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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    I really don't believe Mike and Mesk to ever be wolf here. Mike does have a small portion of Virus equity only because of the way a 3p works in this setup, what I mean by this is it's very easy to appear town and read the game like a town as a sole 3p. It's essentially the same thing as being town, you don't know who anybody is, and you hunt wolves to blend in. But if Mike is Virus here I believe he dies to wolves either tonight or tomorrow, so he made his chances of winning if he's virus very small due to him being pretty much town for everyone.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    The most tragic irony seems to be that if I say you're a virus, the virus kills you.
    Did you call MM Virus ??
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    And even though they're my most likely candidate for a blink partner and it'd probably be DMs requested lynch, I dont think I'd feel comfortable going for it. This has seemed like an attempt to push the wagon in that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    but I'm still pretty sure he was town.
    If this is true then the Virus is a moron. They need to be hunting wolfs. not town. If DM is town not Wolf then who is your wolf team and who is your virus from your POV???

    I like Blinks push on me about being Virus. At lest he has reasons. Other than DM coming into today calling me Virus for no reason. I can assure you all I am town. I would never be this open and townie as a Virus. As blink pointed out I basically put a bit target on my back and would be ageist my own win con.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If this is true then the Virus is a moron. They need to be hunting wolfs. not town. If DM is town not Wolf then who is your wolf team and who is your virus from your POV???

    I like Blinks push on me about being Virus. At lest he has reasons. Other than DM coming into today calling me Virus for no reason. I can assure you all I am town. I would never be this open and townie as a Virus. As blink pointed out I basically put a bit target on my back and would be ageist my own win con.
    I don't think you're anything except town at this point.

    Does a Blink/Varcron/Zedus team make sense to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I don't think you're anything except town at this point.

    Does a Blink/Varcron/Zedus team make sense to you?
    Yes that is a possible world. But Blink is so dang townie. I don't know if I can ever trust blink after Day 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Yes that is a possible world. But Blink is so dang townie. I don't know if I can ever trust blink after Day 2.
    Zedus has been in every World Except for Blink DM Var. how does that world look to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Zedus has been in every World Except for Blink DM Var. how does that world look to you?
    I was thinking about Gyr Blink Var but I don't think that is a world because I believe there is a Virus between Blink or Gyr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I was thinking about Gyr Blink Var but I don't think that is a world because I believe there is a Virus between Blink or Gyr.
    I'm just wary of it just because I know how Gyrlander can play scum. He might have his vote on Blink so he can kick it over to someone else later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    What do you mean?
    So many people have been scum reading him whos left to be his partners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    So many people have been scum reading him whos left to be his partners.
    What I have not liked is his town read on me. the excuss he uses. it is more feeling than any reason. yet his posts are all reasons not feelings. That is just what I am getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    So many people have been scum reading him whos left to be his partners.
    I feel the same. It's odd that Zedus has been pushed from every direction, except perhaps Blinks. But now he's being elected as a lynch today.
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    I am scared to lynch him in case he flips town but on the same note I am scared to let him live if he is Wolf or Virus. If they Killed you last night I was going to go in lynch happy on blink. I am paranoid that you where not attacked by either Wolfs or Virus. I thought for sure you would have been the virus hit when I saw wolfs did not hit you.

    So my lynch target is either you or blink. But I do not want to lynch you and you flip town. If you both are WvV then GG town wins but if you both are TvT GG town lost. So I am at a loss at this point.

    Is it bad to Sleep here and let Virus and wolfs kill me tonight lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post

    MartinGG99
    Mesk514
    Mike


    Gyrlander

    Zedus
    blinkskater


    This is where I'm at personally.
    I agree with thoses reads. they make sence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I am scared to lynch him in case he flips town but on the same note I am scared to let him live if he is Wolf or Virus. If they Killed you last night I was going to go in lynch happy on blink. I am paranoid that you where not attacked by either Wolfs or Virus. I thought for sure you would have been the virus hit when I saw wolfs did not hit you.

    So my lynch target is either you or blink. But I do not want to lynch you and you flip town. If you both are WvV then GG town wins but if you both are TvT GG town lost. So I am at a loss at this point.

    Is it bad to Sleep here and let Virus and wolfs kill me tonight lol.
    I think you explained your own paranoid in the same paragraph. Blink knows what optics are and he was already losing your support at some points yesterday. A dead Frinckles means he gets turbolynched. They also needed to be aiming for a Vigilante at the time, who excellently shot Varcron. (for some reason.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    But thats also why I'd prefer Blink over Zedus here. I feel much more confident about his lynch.
    Im not sure if that reasoning can be applied to its fullest extent as it can be in other games. Here's a few reasons:

    - If DM is scum with Zedus, then litterally no one is going to help him, since DM's plan was to act fairly tunneled the whole game.

    -Even if DM isnt scum, while Zedus is, having just 1 ally to help them is going to look bad if they just get vigilante'd or poisoned later on. Especially if there's a no-yeet today because of them.

    -Virus may also believe they're a wolf and just trying to earn town points from yeeting them.

    I mightve not worded my thoughts here clearly, but in short I feel like the scum would not be inclined to not help zedus, if zedus is a wolf.

    So im kinda just stating here, that overall, I think the reasons people have for helping a wolf is very low.

    Same thing goes for virus, though I think Zedus is more likely to be wolf as that would make the poisonings a bit random, at least the first one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Im not sure if that reasoning can be applied to its fullest extent as it can be in other games. Here's a few reasons:

    - If DM is scum with Zedus, then litterally no one is going to help him, since DM's plan was to act fairly tunneled the whole game.

    -Even if DM isnt scum, while Zedus is, having just 1 ally to help them is going to look bad if they just get vigilante'd or poisoned later on. Especially if there's a no-yeet today because of them.

    -Virus may also believe they're a wolf and just trying to earn town points from yeeting them.

    I mightve not worded my thoughts here clearly, but in short I feel like the scum would not be inclined to not help zedus, if zedus is a wolf.

    So im kinda just stating here, that overall, I think the reasons people have for helping a wolf is very low.

    Same thing goes for virus, though I think Zedus is more likely to be wolf as that would make the poisonings a bit random, at least the first one.
    You're right that it's not impossible. I'm just saying I'm much more confident on a Blink lynch here. At the very least, he's been pushed by so few people here.

    As for the virus killing, they do appear random. There is a fringe theory that perhaps it could be you but I'm not sure if that checks out. MM and DM both know how to play Mafia and communicate a point. I think they were taken out before they could be voices for the town. I'm also appalled that I wasn't killed by the virus if that's the case. :[
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I think you explained your own paranoid in the same paragraph. Blink knows what optics are and he was already losing your support at some points yesterday. A dead Frinckles means he gets turbolynched. They also needed to be aiming for a Vigilante at the time, who excellently shot Varcron. (for some reason.)
    I disagree with you here. I don't think mikes town read of me ever faltered day 2. There was always mikes virus read on me, and i'm sure that still stands but Mike knows i'm not a wolf here, you actually pushing this world so heavily and not considering other worlds where I could be town is actually pretty telling of your alignment and i'm sure Mike will pick up on this. !Scum blink would need Frinckles lynched because Day 2 Frinckles was my only opposition. Going into day 3 Frinckles would still be !scum blinks opposition. I'm still considering and building worlds where you could be town. The further we delve into the day though, the more desperate you seem to promote the world blink can never be town here. While I must say you disregard Mesk, Mike, Gyr's thoughts on me being t own still and try to persuade them that I'm only ever scum.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Read. I need halp.
    bisshh my dyslexic ass can only read so fast
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    Can the vigi just claim and make my life easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Can the vigi just claim and make my life easy
    Well I already walked Blink away from possibly fakeclaiming that so, sure they should probably out.

    I don't think DM was Vig, Zedus or Martin would be toast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post

    MartinGG99
    Mesk514
    Mike


    Gyrlander

    Zedus
    blinkskater


    This is where I'm at personally.
    I had a list on my computer, it wa something like

    Towniest
    Frinckles
    Mike
    Dark Magician
    Gyrlander
    Blink
    Zedus
    Scummiest

    Presuming I haven't forgotten anybody.

    Blink is kinda TBD. Like legitimately the only reason I have him down there is these thoughts:

    -I dont think scum would make 1-for-1 exchange with Bakermir. Heck, a lot of the stuff bakermir was scummy for was his (i think he said) "WIFOM soup" and incsonsistencies. If he was an easy misyeet for digging his own grave, why did blink just thunderdome it? Seems like a bad exchange. He couldve let it hang over to D3 if we had a no-yeet / sleep and drag town discussion and distract it.

    -At the same time, im not really experience and I dont really know high-level plays (this is only my 4th game across all websites). This makes me doubt the thunder-dome as scum WIFOM

    -Frinckles just scum reading blink here is also a reason since he was right about bakermir being town.

    Which is a really long winded-way of saying:

    The only thing i think we have against blink is the thunder-dome. But I just feel doubt pulling me in opposite directions here about him.

    I would feel much more comfortable confronting a player I played before witg (and may be as experienced as me) which is Zedus here. I dont have much doubt in my read on him.

    So I would like to yeet Zedus over Blink here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Well I already walked Blink away from possibly fakeclaiming that so, sure they should probably out.

    I don't think DM was Vig, Zedus or Martin would be toast.
    You didn't walk blink away from claiming anything
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP LEAVING ME OUT OF YOUR READS. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
    DO YOU NOT THINK ABOUT ME?
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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    I think Blink pushed Martin for two reasons:

    1. We had alternative lynches that could have gotten traction: Mike, Varcron, Renegade were all viable.

    2. Bakermir was a doctor, a second one at that. You can’t get much higher priority for a scum kill, its textbook.

    I agree that the primary thing against Blink is the thunderdome, but he hadn't done much before that and now he's forced to defend himself all day.

    Then, I would ask, what do we have against most people here? What do we have to consider Gyrlander, Mesk or even yourself scum? We have two people at the bottom of the list and I'm gonna go with the person who thunderdomed a doc.
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