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  1. #2351

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Yeah naz is pretty lock town from this. Unless it's a triad big balls play getting rid of switcher early but that would be an oberon level bad move and I don't see that coming from naz
    Annnnnnndddd Renegade is pretty much lock scum >.>

    Not to beat a dead horse but I get warm fuzzy feelings when my reads get confirmed~
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  2. #2352

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I would rather a !scum Naz world rather than a !scum Helz world tbh
    sexist!!!! (jk lol pls don't be offended)
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  3. #2353

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    did Renegade say who he was on last night bc it obviously wasnt me

    in a work mtg boss just walked back in
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  4. #2354

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    So I honestly do not see us loosing this game. BD can bus back onto DH and Doc/BG in play makes nightkills a minefield in a game with a very small PoE.

    I think Frinckles and Naz pretty much broke the game N1. Kinda feel sorry for the Triad. They didn't stand a chance with this lineup.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  5. #2355

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    lmk if anyone cares for my lw I finally wrote one last night lol
    its not long
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  6. #2356

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Anyways, I gotta run. My participation today will probably be a bit shit but I don't think much work is needed and I will be back for the second half of the day if you guys dont choose to early hammer.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  7. #2357

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Annnnnnndddd Renegade is pretty much lock scum >.>

    Not to beat a dead horse but I get warm fuzzy feelings when my reads get confirmed~
    We all get those warm feelings I think. Russel Brand did a bit about the warm clever feelings that people get when they understand something clever in his Messiah standup routine and it's so true lmfao
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    READ THIS THREAD RIGHT NAO

  8. #2358

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    So I honestly do not see us loosing this game. BD can bus back onto DH and Doc/BG in play makes nightkills a minefield in a game with a very small PoE.

    I think Frinckles and Naz pretty much broke the game N1. Kinda feel sorry for the Triad. They didn't stand a chance with this lineup.
    MAN and on top of that switcher jumped into a triad and got rekt

    Mostly bad luck for triad but partially good plays from town
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    READ THIS THREAD RIGHT NAO

  9. #2359

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Yeah naz is pretty lock town from this. Unless it's a triad big balls play getting rid of switcher early but that would be an oberon level bad move and I don't see that coming from naz
    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    can confirm fb visited ONLY me last night so he is NOT CA/DH
    Oh wonderful.

    Triad panicking because I caught the DH and the squeeze is getting tighter on them.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  10. #2360

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    @MartinGG99 , who did you switch N2?

    Just going to post my LW, which was most of the ISO on Helz, which ended in a townread:

    I was a Citizen. If I have flipped as *anything* else, that is the role of someone I was bound to, and we don't have to worry about CA anymore. I have never received night feedback.

    Spoiler : Post Summary on Helz :
    39 - Opening post; encourages switcher to not act, tells BD to be cautious, expects at least one investigative town role and Butler-peeks me.
    43 - fluff
    46 - says switcher should work with town because town is more likely to win and third-party wincon is very unlikely
    58 - is okay with my plan for switcher to act N1; wants switcher "mitigated" regardless; notes we could use switcher to eliminate a toxic player. Says he forgot LWs were a thing and that N0 peek reveals are standard on other sites
    59 - says it's best if the Switcher reveals today so a scientist could verify them
    66 - advocates not yeeting a switcher that works with town, and plans to get rid of whoever switcher switches to, regardless of when that happens.
    85 - doesn't think it matters if switcher becomes triad, as they still have an incentive to yeet the switcher
    91 - votes Martin for "voting [Renegade] while calling them TPR"
    94 - asks Frinckles if he's the switcher, says he doesn't think Frinckles' statements come from a town perspective
    95 - "Lol. The Mind meld is real~" (to me)
    118 - Says he's not butler, and peeked me with a random number. Includes WIFOM that maybe he is butler
    139 - asks if anyone else is getting scum pings from Frinckles
    *151 - admits he doesn't yet know Frinckles' meta; says a previous post of Frinckles felt like triad team-signaling, (NOTE TO SELF: Check this post out; TriadHelz might not want to out legitimate signaling) and that many of Frinckles' posts come from a non-town perspective. Says he asked if Frinckles is Switcher because Frinckles was avoiding the subject of Switchers.
    154 - "Alignment tells are not a thing in this game. Traid don't know their team mates." (in response to Renegade pointing out Martin's unvoting of Renegade happened after Frinckle's unvoting)
    *219 - the ISO on Frinckles that accuses him of being Switcher; no vote
    235 - says his focus right then was on Switcher over triad because of trouble of scumhunting through alignment changes
    *236 - explains that SwitcherFrinckles could be signaling Triad because he doesn't know what team he'll be on tomorrow
    240 - admits the ISO was poorly formatted and written quickly
    259 - fluff

    -----Day 2 Start-----
    *752 - thinks D1 yeet was scum-driven, saw town perspective in Unknown, townreads yzb for "constant original points," especially post 418, (NOTE TO SELF: what post is that?) townreads me but didn't like my participation in the Oberon train, townread bakermir for expressing a lack of confidence in their reads and "pushing against chaos", townleans Martin based on his roleclaim and supposed uninformed perspective as evidenced by post 633, (NOTE TO SELF: what post is that?) mild town-lean on DM for "consistent" scumhunting that Helz disagrees with, doesn't know how to read Renegade, admits he overstated his "certainty" on Frinckles but still finds Frinckles suspicious for being on the Oberon train, scumlean on DW for pushing Oberon while possibly believing Oberon's claim, thinks Naz is inexperienced scum, believes in pressuring FrostByte for participation
    753 - Says he really would have worked with a switcher who came out D1, but advocates D1's switcher to come out and reveal the new switcher.
    754 - accuses FrostByte of being "semiconscious" about yeeting Oberon
    755 - Self Conscious*
    756 - Thinks DW is worth a second look; "big townie points for anyone who is willing to come forward and voice that they were switcher yesterday."
    757 - asks DW for his read on me
    762 - asks FB for his reads in response to FB's defense of his low participation
    763 - votes FB for "pressure"
    766 - tells FB he cares about content, not number of posts
    768 - quotes Unknown's scumlean on FrostByte as a reason FB should contribute more
    770 - "I promise I have read the entire thread at least 3 times."
    774 - clarifies that he wants FB to form an analyzable opinion, not just shallow reads
    *776 - Asks Naz for her thoughts now that she should have caught up, thinks naz is "on the radar with MattZed, Unknown and myself. I personally consider you a very viable D2 lynch as of days start."
    *778 - says Naz would die N2 if Helz was a vig
    782 - insists on getting an original thought out of FB
    786 - literally links FB to Helz' scumhunting guide
    790 - ends the FB pressure with "I do not understand why you made it such a massive issue to simply give thoughts on other players but it is what it is. "
    792 - Makes very clear that what he wants out of FB with final word of "Please give me more of your thoughts on other players"
    *849 - Asks Martin for who he bussed thinking that the DH was likely locked down
    853 - says Frinckles checking DM is "not possible for a few reasons," and is interested to hear more from Frinckles/DM
    1131 - doesn't think the DH targeted Frinckles because of how widely scumread he was (and thus a "viable mislynch") and how his claimed role is useful to triad, asks naz to clarify if they're detective or lookout, says our optimal play is to yeet DM or DW.
    *1134 - doesn't see it as possible for Frinckles to be lying about seeing DM as Switcher UNLESS Frinckles was a DH who got blocked, although Helz doubts this setup wouldn't have a scientist
    1139 - reinforces that Frinckles "is extremely likely town" and advocates sorting through DW and DM
    1143 - speculates that DM was switcher and stole a triad role from DW
    *1148 - thinks DW is the correct one to yeet first, and isn't sure risks of keeping switcher alive are worth it at this point
    1152 - Thinks the only reason a DH would shoot Frinckles is to avoid crossfire, says DW and DM were both scummy before night actions incriminated them
    *1157 - says Naz shouldn't be considered as a yeet until mid/late game because town naz would likely die soon
    1159 - says the evidence points to DM being switcher, Frinckles being scientist, Naz being an investigating role, and a Locksmith exists. Thinks Martin being BD is also reasonable, and suspects that there aren't any crazy gambits going on
    1164 - speculated a corrupted citizen got shot N1; doesn't think Frinckles was actually the N1 target
    *1173 - again says scientist claim is a bad target because the role helps triad too, but concedes attacking a BD claim N1 makes sense because of talk of BDs doing nothing D1, or that a kill on someone widely townread makes the most sense
    1176 - agrees with me (I think about Frinckles being scummy) but doesn't see how he could be fakeclaiming scientist
    1183 - doubles down that shooting a BD makes sense because a BD isn't any more likely to swap themselves than anyone else
    *1186 - says he was waiting for someone to mention the no-kill option, in response to Unknown bringing it up; says it would have been his play as DH to avoid crossfire and possibly frame someone (NOTE: in 1188, Frinckles claims to have mentioned it twice)
    1191 - in response to 1188, says he's playing this game "loose" and asks how Frinckles feels about Renegade
    *1198 - doubles down on 1186 saying that an escort claiming after a no-kill night outs a TPR and could drive TvTs
    1264 - says he "called it" on DW claiming to be the new switcher and formerly triad
    1270 - advocates yeeting the switcher today and then having the outed triad for tomorrow
    *1279 - votes DW, advocating it as "towns best play" and not wanting to get swapped "to Triad"
    1313 - says he believes DW's claim to being former triad; says DM could be a "vigi happy meal or our D3 lynch"
    *1330 - thinks not ending D2 to hear opinions on DW would be a waste of time because Triad doesn't want to keep Switcher alive
    1331 - advocates holding off massclaim for now because we can't use it to yeet yet; "just helps the Dragon Head pick his targets."
    *1338 - in response to baker, doesn't see point in massclaiming as info isn't important until D4 unless we have a vig, and it's still bad if we do have a vig because of a living witch
    *1354 - says we could have cits reveal as part of mechanical solving while not giving away TPRs, but also advocates for just scum hunting
    1355 - reinforces that cit claims would force DH to kill cits or risk targeting his own team
    *1357 - thinks I was potentially locksmith because DW claims to have witched me onto Martin (NOTE TO SELF: what post did Auwt clarify DW couldn't perform an action?)
    1382 - fluff
    1400 - fluff
    1405 - asks what Renegade thinks DM will flip?
    1418 - says he has the setup on in a separate tab and constantly goes to it when he has questions;
    1450 - fluff
    1451 - fluff
    1452 - accuses Renegade of having "potential Triad priorities" for casting shade on DW's claim that DM is triad. Helz also thinks there's a greater "emotional tone" to the DM defense
    1454 - asks Naz why she targeted DM N1
    *1456 - posts role speculation, generally feeling good about small number of claims scum can make
    1458 - Further comments on current claims being defensible
    1460 - says his PoE is among Baker/FrostByte/Renegade
    *1470 - again says there isn't harm in citizens claiming today
    1471 - tells naz D2 start is post 710
    1474 - says we know Martin or Frinckles were targeted N1, and thus Martin was likely locked down, which a moulder wouldn't want to do, so we should believe there's a locksmith
    1479 - doesn't like naz voting Unknown; votes DW
    1482 - is okay with a hammer now given "chat patterns yesterday"
    *1501 - decided not to post thoughts on what a CA would do N1 "for reasons"
    1504 - tells baker his PoE that includes baker is not in any particular order
    *1506 - explains his PoE as being being about Baker/BF/Ren/Naz/Unknown/Yzb, but excluing Naz until lategame and excluding Unknown/yzb for being widely townread
    *1514 - Gives same reasoning as in 1506 for his PoE, but adds that he claims Butler
    *1519 - thinks there's a locksmith, not moulder, because I was supposedly witched onto Martin; he's surprised no one called him out for not thinking I was DH
    1532 - says he revealed his role today because it was otherwise impossible to explain his strong townread on me
    1534 - reiterates that I can't be triad unless Helz is aswell
    1537 - states he's confused at bakermir's interpretation of Helz' mixed read on him
    1541 - states again he revealed to help everyone with PoE
    1547 - states his PoE is not at all based on individual reads of players
    1550 - fluff
    1551 - asks Martin if there's anything he'd like to add before EoD
    1571 - fluff
    1578 - affirms that he didn't put me on the top of his townlist because he wanted it to appear to come from a read; notes I called him out on it twice

    -----Day 3 Start-----
    1601 - In response to Unknown, reiterates that he's a Butler with me as his confirmed town, and that he was never switched
    1607 - says today should be easy because "we have a scum in the bag already." says he's thinking if a massclaim is better today or tomorrow to help break through the PoE
    1610 - after Unknown claims Helz is not Butler, Helz reinforces that he is hardclaiming butler
    *1618 - tells Unknown he should reveal very soon if he's doing a gambit
    *1662 - says he could see TriadUnknown claiming to get Helz yeeted to save DM. Asks why Unknown didn't reveal later, especially after a detective might have provided more incriminating evidence
    1669 - thinks the TriadUnknown strategy in 1662 isn't actually that bad because it can set up a Helz yeet For D4 to put triad 3v3 in D5.
    1681 - says he won't push Unknown today, but is focusing on what happens tomorrow; is still unsure why Unknown didn't wait for Naz
    1690 - asks Frinckles for some "follow the Frinckles" after I already asked for some; says Helz can't do it himself with Unknown claiming
    1720 - says TriadUnknown fakeclaiming Butler makes sense as a high-level scum play of setting a trap: building the case first before pushing
    1732 - asks for Martin's thoughts on yzb/Unknown
    *1751 - explains to Unknown that claiming early gives an out to triads giving fake investigative feedback, and that he personally would only do that as scum; says he considers it possible to have 2 butlers; says he's going to re-read Unknown's posts before asking questions

    -----End of page 36, which is all the summary I have time/energy for---


    I think Helz is town. I went through his posts, testing whether a town motivation and/or a triad motivation make sense. There are several that don't make much sense for a triad:
    1. Promoting Frinckles as being basically confirmed
    2. Suggesting that DM took a triad role from DW (as opposed to giving him an out),
    3. Revealing on D2 after I had suggested he really was my butler (he could very easily have come up with a convenient role later if he were scum; the only reason I could see him claiming Butler as scum is if he thinks I'm scum and VERY bad at hiding it, but I don't see this in his posts, and I really don't think I'm looking scummy this game)
    4. Pushing low-post FB into contributing more, but without casting shade on him

    Helz has been pushing town in a productive direction, and the two yeets that he was definitely around for and supported, DW and DM, were both scum.

    I am mildly worried how it seems he keeps missing key details about the setup: not knowing we have LWs, not knowing Locksmith isn't also a roleblocker, not knowing it's plurality yeet. (and thus no need to hammer DM)

    I used to be suspicious of his initial peek, but I'm not anymore. If he had successfully encouraged *everyone* to give a peek, it wouldn't be so useful to scum: it's just telling them who's not butler, as opposed to telling them who's not town. It seems MUCH more consistent with Helz' forgetfulness/carelessness.

    To be clear, I'm not 100% here. Helz very well could have thrown DM under the bus realizing DM couldn't be saved and that if triad kills a town N3 he only needs one misyeet and another town night kill to go to 3v3. I'm a little worried he didn't do so much player analysis in the posts I was able to summarize, instead relying more on PoE. But my memory says he was much more into an analysis mood at the end of D3. I wish I had time to analyze those posts.

    I think I've said everything I could possibly want to say here. Good luck, everyone. Thanks for making my first game in 3 years entertaining.

    Let me leave you with one last thought: When in doubt, follow Frinckles
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  11. #2361

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Yeah naz is pretty lock town from this. Unless it's a triad big balls play getting rid of switcher early but that would be an oberon level bad move and I don't see that coming from naz
    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    So I honestly do not see us loosing this game. BD can bus back onto DH and Doc/BG in play makes nightkills a minefield in a game with a very small PoE.

    I think Frinckles and Naz pretty much broke the game N1. Kinda feel sorry for the Triad. They didn't stand a chance with this lineup.
    Actually Renegade and I

    can just be invulnerable together LOL

    @Renegade locks my house

    and I bus him every night
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  13. #2363

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    @MartinGG99

    The only real risk I saw with your plan is that it ties up PR's leaving the DH open to kill. Short of a Town Naz tracking peek we could just about kiss Frinckles goodbye with almost certainty. But with Frost BG/Doc claim thats no longer possible forcing the kill onto Me, Matt or Renegade.

    I feel this is acceptable..
    What, were you expecting PR's to NOT die when there's 2 citizens in the entire fucking game?

    Sorry for my language, but this isn't the game to be picky with PR's when we can have the game locked-down regardless if the DH can kill those PR's.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  14. #2364

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Annnnnnndddd Renegade is pretty much lock scum >.>

    Not to beat a dead horse but I get warm fuzzy feelings when my reads get confirmed~
    Helz

    I've said I can confirm Renegade tonight so long as we eliminate the DH

    if he's Moulder then I can order him to lock my house tonight

    and I switch myself with him

    if he's Moulder, then with DH dead he will become the next DH, unable to lock my house

    we can mechanically confirm him with the DH dying
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  17. #2367

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    My main thought:

    FrostByte HAS to be scum at this point for not mentioning that he was RB'd right?
    he can only be triad random which makes Renegade town and u and helz scum lol
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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  21. #2371

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    he can only be triad random which makes Renegade town and u and helz scum lol
    False.



    Unkown is proven to be the DH as a result of all the mechanical knowledge in this game so far. Everyone else has been proven to be Not-DH.

    Also you realize you just suggested no one else is Citizen but Bakermir, right?

    looooolllll
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  22. #2372

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Before I go-

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    We all get those warm feelings I think. Russel Brand did a bit about the warm clever feelings that people get when they understand something clever in his Messiah standup routine and it's so true lmfao
    That guy is a trip. I have studied a lot of the concepts he works with. Real genius

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    What, were you expecting PR's to NOT die when there's 2 citizens in the entire fucking game?

    Sorry for my language, but this isn't the game to be picky with PR's when we can have the game locked-down regardless if the DH can kill those PR's.
    I was more saying the PR's provide Wifom making the DH kills dangerous. The lack of that frees him up.

    It also occurred to me that we know who the DH is. One thing you may want to discuss is if there is a potential higher value in lynching Renegade first because kills can be redirected onto Unknown. With such a small PoE it also forces the DH's targets onto very few players to give his teammates any chance of winning greatly increasing the chance of bumping into a bodyguard/doc or getting the kill redirected back onto him.

    Just a thought : P
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  23. #2373

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    If FrostByte is town, then he's SOME unclaimed TPR. I'm Cit, and then we'd have 3 TPRs left:
    Frinckles almost certainly is a TPR
    At least one of Renegade/Naz is TPR because they both have evidence they're not CA/DH
    If you believe Martin's claim (disclosure: I don't),

    That makes Helz and Unknown BOTH scum, and last triad is one of Renegade/Naz.

    That seems absurd, doesn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  26. #2376

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Unkown is proven to be the DH as a result of all the mechanical knowledge in this game so far. Everyone else has been proven to be Not-DH.

    Also you realize you just suggested no one else is Citizen but Bakermir, right?

    looooolllll
    How?

    You're super confident in your mechanical solve, considering the amount of fucky night actions shit that's possible, and considering the fact that scum is gonna know scum is lying and have a clearer picture of the game, given that everyone has claimed now
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  27. #2377

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Before I go-



    That guy is a trip. I have studied a lot of the concepts he works with. Real genius



    I was more saying the PR's provide Wifom making the DH kills dangerous. The lack of that frees him up.

    It also occurred to me that we know who the DH is. One thing you may want to discuss is if there is a potential higher value in lynching Renegade first because kills can be redirected onto Unknown. With such a small PoE it also forces the DH's targets onto very few players to give his teammates any chance of winning greatly increasing the chance of bumping into a bodyguard/doc or getting the kill redirected back onto him.

    Just a thought : P
    Yeah if you're right

    buuuuuuttt

    why prefer a night-kill when you can go for the day-kill?

    I can 100% confirm Renegade tonight if we day-kill the DH today on D4
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  31. #2381

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Matt is basically clear. He's the only other citizen claim
    My fellow town with no good night actions, let us examine the situation:

    There are 3 more town, and 3 more scum.

    If there is an operator, then both Renegade and Naz are town because triad randoms are used up. Pick your favorite last town in Martin/Helz/Unknown/FrostByte. I know you'd pick Martin, but I'd pick Helz.

    If there is no operator, then AT LEAST one of Renegade/Naz is town, and they can't be DH from their credible claims Helz can't be DH because of RB last night. FrostByte can't be DH because of an N2 kill. This leaves Unknown or Martin as DH.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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  33. #2383

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Also I've calculated before in a past post that even if the DH got a night-kill every night

    so long as town doesn't trip up the CA bond

    then its just auto town win

    gg
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    If CA gets us to miseliminate one time, that's 4v4....

    As long as we avoid a CA and/or miselimination, or one of the protectives (Me and Renegade) block just ONE town kill,

    the we basically win if my reasoning has been correct so far

    The reasoning I came up with to calculate that all we need to do is avoid a miselimination or block a town kill

    in order to to just automatically win still applies here

    except with the solve I just got within the last hour

    there is no chance for miselimination unless we trigger the CA bond
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  38. #2388

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Isn't is plausible that FB is CA?
    No I would've got feedback on both people he visited last night
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Unless I've missed it, I think it's time for you to roleclaim and tell us about what you did last night.
    He did lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  40. #2390

  41. #2391

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I think we have to yeet unknown today
    His butler claim was a scam
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  42. #2392

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    How am I confirmed a triad role when I'm not triad? I guess I'm going to have to read more to see what crazy logic you guys are following
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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  47. #2397

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I think we lynch you here tbh
    Honestly with my solve

    I don't really care if we eliminate Frostbyte or Unkown first

    buuuuut the thing is I can't prove to Helz that Renegade is town Locksmith since the DH won't die today (thus keeping the current triad PR as a PR; meaning Helz will still tinfoil Moulder)

    and with the days comming we may NEED every single town vote in order to override the triad if they unify
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    @Auwt , if one of a CA's targets is locked down, do they still show up as visiting the other?
    If CA is targeting at least 1 player being locked down, then CA's night action is canceled.
    So CA would appear to be visiting no one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies

    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history

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    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Honestly with my solve

    I don't really care if we eliminate Frostbyte or Unkown first

    buuuuut the thing is I can't prove to Helz that Renegade is town Locksmith since the DH won't die today (thus keeping the current triad PR as a PR; meaning Helz will still tinfoil Moulder)

    and with the days comming we may NEED every single town vote in order to override the triad if they unify
    I'm gonna say the same thing I've been saying all game - mechanical solves are gonna be shit in this setup
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