S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

[secondpassing]

I would feel really bad if Sen is cult and is faking the feedback. I think he tried hard.

[Varcron]

I would feel really bad if Sen is cult and is faking the feedback. I think he tried hard.

The problem is we still don't know if cult exists.

[Varcron]

The problem is we still don't know if cult exists.

We could potentially "in mod terms" have a sleepy RK in the midst, which is unlikely considering one is already dead.

[Sen]

I would feel really bad if Sen is cult and is faking the feedback. I think he tried hard.

I dare anyone to counterclaim me being the one getting confirmed by the Asylum Director. Noone will because that'd get them lynched today and end the game.

[BananaCucho]

We can wait for MM if you guys want. Thats fine. I dont expect him to say anything that will change my mind though. Maybe confirm Vaccuum is guilty, but its pretty clear cut fmpov

[Sen]

We can wait for MM if you guys want. Thats fine. I dont expect him to say anything that will change my mind though. Maybe confirm Vaccuum is guilty, but its pretty clear cut fmpov

Cult would not leave feedback. You are just trying to derail from SuperJack's fuckup from earlier, now that your win will be denied, as your only chance at getting lynched is to push for a mislynch and try o get us to lynch you tomorrow.

[BananaCucho]

Cult would not leave feedback. You are just trying to derail from SuperJack's fuckup from earlier, now that your win will be denied, as your only chance at getting lynched is to push for a mislynch and try o get us to lynch you tomorrow.

Ok so if Im cult and Vaccuum is my cult leader then you benefit from lynching him so how is it a "mislynch"? Wtf am I reading lol

[Sen]

Earlier today Banana claimed having visitation feedback from SuperJack. Yesterday, SuperJack claimed visiting me and making it sound like there was no way to prove it because I had -conveniently- already claimed being visited by somebody else. So Banana is the single confirmation of SuperJack's claim.

SuperJack began d2 complaining to deathworlds about the feedback he got. Then -at the end of the day- he claimed being an investigator. There's no investigator feedback that can result in feedback that would make you upset. SuperJack was converted on N1 and is pissed (reasonably, since scum is fucked) because of that. he ended d2 with an early hammer before we could plan night actions that could help confirm many others.

Banana and SuperJack started trying to get rid of me -a threat to scum-, under the guise of trolling or whatever. Furthermore, their votes weren't removed after I showed that I was confirmed as town by the Asylum Director. No amount of trolling can justify trying to lynch a confirmed town unless you are scum.

Now that SuperJack started getting some attention, Banana suddenly remembered that he didn't get feedback, trying to jump on a train on Varcron. There isn't a single role in the setup that can NOT leave feedback one night, and start leaving feedback the night after.

[Sen]

Ok so if Im cult and Vaccuum is my cult leader then you benefit from lynching him so how is it a "mislynch"? Wtf am I reading lol

You are flailing. gg

[BananaCucho]

I was maybe 1/4 paying attention earlier. Who did Vaccuum say he visited again? Sen right? And Sen got feedback?

[Sen]

I was maybe 1/4 paying attention earlier. Who did Vaccuum say he visited again? Sen right? And Sen got feedback?

Yes, I have visitation feedback. Whether it's from Varcron or not is yet to be seen.

[BananaCucho]

Earlier today Banana claimed having visitation feedback from SuperJack. Yesterday, SuperJack claimed visiting me and making it sound like there was no way to prove it because I had -conveniently- already claimed being visited by somebody else. So Banana is the single confirmation of SuperJack's claim.

SuperJack began d2 complaining to deathworlds about the feedback he got. Then -at the end of the day- he claimed being an investigator. There's no investigator feedback that can result in feedback that would make you upset. SuperJack was converted on N1 and is pissed (reasonably, since scum is fucked) because of that. he ended d2 with an early hammer before we could plan night actions that could help confirm many others.

Banana and SuperJack started trying to get rid of me -a threat to scum-, under the guise of trolling or whatever. Furthermore, their votes weren't removed after I showed that I was confirmed as town by the Asylum Director. No amount of trolling can justify trying to lynch a confirmed town unless you are scum.

Now that SuperJack started getting some attention, Banana suddenly remembered that he didn't get feedback, trying to jump on a train on Varcron. There isn't a single role in the setup that can NOT leave feedback one night, and start leaving feedback the night after.

I didnt have feedback night ONE. I got feedback night TWO

Night 1 - Vaccuum claims to have visited me, I didnt get feedback

Night 2 - I got feedback

There seems to have been a misunderstanding here.

[Varcron]

I didnt have feedback night ONE. I got feedback night TWO

Night 1 - Vaccuum claims to have visited me, I didnt get feedback

Night 2 - I got feedback

There seems to have been a misunderstanding here.

I could be a lunatic based off of that, but I doubt it considering you waited a full DAY to point it out.

[Varcron]

I could be a lunatic based off of that, but I doubt it considering you waited a full DAY to point it out.

Therefore, I think you are lying and as such L Y N C H

[Sen]

I didnt have feedback night ONE. I got feedback night TWO

Night 1 - Vaccuum claims to have visited me, I didnt get feedback

Night 2 - I got feedback

There seems to have been a misunderstanding here.

No, I understood it clearly.

You are the single confirmation of SuperJack's claim.


Then you say that Varcron must be Cult, but if anything, the feedback would have to be reversed; he would've left feedback on N1 as a bodyguard, and then failed to leave anything on N2 as a converted Cultist, so your "this is solved by mechanics" argument makes no sense whatsoever.

[Varcron]

No, I understood it clearly.

You are the single confirmation of SuperJack's claim.


Then you say that Varcron must be Cult, but if anything, the feedback would have to be reversed; he would've left feedback on N1 as a bodyguard, and then failed to leave anything on N2 as a converted Cultist, so your "this is solved by mechanics" argument makes no sense whatsoever.

I think he is either jester or cult based off of his game and his most recent claim to get me mis-lynched.

[BananaCucho]

I could be a lunatic based off of that, but I doubt it considering you waited a full DAY to point it out.

BRO GALEON CLAIMED HE ROLEBLOCKED YOU NIGHT 2 AND YOU ROLLED WITH THAT

Im gonna go find the posts

[BananaCucho]

No, I understood it clearly.

You are the single confirmation of SuperJack's claim.


Then you say that Varcron must be Cult, but if anything, the feedback would have to be reversed; he would've left feedback on N1 as a bodyguard, and then failed to leave anything on N2 as a converted Cultist, so your "this is solved by mechanics" argument makes no sense whatsoever.

He LIED about visiting me. As to WHY he lied, whether it be because he is cult or otherwise, I dont know. But it was a lie

[Sen]

He LIED about visiting me. As to WHY he lied, whether it be because he is cult or otherwise, I dont know. But it was a lie

Or he's a lunatic and doesn't leave feedback and my feedback is from someone else, yet you used that weak argument to try and jump into an easy (mis?)lynch that was gaining traction.

I think he is either jester or cult based off of his game and his most recent claim to get me mis-lynched.

Yes. Let's lynch Banana. Third time's the charm.

-vote BananaCucho

[BananaCucho]

Or he's a lunatic and doesn't leave feedback and my feedback is from someone else, yet you used that weak argument to try and jump into an easy (mis?)lynch that was gaining traction.



Yes. Let's lynch Banana. Third time's the charm.

-vote BananaCucho

Gaining traction? Are you high? He had 1 vote from secondguessing, after I said "lets vote someone like treecko or vaccuum". Wtf

[BananaCucho]

Or he's a lunatic and doesn't leave feedback and my feedback is from someone else, yet you used that weak argument to try and jump into an easy (mis?)lynch that was gaining traction.



Yes. Let's lynch Banana. Third time's the charm.

-vote BananaCucho

Will you admit that if no one else fesses up to visiting you that its sketch

[Varcron]

Gaining traction? Are you high? He had 1 vote from secondguessing, after I said "lets vote someone like treecko or vaccuum". Wtf

Exactly, you hopped on an easy mis-lynch in hopes of winning as either cult or jester.

[Varcron]

Will you admit that if no one else fesses up to visiting you that its sketch

If no one fesses up to visiting him I can only assume either you were bussed, you're lying, or I was witched.

[Sen]

Are you high?

Very.

[Sen]

Fuck the NSA.

[secondpassing]

Cult would not leave feedback. You are just trying to derail from SuperJack's fuckup from earlier, now that your win will be denied, as your only chance at getting lynched is to push for a mislynch and try o get us to lynch you tomorrow.

???

I started this.

[secondpassing]

Earlier today Banana claimed having visitation feedback from SuperJack. Yesterday, SuperJack claimed visiting me and making it sound like there was no way to prove it because I had -conveniently- already claimed being visited by somebody else. So Banana is the single confirmation of SuperJack's claim.

SuperJack began d2 complaining to deathworlds about the feedback he got. Then -at the end of the day- he claimed being an investigator. There's no investigator feedback that can result in feedback that would make you upset. SuperJack was converted on N1 and is pissed (reasonably, since scum is fucked) because of that. he ended d2 with an early hammer before we could plan night actions that could help confirm many others.

Banana and SuperJack started trying to get rid of me -a threat to scum-, under the guise of trolling or whatever. Furthermore, their votes weren't removed after I showed that I was confirmed as town by the Asylum Director. No amount of trolling can justify trying to lynch a confirmed town unless you are scum.

Now that SuperJack started getting some attention, Banana suddenly remembered that he didn't get feedback, trying to jump on a train on Varcron. There isn't a single role in the setup that can NOT leave feedback one night, and start leaving feedback the night after.

Yeah, but I pointed it out?
I don't understand why you're defending Varcron right now.

Granted you're in some sort of confirmation bias on Banana, but Varcron has to be scum.

[Sen]

???

I started this.

From a misread, as you thought the BG didn't left feedback. Banana just jumped right on it.

[Sen]

Yeah, but I pointed it out?
I don't understand why you're defending Varcron right now.

Granted you're in some sort of confirmation bias on Banana, but Varcron has to be scum.

I'm not defending Varcron. I'm seeing a clear scum pattern there and exposing it.

Notice how Banana didn't show any interest in pushing anyone until after SJ's fuckup, and now he is clinging to the vaguest thread in order to finally start "scumhunting".

[secondpassing]

From a misread, as you thought the BG didn't left feedback. Banana just jumped right on it.

#3785 wasn't a misread I put BG in "quotes" for a reason
People should know their feedback like the back of their hand

Varcron made a poor alibi, and we're lynching him for it

[BananaCucho]

I'm not defending Varcron. I'm seeing a clear scum pattern there and exposing it.

Notice how Banana didn't show any interest in pushing anyone until after SJ's fuckup, and now he is clinging to the vaguest thread in order to finally start "scumhunting".

I'm not scumhunting. I'm voting someone who seems to be caught up in a lie

[BananaCucho]

#3785 wasn't a misread I put BG in "quotes" for a reason
People should know their feedback like the back of their hand

Varcron made a poor alibi, and we're lynching him for it

I dont get whats so hard to get for him

[Varcron]

I'm not defending Varcron. I'm seeing a clear scum pattern there and exposing it.

Notice how Banana didn't show any interest in pushing anyone until after SJ's fuckup, and now he is clinging to the vaguest thread in order to finally start "scumhunting".

Y'know, he could also be Exec. I'm not justifying SJ's messups, but it would make sense to hop on the bandwagon on me again now that most "csummy" people are dead.

[Varcron]

#3785 wasn't a misread I put BG in "quotes" for a reason
People should know their feedback like the back of their hand

Varcron made a poor alibi, and we're lynching him for it

Holdup, I said that "I" never had feedback yesterday, I assumed Banana had feedback up until he claimed otherwise, however I did not point that out for the reason that I thought he would pull something like today.

[BananaCucho]

Holdup, I said that "I" never had feedback yesterday, I assumed Banana had feedback up until he claimed otherwise, however I did not point that out for the reason that I thought he would pull something like today.

Wat

[Sen]

Varcron made a poor alibi, and we're lynching him for it

Who visited me, then?

[secondpassing]

Holdup, I said that "I" never had feedback yesterday, I assumed Banana had feedback up until he claimed otherwise, however I did not point that out for the reason that I thought he would pull something like today.

Ok? Way to misread

[secondpassing]

Who visited me, then?

How would I know that?

[secondpassing]

How would I know that?

It's possible he culted you, which is why you're defending him right now, which is very odd since Varcron was not townie these last two days. A sudden switch of view from you.

But explaining things with cult takes more correct guesses to get right, but Varcron lied so we should lynch him and not you. Did you see how long it took him to vote Banana? He was super caught with his pants down.

[Sen]

How would I know that?

Banana's excuse for voting Varcron is that I have visitation feedback, apparently from him but also claims that he's lying, so if he's lying I must have been visited by someone else, yet there's noone claiming doing it.

Almost everyone is accounted for. The only ones left who could have left visitation feedback would be yzb and MM. Either YZB or you are lying, since one of you killed renegade, and the same one killed Ganelon. If you truly visited Varcron, that means YZB killed Ganelon and is the true vig.

You claim being visited, so that means MM checked you and will confirm you as town or scum today.

There is no room for anyone visiting me but Varcron -unless you are lying about being visited-. Banana is lying.

[theoneceko]

Treecko is probably culted and they want vig dead before they kill more bad guys

Shut up.

[Varcron]

It's possible he culted you, which is why you're defending him right now, which is very odd since Varcron was not townie these last two days. A sudden switch of view from you.

But explaining things with cult takes more correct guesses to get right, but Varcron lied so we should lynch him and not you. Did you see how long it took him to vote Banana? He was super caught with his pants down.

Moreso I was thinking of what a jester would gain from pushing me other than to bring attention back to him.

[Sen]

BREAKING NEWS

I don't know if I'll have time tomorrow, but this is solved, so here's the necessary information:

SuperJack's claim relies on noone but Banana.

SP claims being visited. The only ones who could've done this are MM or YZB -as everyone else with supposed visitation feedback rolecards are accounted for-, but then again, if SP's claim about visiting Varcron is true, that means that YZB visited Ganelon, so MM must have visited SP. In this case MM should be able to confirm SP as town or scum.

If neither MM nor YBZ visited me, that means Varcron did and Banana is lying about their N1 feedback.

I visited YZB, by the way. He will confirm.

This is enough to win. SP or Banana will die today and that's gg.

[BananaCucho]

Banana's excuse for voting Varcron is that I have visitation feedback, apparently from him but also claims that he's lying, so if he's lying I must have been visited by someone else, yet there's noone claiming doing it.

Almost everyone is accounted for. The only ones left who could have left visitation feedback would be yzb and MM. Either YZB or you are lying, since one of you killed renegade, and the same one killed Ganelon. If you truly visited Varcron, that means YZB killed Ganelon and is the true vig.

You claim being visited, so that means MM checked you and will confirm you as town or scum today.

There is no room for anyone visiting me but Varcron -unless you are lying about being visited-. Banana is lying.

Hes lying about visiting me if he visited you. Cause I didnt get the feedback.

[BananaCucho]

Shut up.

No u.

[SuperJack]

No u.

No u

[secondpassing]

SuperJack's claim relies on noone but Banana.

SP claims being visited. The only ones who could've done this are MM or YZB -as everyone else with supposed visitation feedback rolecards are accounted for-, but then again, if SP's claim about visiting Varcron is true, that means that YZB visited Ganelon, so MM must have visited SP. In this case MM should be able to confirm SP as town or scum.

If neither MM nor YBZ visited me, that means Varcron did and Banana is lying about their N1 feedback.

I visited YZB, by the way. He will confirm.

This is enough to win. SP or Banana will die today and that's gg.

That's so convoluted. An easier and clear that is in line with people's reads are that I am the actual vigilante and that my shot went through to hit Varcron.
Varcron goes to either straight kill (SK) or sprees (MM) at ceko's house or to directly Ganelon to guarantee a hit. OR Varcron goes to Sen's house and cults him after failing? A night 1 conversion.
Seeing that I claimed vigilante yesterday and fearing a second night kill/believes there are three night killing yzb goes to hit me, or more likely is like sleuth or something that checked his two top town reads, Me and Sen, or he's the last bus, or he's a witch, all of them line up with his day 2 behavior. We can wait on MM, but if there's cult in setup, it's also possible he's culted now.

There are other ways of explaining the night actions, and yours only looks at the way youwant to look at.

Banana claimed her feedback EARLY ON, which was extremely risky to be doing so as a scum player, while Varcron has been fence sitting and bsing about his role since day 1. It's amazing he's still alive. His posts haven't gotten any more coherent or understandable. You've been on Banana for three days now, everyone else can see why she's town. Three good reasons were given for why there were a bunch of votes this and that way. She did not vote in self-preservation even on the edge of a lynch; meanwhile, Varcron STILL hasn't given a good reply to all the crap he's been doing. Why are you so stuck on her? You legit can't blame me for thinking you and Var and in a cult team. It just doesn't make sense.

[secondpassing]

VOTE VARCON Thank you.

[BananaCucho]

No u

NO U

btw we voting vaccuum now

[Sen]

fluff

I just got you, didn't I?

This is the scummiest reaction to realizing that MM checked you last night. Any town would be glad to be confirmed as such.

gg.