be unfair for the remaining neutral. Therefore I decided since Frinckles didn't escape the noose, the remaining flips wouldn't be shown.
Again, the intention here was not malice, nor destructive, and virtually had little to no influence, but was a judgment made in the interest of fairness. Anyone within the game who had messaged me regarding this was answered with an apology and an explanation about how I was attempting to rectify the error. Not one person complained directly to me or shared their feelings about how they felt it was unfair.
Not one person rioted or said anything directly to me expressing feelings of unfair treatment.Erm, what are you doing with the Frinckles flip lol? I got complaints that you... didn't flip someone in a game with flips
And if it may interest you, you even were reported for not following the setup earlier...
You're gonna have a riot if you don't fix that
You see, it is absolutely ridiculous to report someone for human error and should go unfounded. So I did not care who reported me about my mistake because it was an honest mistake.Lmfao I really don't care
It's not a ladder game
And zedus can literally shut up
I cant be reported for a hosting error
His view of intentionally morphing this into a flipless without telling players was wrong. While intentional, yes, but only to make it fair for the remaining players. Anyone who had asked was told the situation, and as the host, I deemed it fair to respond to anyone who asked. I felt no need to go out of my way to tell people who had messaged me "OMG YOU MADE A MISTAKE YOURE SUCH A BAD HOST YOU RUINED THE GAME" when the original error was made, as that sort of disrespect doesn't warrant my time.I cannot confirm or deny who reported you but there was more than one person who complained
and ladder game or not, you're supposed to respect the setup and not intentionally morph this into a flipless without telling your players...
i honestly don't care about you announcing my death, it was an honest mistake lol
But literally not flipping people in a normal setup is a no-no
now people cannot know if mafia still exists
With a game filled with personal insults and stupidity, not one person respected me as the host. So to say I must respect the setup, in a game where respect is thrown out of the window, was just... ridiculous.What are you going to do
Ban me from hosting another setup?
Zedus can suck a dick and Oberon was going to die
The others are fine as I spoke to them
So it's okay
So you can kindly take the "respecting the set up", and shove it up your ass
Clearly, he didn't like my response. However, you can not big dick me when you have no dick. I was mentioned in the moderation thread for being placed on hold. I had messaged Deathworlds to grow a pair, knowing it wasn't him who came up with this idea, and to post the ridiculous reasoning as to why I was being placed for having an on-hold infraction. I was then banned from hosting, lol.
There are no rules that stipulate I must respect a moderator outside of the forums. Basically, claiming I went out of my way to ruin my own game and infringe upon other player's experience is unfounded. There was no such thing. It was a correction to an error. An error that was deemed alright to fix, as long as it benefitted his faction.
This idea of punishing someone for rectifying an error goes against the system's integrity and shows the bias of one's feelings towards the host. Not only that, but allowing corrections to be made in your favour, but not others, is "a no-no."
With all that being said, I have concluded that Marshmallow Marshall should take his "Therefore Mesk514 is henceforth banned from hosting games due to intentionally and avoidably not following the setup by not making players flip anymore at some point of the game. Note that although the ban is unlimited in lenght, we are not closed to appeals in the non-immediate future" and shove it up his ass
*i am not suggesting MM is a horrible moderator/person, corrupt, all that stuff people said about me . I am merely stating and highlighting how in this case, he was unable to moderate without bias.