S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Walking through Lembird's line of reasoning, I believe Lembird to be scum as well. He is taking a hypocritical stance even though it's clear he entertains the probably that lois is town. I believe at the time of his vote, the majority reasoning of town was against Lois. He's bandwagoning against his town thoughts.

Now taking a look at the other trains, it makes me just a little more hesitant to conclude the Lembird is scum. Evils don't usually vote together, but in this setup, distancing is less of an issue, and there are also third party people. I town read everyone who is on a different train, leaving me thinking Jiles and Lembird are scum, and that means there is another 2 of the 4 people who haven't posted as scum as well.

Since 2/4 is greater than setup average [~5/15] I definitely can go along with a lynch on an AFK as well.

Scumread for defending myself and calling out a BS train, makes sense.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

fair

i never said I town read jiles
i can independently scum read lois and not townread jiles, don't act like those are mutually exclusive

also i like your new pfp

Pfp = profile picture?

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

if i didn't entertain the possibility that lois was a super misguided adversarial town,
what kind of town would i be?

Well, I also haven't seen you consider Jiles as the alternative and for someone capable in thought, you would definitely consider this alternative too. But you didn't need to did you? Just push your own little agenda on.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Pfp = profile picture?

Are you serious about yout scum read of the goo or not

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

There needs to be some serious clarification on Lois and AFKs. I'll be back once that happens.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Well, I also haven't seen you consider Jiles as the alternative and for someone capable in thought, you would definitely consider this alternative too. But you didn't need to did you? Just push your own little agenda on.

What do you mean by the "alternative"?

Bussing or?

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Well, I also haven't seen you consider Jiles as the alternative and for someone capable in thought, you would definitely consider this alternative too. But you didn't need to did you? Just push your own little agenda on.

its kinda wack that you aren't even entertaining the possibility that i could be town, and that somehow someway only jiles and me are scum, and no one who posted else is, and the remaining two scum are strictly within the group of afks?
maybe you should "open your mindset" and "consider other possibilities" as you once said

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

What else do you want me to say at this point? I've said my bit and you're probably irritated that you were in my scummish list.

Again, more defensive shit. And to top it off, saying I omgus you.

I'm the only player here, that I'm aware of, who watched the shenanigans with you and Lois to make reads around it and outside of it.

I wanted it to continue as annoying as it was, so that I could get information about other players. I kept asking "what do you take from this" and people give me caveman reads.

Situation is, a moron pointed you out and you've done nothing about it in turn. Prove me wrong.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Scumread for defending myself and calling out a BS train, makes sense.

Defending yourself vs scumreading the person voting you are two different things. Besides, I'm additionally voting you by the use of the word "interesting", and instead of justifying yourself in your use of that word you simply attack the argument by calling it names.

Writing, "interesting post" is an admission that you knew naught of what to write but also that you didn't care enough to consider it.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Are you serious about yout scum read of the goo or not

?

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo

I'm just on the phone and it was hard to type.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Defending yourself vs scumreading the person voting you are two different things. Besides, I'm additionally voting you by the use of the word "interesting", and instead of justifying yourself in your use of that word you simply attack the argument by calling it names.

Writing, "interesting post" is an admission that you knew naught of what to write but also that you didn't care enough to consider it.

do you seriously believe the "interesting" case?
you know, the "study" in it's "alpha or beta stage" that had zero evidence provided for what so ever?

Lol!

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

?

-vote S-FM Jiles Carballo

I'm just on the phone and it was hard to type.

All good family

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Defending yourself vs scumreading the person voting you are two different things. Besides, I'm additionally voting you by the use of the word "interesting", and instead of justifying yourself in your use of that word you simply attack the argument by calling it names.

Writing, "interesting post" is an admission that you knew naught of what to write but also that you didn't care enough to consider it.

I only switched to scum after one particular line that hinted I would be left to his mafia nightkill- but that's beside the point.

I forget the exact reason why I used the now infamous word "Interesting" but it was likely due to the reason that I found what he said either A. amusing, or B. misguided in some way to where I could only voice it with those two words.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

I only switched to scum after one particular line that hinted I would be left to his mafia nightkill- but that's beside the point.

I forget the exact reason why I used the now infamous word "Interesting" but it was likely due to the reason that I found what he said either A. amusing, or B. misguided in some way to where I could only voice it with those two words.

i know that i did it too right after reading it,
for irony's sake of course

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

its kinda wack that you aren't even entertaining the possibility that i could be town, and that somehow someway only jiles and me are scum, and no one who posted else is, and the remaining two scum are strictly within the group of afks?
maybe you should "open your mindset" and "consider other possibilities" as you once said

I've already entertained the possibility that you are town, however I find the others to be more townie than you are. That's right, I find Bart (teal guy) and Wilbird (bird gang) and Biligan Holbirld (green dragonfly) more townie than you. So by default the bit that I find you townie for (engaging a small bit in setup discussion with me) is thrown out the window.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

do you seriously believe the "interesting" case?
you know, the "study" in it's "alpha or beta stage" that had zero evidence provided for what so ever?

Lol!

Why are you putting so much investment in the reason and not the motive? Why would he say something like that, for example. Why would he push so hard off of THAT?

Who does this and why? You're literally jerking yourself off in the thread about data and studies. Those have nothing to do with this game.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

i know that i did it too right after reading it,
for irony's sake of course

You seem to be fence sitting yourself there. I like the term wall flower better.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

I only switched to scum after one particular line that hinted I would be left to his mafia nightkill- but that's beside the point.

I forget the exact reason why I used the now infamous word "Interesting" but it was likely due to the reason that I found what he said either A. amusing, or B. misguided in some way to where I could only voice it with those two words.

I found what exactly I called "Interesting"

I think your question lacks context for any answer other than a tongue in cheek response for the sake if response.

Where am I in this context? What do the choices of staying and moving imply? These are the questions I'd ask myself to determine what to do next.

But if you really want a reply, I don't think you're asking this question in good faith and I'm inclined to death tunnel you from here on out.

My question was partially to lure role info in however also if you look a few posts after you can probably notice a breadcrumb if you care for it.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

I found what exactly I called "Interesting"



My question was partially to lure role info in however also if you look a few posts after you can probably notice a breadcrumb if you care for it.

Which I believe set off the alarms of both Marlwyn and Lemi

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Why are you putting so much investment in the reason and not the motive? Why would he say something like that, for example. Why would he push so hard off of THAT?

Who does this and why? You're literally jerking yourself off in the thread about data and studies. Those have nothing to do with this game.

I mean, Mulan has a valid point.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Which I believe set off the alarms of both Marlwyn and Lemi

I don't follow what you're saying at all.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

I guess it's a good time to say that if Lembird Oshay is not scum, then I would believe it is probably Biligan then Vladislow or maybe possibly Jan Korvin who I don't really have a read on. I would suspect scum to have a diversity in attitudes.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I guess it's a good time to say that if Lembird Oshay is not scum, then I would believe it is probably Biligan then Vladislow or maybe possibly Jan Korvin who I don't really have a read on. I would suspect scum to have a diversity in attitudes.

I'll post my readslist in a moment when I'm a computer. But I had oshay cleared for some reason. Idr

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

I don't follow what you're saying at all.

I'll show you when I'm saying.

This wack a mole game is kind of funny when you can't do anything else at night

What do you think I mean by that?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

S-FM Marlwyn Janson

S-FM Marck Wilbird
S-FM Lois Francklyn
S-FM Gollert Twissell

S-FM Billigan Holbird
S-FM Lembird Oshay

S-FM Vlädislow Kennt

S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Jan Korvin

S-FM Bart Pilfter

S-FM Edoua Maije
S-FM Jiles Carballo


S-FM Rotholfo Goncales
S-FM Joha Schtilzt
S-FM Fred Attlebish

-------------------------

Oshay was cleared because of one or two posts that I felt had a town mindset behind them. Could be fabricated. I don't know, hence why he's lower.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

What's funny to think about: Three AFK players means that at least, there are two non-town playing at the moment.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

I'll show you when I'm saying.

What do you think I mean by that?

Alright you did it yourself, but basically you just either confirmed yourself as a non-essential role, but since even I saw it, you did it so obviously that I believe this was either your planned fake roleclaim or that you are a neutral, which would mean it's a fake roleclaim.

I believe you realize that citizens tank shots. You signaled there, early on in the day, that you are not a good nightkill target. Why would you do that? And the answer to that is because it is unimportant to you, or that because you are a neutral.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

S-FM Marlwyn Janson

S-FM Marck Wilbird
S-FM Lois Francklyn
S-FM Gollert Twissell

S-FM Billigan Holbird
S-FM Lembird Oshay

S-FM Vlädislow Kennt

S-FM Arnarld Quinne

S-FM Jan Korvin

S-FM Bart Pilfter

S-FM Edoua Maije
S-FM Jiles Carballo


S-FM Rotholfo Goncales
S-FM Joha Schtilzt
S-FM Fred Attlebish

-------------------------

Oshay was cleared because of one or two posts that I felt had a town mindset behind them. Could be fabricated. I don't know, hence why he's lower.

What is the teal color represent?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Also, there is one player in my town reads who needs to fucking do something worthwhile in day two or they'll plummet substantially.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

What is the teal color represent?

My looks for neutral.

and

Town power role players.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

My looks for neutral.

and

Town power role players.

If I come off as neutral it was only out of a desire to balance Mr. Cage. I'm a townie.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

Alright you did it yourself, but basically you just either confirmed yourself as a non-essential role, but since even I saw it, you did it so obviously that I believe this was either your planned fake roleclaim or that you are a neutral, which would mean it's a fake roleclaim.

I believe you realize that citizens tank shots. You signaled there, early on in the day, that you are not a good nightkill target. Why would you do that? And the answer to that is because it is unimportant to you, or that because you are a neutral.

As a neutral I would not want all of this attention. I understand as my current role I am able to take a hit for the town without losing a very critical role.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

As a neutral I would not want all of this attention. I understand as my current role I am able to take a hit for the town without losing a very critical role.

You can't take a flipping hit for the town if you claim citizen. Why would scum hit a citizen?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

If I come off as neutral it was only out of a desire to balance Mr. Cage. I'm a townie.

Again, the initial standoff-ishness and shitty gimmick where in some world an alignment list was posted D1 felt silly. Then again, I don't know who you are as far as players goes.

Just saying, "Oh lul woops I thought my alignment was revealed!!!" was a bit much. Still, everything else has been okay.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

You can't take a flipping hit for the town if you claim citizen. Why would scum hit a citizen?

I dunno, why would town pressure a civi to roleclaim civi so he can't take that hit if they read the breadcrumb?

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Kill all four, lynch this. Move on.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

*Modkill, if that wasn't clear.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

*Modkill, if that wasn't clear.

Agree except for the lynch this part.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I'm confident one neutral/mafia is in the AFK's to even it out. If not, it's a testament to this website.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Again, the initial standoff-ishness and shitty gimmick where in some world an alignment list was posted D1 felt silly. Then again, I don't know who you are as far as players goes.

Just saying, "Oh lul woops I thought my alignment was revealed!!!" was a bit much. Still, everything else has been okay.

Train of consciousness posting. As I said Methinks you are thinking too hard.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

I dunno, why would town pressure a civi to roleclaim civi so he can't take that hit if they read the breadcrumb?

I'm not the one who quoted your own breadcrumb and pointed it out seeking to be read as town for it. That's you.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Train of consciousness posting. As I said Methinks you are thinking too hard.

Still, it's bizarre. How much Mafia have you played to where that's a possibility? Level with me there atleast.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Still, it's bizarre. How much Mafia have you played to where that's a possibility? Level with me there atleast.

2nd FM game.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

I'm not the one who quoted your own breadcrumb and pointed it out seeking to be read as town for it. That's you.

Another thing real quick

Has anyone else noticed that Marlwyn when we were all on the Lois bandwagon hopped of me, but now that that train has ended decided to go for a mislynch?

Also the breadcrumb was pointed out because some people were like "lol scumread cause breadcrumb lol"

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Another thing real quick

Has anyone else noticed that Marlwyn when we were all on the Lois bandwagon hopped of me, but now that that train has ended decided to go for a mislynch?

Also the breadcrumb was pointed out because some people were like "lol scumread cause breadcrumb lol"

What?

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

What?

And now you act like it never happened.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Another thing real quick

Has anyone else noticed that Marlwyn when we were all on the Lois bandwagon hopped of me, but now that that train has ended decided to go for a mislynch?

Also the breadcrumb was pointed out because some people were like "lol scumread cause breadcrumb lol"

So what do you make of Marck Wilbird? The other three votes on you are from players suspicious of you since the beginning.
Back to this, walk me through why a town player would breadcrumb citizen then point it out to get towncred.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

And now you act like it never happened.

I know for a fact that we have a jailor with a kill or a vigilante. You should be killed by either for information.

[S-FM Jiles Carballo]

So what do you make of Marck Wilbird? The other three votes on you are from players suspicious of you since the beginning.
Back to this, walk me through why a town player would breadcrumb citizen then point it out to get towncred.

So a mislynch doesn't happen, that's why.

Have to think ahead before someone decides to push a lynch based off of "scummy vibes" without further explanation.

I think Wilbird is town, as he has in my opinion provided good discussion without being antagonistic, as well as doing as I would expect from a town player with his posts.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

but that seems to not be an eventuality because either you die today or they planned to do it anyway.