S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I already want to comment on which of the 3 I believe to be scum

But I wanna see the last 2 claims first.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Psst_

The architect unit is fairly obvious at this point_. If the I can figure it out[,] then surely other players can as well_

Was just claimed lol

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Psst_

The architect unit is fairly obvious at this point_. If the I can figure it out[,] then surely other players can as well_

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Never mind the claim already happened and stole the thunder_

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

How did other units not deduce this_[?]

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

How did other units not deduce this_[?]

How did you? Sounds like a lie tbh.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

There's only one answer to that question btw.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

@S-FM Magellan Core

Can the ship possibly replace the conscious unit of Goncales[,] or find a way to reach the unit remotely_[?]

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

@S-FM Magellan Core

Can the ship possibly replace the conscious unit of Goncales[,] or find a way to reach the unit remotely_[?]

No replacements. He comes back or we lynch him.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Also answer Mulans question. How did you deduce the architect

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

My role cannot even be counterclaimed. Mafia would be throwing at that point and they'd need to claim they have a chat with another Mafia member. Both of which are tied into CC's currently.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

There's only one answer to that question btw.

How did you? Sounds like a lie tbh.

This unit literally claimed it here_

No you stupid ass. I'm going to sleep.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

This unit literally claimed it here_

Hey you found the one correct answer. Carry on.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I don't get it. lol

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I don't get it. lol

It was my only denial that I was Ensign and hint that I'd be architect.

In my chat with Vlad I made it intentionally difficult to decipher who I was.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

It was my only denial that I was Ensign and hint that I'd be architect.

In my chat with Vlad I made it intentionally difficult to decipher who I was.

But you could have been anything else. How was that an architect soft? I just read it as TPR soft

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

But you could have been anything else. How was that an architect soft? I just read it as TPR soft

True. I guess he just pieced that there was an Architect as a TPR (and believes Vlad over Jan?)

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Holy shit guys i have the worst headache. Anyway i don't have much time since i have a party to attend to. But i want to come in and state i'm Ensign. (who would've guessed)

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Hey you found the one correct answer. Carry on.

It fits in with the notes behavioral patterns as well_. This unit has a large preference for the Vlad unit over the Jan unit[,] seeks for validation <a natural thing for an architect to do as the architect would not want to place unresponsive units into an architect channel>[,] and it especially fits with the shenanigans between this unit and the Oshay units_

The I stands by the fact that there was indeed something more to you_, Perhaps in another reality this unit really was a third party_. But the I concedes that you are most likely with the Magellan_

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Holy shit guys i have the worst headache. Anyway i don't have much time since i have a party to attend to. But i want to come in and state i'm Ensign. (who would've guessed)

Just the lizard remains

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

What would be the collective response to shooting Quinne tonight_

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

It fits in with the notes behavioral patterns as well_. This unit has a large preference for the Vlad unit over the Jan unit[,] seeks for validation <a natural thing for an architect to do as the architect would not want to place unresponsive units into an architect channel>[,] and it especially fits with the shenanigans between this unit and the Oshay units_

The I stands by the fact that there was indeed something more to you_, Perhaps in another reality this unit really was a third party_. But the I concedes that you are most likely with the Magellan_

This is a very satisfactory read. Good job.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Holy shit guys i have the worst headache. Anyway i don't have much time since i have a party to attend to. But i want to come in and state i'm Ensign. (who would've guessed)

We may just turbo this if scum isn't raising the white-flag.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Ok, let the robotrip begin....

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

What would be the collective response to shooting Quinne tonight_

This unit is definitely not sheriff[,] there is no previous evidence to support that theory_

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

We can literally just alternate lynching in Coroners/Sheriffs & clear like two other slots and probably win. So, what -- five days /w Vigilante kill and me being cleared by Sheriffs (I would appear green.) Makes it impossible for Maf to win.

Even neutral evils wouldn't sway us off course.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;873919]
Quinne - Sheriff
twat-Nick - Sheriff
Mulan - Architect

Jan - Coronavirus
Vlad - Coronavirus

Wilbird - Cit
Lembird - Cit
Gollert - Cit
Holbird - Cit
Bart - Cit
Joha - Cit
Ed - Cit

Fred - vig

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Rotholo - ???

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

We may just turbo this if scum isn't raising the white-flag.

Pretty much, i doubt these days are gonna be lasting a long time.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Anyway sorry have to head out! people are arriving for dinner

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Anyway sorry have to head out! people are arriving for dinner

Place a vote if you can.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

This unit is definitely not sheriff[,] there is no previous evidence to support that theory_

There is a possibility of framer framing twat-Nick to appear as town is there not?

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

-vote S-FM Rotholfo Goncales

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

There is a possibility of framer framing twat-Nick to appear as town is there not?

Or GF could have claimed Sheriff.

Or Quinne wants us to believe that.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

There is a possibility of framer framing twat-Nick to appear as town is there not?

The Lois unit has an excellent point about this[,] if a unit claims the role that belongs to the user <in this context the user being Quinne>[,] why would the user use an investigation on the unit_[?] Is the unit not already against the collective for attempting to claim a fake action_[?]

The I also wonders why the Quinne unit waited so long to counter claim the Lois unit_

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

So, we'd lynch in Sheriffs today.

Coroners both check (and solve themselves with one announcing and the other person not announcing.)

We have the answer to who was the real sheriff and who was the real coroner.

gg

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

It'd also give us a Sheriff check on a lower townread/scumread from a real or fake sheriff to solve faster.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

The question is which is more likely? A powerwolf in twat-Nick claiming sheriff with the intent of being framed into town, or Quinne fakeclaiming sheriff and fakeclaiming an inno check on actual sheriff, after no room for another TPR exists with knowledge of architect being around?

Of course, they could both still be sheriff if Mulan is scum architect. Which also actually makes sense balance wise. 2 sheriffs but mafia can frame themselves into inno making sheriffs obsolete

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Ability: Minimally change a player's emotions, causing them to appear to be of an alignment of your choosing to investigative Roles. You can only do this twice per game, and the effect is permanent

Does this apply to coroner?

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

The I would buy in to the scum architect theory if Quinne were not so damn scummy_

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;874045]

Quinne - Sheriff
twat-Nick - Sheriff
Mulan - Architect

Jan - Coronavirus
Vlad - Coronavirus

Wilbird - Cit
Lembird - Cit
Gollert - Cit
Holbird - Cit
Bart - Cit
Joha - Cit
Ed - Cit

Fred - vig

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Rotholo - ???

At this point with me asking bart d1 about coroner...linked by Iron Gian I think...I am Coroner....dxm taking over....must go with it : )

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

The question is which is more likely? A powerwolf in twat-Nick claiming sheriff with the intent of being framed into town, or Quinne fakeclaiming sheriff and fakeclaiming an inno check on actual sheriff, after no room for another TPR exists with knowledge of architect being around?

Of course, they could both still be sheriff if Mulan is scum architect. Which also actually makes sense balance wise. 2 sheriffs but mafia can frame themselves into inno making sheriffs obsolete

I'm honestly 50/50 on them.

Quinne has not given me great vibes this game in all honesty. They've been radiating pro-town and then switching to this laid-back shitposting phase at random.

At the same time, I'm wondering if Nick really had some powerwolf RQ or if that's angle-shooting in itself.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

The I would buy in to the scum architect theory if Quinne were not so damn scummy_

Three investigative roles in a game where Mafia cannot kill. Wew.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

I'm honestly 50/50 on them.

Quinne has not given me great vibes this game in all honesty. They've been radiating pro-town and then switching to this laid-back shitposting phase at random.

At the same time, I'm wondering if Nick really had some powerwolf RQ or if that's angle-shooting in itself.

There is no unit meta enough to literally replace out to appear more towny_

Do not overanalyze_

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

In order of believability for me:

1) Mulan and Quinne are town. twat-Nick is framed scum. They get actual sheriff to waste a check, get confused by town reveal on Nick.

2) Mulan is scum framerchitect. Chooses to use architect ability instead of framer ability. Is now stuck using that, therefore pushing for sheriff lynches since they will eventually solve everything. I dont like this timeline. Quinne and twat-Nick are town

3) Mulan and twat-Nick are town, knowledge of architect exists. Quinne decides to cc twat-Nick while simultaneously clearing him. Whats the play here?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

There is no unit meta enough to literally replace out to appear more towny_

Do not overanalyze_

That's somewhat fair. The question then is what the fuck is Quinne doing with an inno check on their CC?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

That's somewhat fair. The question then is what the fuck is Quinne doing with an inno check on their CC?

This is what is so baffling to me

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Ah, godfather is immune to investigation. Does this apply to Coroner as well?

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

You're already on the kill list of the PoE but sure, I'll entertain.

1. It would be angleshooting to intentionally post when you know you're not supposed to in order to appear derpy right?
2. It does. Why the fuck do you think not angleshooting exists as a rule?
3. I'm not asking which MOD player says this, I'm asking when has this ever been said in the mod? By anyone, ever. Who has the time to do a train of consciousness in the, perhaps minute or two that exists during the day (while fourteen other people are talking?)
4. He said he is a veteran of the mod. Not offsite.

1. I think so.
2. No need to get offensive? I'm saying that him making this play as a veteran to make us believe he's a noob and believing we will think about the things you thought about and playing around it for little benefit in the end would require a lot of effort for very little potential results and benefits, which he would know if he were that good of a veteran.
3. Oh, ok. Idk, perhaps he spectated games here or something lol, or that he's lying to keep his anonymity secure (which is NAI).
4. Ok

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Why does Quinne have her vote on Lois if she has a town check on him? That doesn't exactly look good, he had all the time of the world to change his vote...

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Okay well. I'm not sure what else to do here then. We pick a sheriff to lynch, clarify who announces and who doesn't to coroner's and then win. I can even use my ability on Vlad again to constantly remind him NOT to announce. But he's kind of boring tbh.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

But seriously, neither of them announcing Jiles alignment is whack.