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  2. ISO #2252

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I'm planning to finish Helz' ISO through D2 (I'm on page 29) before EoD, then I can vote if there's a concern there.
    only 40 minutes left until EOD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  3. ISO #2253

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    Or maybe he's asking about how the role he's considering faking works?

    But right now I'm specifically talking about him being DH as an explanation for the failed NK.

    There are only so many DH candidates out there.
    Yes he spawned into the game as DH and <1hr in set about crumbing BD because that's clearly the goto role that he planned to crumb if he got DH in his notes. He had the sincere-sounding question and reaction lined up and everything, and when mag went full retard he snatched the opportunity to exhibit his oscar-tier acting.

    Come on man. You're tinfoiling and you know it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    naz, he's claiming to have been at your house last night and infected you. I know u were drunk but PLEASE try as hard as you can to remember... That burning you felt the next morning when you went pee was from me, not him.

  4. ISO #2254

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Yes he spawned into the game as DH and <1hr in set about crumbing BD because that's clearly the goto role that he planned to crumb if he got DH in his notes. He had the sincere-sounding question and reaction lined up and everything, and when mag went full retard he snatched the opportunity to exhibit his oscar-tier acting.

    Come on man. You're tinfoiling and you know it.
    Martin deserves a scummies if this ends up being true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  5. ISO #2255

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Yes he spawned into the game as DH and <1hr in set about crumbing BD because that's clearly the goto role that he planned to crumb if he got DH in his notes. He had the sincere-sounding question and reaction lined up and everything, and when mag went full retard he snatched the opportunity to exhibit his oscar-tier acting.

    Come on man. You're tinfoiling and you know it.
    This goofy path is a waste of time.

  6. ISO #2256

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I'm not going to finish the ISO in time.

    Spoiler : Post Summaries :
    39 - Opening post; encourages switcher to not act, tells BD to be cautious, expects at least one investigative town roleand Butler-peeks me.
    43 - fluff
    46 - says switcher should work with town because town is more likely to win and third-party wincon is very unlikely
    58 - is okay with my plan for switcher to act N1; wants switcher "mitigated" regardless; notes we could use switcher to eliminate a toxic player. Says he forgot LWs were a thing and that N0 peek reveals are standard on other sites
    59 - says it's best if the Switcher reveals today so a scientist could verify them
    66 - advocates not yeeting a switcher that works with town, and plans to get rid of whoever switcher switches to, regardless of when that happens.
    85 - doesn't think it matters if switcher becomes triad, as they still have an incentive to yeet the switcher
    91 - votes Martin for "voting [Renegade] while calling them TPR"
    94 - asks Frinckles if he's the switcher, says he doesn't think Frinckles' statements come from a town perspective
    95 - "Lol. The Mind meld is real~" (to me)
    118 - Says he's not butler, and peeked me with a random number. Includes WIFOM that maybe he is butler
    139 - asks if anyone else is getting scum pings from Frinckles
    *151 - admits he doesn't yet know Frinckles' meta; says a previous post of Frinckles felt like triad team-signaling, (NOTE TO SELF: Check this post out; TriadHelz might not want to out legitimate signaling) and that many of Frinckles' posts come from a non-town perspective. Says he asked if Frinckles is Switcher because Frinckles was avoiding the subject of Switchers.
    154 - "Alignment tells are not a thing in this game. Traid don't know their team mates." (in response to Renegade pointing out Martin's unvoting of Renegade happened after Frinckle's unvoting)
    *219 - the ISO on Frinckles that accuses him of being Switcher; no vote
    235 - says his focus right then was on Switcher over triad because of trouble of scumhunting through alignment changes
    *236 - explains that SwitcherFrinckles could be signaling Triad because he doesn't know what team he'll be on tomorrow
    240 - admits the ISO was poorly formatted and written quickly
    259 - fluff

    -----Day 2 Start-----
    *752 - thinks D1 yeet was scum-driven, saw town perspective in Unknown, townreads yzb for "constant original points," especially post 418, (NOTE TO SELF: what post is that?) townreads me but didn't like my participation in the Oberon train, townread bakermir for expressing a lack of confidence in their reads and "pushing against chaos", townleans Martin based on his roleclaim and supposed uninformed perspective as evidenced by post 633, (NOTE TO SELF: what post is that?) mild town-lean on DM for "consistent" scumhunting that Helz disagrees with, doesn't know how to read Renegade, admits he overstated his "certainty" on Frinckles but still finds Frinckles suspicious for being on the Oberon train, scumlean on DW for pushing Oberon while possibly believing Oberon's claim, thinks Naz is inexperienced scum, believes in pressuring FrostByte for participation
    753 - Says he really would have worked with a switcher who came out D1, but advocates D1's switcher to come out and reveal the new switcher.
    754 - accuses FrostByte of being "semiconscious" about yeeting Oberon
    755 - Self Conscious*
    756 - Thinks DW is worth a second look; "big townie points for anyone who is willing to come forward and voice that they were switcher yesterday."
    757 - asks DW for his read on me
    762 - asks FB for his reads in response to FB's defense of his low participation
    763 - votes FB for "pressure"
    766 - tells FB he cares about content, not number of posts
    768 - quotes Unknown's scumlean on FrostByte as a reason FB should contribute more
    770 - "I promise I have read the entire thread at least 3 times."
    774 - clarifies that he wants FB to form an analyzable opinion, not just shallow reads
    *776 - Asks Naz for her thoughts now that she should have caught up, thinks naz is "on the radar with MattZed, Unknown and myself. I personally consider you a very viable D2 lynch as of days start."
    *778 - says Naz would die N2 if Helz was a vig
    782 - insists on getting an original thought out of FB
    786 - literally links FB to Helz' scumhunting guide
    790 - ends the FB pressure with "I do not understand why you made it such a massive issue to simply give thoughts on other players but it is what it is. "
    792 - Makes very clear that what he wants out of FB with final word of "Please give me more of your thoughts on other players"
    *849 - Asks Martin for who he bussed thinking that the DH was likely locked down
    853 - says Frinckles checking DM is "not possible for a few reasons," and is interested to hear more from Frinckles/DM
    1131 - doesn't think the DH targeted Frinckles because of how widely scumread he was (and thus a "viable mislynch") and how his claimed role is useful to triad, asks naz to clarify if they're detective or lookout, says our optimal play is to yeet DM or DW.
    *1134 - doesn't see it as possible for Frinckles to be lying about seeing DM as Switcher UNLESS Frinckles was a DH who got blocked, although Helz doubts this setup wouldn't have a scientist
    1139 - reinforces that Frinckles "is extremely likely town" and advocates sorting through DW and DM
    1143 - speculates that DM was switcher and stole a triad role from DW
    *1148 - thinks DW is the correct one to yeet first, and isn't sure risks of keeping switcher alive are worth it at this point
    1152 - Thinks the only reason a DH would shoot Frinckles is to avoid crossfire, says DW and DM were both scummy before night actions incriminated them
    *1157 - says Naz shouldn't be considered as a yeet until mid/late game because town naz would likely die soon
    1159 - says the evidence points to DM being switcher, Frinckles being scientist, Naz being an investigating role, and a Locksmith exists. Thinks Martin being BD is also reasonable, and suspects that there aren't any crazy gambits going on
    1164 - speculated a corrupted citizen got shot N1; doesn't think Frinckles was actually the N1 target
    *1173 - again says scientist claim is a bad target because the role helps triad too, but concedes attacking a BD claim N1 makes sense because of talk of BDs doing nothing D1, or that a kill on someone widely townread makes the most sense
    1176 - agrees with me (I think about Frinckles being scummy) but doesn't see how he could be fakeclaiming scientist
    1183 - doubles down that shooting a BD makes sense because a BD isn't any more likely to swap themselves than anyone else
    *1186 - says he was waiting for someone to mention the no-kill option, in response to Unknown bringing it up; says it would have been his play as DH to avoid crossfire and possibly frame someone (NOTE: in 1188, Frinckles claims to have mentioned it twice)
    1191 - in response to 1188, says he's playing this game "loose" and asks how Frinckles feels about Renegade
    *1198 - doubles down on 1186 saying that an escort claiming after a no-kill night outs a TPR and could drive TvTs
    1264 - says he "called it" on DW claiming to be the new switcher and formerly triad
    1270 - advocates yeeting the switcher today and then having the outed triad for tomorrow
    *1279 - votes DW, advocating it as "towns best play" and not wanting to get swapped "to Triad"
    1313 - says he believes DW's claim to being former triad; says DM could be a "vigi happy meal or our D3 lynch"
    *1330 - thinks not ending D2 to hear opinions on DW would be a waste of time because Triad doesn't want to keep Switcher alive
    1331 - advocates holding off massclaim for now because we can't use it to yeet yet; "just helps the Dragon Head pick his targets."
    *1338 - in response to baker, doesn't see point in massclaiming as info isn't important until D4 unless we have a vig, and it's still bad if we do have a vig because of a living witch
    *1354 - says we could have cits reveal as part of mechanical solving while not giving away TPRs, but also advocates for just scum hunting
    1355 - reinforces that cit claims would force DH to kill cits or risk targeting his own team
    *1357 - thinks I was potentially locksmith because DW claims to have witched me onto Martin (NOTE TO SELF: what post did Auwt clarify DW couldn't perform an action?)
    1382 - fluff
    1400 - fluff
    1405 - asks what Renegade thinks DM will flip?
    1418 - says he has the setup on in a separate tab and constantly goes to it when he has questions;
    1450 - fluff
    1451 - fluff
    1452 - accuses Renegade of having "potential Triad priorities" for casting shade on DW's claim that DM is triad. Helz also thinks there's a greater "emotional tone" to the DM defense
    1454 - asks Naz why she targeted DM N1
    *1456 - posts role speculation, generally feeling good about small number of claims scum can make
    1458 - Further comments on current claims being defensible
    1460 - says his PoE is among Baker/FrostByte/Renegade
    *1470 - again says there isn't harm in citizens claiming today
    1471 - tells naz D2 start is post 710
    1474 - says we know Martin or Frinckles were targeted N1, and thus Martin was likely locked down, which a moulder wouldn't want to do, so we should believe there's a locksmith
    1479 - doesn't like naz voting Unknown; votes DW
    1482 - is okay with a hammer now given "chat patterns yesterday"
    *1501 - decided not to post thoughts on what a CA would do N1 "for reasons"
    1504 - tells baker his PoE that includes baker is not in any particular order
    *1506 - explains his PoE as being being about Baker/BF/Ren/Naz/Unknown/Yzb, but excluing Naz until lategame and excluding Unknown/yzb for being widely townread


    I think Helz is more likely town, and that his Butler crumb was credible and consistent. I'll have more thoughts, including on his D3 play, in my LW.

    -vote Dark Magician
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  7. ISO #2257

  8. ISO #2258

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I kinda wish I could have seen you do mine first, but I suppose it's too late to say that now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  9. ISO #2259

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    I kinda wish I could have seen you do mine first, but I suppose it's too late to say that now.
    You've made like 300 posts and I'll be lucky if I can finish Helz and then yours N3.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  10. ISO #2260

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    You've made like 300 posts and I'll be lucky if I can finish Helz and then yours N3.
    I understand. I've read through this game enough times that if I do it anymore my brain might explode.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  11. ISO #2261

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Jesus you guys cut this shit close. Good thing I set an alarm

    Security, Escort this guy out of the party and get a restraining order! He keeps talking about stalking people!

    -vote Dark Magician
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  12. ISO #2262

  13. ISO #2263

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party



    @Dark Magician has been kicked out of the party !

    Their role was : Sorcerer

    NIGHT 3 HAS STARTED AND WILL END IN :

    • 00

    • 00

    • 00

    • 00

    DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS



    Remember to send your night action !
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  14. ISO #2264

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    THE FOOLING PARTY

    DAY 4 :

    @yzb25 died this night ! Their role was : Shopkeeper


    Spoiler : yzb25's LW :
    I was escort.

    n1: Frostbyte n2: Frostbyte n3: Helz



    PLAYERS CURRENTLY ALIVE :

    @Helz
    @MartinGG99
    @FrostByte
    @Frinckles
    @Unknown1234
    @naz
    @MattZed
    @Renegade

    PLAYERS WHO LEFT THE PARTY :

    @Oberon (Bus Driver)
    @deathworlds (Switcher)
    @bakermir (Citizen)
    @Dark Magician (Sorcerer)
    @yzb25 (Shopkeeper)


    DAY 4 HAS STARTED AND WILL END IN

    • 00

    • 00

    • 00

    • 00

    DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS



    8 PLAYERS REMAINING, 5 votes to hammer.
    Last edited by Auwt; November 22nd, 2020 at 02:14 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

  15. ISO #2265

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I can confirm that myself and @yzb25 had sexual relations last night.

    I did not consent and I feel violated today.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

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  17. ISO #2267

  18. ISO #2268

  19. ISO #2269

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Win conditions :

    Town : Get rid off all the Triad, while having at least 1 Town alive who is not facing a Switcher.
    Triad : Get rid off all the Town, while having at least 1 Triad alive who is not facing a Switcher.
    Switcher : Make sure to enter a 1v1 tie situation against Town or Triad OR manage to be at 3 different times a Switcher.

  20. ISO #2270

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
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    @Dark Magician has been kicked out of the party !

    Their role was : Sorcerer
    Quote Originally Posted by FrostByte View Post
    I'll take you up on that. If we lynch switcher today and DM flips triad I'll eat a ghost pepper.
    @FrostByte
    Clever addition of the 'today'. I was about to poke you about a Ghost pepper in your future
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  21. ISO #2271

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    holy shit Yzb25 was a shopkeeper

    that cleared Frostbyte of being the current DH

    buuuuttttt that doesn't clear Helz of being DH because I switched Renegade and Helz last night.

    If Helz is the DH then I am surprised that I actually managed to be a detriment to town last night; not what I was expecting
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  22. ISO #2272

  23. ISO #2273

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Even if we mislynch, I don't think game is over since DH can still kill a traid. Right?
    Yeah, The game will go on until every play from one fraction is killed. Even if you guys get a majority the Town can still win.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  24. ISO #2274

  25. ISO #2275

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Yeah, The game will go on until every play from one fraction is killed. Even if you guys get a majority the Town can still win.
    Watch your lip. Guess what? DM lynch didn't kill Frinckles. You seemed so desperate for that to happen but it didn't and of course I knew it wouldn't because I locked him twice.

  26. ISO #2276

  27. ISO #2277

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I'm only about 30% through the posts Helz has made this game. (finished #1152) I don't think I'm going to make it by EoD.

    Mild tinfoil: if DM flips not-DH, I think Martin is a decent candidate for DH. He's admitted to targeting the N1 lock target, and he himself wasn't the target of the N1 night kill unless some TPR is holding back. Bus Driver is a claim a detective wouldn't follow, and he very well could have made the calculated "I would like a bus driver to die; there probably isn't a second one, so my CC won't get CC'd. He's still scummy AF so I may still get believed."
    @Helz , does this motivation seem consistent with what D1 Martin posted?

    (keep in mind this theory goes out the window if DM flips DH, in which case the lack of an N1 kill is perfectly explained)
    I do not think Martian should be considered for a lynch at all this game unless some new evidence comes up on him. The way he revealed makes his claim extremely likely even if we dont get BD feedback.

    A part of me would FoS you for suggesting him if I didnt have a peek on you.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  28. ISO #2278

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    But with that LW tho....

    1. Helz can't be DH, RB'ed last night

    2. Naz can't be DH (proven PR of some alignment)

    3. Frostbyte got RB'ed n1 and n2, so not DH

    So that leaves possible DH's to just MattZed.......or possibly Unknown oddly enough even though I've thought he was town

    If I'm thinking straight
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  29. ISO #2279

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I do not think Martian should be considered for a lynch at all this game unless some new evidence comes up on him. The way he revealed makes his claim extremely likely even if we dont get BD feedback.

    A part of me would FoS you for suggesting him if I didnt have a peek on you.
    Starting to question your own fake 'peek'?

  30. ISO #2280

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    But with that LW tho....

    1. Helz can't be DH, RB'ed last night

    2. Naz can't be DH (proven PR of some alignment)

    3. Frostbyte got RB'ed n1 and n2, so not DH

    So that leaves possible DH's to just MattZed.......or possibly Unknown oddly enough even though I've thought he was town

    If I'm thinking straight
    And renegade is proven PR as well

    what the fuck
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  31. ISO #2281

  32. ISO #2282

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    And renegade is proven PR as well

    what the fuck
    Well wait

    DW said he controlled MattZed onto me on n1 before we eliminated him

    if he was DH then I would've died n1 because Rene locked Frinckles and not my house
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  33. ISO #2283

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Watch your lip. Guess what? DM lynch didn't kill Frinckles. You seemed so desperate for that to happen but it didn't and of course I knew it wouldn't because I locked him twice.
    There you go repeating people again. I don't feel desperate at all. And I don't think you knew it wouldn't happen. EoD you even started backtracking some justification in case it did:
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    It is my understanding I locked Frinckles last night. If he happens to die, it is possible DM witch redirected me and then who knows who was locked. DM claims to have seen Frinckles visit Naz but that information was publicly available at the time.
    I think you should be the lynch today. It resolves You/Naz and will clearly show how Unknown is pushing counter wagon to keep you alive after recognizing you as his team mate.
    -vote Renegade
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  34. ISO #2284

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Well wait

    DW said he controlled MattZed onto me on n1 before we eliminated him

    if he was DH then I would've died n1 because Rene locked Frinckles and not my house
    Good point. Then either DW lied (possible) or one of the butler claims is DH.

    Which Butler do you think is real Marino?

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  36. ISO #2286

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    There you go repeating people again. I don't feel desperate at all. And I don't think you knew it wouldn't happen. EoD you even started backtracking some justification in case it did:


    I think you should be the lynch today. It resolves You/Naz and will clearly show how Unknown is pushing counter wagon to keep you alive after recognizing you as his team mate.
    -vote Renegade
    The correct lynch is between the butler claims...

  37. ISO #2287

  38. ISO #2288

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    But with that LW tho....

    1. Helz can't be DH, RB'ed last night

    2. Naz can't be DH (proven PR of some alignment)

    3. Frostbyte got RB'ed n1 and n2, so not DH

    So that leaves possible DH's to just MattZed.......or possibly Unknown oddly enough even though I've thought he was town

    If I'm thinking straight
    Matt is semi-confirmed town via butler peek + being the only citizen slot.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  39. ISO #2289

  40. ISO #2290

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    The correct lynch is between the butler claims...
    Its either Me, You, Unknown or Naz today.

    And be back in a bit. I need to dig though what Martin just suggested. We might have Unknown as mechanically verified DH if he is right.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  41. ISO #2291

  42. ISO #2292

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    okay I admit I was ignoring the Helz + Unkown interactions for awhile because I thought it was more likely Helz that was lying

    but with that flip and LW......

    it just looks like it has to be Unkown with all the other mechanical information we have

    unless someone is going to argue a triad random (ex: operator) caught and fucked with Yzb25?

    but then they'd probably swap targets with me or someone else

    and create a whole bunch of feedback fuckery that I haven't seen any evidence of
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  43. ISO #2293

  44. ISO #2294

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    okay I admit I was ignoring the Helz + Unkown interactions for awhile because I thought it was more likely Helz that was lying

    but with that flip and LW......

    it just looks like it has to be Unkown with all the other mechanical information we have

    unless someone is going to argue a triad random (ex: operator) caught and fucked with Yzb25?

    but then they'd probably swap targets with me or someone else

    and create a whole bunch of feedback fuckery that I haven't seen any evidence of
    -vote Unkown


    Just a contemporary vote for now

    because Unkown may have just been legitimately proven as DH by the info provided by Yzb25's flip and night actions
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

  45. ISO #2295

  46. ISO #2296

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Naz Proven PR
    Me RB on night kill
    Frost RB on night kill
    Frinckles Confirmed Scientist
    Martin extreemly likely BD
    Renigade Proven PR
    MattZed Confirmed via only Citizen claim and Butler peek

    That literally ONLY leaves Unknown.

    -vote Unknown1234


    I will just have to wait a day for you Renegade
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  47. ISO #2297

  48. ISO #2298

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    I know this is kinda balls out for me to say, but could you guys just sheep me on Renegade tommorow? I have been right like every time at this point. Even if I am dead go Renegade over Naz. By Unknowns behavior even he thinks Renegade is his team mate.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

  49. ISO #2299

  50. ISO #2300

    Re: S-FM 316 : The Fooling Party

    Also @MartinGG99

    Mad props bro~

    You just made today really easy. I do not know if I have ever played a mafia game where so many days have an unquestionable lynch set.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

 

 

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