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  3. #1283

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    Finally: my plan when I fakeclaimed:

    I had no idea that there were only two town power roles. I was expecting to face another claim alongside Grak. My plan was, in a 3/4 split, to argue for a lynch in the power roles and to thunderdome down Grak on day 2, and then in mylo when I was facing the last PR and trying to do it again, for Dallarian to lead the charge against me by linking me to Martin.

    The case I had laid was that I would always come out at him hard at the start of the day and then find some reason to get off him when it came time to lynch and that I would come up with bullshit reasons to town read or scum read him at any given moment that suited me best and that we continued to always be friendly even after my very savage attacks on him. Dall would argue that this was all an elaborate distancing play from audacious wolf, as if I was lynched, I would have been proven to be. I hoped that along with Bakemirís tunnel on Martin we could send them into the f3 and lynch Martin there if I couldnít get the job done in the f5.

    Instead I got lucky. Without that luck, I think I still had a winning game plan, but I canít complain with how it went lol.
    I did hunt for other TPR's as soon as your claim came in. I also tried to use Grakylan's read on me and use it as a strategy Auwt described as "Putting yourself between tpr/citizen, being immune to both". My push on Grakylan prior to all of that made me look as suspicious as possible. I was half jokingly baiting scum around that time since Dallarian/Helltanis were unresponsive.

    When I made that post with I hoped for two scenarios;

    a) you are tpr and I try to protect you
    b) you or graky is evil and put paranoia in mafia


    Nobody claiming TPR made things go bleak for town and great for mafia. High risk - high reward strategy there Ash.

  4. #1284

  5. #1285

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    Also the fake claim immediately ended the conversation that was revolving around suspicions about Dallarian. So it had that benefit. I knew I was better at handling pressure so I intentionally sought to bring it away from him and onto myself.
    Out of curiosity, what made you lean towards claiming veteran as your TPR?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  6. #1286

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    And yeah Bekamir you nearly did WIFOM me into killing you instead of Grak. I had to reread your posts a bunch of times to be confident in reading you as citizen rather than unclaimed power role. It was a good strategy to deal with the 2 TPR world, but you needed to project that hidden TPR thing more consistently. There were times where it was absolutely clear that you thought me and Grak were the only power roles.

  7. #1287

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    Out of curiosity, what made you lean towards claiming veteran as your TPR?
    To give myself an excuse to be alive in the f3 instead of Bakemir if town was insistent on lynching DW. I was projecting Iíd gone on alert and whiffed, in the f3 Iíd say oh, they must have thought that was a fake out or something?Ē And a spent veteran is no threat anyway, unlike some other roles.

  8. #1288

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    To give myself an excuse to be alive in the f3 instead of Bakemir if town was insistent on lynching DW. I was projecting Iíd gone on alert and whiffed, in the f3 Iíd say oh, they must have thought that was a fake out or something?Ē And a spent veteran is no threat anyway, unlike some other roles.
    The one thing about your claim that I was hoping to see play out was why nobody had died to you in either of the first two nights.

    Renegade had tried to heal you n1, if you didnít alert n1 (which wouldnít be that surprising, although this kind of setup doesnít last a long time) then would that have meant you alerted n2. In the case you only alerted n2, then it would have been interesting that the 2nd mafia role (the one not killing) Hadnít interacted with you since they had no knowledge of your role. I donít think they would have thought about a veteran existing though, since itís the only role that really could hurt visitors.

    Still a good role to claim considering it doesnít clash with too many TI or TP, and can cause just as much bad as it could good. Would have liked to see where you would have taken the claim in a situation like this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  9. #1289

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Yeah if I was questioned my story was that I holstered night 1 as I thought I would either get doctored or the scum would doc-dodge me. I went on alert n2 hoping to get the power role scum if not the killer. And then I would go into speculation about what might have happened. Did they read me? Did they put a consigliere on me n1 and therefore know my role? Etc, etc.

  10. #1290

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Let me explain why I have left the game.

    I took the game very seriously and it influenced me. It made me very stressed. The longer I played, the more I thought about FM, and was tired in mental way. I came to a moment where I spent hours on reading thread and couldn't get any conclusion. It also influenced my behaviour IRL, I was angry and vexed all the time. There was also more into that.
    Game came to the point when it literally too dangerous for me to play.

    My firsts thoughts about leaving the game were on EoD D1.
    I spoke with DW and he suggested me speaking about it with SJ.
    But do not worry. For mentioned reasons I am unable to play FM anymore, so we will not meet again @Grakylan . I am happy SJ created situation when this happened in newbie friendly game, rather than something bigger and more serious.
    After I left I felt relieved from the stress and not only, so it didn't prevent me from following the game.
    Last edited by Dallarian; July 1st, 2020 at 01:03 AM.

  11. #1291

    Re : S-FM Summer 2020

    Well, gg everyone actually, I really liked playing this game with all of you.
    I want to make a post explaining how I saw each of you ^_^

    @SuperJack - I should thank you because its was originally thank to you that I came back to this forum, I really loved being part of this game. You were a great host, and your recruitments are magical, for real xD . Thanks a lot for all your work you've put into organizing this game !

    @Ash Lael - You managed to be out of the radar for most of the game, you were townread by almost everyone, thats a great game for you. I wouldnt have claimed Veteran tho, because Renegade went on you N1, and I feel like if you were really a Veteran, you would have alerted N1 because you had 50% chance of killing a Mafia when you notice an intruder. Overall you had a great game, and even though our methods might be different, I really liked playing with you. You are a good manipulative and trustful looking guy. We could have maybe won that if you were town sided actually .

    @bakermir - I guess I have to apologize because of the tunnel I did toward you : ( . I knew extra Citizen could be a thing when SJ told me, but I didnt expect him to really roll another Citizen, because that would have made the game way harder for Town, but he did . Anyway I'm very sorry that we misunderstood each other. At some point It was really clear for me that you could have been a Beguiler but my focus on you made Ash coast a lot D2 and I didnt even realize it through D2. Fully my bad. As a Citizen you manage to defend quite well still ! Was a nice game to play with you!

    @Dallarian - Its kinda sad you had to leave during the solving stage, but I understand FM is very time consumming and everyone can have their own reasons ! Had a lot of fun playing this with you. Even if you wont play FM anymore, your D1 was really clean. I had trouble either putting you on scum list because of inclusivity or town list because your posts were so well made ! Thank you for joining me in this game Dallarian.

    @deathworlds - The little we played together, you gave me a chance to explain myself and prepared a later hammer. Even as a late Mafia member, you managed to send me good townie vibes. I was more ready to vote Ash because of his vote decisions than yours. I believe experience was part of it, but this was a great scum sub, congrats !

    @Drizzt (+ @Helltanis ) - I mostly townread you before (when Helltanis was in the place), you became one of the most active players to balance the early lack of content from Helltanis. I'm not blaming Helltanis at all, I just feel like Helltanis wasnt much into the game and probably got bored of playing this. In a newbie game I can really understand it.
    Anyway Drizzt has been a quite late sub who wasnt reading the thread until he came (DW was flying over the thread sometimes because of mentoring). Thats quite impressive and i know what I'm talking about (I was dropped in a 60 pages game as a sub scum on my first game lol). You have amazingly worked to try to make an opinion, and I hope you had fun with this 'short' game !

    @Grakylan - Your town play and implication in the game were really great. I have townread you since the begining of the game, and I still believe this choice was good to make.
    We kept thinking alike, and by that reasons, I would have never voted you. I'm still quite sad that I made you investigate bakermir N1 because of Zedus flipping townie .
    I do not have much to say, your play were very townie like and you woke up so hardly D2. Yeah actually your D2 was very clean !

    @Martin - Your maths/stat thingy in the early stage were a bit uh. But the work you made, considering the excel thing and very long posts with decisive reasoning (the ones with spoilers on each of us), the number of posts (even though some were still unecessary lol) led me to think that you were a Citizen. You have put so much work into this.
    Even though you didnt really spot the real Maf members, your sense of the game was incredible, this is the idea I have about a real Citizen that should look like in all fm/mod game honestly. I guess more experience will come with more FM games, still a strong first time Martin, congrats !

    @Renegade - Your early plays made me think you were scum, but in the late D1, you answered each of my question will a lot of assurance, and persuasivity !
    You reacted a lot to each of us. When I saw Zedus flip townie, I knew it was either you or Dallarian that would die. Funny enough I told it was a 50/50 but since Dallarian was a scum, weeeeeelll... Yeah, anyway even if you healed Ash, that wasnt a misplay. You couldnt have healed anyone in this situation since you were the target, no worries on that Renegade. Moreover because of your lw saying you were on Ash, I tend to think Ash revealing Veteran would have been seen as a scum.
    I swear if Ash claimed Veteran D2, I would have instantly voted him, because of Renegade's night action. I really liked the way you played this game !

    @Zedus - Your D1 early game was a bit weird, but when some of us started to think about you, you managed to convince me enough not to vote you. When I realized nobody was about to defend you, I saw a powerless Citizen. Even though you claimed power, I'm still seeing this as a great play.
    Because of your lynch (and im very sorry I didnt make it in time in order to helping you :/ .) I started having some doubt toward Ash discrediting my vote. If you flipped scum I would have trusted Ash. But you didnt, and by that meaning, you led me to think a possible Ash scum that I explained in my 2nd post D2. Your lynch was still shameful honestly, I agree with you on that point ! Even if some players might think you did something bad claiming power, when you werent, I believe that was the right thing to do, in case you would survive to D2, luring a potential scum on you, a Consort for instance... Great game from you Zedus !

    I hope I forgot noone, and with this, I also want to say, that I'm really looking forward to seeing you play more FM games !
    Thanks a lot for this game, I really had fun playing this with you.
    Last edited by Auwt; July 1st, 2020 at 07:15 AM.

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  13. #1293

    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Good Game everyone!

    Why did I just get thanked?
    I baited you into writing in the thread to check SuperJack's reaction and be able to predict how far I can move in rulebreaking.

    Not really. I believe both Auwt and me (in the PM from me) have explained it.

    Also you have cute Probe ♥

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    Re: S-FM Summer 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    SJ should get the MVP for making this happen.
    I don't know who else to nominate. Everyone did fine on their own imo so gj all
    Maybe we all play another game sometime soon
    Next game after Magellan is going to be Naz's one day 6vs2 I believe. 72 day time, lynch on D1 ends the game.
    And after that there will be probably ladder Spirits II, very cool setup I wanted to take part in, but I cannot :/

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