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  1. #21

    Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?

    But now it has become clear how the Nazi regime dehumanised so many of their own troops
    I'd push back on what you are saying by again saying, look to the people that initiated the directive. Like I said before we do not value these moralistic traits as a society. Nazi Germany did, and in turn molded people to do the same. Were these people who admitted to it predisposed to harboring these views than those that did not? I think that is a pretty fair assumption to make. I can link evidence of Nazi Germany troops feeling destroyed from killing that butts heads with that link.

    We are creatures of our environment for the most part. I believe currently we (ordinary people) are not predisposed to kill and have been for a long time, but we are definitely susceptible to being manipulated whether its direct or indirect.

  2. #22

    Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    I mean killing for fun. Just talking about animals, I don't think it would be right to say all poachers are psychopaths. I disagree with their lifestyle but i don't think killing for sport makes them inherently evil or psychopathic. Hell, I hunt bugs in my house and take great pleasure in watching them die when I spray them with some raid. So for me there's a natural progression there. If a human does not see another particular human as being any better than an animal, is it psychopathic for him to kill them? Or to rape them? etc.

    I'd say the average serial rapist believes that women were created to be fucked, and hence even if they say no they really biologically want it. To me that belief is awful. But I wouldn't say they are necessarily a psychopath. I think that is an incorrect label is all I am trying to say. And I think labelling sane people with terrible beliefs psychopaths only leads to them ignoring everything else you have to say
    I don’t agree with your explanation. I don’t think it’s oossible for someone to see women as existing literally only to be fucked. I think people can be pushed to the edge by an extremely toxic environment, especially if they are predisposed to violence and/or impulsive. I find it extremely unlikely that a non-psychopathic person could rape someone (if you ask me, rape and arson are actually worse than murder. Murder can have a utilitarian aim. Rape cannot.

    Furthermore, I think all those extreme moral systems promotes by Nazi Germany and the Soviets derive their principles from ‘standard’ morality. I mean, they do make a certain kind of sense if viewed from the angle the nazis did. So perhaps it someone were thoroughly indoctrinated they could persuaded to view eg massacres as moral (‘were just saving our country from a bunch of backstabbers’)
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  3. #23

    Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    The definition on what killing is on this topic isn't defined. Are we killing in defense of something? Are we killing in service of something? Are we killing for fun? I believe every human is capable of doing it, don't get me wrong there. But we are by large a pretty empathetic species. I think our very own biology telling us to feel empathy is a telltale sign that killing isn't a default mode for us.
    Yeah my gut tells me you’re right lol. I don’t think I’d be capable of killing someone.
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  4. #24

    Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?

    There is some evidence for what Sylvanas is saying, now that I think about it. They showed people pictures of others being in pain, and psychopaths actually displayed joy at seeing other people hurt. You’d expect the psychopath not to feel anything at all. Why would they experience joy?
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    Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?

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    Kumiho.

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    The current geopolitical situation has gotten ridiculously closer to nazism/racism/totalitarianism than it should have, though...

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