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  1. #851

  2. #852

  3. #853

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    I think Frinckles is suggesting he checked Dark Magician and found that he switched his role.
    That is not possible for a few reasons; but he does have my attention. Between whatever he is up to and Martins feedback things are looking good though.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  4. #854

  5. #855

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Why did you say this?
    Is that not obvious?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  6. #856

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I donít like how this is playing out for a few reasons but Iím going to sit and wait for now on it until Frinckles finishes what heís doing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  7. #857

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Helz v Frostbit smells like TvT to me.
    I actually agree with some of this but Iíd like to hear your reasoning behind it. Do you think they were both justified in their arguments against each other?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  8. #858

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Thoughts on Mattzed's and Unknown's effort posts (and a few swift ISO searches):

    I'll accept the reasons given on Helz and Bakermir by Unkown.

    I think deathworlds may need more looking at based on the reasons given, though idk if I should jump to the conclusion that he's possibly scummy since I wasn't paying attention to him much during that EoD.

    Frinckles is one of the players I have planned on reviewing today, though I'm not completely convinced there would be intentional triad signaling this game. I think with knowing some of the players on the FM forum here, any signaling may go unnoticed or be unreliable, and at worst put someone in deep trouble.

    I'll sheep the reasons on DM by both Mattzed and Unkown, though I would like to investigate him on my own initiative at some point just like on Deathworlds.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  9. #859

  10. #860

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    1)

    I never said I wanted discussion to stop. Here's the post:



    In fact, I believe saying "I'm a bit skeptical about all of this talk" is wording that tends to promote further discussion, rather than being against discussion.
    @MartinGG99 Can you explain this? Looks to me like you felt the need to defend yourself and then fell flat on your face doing so. How is "I'm a bit skeptical of all this talk" promoting discussion about it? I don't understand.
    FMPOV, when someone says "I'm a bit skeptical of all this talk" shows both a hesitancy to accept reasons but also a possibility that they may be persuaded through discussion.

    If you strongly believed in X fact, and someone said "I'm a bit skeptical of X fact claims", wouldn't you feel the urge to try and persuade them that X fact is correct?

    I don't see how such a statement could shut down or dissuade conversation unless it was being misinterpreted.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  11. #861

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    The way I read it the first time led me to believe there was a reason you didnít want to talk about it. That being said I understand how you meant it to be taken after having pointed it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  12. #862

  13. #863

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    It is, so why did you feel the need to say it?
    Itís actually a personal note for me and for anyone else who needed to make the connection.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  14. #864

  15. #865

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    <óóó- mecwhile we wait for shit to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  16. #866

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    I don't like anything about this. Especially since he talks about the hammer vote as if day was about to end which wasn't even close....
    Hmmm. I will look into it more later but I think the first quote there is justified.

    At the time of that post, recently 3 people voted Oberon within the span of 30 posts (like #559-#589)

    In fact, deathworld's 6th post was in the middle of that (At #580, quoted below), 20 minutes after his first post:

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    This statement makes me uncomfortable, maybe because I'm not a part of it, granted I did just show up.
    But also because it feels forced
    I could see that impression being given to anyone that its possible someone is getting hammered regardless of what they do, with a vote every 10ish posts lol.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  17. #867

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    ???????
    was thinking exactly the same thing
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  18. #868

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Skimming this on my phone, and have one important question for @Auwt : If a scientist checks someone on the night they BECOME Switcher, what feedback will they get?

    Unvoting until I get an answer.

    -unvote
    Important information for everyone.
    In order not to break the game,

    If a Scientist visits someone on the night they become Switcher (for the first time), the night feedback would look as the following :
    "Your target has been Switcher once"

    MEANING, that the action of swapping role is visible throughout the OoO, but the roles only change at the last position of it.
    Therefore, every Investigative role could eventually spot a move from a Switcher.

    The same goes for the Corrupted Assessor (their action is visible BEFORE they actually act).

    @bakermir
    @Helz
    @Dark Magician
    @MartinGG99
    @FrostByte
    @Frinckles
    @deathworlds
    @yzb25
    @Unknown1234
    @naz
    @MattZed
    @Renegade
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies

    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history

  19. #869

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    DM isn't going to budge. Anyway I found out he's been the switcher one time. Which, if im reading the role correctly means that he is the Switcher, because the original Switcher starts their tally at one?

    So he was triad who is now switcher
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  20. #870

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    DM isn't going to budge. Anyway I found out he's been the switcher one time. Which, if im reading the role correctly means that he is the Switcher, because the original Switcher starts their tally at one?

    So he was triad who is now switcher
    no he is either switcher now and/or was switcher yesterday according to your feedback and the clarification Auwt just gave
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  21. #871

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    DM isn't going to budge. Anyway I found out he's been the switcher one time. Which, if im reading the role correctly means that he is the Switcher, because the original Switcher starts their tally at one?

    So he was triad who is now switcher
    I'm pretty sure Auwt's most recent post says, if you're being truthful, that the person you checked either started as switcher or became such last night.

    So where are you getting triad, and why did he BECOME switcher? (as opposed to starting)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  22. #872

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I want to know what made you check Dark Magician
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  23. #873

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I'm pretty sure Auwt's most recent post says, if you're being truthful, that the person you checked either started as switcher or became such last night.

    So where are you getting triad, and why did he BECOME switcher? (as opposed to starting)
    I dunno, mostly from how he's acted this game. He definitely wasn't towny yesterday lol
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  24. #874

  25. #875

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I'm pretty sure Auwt's most recent post says, if you're being truthful, that the person you checked either started as switcher or became such last night.

    So where are you getting triad, and why did he BECOME switcher? (as opposed to starting)
    Also I thought the original switcher started his count at one. I'll recheck the setup tho
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

  26. #876

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Important information for everyone.
    In order not to break the game,

    If a Scientist visits someone on the night they become Switcher (for the first time), the night feedback would look as the following :
    "Your target has been Switcher once"

    MEANING, that the action of swapping role is visible throughout the OoO, but the roles only change at the last position of it.
    Therefore, every Investigative role could eventually spot a move from a Switcher.

    The same goes for the Corrupted Assessor (their action is visible BEFORE they actually act).

    @bakermir
    @Helz
    @Dark Magician
    @MartinGG99
    @FrostByte
    @Frinckles
    @deathworlds
    @yzb25
    @Unknown1234
    @naz
    @MattZed
    @Renegade
    Good fucking catch, Auwt.
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    READ THIS THREAD RIGHT NAO

  27. #877

  28. #878

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    had a hunch, simple as that
    well, now the tension has been painfully beaten to death with a shovel, I'd like a response to the questions I asked in my vote post. I've been extremely patient.

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    -vote Frinckles




    I want an explanation on what the deeper meaning behind the friends shitposting was and and what you felt you gleaned from others with it. I want to hear your post-mortem thoughts of the Oberon train. You stated several times you felt the triads were the ones who WEREN'T on the train.

    Were there any exceptions to this? Why did you feel that way. Of the two trains, was one of the trains more / less scummy than the other?

    ty
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  29. #879

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    well, now the tension has been painfully beaten to death with a shovel, I'd like a response to the questions I asked in my vote post. I've been extremely patient.
    First time I've read that sorry. Gimme one sec I'm on my phone atm
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  30. #880

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    DM isn't going to budge. Anyway I found out he's been the switcher one time. Which, if im reading the role correctly means that he is the Switcher, because the original Switcher starts their tally at one?

    So he was triad who is now switcher
    he was switcher yesterday according to OoO and your check

  31. #881

  32. #882

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I thought the count was for the individual person and not the role overall, unless Iím completely misunderstanding it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  33. #883

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    @Auwt I dont know why it's in my head but does the original switcher start their count at 1 or 0
    As they need to be at 3 different times, the starting Switcher is already set as 1.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies

    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history

  34. #884

  35. #885

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    he was switcher yesterday according to OoO and your check
    fyi, Auwt just clarified that despite what the OoO suggests, ppl who just became switchers are included in the scientist count.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  36. #886

  37. #887

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Ok sassy. Hope you contribute more to day 2 than day 1, and certainly more than just one line responses.
    bruh
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  38. #888

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    fyi, Auwt just clarified that despite what the OoO suggests, ppl who just became switchers are included in the scientist count.
    So if the scientist claim is true, DM was either switcher yesterday or he's switcher today
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    READ THIS THREAD RIGHT NAO

  39. #889

  40. #890

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    So if the scientist claim is true, DM was either switcher yesterday or he's switcher today
    exactly, or both
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  41. #891

  42. #892

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    tbh I'm looking at Helz vs Frostbyte on pg 16 as ????????????? (tvt?)

    I'm leaning on them being town.

    I do 50 posts per page view
    Ya I was getting that vibe from the beginning of that but he was pissing me off so I got stubborn
    FMX: fm Kevinpowers - Citizen (WIN)
    READ THIS THREAD RIGHT NAO

  43. #893

  44. #894

  45. #895

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    fyi, Auwt just clarified that despite what the OoO suggests, ppl who just became switchers are included in the scientist count.
    thats not what I understand from the OoO.

    switcher role swap happens last. switchers other actions are before invest actions so invests can still track them but scientist only knows the amount of someone being switcher, in this case DM was switcher once and that is only possible n0-d1 because scientist checked them on n1

  46. #896

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Fuck it, to be more clear:

    1) DM thought voting Oberon a switcher hard claim was nonsense.
    2) Unknown showed DM more of Oberon's posts for context.
    3) DM changed his mind and hopped on the train
    4) Oberon claimed BD
    5) DM unvoted
    6) Martin claimed BD
    7) DM voted Oberon

    Matt's version of events misses 2-5.
    Giving Yzb more town-points for context analysis.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  47. #897

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Auwt just clarified it and pinged you. If the host tells you, itís probably true lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  48. #898

  49. #899

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I need to head off. Not yet sure what to think of the Frinckles-DM interaction, but I'm quite surprised no one is admitting to being the Switcher N1.

    Also, @Helz , I think you're misreading how locks work.
    switcher doesn't have to change roles, they can act as bus driver *coughMartincough*
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  50. #900

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    thats not what I understand from the OoO.

    switcher role swap happens last. switchers other actions are before invest actions so invests can still track them but scientist only knows the amount of someone being switcher, in this case DM was switcher once and that is only possible n0-d1 because scientist checked them on n1
    Nor was it what I understood from the OoO, but in practice the OoO is an informal, ambiguous way of representing the grid of priorities roles take over one-another, dressed up as something more logical. For example, lookout can go in all sorts of places in the OoO, but people informally understand the lookout sees ppl who visit their target irrespective of whether they come before the lookout or after. The same is true of the detective.

    But that's besides the point - The OoO is misleading in this case, hence why Auwt stepped in to clarify.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

 

 

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