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    When did masks become political?

    Seat belts are not political. Nobody is protesting over having to wear seat belts and the fact that their freedom is infringed by a "click it or ticket" law in which they can receive a citation for simply not wearing one?. Why not? Why is a mandate to wear a mask during a public health crisis any different?
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanas View Post
    I think you know the answer. Seat belts weren't introduced during this horrible current Internet era and didn't incur the wrath of the pro-plague moms. It was impossible for them not to become political and stigmatized.
    So why aren't texting and driving laws political? Those are new.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Idk banana, I think those signs on the road saying click it or ticket, don’t drink and drive, don’t text and drive... are there because a crap ton of idiots don’t listen to those rules either
    Right but the question is why isn't it a political issue? Like if you tell someone "you shouldn't text and drive" or "wear your seat belt", they aren't going to respond with "muh freedom". At least that hasn't been my experience.

    They recognize that if they get caught doing it they are going to get ticketed for it. Yet no protests or freaking out about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Right but the question is why isn't it a political issue? Like if you tell someone "you shouldn't text and drive" or "wear your seat belt", they aren't going to respond with "muh freedom". At least that hasn't been my experience.

    They recognize that if they get caught doing it they are going to get ticketed for it. Yet no protests or freaking out about it.
    Like this you mean?

    Anyway yeah, the masks are on a whole other dimension. It's a shame people who refuse to wear masks where required don't simply hit their heads and die. They just spread the plague and continue being horrible.

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Right but the question is why isn't it a political issue? Like if you tell someone "you shouldn't text and drive" or "wear your seat belt", they aren't going to respond with "muh freedom". At least that hasn't been my experience.

    They recognize that if they get caught doing it they are going to get ticketed for it. Yet no protests or freaking out about it.
    Because the general people is just dumb. Stupid. There's no other explaination lol. The issue is that they can still spread the disease, so people are a bit more insisting than when it comes to seat belts lol, so half-smart people wanting to gain the support of dumb people responding "muh freedom" go out and scream "OUR FREEDOM!!!!".
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    Re: When did masks become political?

    What's wrong with giving the people a choice? Why should people be obligated to wear a mask? God gave us air so we can breathe air. By breathing with a mask, we are disobeying God. By wearing a mask, we are breathing CO2 because CO2 gets trapped in the mask. Stop listening to Bill Gates. He is trying to kill us all.
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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    What's wrong with giving the people a choice? Why should people be obligated to wear a mask? God gave us air so we can breathe air. By breathing with a mask, we are disobeying God. By wearing a mask, we are breathing CO2 because CO2 gets trapped in the mask. Stop listening to Bill Gates. He is trying to kill us all.
    Cant tell if serious or not tbh
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Seat belts are not political. Nobody is protesting over having to wear seat belts and the fact that their freedom is infringed by a "click it or ticket" law in which they can receive a citation for simply not wearing one?. Why not? Why is a mandate to wear a mask during a public health crisis any different?
    So please take this as coming from someone that hates Trump but no.

    There were totally tons of Americans that took significant issue with being given tickets for not wearing a seat belt. I really don't care about masks one way or the other but I do think its 100% fucked to demand someone wears a seat belt or has to pay some stupid tax. The function of the government is justified when it protects people from other people but it is in no way justified in protecting people from themselves out of obligation.

    And please keep your politics local.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    So please take this as coming from someone that hates Trump but no.

    There were totally tons of Americans that took significant issue with being given tickets for not wearing a seat belt. I really don't care about masks one way or the other but I do think its 100% fucked to demand someone wears a seat belt or has to pay some stupid tax. The function of the government is justified when it protects people from other people but it is in no way justified in protecting people from themselves out of obligation.

    And please keep your politics local.
    You're thinking too small-picture with the seat belts. If someone in a car isn't wearing a seat belt, they can become a projectile and fuck other people in the car up. People not wearing seatbelts also costs hospitals much more because they get fucked up more in accidents, which ends up costing the public more, especially in countries with a functional healthcare system.

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    You're thinking too small-picture with the seat belts. If someone in a car isn't wearing a seat belt, they can become a projectile and fuck other people in the car up. People not wearing seatbelts also costs hospitals much more because they get fucked up more in accidents, which ends up costing the public more, especially in countries with a functional healthcare system.
    "Critics of laws like the requirement to wear seat belts characterize them as the work of "nanny government," interfering with the right of people to conduct their lives as they choose. There is an argument for that perspective, but it remains that people who ignore these laws (motorcycle helmet laws are a close relative) still expect society to take care of them when they are injured while ignoring laws intended to protect them. If the helmetless motorcycle rider suffers a traumatic head injury and has no health insurance (and one could argue that his health insurance shouldn't cover him if he acts recklessly and contributes to his own injury), we don't drag him over to the curb and wait for him to expire. We transport him to the hospital and expend considerable resources to save his life, even though there is little expectation he will be able to pay for this. This increases the cost of health care for all of us. Therefore, there is a "greater good" reason for seat belt and helmet laws that penalize drivers from their own neglect, because their negligence has an impact on everyone."

    -Tim Dees, Retired cop and criminal justice professor Quora Nov2012

    Forcing people to wear seat belts saves people and insurance companies money.
    Forcing people to wear masks saves people and insurance companies money.

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Right but the question is why isn't it a political issue? Like if you tell someone "you shouldn't text and drive" or "wear your seat belt", they aren't going to respond with "muh freedom". At least that hasn't been my experience.

    They recognize that if they get caught doing it they are going to get ticketed for it. Yet no protests or freaking out about it.
    Masks were largely politicized because of Trump's refusal to wear one, and how he made fun of others (like Biden) for wearing one.

    However, Trump doesn't, and in fact, can't drive. Therefore he can't have a stance on texting and driving, hence it doesn't become politicized by his cultists.

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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Masks were largely politicized because of Trump's refusal to wear one, and how he made fun of others (like Biden) for wearing one.

    However, Trump doesn't, and in fact, can't drive. Therefore he can't have a stance on texting and driving, hence it doesn't become politicized by his cultists.
    He... he made fun of people for wearing a mask?
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    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
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    Re: When did masks become political?

    Libertarians politicize everything that government wants to do. The anti-intellectualism and romanticism of libertarians in states with poor education will be the downfall of its nation.

    Trace the issue back to anything concerning education, especially in maths and sciences where there is a semi-understanding of scientific principles, but large misunderstandings of its fundamental principles.

    Climate change? Anti-intellectualism in the favour of the economic benefits of conventional energy industries.

    Gun control? Romanticism in the favour of the constitution, forefathers, and civil liberties.

    Vaccines? Anti-intellectualism and romanticism in the favour of civil liberties and "critical thinking".

    Science = bunch of theories. Oversimplification that theories can be wrong, but really are built upon years of known research because of the black swan theory.

 

 

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