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  1. #881

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    I am not ready to reveal my role completely until I hear more from Dallarian and Drizzt.

    BUt I thought I have already give a good hint to you in previous post. I am not sure what is the purpose of this push now?
    Dont worry, there is not really need to know the purpose for now, I will just leave it like this until they take position then, I will come back to this post at this time.

  2. #882

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Dont worry, there is not really need to know the purpose for now, I will just leave it like this until they take position then, I will come back to this post at this time.
    We are all very close to solving this, just need patience with Dallarian and Drizzt I suppose.

  3. #883

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    First of all I am very happy that Grakylan started seriously playing. I also expected Helltanis to be replaced. I am happy he have tried FM.
    I find it difficult to follow the game. Pure reading takes me too much time and FM turned out to be more involving than I expected. It takes me a few hours to just read posts made over night. I feel overwhelmed by content. Yes, it took me too long to write this post. You can add it to my being suspicious list.

    Most of are my thoughts after D1. I haven't thought over the current situation yet, but I am aware I am being Mafia read by majority.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I hope everyone eventually reads my Tinfoil Theory at #623.
    I don't see connection between Auwt and Grakylan. Auwt's claims influenced majority of players, including both of us. There were some fair points pointed at them, but I do not have a newer thought about the situation.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post

    Right now my
    reads list has 3 nulls, 1 scum lean, 1 town lean, 1 town lock. (#623)

    Yours has the same but instead of 3 nulls and 1 scum lean, you have 4 nulls. (#62
    Our town-lean on renegade was the same.
    It's my first FM ever as well and I simply have no idea who could be Mafia right now. Your analysis process is different and more powerful than mine. I fall behind with game analysis. Now we have more content from Grakylan so I have what to work with. Also I believe in current situation I can find bakermir townie regardless if Grakylan is Mafia or Town. I try to judge people for their actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    If you're going to accuse me of power hunting, I think you should at least accue Auwt Too. By determining who's a citizen, whoever is left must be a TPR. He wrote off at least 4 people at various points (Martin, Helltanis, Grakylan) as citizens in these quotes. And with Zedus dead, well, anyone else they knew as town are TPRs and they're going to kill them, assuming Auwt is scum.
    Auwt isn't oracle. You neither. Assuming his all D1 Citizen claims are true is risky. However now some of them are confirmed. If Mafia assumed it being correct estimate of situation, perhaps Mafia could be people who are easily influenced and going a lot with flow.
    I'd say Renegade was more likely to get killed, because of his more "closed" gameplay (unlikely to be healed) and being town read by majority of the people.

    About your theory I wouldn't say Auwt is hiding under the radar. Also comparing post count is dumb. Auwt created more content than Helltanis did and activity isn't aligment indicative. For me Auwt's lower post count is positive thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    So, because of this situation above, if you truly believe that I am scum team with Auwt, then I suggest you lynch Auwt first.
    This is going pretty far and you have probably convinced me you're not in team with Auwt. I withdraw from Martin/Auwt Mafia team idea. Suggesting to lynch Auwt first puts you in a bad light, though. Mafia!Martin would for sure used his skill to defend himself after Auwt's mislynch and as long as he convinces one Townie not to vote him, he would be safe. If (I am unsure if you claimed that, please point it out to me) Grakylan is more scummier than Auwt, what should we do with him after Auwt mislynch? I can believe you would be building a strong cause against him on D3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Zedus (5 [L-0]): MartinGG99, Ash Lael, Dallarian, Grakylan, Renegade
    And thats how I came to a conclusion that since Renegade died, Dallarian has 2 options.

    First - He is scum so he would obviously not target himself.
    Second - He is a town and it was a 50/50 between Dallarian/Renegade.
    Already asked by Ash, I need to search for answer.
    Why would Mafia limit themselfs to guilty voters who have actually helped them, and not consider you? If I was Mafia you would be pretty high on my "to kill" list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grakylan View Post
    Also could I bring up attention to the beginning of Day 1. Page 4. Dallarian votes Auwt. Then a short while later, I vote Auwt. Both of us had pretty bogus reasons, but Ash goes up to question ME and ME only about my vote, and not Dallarian as well.
    I explained the reason why I voted Auwt. First thing you have done was to join vote train on Auwt, then you read earlier conversation, said sorry and switched to a longer train. I see here significant behaviour difference. Vote on Auwt wasn't what people found scummy, but following trains. Martin made pretty accurate observation about the whole situation during End of Day 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grakylan View Post

    Say it with me. Auwt is not a low-lying mafia. He is pure town.

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    He appears and convinced me to be pure town. I deny town tunneling him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grakylan View Post
    Jokes fly over our head. Plus if it was a joke he probably would have unvoted pretty soon. But the fact that he kept his vote for many hours after he cast it and my whole messy introduction says wonders about Dallarian. Even with the context of the grudge, the vote stayed for a long time. That doesn't seem like a joke.
    My vote was directed to Auwt and stayed until his answer. I expected him to arrive soon and I wasn't wrong. In terms of different sleep patterns a few hours isn't that long. Also explained by Martin.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grakylan View Post
    Dallarian was talking a lot Day 1 and he suddenly became a lot less active. Not sure if busy or if something is up.
    I am overwhelmed with content. I woke up 3 hours ago (update, 6 hours) and only thing I do is reading what happened at night.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    Has anyone else noticed that Grak today is almost like a completely different person, by the way?

    Day one he was, in his own words, a headless chicken. Today he’s come in with confident reads and a clear agenda.

    It’s almost like he spent the night phase chatting with someone and formulating a strategy.
    Power of having a mentor.
    Also good moment to thank to Gyrlander. Thanks @Gyrlander .
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    I would add that any scum team that does not include Grak makes the green check real so we can rule out some worlds like Dallarian/bakemir on that basis.
    Well unless bakemir is exactly Godfather I guess.
    We can assume bakermir is not GF.

    @Grakalyn Yes, I was avoiding a few smaller questions D1. I didn't feel need to be over defensive and answer every single post. Is there something you woud like to ask me?
    Except for my role.

  4. #884

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Please Dallarian if you really are some town investigative, put your clue on the table.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grakylan View Post
    Hi, I have some questions for you.

    When you soft claimed a power role earlier, what did you hope to achieve with that claim.
    Are you a power role?

    If so, would you feel comfortable specifying if its an investigative or a protective? (no exact role, that would be TOO much to ask for.)
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    Your theory on Dallarian is a possibility too. Leaving a vote on Zedus, soft claiming power but giving no input for day two.
    Is there anything unclear about my attitude to Zedus? I believe I have explained my thoughts about that pretty well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Ash, Dallarian we all know you are powers, I do not ask you to reveal your roles (but you could).

    But please answer the question : Can your role be proven, and have you find anything useful to make the game progress in any direction?
    I believe it all began here:

    #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    So here is my thought on everyone way of talking / votes / alignment / role / cooperation

    Dallarian : Obviously a rebel, and a scum wtf.

    Null read. I do not know the role tho but I dont think he is Citizen at all, he knows he can bring something.
    As –Mafia- player I am confident with player roles like Bodyguard, Doctor and Citizen. I believe I can help town with discussion. I related this to FM. I believed I can contribute into the game. It turned out to be harder than I expected.

    Then bakermir said this that post and some others were indicative for my power claim:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dallarian View Post
    Good night.
    I will leave you with one question.

    Is it worth using invest roles on Zedus and Martin?
    As I explained in #490:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dallarian View Post
    This question is begining of thought I wanted to develop. Is it worth using night actions on Zedus, if we can close this slot and focus our attention on less suspicious people?
    The question was a part of my building case against Zedus. As you could see, I focused on him a lot during D1.

    I have no idea why I am Power role read. Could you point out more at me, please? There was no reason to fight with such claim, I would be happy to die at night as meatshield for our Power Roles.

    My role is Citizen and I have received no night feedback.

    I hope you can put more light on your claim. I am curious what else suggested I am Power Role. Also I am sorry Auwt for disappointing you.

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  6. #886

    Re : Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Dallarian View Post

    My role is Citizen and I have received no night feedback.

    I hope you can put more light on your claim. I am curious what else suggested I am Power Role. Also I am sorry Auwt for disappointing you.
    Ok we are having a problem here, its time for me to claim.
    I'm also a Citizen.
    By that meaning, someone between Dallarian/bakermir/Martin is truly lying.
    I dont see a Town Random being Citizen, there is absolutely no way.

  7. #887

  8. #888

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Due to some personal reasons I am unable to participate any more in this game. I know it is not fair toward most of you, for you have put a lot of effort to read me and interact with me.
    I believe someone will replace me soon.

    I found the game pretty interesting, but also more time consuming and engaging than I expected. There are other reasons as well. It was a pleasure I could play with people on similar level to mine but some of you are standing out high above me in deduction and analysis.

    Thanks @bakermir for coming to the game. I hope you are having fun. You make some really good job.

    Thanks awesome Deathworlds-senpai for support (My Great Higher Entity!) and teaching how to play as aggressive Town. He is a great mentor! Spent a lot of time to explaim me FM and meta behaviour in his free time. That was great help.

    Also thanks to Maylante SuperJack for organizing this all and his patience toward my poking him all the time. But all in all I haven't broken rule 11.

    I am sorry for disappointing Auwt, he probably hoped for a nice game with me. But you are doing well, good luck. I am unlikely to join other FM games, so I am sorry for disappointing @secondpassing as well.

    I will see some of you in -Mafia-. Bye.

    They are arrows in the quiver. They must be spent if we are to win this.

  9. #889

  10. #890

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    *insert funny jojo's "menacing" symbol*
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  11. #891

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    I stand by Dallarian's citizen claim
    -vote MartinGG99

    This slot is most likely to be scum from my pov. I'll be back with more content on them but I just got off my graveyard shift, I haven't slept in like 18 hours and my brain feels like a soft tomato.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    deathworld's and RLVG's suicides made me lul. I take a lot of pleasure in knowing that I gave you an night action, and that you used it to kill yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    At least Mesk has lewdy lefty and raunchy righty. You're not even Canadian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    BRO HUUUUUUMP!! That's so Mesk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    fucketh me in the ass

  12. #892

    Re : Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Dallarian View Post
    Due to some personal reasons I am unable to participate any more in this game. I know it is not fair toward most of you, for you have put a lot of effort to read me and interact with me.
    I believe someone will replace me soon.

    I found the game pretty interesting, but also more time consuming and engaging than I expected. There are other reasons as well. It was a pleasure I could play with people on similar level to mine but some of you are standing out high above me in deduction and analysis.

    Thanks @bakermir for coming to the game. I hope you are having fun. You make some really good job.

    Thanks awesome Deathworlds-senpai for support (My Great Higher Entity!) and teaching how to play as aggressive Town. He is a great mentor! Spent a lot of time to explaim me FM and meta behaviour in his free time. That was great help.

    Also thanks to Maylante SuperJack for organizing this all and his patience toward my poking him all the time. But all in all I haven't broken rule 11.

    I am sorry for disappointing Auwt, he probably hoped for a nice game with me. But you are doing well, good luck. I am unlikely to join other FM games, so I am sorry for disappointing @secondpassing as well.

    I will see some of you in -Mafia-. Bye.

    They are arrows in the quiver. They must be spent if we are to win this.
    I'm not disapointed at all, honestly I didnt know what to expect when I asked you to try FM, but you did an overall great game, I'm glad to have played this with you.
    I welcome deathworlds to this game !

  13. #893

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    I stand by Dallarian's citizen claim
    -vote MartinGG99

    This slot is most likely to be scum from my pov. I'll be back with more content on them but I just got off my graveyard shift, I haven't slept in like 18 hours and my brain feels like a soft tomato.
    Well, this is interesting.

    Thanks for playing with us Dallarian. Welcome to the game death!

    Enjoy your rest and I look forward to seeing fuller thoughts from you when you are rested.

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  16. #896

    Re : S-FM Summer 2020

    Okay so Martin/Auwt/DW/Drizzt + potentially bakermir (must confirm)
    In any case, someone already lied right there.
    So we might have 1 or more scum between them.
    3 Citizens, and 4 claiming it + potentialy bakermir.
    If bakermir confirm being a citizen, then the power roles namely Ash, Grakylan are safe to be town.

    Waiting for bakermir for now.

  17. #897

    Re: Re : S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Okay so Martin/Auwt/DW/Drizzt + potentially bakermir (must confirm)
    In any case, someone already lied right there.
    So we might have 1 or more scum between them.
    3 Citizens, and 4 claiming it + potentialy bakermir.
    If bakermir confirm being a citizen, then the power roles namely Ash, Grakylan are safe to be town.

    Waiting for bakermir for now.
    I guess you need to ask yourself. Do I have the wherewithal to come out of the gate with such a bold lie, or do you think I'd play it safe and stick with the truth, incidentally the same truth my predecessor told before I even knew he claimed citizen. Hmm.

  18. #898

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzt View Post
    I guess you need to ask yourself. Do I have the wherewithal to come out of the gate with such a bold lie, or do you think I'd play it safe and stick with the truth, incidentally the same truth my predecessor told before I even knew he claimed citizen. Hmm.
    Your predecessor looked very Citizen like with their actions and speechs.
    That may also be why Helltanis got bored, happens.
    But the truth is, we shall wait a bit to eliminate as much possible scum as we can.

    With that in mind, either Martin or DW are lying for me right now.

  19. #899

    Re: Re : Re: Re : S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Your predecessor looked very Citizen like with their actions and speechs.
    That may also be why Helltanis got bored, happens.
    But the truth is, we shall wait a bit to eliminate as much possible scum as we can.

    With that in mind, either Martin or DW are lying for me right now.
    I think I know who I'm voting for, but Im going to wait on some votes before doing anything. Cowards way out, but better to be careful than alienate people with my ignorance.

    Who the frack is DW. Sorry

  20. #900

    Re : Re: Re : Re: Re : S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzt View Post
    I think I know who I'm voting for, but Im going to wait on some votes before doing anything. Cowards way out, but better to be careful than alienate people with my ignorance.

    Who the frack is DW. Sorry
    Oh yeah DW = deathworlds.
    I agree being careful is a must.

 

 

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