S-FM 310: DTM

[BananaCucho]

This is why I called a Thunderdome.

VOTE DUDE MIKE
OR
VOTE DARK MAGICIAN

Good either way. I prefer the Dark Magician so I can get another check in case we have a BG OR medic. If not I die tonight. but that leaves other town pr a chance to find the other scum.

Sheriff
Doc
Cit
?
?
?

vs 6 non town, including at least 2 mafia

How is this balanced Mike. How.

[Mike]

Why in the first 12 hours would Mike thunderdome?

I mean, let's say you know DM is mafia, why not sit on that info some more...? Gather more evidence.

Smells goofy to me.

He had put Gry in L1 who had not even made a single post. I mean come on. If i sat on that info I would be throwing.

[Frinckles]

again, still waking up what the heck is DM claiming

[Mike]

Sheriff
Doc
Cit
?
?
?

vs 6 non town, including at least 2 mafia

How is this balanced Mike. How.

How is 6v6 balanced. Martian said MM balanced It I have no clue as to how. You are asking me questions I can not answer.

[BananaCucho]

He had put Gry in L1 who had not even made a single post. I mean come on. If i sat on that info I would be throwing.

OR

You are so sure of DM being scum for putting Gry at L-1 you decided to fake a n0 check on him

If you admit this right now, I'll vote DM.

[BananaCucho]

How is 6v6 balanced. Martian said MM balanced It I have no clue as to how. You are asking me questions I can not answer.

I have a few ideas

6v1v1v1v1v1v1 is a possibility

There could be a scum team. But I doubt they possess a night kill if that's the case

Nothing about 6v6 screams conventional game. Mafia literally could just sit on their hands if they exist and pick town off one by one

[Mike]

OR

You are so sure of DM being scum for putting Gry at L-1 you decided to fake a n0 check on him

If you admit this right now, I'll vote DM.

I will not admit that for your vote because it would be a lie. I received feedback he was Mafia. I know not think. I am going off my feedback from Mod. that is all I can go off of.

[BananaCucho]

How does Martin design a 7v5 CONVENTIONAL game, discuss with MM behind the scenes, then change it to a 6v6 CONVENTIONAL game

Like really? There's a reason why I find your claim to just be... fake Mike

[BananaCucho]

I will not admit that for your vote because it would be a lie. I received feedback he was Mafia. I know not think. I am going off my feedback from Mod. that is all I can go off of.

Then the only thing holding me back from voting DM is literally you, because the claim is bs

[Frinckles]

I will not admit that for your vote because it would be a lie. I received feedback he was Mafia. I know not think. I am going off my feedback from Mod. that is all I can go off of.

It's possible you were given fake feedback, no?

There was a N0 no kill; obviously somebody did something or talked to someone.

[Frinckles]

For example, you could be a fake sheriff or ran into a drug dealer.

[BananaCucho]

It's possible you were given fake feedback, no?

There was a N0 no kill; obviously somebody did something or talked to someone.

6v6, town having a sheriff and mafia existing and having a framer? Even more suspect

[Mike]

I have a few ideas

6v1v1v1v1v1v1 is a possibility

There could be a scum team. But I doubt they possess a night kill if that's the case

Nothing about 6v6 screams conventional game. Mafia literally could just sit on their hands if they exist and pick town off one by one

What if they had 1 mafia 1 triad 1 sk?

Who knows. That would explain DM response to me catching him as mafia. If DM is a MAfia team of just 1 That would suck. wow

But 100% he is Mafia. That is all the info I have do i know if there is a team or a solo mafia I have no clue.

[Norwee]

Wow you guys are really paranoid of this dude.
Does he pull fake shit often?

[Frinckles]

6v6, town having a sheriff and mafia existing and having a framer? Even more suspect

yeah we also don't have last wills here, a framer who causes the flip to be disguised could make sense.

[Mike]

Then the only thing holding me back from voting DM is literally you, because the claim is bs

I dont know what to tell you but it is not fake it is not BS.

[BananaCucho]

What if they had 1 mafia 1 triad 1 sk?

Who knows. That would explain DM response to me catching him as mafia. If DM is a MAfia team of just 1 That would suck. wow

But 100% he is Mafia. That is all the info I have do i know if there is a team or a solo mafia I have no clue.

3 night kills could be a thing, if this game is just a clusterfuck of a game

[Frinckles]

Wow you guys are really paranoid of this dude.
Does he pull fake shit often?

I literally fake claim wifom'd with him that I was a cop last game and the both of us were town while renegade was the real cop.

we were both trying to pull the shot.

yes. he will do silly shit.

[BananaCucho]

I dont know what to tell you but it is not fake it is not BS.

But you can understand why it seems suspect to me? Are you following my train of thought here?

[BananaCucho]

Wow you guys are really paranoid of this dude.
Does he pull fake shit often?

He is chaos lol and its NAI

[Mike]

I literally fake claim wifom'd with him that I was a cop last game and the both of us were town while renegade was the real cop.

we were both trying to pull the shot.

yes. he will do silly shit.

This is true.

[Frinckles]

Anyway, Mike can you explain to me what makes DM inherently scummy outside of your red check?

I don't know if you're a real cop, and insane cop, a framer etc. Work with me.

[Frinckles]

Also what the hell is DM claiming?

[BananaCucho]

Also what the hell is DM claiming?

He heavily softed citizen with his apathetic "I dont wanna play this game with this role" posts

[BananaCucho]

"Just eat me for lunch guys, get me outta here, I am a fine lunch"

smh

[Mike]

But you can understand why it seems suspect to me? Are you following my train of thought here?

Yes I get it. I put myselfs in your shoes if you are town. I get how you see it like that. Can you see how on my end it is frustrating you get a mafia check Night 0. and know he is mafia and others dont belive you.

But I do see why you are thinking like you are and I dont blame you. I just need to find a way for you to find me as town here. I was Scum reading you as a partner of DM. But What you are doing now is evaluating worlds. That is big town for you.

When you put the 6v1v1v1v1v1v1 out there made me think. This is most likly a 1 mafia 1 scum 1 scum 1 scum 2 3rd partys. Trying to think banance wize would make seance why they put my role in.

If that is true we may be able to reduce KP by 1 today by lynching DM

[Norwee]

Is all this speculation doing us any favours. I can only assume Mike is honest and we found scum here.

-vote Dark Magician

[BananaCucho]

Is all this speculation doing us any favours. I can only assume Mike is honest and we found scum here.

-vote Dark Magician

It flipped Mike's scum read of me into a "evaluating worlds big town", so I'd say its doing me a favor at least lol

[Mike]

Anyway, Mike can you explain to me what makes DM inherently scummy outside of your red check?

I don't know if you're a real cop, and insane cop, a framer etc. Work with me.

his first 4 posts where all fluff and he then joined the game with no problem puting someone on L1 with no reads. some one who has not even posted yet. That is not very townie The reason I had to out my role and check.

He then said he read Gry scummy by his tone. Gry had not even made a post.

When I confronted him He litteelry just gave up. I am guessing he might be a single MAfia. This is an odd setup.

He is saying he is the worthless Town role.

I know you dont know if I am real I am. But lynching him gives you my Alignment on his flip.

[BananaCucho]

-vote Dark Magician

[BananaCucho]

Oh no


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[BananaCucho]

• Dark Magician (4 [L-3]):
  BananaCucho, Stealthbomber16, Mike, Norwee
  

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  Gyrlander (2 [L-5]):
  Frinckles, Firebringer
  

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  bakermir (1 [L-6]):
  Oberon
  

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  BananaCucho (1 [L-6]):
  bakermir

[Frinckles]

If Mike were a framer (keep in mind we have no last wills) and DM flips red because he was framed, i can expect green checks across the board henceforth.

Hm and yet I'm legitimately curious about the question I posed on DMs claim last night. What role is he inferring?

[Mike]

It flipped Mike's scum read of me into a "evaluating worlds big town", so I'd say its doing me a favor at least lol

This is true I did flip on you.
Banana you are a big troll but I have noticed when you are town you start off Trolling but when there is real info you evaluate.

FRom MY PoV you where not evaluating just hard defending DM who I got a MAfia check on. I read that as posible partners with DM trying to save him.

Then when you wanted me to see your thought process and wanted me to see where you got it. What you said made alot of sense. And I found that VERRY Townnie of you.

Banana my town read on you has nothing to do with your vote. It has with you trying to honestly try and evaluate this game. not just say Just because. So I will say at this time you are my Top town read. I see your train of thought it makes sence. You may scum read me for it I dont care but at least I found you.

I would also love to hear who you think I should check N1.

[Frinckles]

I would be unlucky to have gotten this role in mafia and that role is ____________

interesting

this.

[Stealthbomber16]

oh noooo im banana and bakermir voted meeee

[Mike]

If Mike were a framer (keep in mind we have no last wills) and DM flips red because he was framed, i can expect green checks across the board henceforth.

Hm and yet I'm legitimately curious about the question I posed on DMs claim last night. What role is he inferring?

Framer does not frame Gravyard. That would have to be a role like suitmaker.

[BananaCucho]

oh noooo im banana and bakermir voted meeee

Accurate

[Frinckles]

it make very little sense to assume that a citizen is a forced or guaranteed role @BananaCucho

This is mafia, citizens are always a thing and he has been a citizen before.

[Mike]

this.

If you where a single Mafia tell me what would you be thinking?

[Frinckles]

Framer does not frame Gravyard. That would have to be a role like suitmaker.

sure. Could be.

[BananaCucho]

God if this is another game with tainted flips I will punt a puppy

[Frinckles]

If you where a single Mafia tell me what would you be thinking?

even flavor wise that makes no sense; why not SK?

[Mike]

sure. Could be.

Tell me would MM alow a role that affects flips in a 6v6 game? with no LW? That would be imposible for town to win.

[Frinckles]

Like (I hope this isn't angleshooting)

If you got a mafia check on him, that implies 2 things

We have an sk.

There are multiple killing factions.

[Mike]

even flavor wise that makes no sense; why not SK?

Because I received his Alignment was Mafia. That is why not SK.

[Frinckles]

Tell me would MM alow a role that affects flips in a 6v6 game? with no LW? That would be imposible for town to win.

it wouldn't be impossible.

And it's entirely plausible

[Frinckles]

Because I received his Alignment was Mafia. That is why not SK.

in the context of him being alone. Why would he say what he said? Read him.

[Mike]

Like (I hope this isn't angleshooting)

If you got a mafia check on him, that implies 2 things

We have an sk.

There are multiple killing factions.

Yes 100% I received his Alignment was Mafia. This is fact.

[BananaCucho]

it make very little sense to assume that a citizen is a forced or guaranteed role @BananaCucho

This is mafia, citizens are always a thing and he has been a citizen before.

And I feel like he's acted apathetic this way after rolling citizen before. But I may be misremembering