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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Blink, you haven't spoken to me once this game. I hope you know that.

    I also wouldn't be surprised if Frinckles is scum and that's why he defended bakermir.

    Zedus, what the fuck was that hammer, my guy? you were the one who was all like LAST ONE TO HAMMER ON TOWN IS SCUM.... soooo
    I know. I was preoccupied with baker.

    I did make a post to you telling you sorry but i can't let baker slide.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Its day 3 the strongman is likley gone, and doesn't really matter because there are never 3 doctors.
    You're saying the strong-man is gone but how can we tell? Just because its the "optimal" play or something?

    Players often have a limiting factor and that is themselves, and sometimes have weird meta or styles.

    And strong-man DOES matter. See the OoO if strong-man is used. Don't just think "it prevents protection":

    Quote Originally Posted by OoO
    OoO
    Strongman Kill -- Strongman kill time
    White Mage
    Virus infection
    Hunter/Wolf Spirit Kill -- Normal kill time
    Investigative Results
    Last will Publications
    White Mage doesn't occur in time to heal (hence that's why Strongman bypasses protection) but it also happens before the Hunter kill action occurs, as well as the virus infection. Virus would have to use a mass-murder ability on the wolf target or just SK attack one one of the wolves in order to infect them. With strong man, the virus SK targeting the Wolves' kill target doesn't get them infected because the target isn't infected when the wolves eat them. Finally, it prevents a vigilante shot if the kill target is a vigilante because the strong-man forces the wolf kill to happen first, not simultaneously.

    Why are you trying to press the idea that it doesn't exist?
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    I'm still very sad about Frinckles giving up and voting bakermir. I'm also considering to kill him just because of that. Plus his citizen claim.
    Tell me what the part about his citizen claim at the end means?
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    I know. I was preoccupied with baker.

    I did make a post to you telling you sorry but i can't let baker slide.
    To be fair, you found yourself lucky if you're scum. Before you even appeared he was talking about having evidence against me.... No bueno. I can't move.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Tell me what the part about his citizen claim at the end means?
    You act like TPR Frinckles wouldn't claim Citizen as a last minute effort to have Vigilante not shoot him if scum!bakermir happened. I'd probably do the same as scum.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    like I said, from the point of view of a virus trying to 2 for 1 that bakermir flip means a vigilante usually shoots you. (If possible)

    I'm actually wondering what the vigilante was thinking when he made that shot. Not in a bad way, just curious to the thought process. Varcron was definitely scummy but there was such a contrast in Blink V Baker to pass up.
    I don't see any valid reason why a vigilante would shoot a Surefire Lynch for the next day.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Why are you trying to press the idea that it doesn't exist?
    Actually, why is anyone suggesting it doesn't exist / has been used? It wasn't just blink:

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Actually, Mafia has a strongman hit tonight don't they?
    Some others might've mentioned the mechanic too, but I can't recall anyone else right now.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    You're saying the strong-man is gone but how can we tell? Just because its the "optimal" play or something?

    Players often have a limiting factor and that is themselves, and sometimes have weird meta or styles.

    And strong-man DOES matter. See the OoO if strong-man is used. Don't just think "it prevents protection":



    White Mage doesn't occur in time to heal (hence that's why Strongman bypasses protection) but it also happens before the Hunter kill action occurs, as well as the virus infection. Virus would have to use a mass-murder ability on the wolf target or just SK attack one one of the wolves in order to infect them. With strong man, the virus SK targeting the Wolves' kill target doesn't get them infected because the target isn't infected when the wolves eat them. Finally, it prevents a vigilante shot if the kill target is a vigilante because the strong-man forces the wolf kill to happen first, not simultaneously.

    Why are you trying to press the idea that it doesn't exist?
    Because that is what i believe to be true.

    I've been a wolf here before in the setup and we debated for a long time about the strongman kill.

    You guys don't have to believe me but the general consensus was the use it up early because the chance of losing it outweighs the chance of using it. So I guess I'm speaking from experience.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Because that is what i believe to be true.

    I've been a wolf here before in the setup and we debated for a long time about the strongman kill.

    You guys don't have to believe me but the general consensus was the use it up early because the chance of losing it outweighs the chance of using it. So I guess I'm speaking from experience.
    I'm not going to let you open wolf yourself into a place that sows doubt in your lynch. Instead, ill offer an alternative that I offer all scum, do some work for me and find scum.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    You act like TPR Frinckles wouldn't claim Citizen as a last minute effort to have Vigilante not shoot him if scum!bakermir happened. I'd probably do the same as scum.
    Idk what that was for on your end, but the way Gyr said that like that seems to cast.doubt he believes you are cit
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    I think I know who the Vigi is, and I don't think it's Frinckles. It seems like Frinckles is trying to bait out the Vigi. I don't like it.
    -vote Frinckles
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I'm not going to let you open wolf yourself into a place that sows doubt in your lynch. Instead, ill offer an alternative that I offer all scum, do some work for me and find scum.
    Lol then our conversations are over.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    What... If i was scum there i shoot you so fast i wouldnt even need scum chat.
    Scum wouldn't aim for me. It's easy to twist my defense of Bakermir into something else, and scum would have no reason to doubt my citizen claim when they could aim for Vigilante.

    Renegade had been barely pushing this game, despite being active and baited you guys out. He was a good Mafia shot for Vigilante/Virus, even I admit that.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    I am Virus.
    No surprise there, let's be honest.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedus View Post
    How can I know shaman will be so fucking scummy? Also, you did the same thing, why you asking me?
    I didn't hammer anyone. I put them at L1 despite trying to defend them the entire time. You voted with no reason.
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Scum wouldn't aim for me. It's easy to twist my defense of Bakermir into something else, and scum would have no reason to doubt my citizen claim when they could aim for Vigilante.

    Renegade had been barely pushing this game, despite being active and baited you guys out. He was a good Mafia shot for Vigilante/Virus, even I admit that.
    You don't need to try and convince a "scum" why bother?

    If the virus has a brain you're probally poisioned. ;)
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    First post you direct at me? How dare you.
    Would you prefer I do my normal Gyrlander routine?
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    You don't need to try and convince a "scum" why bother?

    If the virus has a brain you're probally poisioned. ;)
    If you're gonna quote me, I'm gonna give you a response.

    If you're gonna fill the thread with disinformation, I'm going to correct it as well. ;)
    (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I didn't hammer anyone. I put them at L1 despite trying to defend them the entire time. You voted with no reason.
    Nice defense when you put them at L1 knowing scum can hammer at any time way before EOD it's just as bad man lol.
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Yes please. I'm not scum this game so I'll actually enjoy it.
    I've been teeter-tottering with the way I read you since yesterday. I would agree you're not into your normal scum play & willing to maybe consider you part of town core.

    But not as much as I would consider Mike.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Zedus, Dark Magic, Blink, & Frinckles....

    ONLY THREE CAN BE SCUM
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I've been teeter-tottering with the way I read you since yesterday. I would agree you're not into your normal scum play & willing to maybe consider you part of town core.

    But not as much as I would consider Mike.
    If it makes a difference in what happens with me today I will vote with you and Mike. That should mean something if you are Town
    This isn't where i parked my car.....

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I see you too townread Martin.
    &&&&& whatcha gonna do about it
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    If it makes a difference in what happens with me today I will vote with you and Mike. That should mean something if you are Town
    It most certainly does.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedus View Post
    How can I know shaman will be so fucking scummy? Also, you did the same thing, why you asking me?
    "hammer" refers to being the last voter that puts a person at majority vote count and gets yeeted

    Also, I quite disagree with you saying Frinckles here is scummy for voting him. He presented a pervasive defense of bakermir, and he only allowed the yeet to go through (I suspect) because it would've dragged onto day 3 if there was just 5 or 6 votes on him and he never got yeeted. Scum could just dance around that distracting the town. Frinckles just wanted the issue resolved and push on scum-hunting with the information we get from that. Not to mention, putting him at L-1 was a very lucrative offer for the scum. And lo and behold, two minutes after Frinckles voted him you came out and hammered him.

    Normally, if wolf chat was permanent I would suspect this as day chat coordination but mafia have night-chat only. I don't think the events of D2 could've been expected for and coordinated for such. You're scummy as heck for that. That 2 minute reaction time shows you were paying attentively to day chat and just waiting for someone to vote.

    Tbh kinda seems like you're caught wolf here and just trying to fake spew something about Frinckles here, because that argument and suggestion that Frinckles is scummy here is weak as heck.
    A.K.A "That One Idiot"

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    Re: S-FM Spirits II (Ongoing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Zedus, what the fuck was that hammer, my guy? you were the one who was all like LAST ONE TO HAMMER ON TOWN IS SCUM.... soooo
    That was like 5:00 in Moscow. I awakened by screams under my window. I seen some fight, nearly 4-5 ppl involved. First thing I did is called police. I am glad that that was just some drunk idiots, noone hurted seriously or killed. But my sleep was broken. I lie down, but I cannot sleep again, my head was like cracked with hammer with this rude awakening. I went too see what's going on here. First thing I seen is 6 votes on Baker with 4 of them townie for me. I said for myself "fuck it" and eneded that shit, push my PC off and go back to sleep, while policemen packaged that drunk guys under my window. Then silence comes, I slept for 8 hours nearly after.

    Well, that was fault, as we see now, but it's not my personal fault. Whole town voted him. Btw only one known maf (Varcron) doesn't voted him, I need to notice that, maybe that is mafia strat and we need to look at non-voters. Not sure.

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