S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

If you could have any TPR in the game what role would you choose

Vigilante.

If you could have any alignment in the game what alignment would you choose

Neutral.

If you could have any scum role in the game which role would you choose

The scum architect, because it'd let me psychologically torture random players for a day and night cycle.

If you could have a pizza which pineapple do you choose

No pineapple. Hawaiian is a sin.

Who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf

Most people.

Year of the Dragon or Ripto's Rage

MUSHU.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Sorry, I missed one. Coke.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Yes, the Huns are on thier way.

LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS, TO DEFEAT.....THE HUNS. DID THEY SEND ME DAUGHTERS, WHEN I ASKED FOR SONS!

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

S-FM Lembird Oshay
S-FM Billigan Holbird
S-FM Gollert Twissell
S-FM Jan Korvin
S-FM Rotholfo Goncales
S-FM Lois Francklyn
S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Marlwyn Janson
S-FM Edoua Maije
S-FM Joha Schtilzt

S-FM Bart Pilfter
S-FM Jiles Carballo
S-FM Vlädislow Kennt
S-FM Fred Attlebish

Engagement questions - everyone respond so I can judge you:

If you could have any TPR in the game what role would you choose
If you could have any alignment in the game what alignment would you choose
If you could have any scum role in the game which role would you choose
If you could have a pizza which pineapple do you choose
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf
Year of the Dragon or Ripto's Rage
Pepsi or Coke

We don't choose our roles, so quack is the point of asking about this?

Invisible, tasteless and absolutely tiny pineapple

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

We don't choose our roles, so quack is the point of asking about this?

Invisible, tasteless and absolutely tiny pineapple

Why are you so hesitant to answer? They're just silly questions.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

If I were Vigilante (which I might be) I would be shooting you tonight for not fucking doing what I tell you to. This is not a difficult task to decision-make about. Stop your self-righteous shit. Stop posting in blue and be a town member, or die. The town will be swifter at this than the Mafia btw.

Your non-sense is useless, what has it done?

I sense anger in you. Why is that so? He's just displaying beautiful colors, as far as I know...

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Why are you so hesitant to answer? They're just silly questions.

I will ask the question with another point of view.

Why would I answer? They're just silly questions.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

We don't choose our roles, so quack is the point of asking about this?

Invisible, tasteless and absolutely tiny pineapple

GIVE ME MY TOWN POINTS

[S-FM Quinne]

GreeeeenLIKE THIS IS ANSWERS

[B]

Engagement questions - everyone respond so I can judge you:

If you could have any TPR in the game what role would you choose
Jailor
If you could have any alignment in the game what alignment would you choose
Neutral
If you could have any scum role in the game which role would you choose Kidnapper
If you could have a pizza which pineapple do you choose Frozen
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf Pigs
Year of the Dragon or Ripto's Rage Yes
Pepsi or Coke Pepsi

[S-FM Quinne]

GIVE ME MY TOWN POINTS

TOWN POINTS FOR SHOUTING

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

TOWN POINTS FOR SHOUTING

FINALLY

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Why are you so hesitant to answer? They're just silly questions.

That's what I said before you guys jumped on me lol.

On a more serious note though, how is everyone today?

[S-FM Quinne]

That's what I said before you guys jumped on me lol.

On a more serious note though, how is everyone today?

ANGRY

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

ANGRY

Excellent

My mind is still boggled with Lois right now.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Teal guy REALLY REALLY REALLY wants to stand out, fellow cosmonauts. REALLY stand out.

Indeed. Why would Mafia want to stand out, though? And why did everyone jump on him for writing in teal?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Indeed. Why would Mafia want to stand out, though? And why did everyone jump on him for writing in teal?

Because it's annoying.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Indeed. Why would Mafia want to stand out, though? And why did everyone jump on him for writing in teal?

I'm assuming to get a reaction from him because that is the only thing that makes sense.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

And some players like to do things like this or make charts as a crutch to gain town cred

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

You're playing like it's your first time as a power role, or as a novice Mafia.

Feel free to pick it for me.

Now why in the world would you say this? BAD. Quack you

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

I think your question lacks context for any answer other than a tongue in cheek response for the sake if response.

Where am I in this context? What do the choices of staying and moving imply? These are the questions I'd ask myself to determine what to do next.

But if you really want a reply, I don't think you're asking this question in good faith and I'm inclined to death tunnel you from here on out.

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo View Post

Got one

@S-FM Jiles Carballo please tell me they aren't tunneling you for having said "interesting"
PLEASE

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

What's wrong with me saying that?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Now why in the world would you say this? BAD. Quack you

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

@S-FM Jiles Carballo please tell me they aren't tunneling you for having said "interesting"
PLEASE

Wait, Mulan is in my (checks notes) blue/null part of my list. Vote someone in the red pls

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Now why in the world would you say this? BAD. Quack you

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

@S-FM Jiles Carballo please tell me they aren't tunneling you for having said "interesting"
PLEASE

They are (well, only Lois is), that's why you see later on I specifically said

My brain is melting right now that he thinks the use of one word is scum indicative.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Because it's annoying.

uh not really

And some players like to do things like this or make charts as a crutch to gain town cred

Some people type in bolded color letters all the time to gain towncred? That's unheard of, and as you can see yourself, it's achieving the exact opposite.
Hey, am I town yet?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Speaking of which

-vote S-FM Bart Pilfter

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

What's wrong with me saying that?

That you'd need to pressure me at this point in time with non-pressure.

To rectify some action you deemed incorrect/wolfy. At this point in time. When if I was in fact wolfy, you would not give me the opportunity to change the optics of it since we still have so much time?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

uh not really


Some people type in bolded color letters all the time to gain towncred? That's unheard of, and as you can see yourself, it's achieving the exact opposite.
Hey, am I town yet?

You're in bird gang. You're as confirmed town as them come.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

What's wrong with me saying that?

EVERYTHING:

You look like a veteran player, and you're calling people out as potential TPRs and bringing this on the table. You're even asking them to "choose" between being scum and being TPR, increasing the odds of bringing that discussion on the table. Discussing TPRs on D1 is crap, ESPECIALLY IN A FLIPLESS SETUP.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

...flipless setup? Oh lordy what did I sign for this time

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

EVERYTHING:

You look like a veteran player, and you're calling people out as potential TPRs and bringing this on the table. You're even asking them to "choose" between being scum and being TPR, increasing the odds of bringing that discussion on the table. Discussing TPRs on D1 is crap, ESPECIALLY IN A FLIPLESS SETUP.

They're probably trying to get information to see who seem scummier than the rest in an angleshoot sort of way. The idea of discussing TPR's though on a technically D0 is an awful idea though.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

You're in bird gang. You're as confirmed town as them come.

Quaaaaaack...

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

...flipless setup? Oh lordy what did I sign for this time

Uh oh. Do your civic duty, birds, and check the setup. There's one Geneticist who can check dead bodies for their roles. That... is all. So TPR hunting is quack.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Quaaaaaack...

Your avatar does not match your words. Imposter? Lets hope not, for the towns sake

[S-FM Quinne]

...flipless setup? Oh lordy what did I sign for this time

I. SAID THIS. YOU LOONEY

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Your avatar does not match your words. Imposter? Lets hope not, for the towns sake

It ain't easy being green.

What's your opinion on the death tunnel from Lois?

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

S-FM Lembird Oshay
S-FM Billigan Holbird
S-FM Gollert Twissell
S-FM Jan Korvin
S-FM Rotholfo Goncales
S-FM Lois Francklyn
S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Marlwyn Janson
S-FM Edoua Maije
S-FM Joha Schtilzt

S-FM Bart Pilfter
S-FM Jiles Carballo
S-FM Vlädislow Kennt
S-FM Fred Attlebish

Engagement questions - everyone respond so I can judge you:

If you could have any TPR in the game what role would you choose
If you could have any alignment in the game what alignment would you choose
If you could have any scum role in the game which role would you choose
If you could have a pizza which pineapple do you choose
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf
Year of the Dragon or Ripto's Rage
Pepsi or Coke

Why did you put me in the town category early on, by the way? I believe I did nothing of any real significance unti very recently. I want to make sure #birdquack is quack! and not quaaaack.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

EVERYTHING:

You look like a veteran player, and you're calling people out as potential TPRs and bringing this on the table. You're even asking them to "choose" between being scum and being TPR, increasing the odds of bringing that discussion on the table. Discussing TPRs on D1 is crap, ESPECIALLY IN A FLIPLESS SETUP.

Right, Veteran mistake. I'm so sorry.

They're probably trying to get information to see who seem scummier than the rest in an angleshoot sort of way. The idea of discussing TPR's though on a technically D0 is an awful idea though.

You seem to not understand what angleshooting is.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Your avatar does not match your words. Imposter? Lets hope not, for the towns sake

It's a bird, do you not recognize your brothers?

AND ALL BIRDS CAN QUACK
QUACK LIVES MATTERS!!!

[S-FM Quinne]

Your avatar does not match your words. Imposter? Lets hope not, for the towns sake

YOU CLAIMED TO NOT READ the setup

NoW you Claim To Have Read it by Suggesting Imposter!!!! arge WHY U LIE

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Right, Veteran mistake. I'm so sorry.

You seem to not understand what angleshooting is.

100 % trustable, right. I have my eyes on you. And casually my vote, too.

I do agree that you weren't angleshooting, though. That was a bit random from Jiles.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

100 % trustable, right. I have my eyes on you. And casually my vote, too.

I do agree that you weren't angleshooting, though. That was a bit random from Jiles.

Idk those question didn't seem to natural to me

Then again that's just me

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Day one lasts 72h. Lynching is disabled for the first 24 hours on D1, with that period being reserved for discussing the lynch type.

why

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Harley Quinn also pointed out and let me know that the setup is also nightkill-less which now I can make the case for advocating for a majority lynch as well.

There are only three or four kills on the scum factions. Which means town is left with a majority even if we never lynched or executed.

We would just need to weigh the risks vs the rewards of continual no-lynching, and also evaluate how patient this town is. At this point, I don't think town is very patient and also not engaged enough.

GET OUTTA HERE

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo

My sense of common sense tells me to trust that statistic, and if such a statistic exists, it'll probably be better than the chance we are right about who to vote day 1.

I'm really glad we had good conversation earlier, and now this is just the cherry on top. I haven't started forming a solid list yet but I'll plan on getting around to it later today. Are there any players you see who have indicated they are not likely to be Mafia?

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

I'm asking you to move beyond egoistic plays of clamoring for ill-deserved town points and instead actually solve whether or not other players are genuinely solving or not.

Talking about voting preferences just isn't alignment indicative. Expecting to get points because you shoot for the moon saying one vote system is better than the other is nonsensical. Do you beleive Mafia would argue for a different voye system, or make arguments on this topic in bad faith? Its a rhetorical question - no. So you don't get Town points for this topic.

I'm asking you again to instead start looking at the game through other players perspectives. Would they do this as Mafia? COULD they say this kind of thing as Mafia? No? Okay, start making your Town pile.

What you're doing now isn't solving. But I still want to beleive you're Town. I'm asking you to solve instead of whatever it is that you're doing. Can you follow my train of thought here and does that make sense to you?

Lois, do you think you're gaining townpoints for this or are you really doing it for solving?
This is too aggressive for my liking. Too out of the blue. Gollert did nothing wrong by discussing the vote system we're going to use this game (it's literally the point of this part of D1), and expecting to gain townpoints from it if the discussion you create is good is natural for any alignment.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Why did you put me in the town category early on, by the way? I believe I did nothing of any real significance unti very recently. I want to make sure #birdquack is quack! and not quaaaack.

.....

GIVE ME THE TOWN POINTS

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

why

At least we won't have 3000 posts like Insanity

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Idk those question didn't seem to natural to me

Then again that's just me

That's not what angleshooting is though...

What's your read on Marlwyn?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

YOU STOLE FIZZY LIFTING DRINKS

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

Lol Jiles still thinks he's not outted Mafia

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

That's not what angleshooting is though...

What's your read on Marlwyn?

They're fairly aggressive, they were also a townread up until their posts started getting questionable.

For example, discussing TPRs and calling someone scum due to their ideologies not meeting up. With that being said my current stance on them is Scummy but not 100% scum