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  1. #2851

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Wow. I did not have Helz pinged as triad at all.

    I knew it was me + Unkown + FB most likely.

    WOWOWOWOWOW.

    2 FAKE BUTLER CLAIMS.
    That Unknown CC had to be one of the most balls out moves I have seen in a long time. This game was really fucking entertaining at so many points.

    I would also just encourage the town to Surrender. There is no possibility of winning unless a Triad throws right now.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  2. #2852

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    THIS 100% LOLLLL, Helz and I had to be dragged into it.
    Sorry for the pressure brother. I knew you were Triad for certain after N2 when I bound you to Frinckles from your claimed night action but I was pretty sure at the end of D2. I figured if I pushed for your lynch it gave you grace if I got lynched and if I got you lynched it knocked out Frinckles.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  3. #2853

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    How TF did we get that Marino lynch anyway.
    Unknown pulled out some ninja shit there getting the town peg by Matt. I recognized we could win but I didnt have any faith in us pulling it off until the town took a hard turn at the end of the day.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  4. #2854

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    Yeah itís gg

    Well played with the claim Helz
    @naz totally called me out on using it to probe for another Triad. That was 100% what I was doing with Matt.

    You also called me on my giving real scum reads as scum. I had no clue what to do with that other than try to discredit you saying "He is saying I am Triad for pushing to lynch Triad."

    I still can't believe you managed to get out of that lynch yesterday. That was straight up impressive
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  5. #2855

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Sooo... if we are forced to play this out we should lynch Frostbyte.

    @Auwt
    @FrostByte
    @Frinckles
    @Unknown1234
    @naz
    @Renegade

    Helz- CA
    Unknown- DH
    Renegade- Moulder

    Frinckles- Scientist
    Naz- Detective
    Frostbyte- BG/Doc


    Unknown and myself are Mechanically solved with my N2 action confirming Renegade. You guys can surrender or we can play this out but the game is over either way.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  6. #2856

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Not gona lie. I had seeded all kinds of shit thinking the game would flip here and Town would be claiming to be Triad. Was kinda looking forward to hearing people accuse etch other of being town and arguing about how they were scummy.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  7. #2857

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Btw, Only reason game is over is that Doc/BG can not self target is on. So nolynch today then KPN tonight on the Doc, Lynch Naz tomorrow with KPN on Frinckles ends in 3 Triad 0 town with no possible way for town to avoid it.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  8. #2858

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    Yeah @naz this is what I was talking about. Helz got RBed on a night where DH killed someone so it couldn't have been Helz and you "wasted your night action last night", just like you "wasted your night action" the night baker died

    Or you're lying about it because you're scummmmmmmmm
    Renegade just confessed to being scum right after this post lol
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  9. #2859

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    How TF did we get that Marino lynch anyway.
    he ignored all my questions so I was dead set he was scum
    turns out he's just a jackass
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  10. #2860

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Sooo... if we are forced to play this out we should lynch Frostbyte.

    @Auwt
    @FrostByte
    @Frinckles
    @Unknown1234
    @naz
    @Renegade

    Helz- CA
    Unknown- DH
    Renegade- Moulder

    Frinckles- Scientist
    Naz- Detective
    Frostbyte- BG/Doc


    Unknown and myself are Mechanically solved with my N2 action confirming Renegade. You guys can surrender or we can play this out but the game is over either way.
    Why are u pinging me in this smh
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  11. #2861

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Sorry for the pressure brother. I knew you were Triad for certain after N2 when I bound you to Frinckles from your claimed night action but I was pretty sure at the end of D2. I figured if I pushed for your lynch it gave you grace if I got lynched and if I got you lynched it knocked out Frinckles.
    No worries. We all were operating on less than 100% of information.

    I seriously thought you were Butler though.

  12. #2862

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Btw, Only reason game is over is that Doc/BG can not self target is on. So nolynch today then KPN tonight on the Doc, Lynch Naz tomorrow with KPN on Frinckles ends in 3 Triad 0 town with no possible way for town to avoid it.
    Yeah. I think game is over "mechanically".

  13. #2863

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    Why are u pinging me in this smh
    Figured you might need to message the host and say 'We surrender to the almighty Triad' if he didn't agree the game was an impossible win for town : P

    Your night actions this game were great btw.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

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  15. #2865

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Yeah. I think game is over "mechanically".
    You, Me, or Unknown literally needs to throw the game to change the outcome. The town can not even pretend to be scum to flip the game the way it went.

    Kinda funny how being 'confirmed town' is a determent in this game.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

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  19. #2869

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I guess it's game. No matter what's going happen.
    Coinflips won't do anything, at best for town, they win D5 coinflip, but lose a member to a new DH, making the game 2v2.
    Even if Town wins the next coinflip, the last triad member could still kill, making it a 1v1 Triad vs Town tie, thus Triad Victory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    I havnt seen a mafiaz member in a long time. I think they're dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  20. #2870

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  21. #2871

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    He was caught by 2 tprs, lol.
    Yeah, DM and DW had bad D1 play. They did not get that much attention by bad luck.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

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  24. #2874

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    I guess it's game. No matter what's going happen.
    Coinflips won't do anything, at best for town, they win D5 coinflip, but lose a member to a new DH, making the game 2v2.
    Even if Town wins the next coinflip, the last triad member could still kill, making it a 1v1 Triad vs Town tie, thus Triad Victory.
    Gg

    -vote Unknown
    for MVP with those killer night picks (Pun intended) and somehow coming out on top in Martin vs Unknown D4.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  25. #2875

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Iíll answer questions in a bit Iím picking up my new phone right now because apparently you have to make fifteen minute appointments and canít be early
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

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  27. #2877

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    THE FOOLING PARTY

    THE GAME HAS COME TO AN END !

    TRIAD HAS WON.

    Congratulations to :

    @Helz
    @Dark Magician
    @Unknown1234
    @Renegade

    Honorable mention to :

    @deathworlds

    I hope you all liked this game (somehow), I'm sorry for the diverse informations that were lacking on the setup thread.
    I just had a lot of fun hosting this, and having great players like all of you.
    Also wanna point out that town also managed to do a great job, taking down the Switcher+Triad combo very early on !

    Thanks a lot to all of you guys !

    @Oberon
    @deathworlds
    @bakermir
    @Dark Magician
    @yzb25
    @MartinGG99
    @MattZed
    @Helz
    @Unknown1234
    @Renegade
    @FrostByte
    @Frinckles
    @naz

    Quick notes, I will be hosting the next ladder queue right after this one.
    Also, shout out to Dark Magician's game that will probably be played at the same time !
    I will also post the role list.
    Last edited by Auwt; November 23rd, 2020 at 03:00 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    I havnt seen a mafiaz member in a long time. I think they're dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  28. #2878

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    ty for hosting
    gg

    tfw right but can't convince town
    oh well
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

  29. #2879

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    bakermir - Citizen

    Unknown - Dragon Head

    Frinckles - Town Random (Scientist)

    deathworlds - Triad Random (Sorcerer)

    MattZed - Citizen

    Renegade - Triad Random (Moulder)

    naz - Town Random (Inspector)

    Oberon - Town Random (Bus Driver)

    FrostByte - Town Random (War Surgeon)

    MartinGG99 - Bus Driver

    Helz - Corrupted Assessor

    Dark Magician - Switcher

    yzb25 - Town Random (Shopkeeper)
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    I havnt seen a mafiaz member in a long time. I think they're dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  30. #2880

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I have to say though, This was a really cool setup.

    I love games where as scum you have to balance how townread you are. Flat out going powerwolf ftw just gets old and this game really put a spin on things.
    I found it interesting how every one of the towns night actions required the scum to act in order to matter. There was a weird situation there where I feel like scum would have had a huge advantage in no-action if they were informed. The lack of being informed balanced that out in a way I have never seen in a game before which made for a very unique experience. I still wonder how the game would have gone if the Triad just decided not to act and win through day chat.
    I also like the idea of games being able to be inverted. It would be super fucking cool if a Town was able to win after loosing majority to wolves by pretending to be a wolf.
    Including citizen as a potential for Town Randoms was a small but critical detail so props on whoever recognized that up front.
    If this game is played again scum should claim citizen to prevent the PoE from confirming a town like what happened here with Matt. I poked at that a good bit but our team comp didn't allow for that play to happen.

    All in all I was impressed at how balanced such a concept setup was. I had a lot of fun and felt like the level of play on this site has gone up quite a bit from when I use to play here years ago. It was also really cool to see so many familiar faces again.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  31. #2881

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Here is the discord if you are curious :

    https://discord.gg/eTww9hZQ
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    I havnt seen a mafiaz member in a long time. I think they're dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  32. #2882

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Oh yeah, And the Corrupt Assessor may be the favorite role I have ever played. I spent quite a bit of time considering if I wanted to go for a double town kill or link it to a Triad to both allow for me to investigate a Triads role as well as tie a Town to them for a kill on a good lynch. The implications of that role's abilities were really cool and also a first for me to experience.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  33. #2883

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    GG everyone! Thanks for a fun first game back in 3.5 years.

    I think we can all admit I was rusty. I'd like to take this opportunity to claim town LVP (Least Valuable Player). There are errors I made that I think could be avoided in the future without having to be psychic.

    Now, I was always going to be skeptical of Martin's N1 BD action. This is a setup where town can only afford ONE misyeet unless a night kill hits a scum. (allowing town to afford 3 misyeets, which is more typical in a 13P game) It still makes no sense to me why he would switch himself with one of his townreads. (and I don't get the "we should do it by consensus" either: After Oberon died, the other players, from Martin's perspective, were 6 town and 5 scum. Not exactly a group to trust)

    So what could have guided me to not misyeet Martin? A few things:
    1. I was pegging Martin as a low-effort scum: he spent a lot of time townreading people and not going after anyone, much like a complacent blend-into-the-wall kind of scum. This would be quite incompatible with the balls-of-steel DH Martin that CC's Oberon to kill a powerful town role and prevent Oberon from being confirmed town. I can't have both version of DH Martin: calculated power play scum and passive scum.

    In the future, since effort is NAI, I think I'll scumhunt in two stages: First, decide if a person is high-effort or low-effort and THEN decide if they're town/scum in this framework.

    2. I gave Unknown the first chance to defend himself, instead of letting them both defend themselves simultaneously. We only had 48 hour days, and we didn't have time to trial two people. Had I asked Martin to make a defense of himself and a case on Unknown FROM THE MOMENT YZB FLIPPED, I think there's a good chance he would have made a case I could believe. By letting Unknown go first, Unknown got to make a case and Martin spent most of the day being complacent in thinking I would believe his BD claim and didn't have a time to dissect Unknown.

    In the future, if there's a "at least one of these two people is MECHANICALLY SCUM" situation, I will ask BOTH of them to defend themselves at once, even if I find one more suspicious.

    3. I didn't share my thoughts enough with my other confirmed town, Frinckles. If I had bee n able to talk him into a back-and-forth on whether it's Martin or Unknown, I may have been guided to the correct decision.

    In the future, I plan to spend more time on soliciting the opinions of confirmed towns instead of trying to carry the game with my scumhunting alone.


    So that's the game. We misyeeted twice and lost. In retrospect, this setup may be scum-favored. I personally would like more informed minority vs. uninformed majority games so I can add vote/flip analysis, but this was a fine experiment. I'm sure Auwt already has thoughts on what he would do differently.

    I don't know when my next game will be, but gg until then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  34. #2884

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Also I must admit that Unknown indeed deserves MVP.

    Winning a 1v1 and not hitting a single Triad team mate at night, it is an outstanding performance imo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by Scvmurderer View Post
    I havnt seen a mafiaz member in a long time. I think they're dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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  37. #2887

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Iím still pissed I got mislynched on d1 🤬
    Dude, that was all you 100%

    Next time seed before you gambit so when your in the hot seat you can point back to your seed to pull you out after you get the reactions
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  38. #2888

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Iím still pissed I got mislynched on d1 🤬
    In hindsight I should've let you live

    Would've added more chaos

    I think I misinterpreted the dangers of the game, thinking that we had to correctly lynch triads

    but in reality the optimal goal is probably to keep the triads guessing as to who their teammates are
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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  40. #2890

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Dude, that was all you 100%

    Next time seed before you gambit so when your in the hot seat you can point back to your seed to pull you out after you get the reactions
    I mean, when your gambit is to literally put yourself up as the lynch its a suicidal play not to have an out set up. I also feel like you should have thought through exactly what information you were trying to gain. You didn't seem to ask questions that would push players to revealing AI reactions. You just kinda claimed and then watched the pressure build on you until you claimed BD and your neck got stretched.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  41. #2891

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    You played really really well bro. I was a little afraid of the crossfire chance. This game was really cool in that we had to stay as a mid range read instead of just pushing for full town cred.

    When did you figure out I was CA?
    It was around when we were arguing day 3 when I suspected you could be triad, You kept using arguments to defend yourself that I was doing at the same time (as triad, so it was going to annoy me if you ended up being town and those arguments somehow worked out for you) but I didn't really know for sure until day 4 came along when you basically let me go. I was suspicious of your role-claim but not enough to deem you triad, just enough to know killing you was a bad idea.

    The amount of times you kept telling me I was scum-reading you for "lynching triad" was quite hilarious though LOL. I will admit that my argument with you on day 3 was definitely my weakest point but I never said anything that extreme.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  42. #2892

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    P.S I had decided as soon as I saw my rolecard I was fake claiming Butler. Helz claiming didn't matter, I was going to reveal as Butler regardless of who claimed that role. That's why it looked genuine because I spent no time reading yzb at all in that game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  43. #2893

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Oh I also wondered if you were avoiding looking at my interaction with yzb because you didn't have an argument for how I was faking it without revealing yourself. Especially since you said a few times that triad was very unlikely to fake a role-claim in advance in defending yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  44. #2894

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Dude, that was all you 100%

    Next time seed before you gambit so when your in the hot seat you can point back to your seed to pull you out after you get the reactions
    Well, one thing I do regret was that I didnít read the reactions I got from players properly. I feel that, having reread the game after I died, there were 3 potential slips (2 of them perspective slips) from the gambit. I would 100% go back in time and do the same thing, but probably crumb it more carefully (I assume thatís what you mean by Ďseedingí), and defo try to look for slips more carefully. In this case it was more that I acted impulsively; I saw everyone talking about the Switcher and decided to claim it to see what would happen. So crumbing was out of the question for me.

    That being said. I donít know why anyone would think a real 3rd party scum would legit hardclaim on d1.

  45. #2895

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    In my opinion, I think anyone could have won MVP between me Helz and Renegade. Aside from role-claims we were definitely top at most of peoples reads (except maybe bakermir, but he was someone I needed to get rid of)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  46. #2896

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I mean, when your gambit is to literally put yourself up as the lynch its a suicidal play not to have an out set up. I also feel like you should have thought through exactly what information you were trying to gain. You didn't seem to ask questions that would push players to revealing AI reactions. You just kinda claimed and then watched the pressure build on you until you claimed BD and your neck got stretched.
    True, youíre absolutely right. I just acted sort of impulsively this time and didnít think through properly.

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    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    P.S I had decided as soon as I saw my rolecard I was fake claiming Butler. Helz claiming didn't matter, I was going to reveal as Butler regardless of who claimed that role. That's why it looked genuine because I spent no time reading yzb at all in that game.
    If I was town that would have legit thrown me off pretty hard. I kinda thought you could be Triad and then your CC confused me. Then when I knew you were Triad D4 I felt like you were totally sunk and didn't want to shade myself by pushing CW for you. I don't think I have had many games where I have had a read flipped on its head twice like that.

    Your night kills were beautiful by the way. I was legit afraid of the Triad KPN and constantly throwing out town strategy that pointed to how scum should play to counter it.
    What does not kill you makes you feel stupid when you wish it would have
    It only makes you stronger if you choose to not be a victim

  50. #2900

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    In my opinion, I think anyone could have won MVP between me Helz and Renegade. Aside from role-claims we were definitely top at most of peoples reads (except maybe bakermir, but he was someone I needed to get rid of)
    No I was obviously scum. I harped way too much on that tiny towncred crumb.

 

 

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