S-FM 306: Mafia Wars (13p Ongoing)

[LuckyDucky]

QUACK QUACK. I just noticed this you animal! You at some point need to acknowledge this. I do have good feelings about you right now, you pointed out Varcron calling that early TVT I think as awkward or something like that, I happen to agree that the comment felt forced and out of place.

YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE META FOR WHAT IS! UNBROKEN AND ALWAYS TRUE!

That was directed to MM.

IDK if you are trying to appeal to my ego here or what. Duck's don't have ego's we have webbed feet and a bill. I don't like the fact that you say this, I don't think you've ever appealed to me like this before as either alignment.

You also know that I will have your alignment locked in by the EOD today, for now town lean, very easily subject to change based on your ability to fall into certain habits when your a wolf : D

Also Directed to MM.

In regards to MM I didn't pick up on the part where he assumes you to auto trust him because he town reads you, calling it a lock seems a bit of a stretch. Can you clarify that for me on why you think that?
FMPOV asking you what you think about certain players doesn't seem out of the ordinary for a player who town reads someone. It actually shows that they want to either further try and solve you or just bounce off theories and or reads to try and find some wolves. I also don't see the "slippery" aspect of things, as for me he seems fairly straight forward.

He shares feelings with you about town possibly being in a bad spot. I also share these same feelings because I believe frinckles and yagami to likley both be town, I made a post explaining it somewhere. Right now I'd say MM is probably the most (content wise) towny player here.

Directed at baker.

Town Leans

MM

bananaman

frinckles (RIP)

yagami (RIP)

Losing town steam

baker

Scum leans

Varcron

Auwt

Mesk

What do you mean by tunnel on you and MM?

I made like three posts explaining what I thought about your interactions, I don't know what logic you expect from me that's not already been said..

Directed to baker.

Weird how you peg my posts about you as committed, yet haven't really commented on any of my other stuff. FMPOV it's kind of a over the top reaction to call a tunnel on someone for stating a few observations about an interaction/post you made.

If you could poke back in to post #361. I didn't feel like you even bothered to try and address what I said about your assumption of MM expecting you to auto town lock him. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the wording. I didn't see how you could say that is all, and I wanted some clarification there.

[COLOR="#00FF00"]I also really noticed "a slippery marshmallow" so some clarification there would be helpful, as to why you think that.[/COLOR] I hope this is more clear and concise this time lol.

Directed to baker, see the quote right below this for the typo error to be resolved in the "slippery marshmallow." Also I bring up how I wanted clarification from baker which I eel I didn't recieve the first time.

Insert haven't after also and before really in that last sentence lol

you just scum cc'd me now you are telling me you are backing off

you are just trolling here

i am ready to lock my vote on you rest of d2

I don't even know what this means. I seriously don't.

what a shit hole you are dragging me in to here

amazing.



what happened to your reads on MM being slippery? now he is gambino for you right? how hard are you going to pocket people here and now bring everyones attention to me.


no one is buying it chicken

Notice what baker says here. He's asking me what happened to my read on MM being slippery? He's also insinuating that now all of a sudden MM is Gambino for me?

MM has been a town lean of mine since early day 1. Not once did I ever say MM was slippery. MM being slippery were your words baker not mine lol get your facts straight please.

[bakermir]

Well I was wrong in the TVT between Yagami and Frinckles so that doesn't really tell me anything except maybe solidify my town read on MM. I guess DM flipping town could mean that scum saw his vote on me and voted me (Auwt/Mesk) opportunistically.

what is this dude? stop dodging

your rebuttal haven't developed from "no u"

[LuckyDucky]

I'm 100% okay with voting either baker or Auwt today.

[LuckyDucky]

I'll BBL.
QUACK!

[Varcron]

Yeah I already argued that you did it though and you already refuted, so why ask again?

And that argument is dumb tbh, you tried to recruit me (thinking you were cult master) in a game where Sen+SJ were tunneling me like crazy, and I was barely almost lunched day 1. So explain the difference there.

The difference there was in that case I believed that if you were not lynched D1 you would have been able to survive longer and be a thorn in their side as a diversion for the other evils. That is not the case here.

[bakermir]

Weird how you peg my posts about you as committed, yet haven't really commented on any of my other stuff. FMPOV it's kind of a over the top reaction to call a tunnel on someone for stating a few observations about an interaction/post you made.

If you could poke back in to post #361. I didn't feel like you even bothered to try and address what I said about your assumption of MM expecting you to auto town lock him. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the wording. I didn't see how you could say that is all, and I wanted some clarification there.

I also really noticed "a slippery marshmallow" so some clarification there would be helpful, as to why you think that. I hope this is more clear and concise this time lol.

and this...

there was no reason to deny your flip flop with MM.

you are just outed scum at this point with trying to get everyone on me.


you are scum and i am done doubting your alignment.



i dont know who we are lynching today if no consensus is made on anyone else i urge town on lucky

[Varcron]

Mesk is NEVER an easy day 1 target or flipbait. Her meta is to claim cit day 1 and get away with it. It's a longstanding meme on this site, "confirmed town Mesk"

Your post is either ignorant or flat out incorrect

About as memey as me being lynchbait D1

[Varcron]

I'm 100% okay with voting either baker or Auwt today.

Based on your responses you seem desperate however wording things very carefully.

[LuckyDucky]

Weird how you peg my posts about you as committed, yet haven't really commented on any of my other stuff. FMPOV it's kind of a over the top reaction to call a tunnel on someone for stating a few observations about an interaction/post you made.

If you could poke back in to post #361. I didn't feel like you even bothered to try and address what I said about your assumption of MM expecting you to auto town lock him. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the wording. I didn't see how you could say that is all, and I wanted some clarification there.

I also really noticed "a slippery marshmallow" so some clarification there would be helpful, as to why you think that. I hope this is more clear and concise this time lol.

Insert haven't after also and before really in that last sentence lol

Don't forget that after 387, comes my next post 389. I've never once flip flopped on MM.

Anyone who wants to take a peek at this checkout my wall post #851. I've never flip flopped on MM.

[LuckyDucky]

In regards to MM I didn't pick up on the part where he assumes you to auto trust him because he town reads you, calling it a lock seems a bit of a stretch. Can you clarify that for me on why you think that?
FMPOV asking you what you think about certain players doesn't seem out of the ordinary for a player who town reads someone. It actually shows that they want to either further try and solve you or just bounce off theories and or reads to try and find some wolves. I also don't see the "slippery" aspect of things, as for me he seems fairly straight forward.

He shares feelings with you about town possibly being in a bad spot. I also share these same feelings because I believe frinckles and yagami to likley both be town, I made a post explaining it somewhere. Right now I'd say MM is probably the most (content wise) towny player here.

Oh look another town MM read.

[LuckyDucky]

Based on your responses you seem desperate however wording things very carefully.

Why would I be desperate when I'm not in any danger?

[LuckyDucky]

-vote bakermir

[bakermir]

Why would I be desperate when I'm not in any danger?

your whole attack post progression was desperate. one post you are scumpainting me, next post you are pocketing someone, third post a read that again paints me indirectly, fourth post another pocket.


like okay, you believed in your head i am the dumbest here.

then you have channeled your energy on me while i was voting someone.

i can connect many things to this. but in nature you have done the scummiest play here mate and you are still playing "no u"

no one is going to buy in to that


how egocentric are you

[Mesk514]

Honestly, the way I see it...
The lynch pool is simple



Naz
DS
LuckyDucky

Auwt
Renegade
Bakermir
Varcron

The first three can go in any order.
Also, conveniently lucky ducky left two people out of his reads list

[Mesk514]

and if you ask my why banana and MM aren't up in that list, its cause TOWNCORE TOWNCORE

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If we have a vig, shoot Renegade

I missed this post yesterday. Do you actually scumread Renegade, or was that a trolly post? If you seriously do, why? Nothing from him struck me as either towny or scummy, which is actually strange, considering it's Renegade we're talking about, not some uncontroversial AFKboi lol.

[bakermir]

Honestly, the way I see it...
The lynch pool is simple



Naz
DS
LuckyDucky

Auwt
Renegade
Bakermir
Varcron

The first three can go in any order.
Also, conveniently lucky ducky left two people out of his reads list

Auwt's pov has some valid points but it is mostly based on DS and Auwt not being in same team. auwt also have a case against lucky which is why i believe this is S1vS2 at best and S1vT at worst s1 being ducky in the equation. ds reads lucky town btw. ds reads mm scum.

correct me if im wrong. there is a triangle of love hate love relationship here and i find ducky to be center of it. they have replaced all other candidates and number one in my poe today

[Mesk514]

Auwt's pov has some valid points but it is mostly based on DS and Auwt not being in same team. auwt also have a case against lucky which is why i believe this is S1vS2 at best and S1vT at worst s1 being ducky in the equation. ds reads lucky town btw. ds reads mm scum.

correct me if im wrong. there is a triangle of love hate love relationship here and i find ducky to be center of it. they have replaced all other candidates and number one in my poe today

My guess is Naz is FBI, DS and Ducky are Lucianos

[bakermir]

My guess is Naz is FBI, DS and Ducky are Lucianos

it makes no sense for ducky to townread both ds and mm. typical fencesitter with an agenda

naz didnt strike me as too much of a scum or connected to anyone. not sure on that part.

i am not erasing auwt out of my mind here but honestly ducky surely takes their spot where my vote goes. to me ds ducky relationship could be both luciano as you point or mole/fbi which i think. but there is no need to speculate on what they are. the scummy move should be punished. im okay to any poe in them but my vote is on ducky simply for dirty plays and tunnel

[bakermir]

-vote LuckyDucky

i cant make any sense for their position. i have shown too much empathy since day 1 for ducky. i am done with their theatre. i am certain this is the right vote today.


ducky will flip scum i am sure of it. i have seen this happen to me before. this time i am not naive. this is martin trolling me all over again

[Auwt]

LET ME GUESS

ITS BIG BRAIN SCUM STRAT TO USE THEM PLAYING THE GAME AMIRITE

By the way Banana, if you go by, and if you're still allowed to talk, do you mind explaining it?
I didn't get the meaning at all.

[bakermir]

tldr at least one scum in auwt ducky ds 100%


my money is on ducky. could be mole, could be luciano could be fbi

u name it. duck is outed scum. with his flip we can start connecting rest of the dots.



auwt and ds are secondary and third actors here who were brought up to stage either by accident or by lack of their input. auwt provided a stance. we don't know ds stance yet. i am seeing both sides scumlean but i would still go for auwt vote for information value.


correct lynch today is ducky

im soon done with work and need to bail for dnd sesh but i will be following the progress

[DS.]

Okay feeling alot better today. Reading up now

[DS.]

That's why:

Spoiler : Posts against DS :

Hopefully my vote is dressed enough now. My scumread is maintained.

On another note, I don't think my question to you about Auwt has been answered (if you replied, oops). Do you still think he's going the easy route?

Case is weak son

[naz]

No I understand that part of your argument and kinda agree with it. Vacuum is TWTBW from that janitor thing, and people are being opportunistic about it

I disagree with the "They voted me last second over vacuum cause TPR v Cit, you are both cits (if both town)

too white to be white?

wE NEED SOYCHAMP AND OTHER NEW EMOTES HERE

imagine a mafia game where u can only type emotes

[naz]

You hear that? It's an Echo echo echo echo echo echo echo chamber

Townchips for scumreading all the people we are talking about right now?

Coaster.

tru ^^^^^

has anyone seen banana's scum play? what is it like?

[naz]

Wow.
Only thing you have to say ? Not better than DS' and Ducky's votes on Mesk.

and that's all u have to say?? lol

[naz]

At the time I made my post, there were only Banana, MM, Varcron, DM, Ducky on the list.
I took my time to show who is the scummier to my eyes between them.

what list??? almost everyone was alive when u made this post

[naz]

What do you even want me to provide?
You are part of my voters man, don't act like you are waiting for my defense.
I cannot even defend myself cause there are no accusation?

u are not even trying to solve the game tho? u don't need to defend, u need to be town

which i'm not getting from u at alll

I made post where there is matter and things to work with/debate.
I am the lowest poster of this game, however I'm one being the most quoted.
If you still feel like I'm a coaster, even after saying this, carry on.

Starting from 0 doesn't mean giving a new coal vein to this stupid train that was on Mesk and that redirected to me today apparently.

this is NOT something to be proud of lmao

yeah and thats extremely scummy lol

solve or die

-vote auwt

[naz]

As MM is most likely gambino due to an early reveal plus D1 interaction against Varcron,
and Mesk being hit by some death train,
and DS being part of this train,
You guys should see where my vote is going.

sooooo much TMI???

[naz]

OMFG @Auwt please unvote.

are u gonna do anything to help solve game or ?

[Renegade]

You know what Auwt, I'll follow you. Why not

-vote LuckyDucky

Rereading the thread and this irks me to no end.

[naz]

you just scum cc'd me now you are telling me you are backing off

you are just trolling here

i am ready to lock my vote on you rest of d2

baker did u just admit to being scum?!

[naz]

Honestly, the way I see it...
The lynch pool is simple



Naz
DS
LuckyDucky

Auwt
Renegade
Bakermir
Varcron

The first three can go in any order.
Also, conveniently lucky ducky left two people out of his reads list

lmao why me
u can go uselessssssss sheep

[naz]

My guess is Naz is FBI, DS and Ducky are Lucianos

insulted u think id be bad enough to recruit frinck n0

ur obviously not even reading the game

-vote mesk514

[Renegade]

-unvote

2char

[Renegade]

-vote Mesk514

I am also strongly considering voting Auwt as well.

[naz]

u name it. duck is outed scum. with his flip we can start connecting rest of the dots.

he disproved u tho? i'm not scum reading duck at all

[bakermir]

baker did u just admit to being scum?!

i don't think you would assume me meaning it that way.

he is an outed scum that claims i am scum while we had a possible two wagons consisting of at least 1 scum.


just so you know, mm voted ds(/), i started votes on auwt(+), banana went on ren(+). ren voted varcron(/), banana switch to auwt(+). ducky wagon auwt to L-3(-). auwt claims ds is part of scum(/) both mesk and auwt put ds on L1(-). nobody hammers(/) ducky votes me up(-), mesk votes ducky up(+), i vote ducky up(+).

this is the interactions i tracked and gave them - + / depending on how i view them.

if you think i claimed scum cc other scum with ducky, you should reread the things. in no way i meant that. he is scumpainting me for bullshit. he is throwing himself out there

[bakermir]

he disproved u tho? i'm not scum reading duck at all

what did he disprove?

i have shown both posts where he admits to flip flopping with mm.


he is pocketing a different person in each post and scumpaints me in other. the same thing he have done d1.


this is a 100% scum attempt on me. are you really buying it naz? sorry but i dont. i have given him too many chances until this point. i can smell the scum making plays today with votes and wagons. the most stinky one is ducky to me

[bakermir]

i am willing to vote other in my poe but when I have a 100% scum player here which claims he didnt threaten anyone or got threatened then why did he leave a vote on me and left while i was voting auwt? they have an agenda simple as that. they are deffo saving someone here and trying to take out a town. risky plays from them but i am sold to this idea coz nobody would expect it right? not for me friends

[naz]

what did he disprove?

look at this post: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post884340 (post 851 if the link breaks)

this is a 100% scum attempt on me. are you really buying it naz? sorry but i dont. i have given him too many chances until this point. i can smell the scum making plays today with votes and wagons. the most stinky one is ducky to me

i'm not saying ur scum because of ur read on duck but did u ignore post 851 ??

[Renegade]

i don't think you would assume me meaning it that way.

he is an outed scum that claims i am scum while we had a possible two wagons consisting of at least 1 scum.


just so you know, mm voted ds(/), i started votes on auwt(+), banana went on ren(+). ren voted varcron(/), banana switch to auwt(+). ducky wagon auwt to L-3(-). auwt claims ds is part of scum(/) both mesk and auwt put ds on L1(-). nobody hammers(/) ducky votes me up(-), mesk votes ducky up(+), i vote ducky up(+).

this is the interactions i tracked and gave them - + / depending on how i view them.

if you think i claimed scum cc other scum with ducky, you should reread the things. in no way i meant that. he is scumpainting me for bullshit. he is throwing himself out there

Half of these + and / are goofy.

Mesk and Auwt put ds at L1 in the first 12 hours is a null?

Ducky votes you is a minus?

Is this coming from the Zedus "anyone who disagrees with me I scumread" school of thought?

Mesk votes ducky is a +? Lmao.

[Renegade]

Am I misreading?

+ is good

- is null

/ is bad

[Renegade]

Ugh yes I am confused. Hold on

Half of these + and / are goofy.

Mesk and Auwt put ds at L1 in the first 12 hours is a null?

Ducky votes you is a minus?

Is this coming from the Zedus "anyone who disagrees with me I scumread" school of thought?

Mesk votes ducky is a +? Lmao.

Delete the italics.

[bakermir]

Am I misreading?

+ is good

- is null

/ is bad

+ is positive move

- is negative move

/ is fifty/fifty


how does it look now?

[Renegade]

+ is positive move

- is negative move

/ is fifty/fifty


how does it look now?

I still don't like these two:

Ducky votes you is a minus.

Mesk votes ducky is a +.

[bakermir]

Ugh yes I am confused. Hold on

Half of these + and / are goofy.

Mesk and Auwt put ds at L1 in the first 12 hours is a null?

Ducky votes you is a minus?

Is this coming from the Zedus "anyone who disagrees with me I scumread" school of thought?

Mesk votes ducky is a +? Lmao.

Delete the italics.

mesk and auwt puts ds at L1 is (-) NEGATIVE

what the fuck am i really this misunderstood

[bakermir]

I still don't like these two:

Ducky votes you is a minus.

Mesk votes ducky is a +.

ducky votes me is a minus 100%, their pattern of pocket x/paint y/pocket z/paint y without a basis when the votes were on auwt/ds only shows they were either not real with their auwt vote or their auwt vote was opportunistic. they have provided their townlock on MM which i have proven it to be contradictory with some of their posts.

mesk voting ducky instead of DS is a + from my view because i as gambino believe ducky is the scum here with their way of playing.


i am about to check on the post naz is showing now

[bakermir]

look at this post: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post884340 (post 851 if the link breaks)





i'm not saying ur scum because of ur read on duck but did u ignore post 851 ??

i didnt ignore, i have provided two of his quotes after that post showing his comments that are contradictory to what he is trying to represent there.


also I like that response he is getting from mm right after ducky starting to vote varcron and pocket mm:

If you mean "going offline", that's in my plans ;)

And I'm not appealing to your ego, I'm stating things as they are. I've learnt about the beautiful concept of scum range in champs, and I think it applies to you a lot.

ducky is heavily egocentric scum who is trolling all of us. now i dont know any champs but this playstyle is in the scum range from my experience. their gameplay changed after the brutalizer event rest of d1. they are continuing the same game play entire d2. the only thing missing is them saying "fuck it" and hammering people. obviously no one else gonna do that on this site except zedus. however, there is same obnoxious, opportunistic and deceiving scum mentality here and i am not giving up this time to bunch of scums trolling me