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  1. #661

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    We on religion now?

    Neat.

    Ping me when the debate on taxes show up. That or pollution.
    Oh taxation is easy!

    Low corporate taxes, scrap welfare and replace with negative tax brackets, scrap most sales tax, tax property and capital gains rather than wealth.

  2. #662

    Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Oh taxation is easy!

    Low corporate taxes, scrap welfare and replace with negative tax brackets, scrap most sales tax, tax property and capital gains rather than wealth.
    We on taxes now?

    Neat.

    Ping me when the debate on pollution show up. That or religion.
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  3. #663

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    Climate change is often the loudest voice heard on the destruction of the great barrier reef, but do you know what is just as damaging? Starfish juiced up on agriculture sector run offs.

    In 2000, an outbreak contributed to a loss of 66% of live coral cover on sampled reefs in a study by the CRC Reefs Research Centre.

  4. #664

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Climate change is often the loudest voice heard on the destruction of the great barrier reef, but do you know what is just as damaging? Starfish juiced up on agriculture sector run offs.
    We on pollution now?

    Neat.

    Ping me when the debate on religion show up. That or taxes.
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  8. #668

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Lol!

    I kinda think its funny how caught up people get on categories. Add 20 qualifications that are exactly the same but with two different names and you will be put in the box that the other side wants you to be in so they can tell you that you are wrong. Even if they hold the same 20 qualifications themselves.

    The oppositional defiant nature of people never ceases to amuse me. I feel like bigotry is one of the defining characteristics of our generation. All too often any effort to open someones mind is seen as an attack on their belief structure and invalidated into an argument instead of a discussion.
    The issue is that belief systems are more or less necessary. And that most people look to politics for a concrete belief system that they can use in their lives. Itís not STRICTLY a categorisation issue because e.g. someone who is staunchly against, say, capitalism, will probably try to refuse capitalism in all of its forms.
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  9. #669

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    Intent and action are interlinked. When action deviates strongly from intent, perhaps the person was lying about their real intent.
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  10. #670

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    Anyway, one change Iíd like to see is a more interactive taxation system where you get to choose where a certain percentage of the taxes you pay go. I would put as much as I could into space exploration because itís, in my view, the single most important problem we are facing right now, and it heavily contributes to scientific advancement. Hell, it would be nice if we really went to Mars before 2030 like NASA is currently planning on doing.
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  12. #672

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    The strongest argument in favour of the Union not really giving much of a shit about slavery are the Jim Crow laws. It took nearly a century to repeal them. Why?
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  13. #673

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    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Oh taxation is easy!

    Low corporate taxes, scrap welfare and replace with negative tax brackets, scrap most sales tax, tax property and capital gains rather than wealth.
    Negative tax brackets? I have never heard of such a thing, is that essentially a way of giving people money if they donít make enough?
    I donít know if I agree with that though. I think wellfare is a better idea. People who donít have a lot of money probably shouldnít be trusted with it.
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  14. #674

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    I think the war was more about secession than slavery. The only reason the north attacked the south was because they tried to secede. The South seceded because they were afraid slavery would be abolished in the South as well - I think the Union didnít really give much of a shit about freedom and whatnot.
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  16. #676

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    I think the war was more about secession than slavery. The only reason the north attacked the south was because they tried to secede. The South seceded because they were afraid slavery would be abolished in the South as well - I think the Union didn’t really give much of a shit about freedom and whatnot.
    Lol. What happened to all of the discussion pages ago about how the war was LITERALLY about slavery.?

  17. #677

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    North wanted to end slavery, South didn't. South was clearly on the verge of seceding so the North compromised to allow slavery in existing Southern slave states. The South saw the writing on the wall that even if this happened, slavery wasn't destined to stay so they seceded anyway to ensure it's survival on their terms. The Union declared war because they seceded. This is as layman as I think I can make it while not subscribing to a biased narrative. I really do not know why you keep trying to push this other narrative.

  18. #678

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    Let me rephrase this:
    For the north, the war was about secession and keeping the union intact. For the south, the war was about slavery. Iím saying the Union didnít give a shit about slavery (or about freedom), at least not to extent where they attacked the south to free the slaves.

    I also donít think it was Northern greed that led to the war - I think the North simply wanted to keep the Union intact.
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  20. #680

    Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    Let me rephrase this:
    For the north, the war was about secession and keeping the union intact. For the south, the war was about slavery. Iím saying the Union didnít give a shit about slavery (or about freedom), at least not to extent where they attacked the south to free the slaves.

    I also donít think it was Northern greed that led to the war - I think the North simply wanted to keep the Union intact.
    I can't understand how you logic yourself into such a position. You admit that the war was about slavery, and for the north the war was about keeping the union intact. Yet the whole reason the south started the war by seceding was because they wanted to keep slaves. If the north didn't care about slaves then why the fuck didn't they just keep slavery legal and end the whole thing immediately lmao. Or just not start it in the first place.

 

 

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