@Bahkieh If you actually are a sheriff and didn't check me last night then you're a pretty dumb one because you might just lose us this game.
@Bahkieh If you actually are a sheriff and didn't check me last night then you're a pretty dumb one because you might just lose us this game.
my reads are.
Unknown Mafia
Light Mafia
Bahkieh Mafia. The part where he claims to have checked naz is just his way of buddying.
Distorted is confirmed town after mikes death because nobody else claims a town power role and unknown is a scum.
now, let the shitfest begin!!!!
I'll go ahead and humor the possibility that you are town. The issue with your claim here is that in order for us to believe you, we have to also believe that Unknown did indeed decide to lie about being RBd. The problem here is that if that were true, Unknown either...
1) Was taking the massive risk that he was going to get counter claimed on the role block (creating a large amount of doubt around him when someone else does claim RBd). That seems way too risky to be likely.
2) Knew that Light was the one RBd due to a code setup the previous night and then proceeded to claim RBd as soon as he saw that code. This is not completely impossible (if you want to try and guess what the code was, go for it), but we have to assume that the mafia had organized a play for that exact scenario and acted upon it immediately at day start which simply does not seem all that plausible.
The further issue is that Unknown really did not need to claim RBd. He could have easily said that he didn't think mike was actually going to be the kill target so he bused someone else and he would most likely be believed and remain in a strong position.
This is barely even getting into the "who seems more pro-town" going into day 4 for you vs Unknown. You shot yourself in the foot quite heavily with your delayed role claim and I don't think anyone considers you to be more trustworthy then Unknown.
1. Like i said. I mentioned which post i think light claimed to be roleblocked in. He made a double quote shortly before distorted claimed to be roleblocked.
2. Yes, Unknown obviously had an excuse ready in case one of his mafia buddies weren't roleblocked, but light was roleblocked and light used some sort of code to reveal it a few posts before unknown revealed that he got roleblocked
my delayed role claim was simply because of me being drunk at a party at the time
Okay, so if we do consider the situations given above to be plausible, it still turns into your word against Unknown's word. Can you really blame me if I have a heavy disposition to believe Unknown over you based off of the events of the game so far? Do you have an argument to try and change this disposition?
well, for starters he is a bus driver that hasn't done anything in this game that could have proven him.
Im a escort that roleblocked Mike night 1
I roleblocked Arsonist night 2 and prevented a MM attack which would most likely have killed mike and another townie.
then i roleblocked light night 3.
If i was a consort i would surely have roleblocked the sheriff claimer.
If you have played with me before you would know that i have never been seen as town because of my contribution in the day chat.
RBing the sheriff claimer only makes sense if you don't actually plan on later coming forth as a consort. You obviously wouldn't roleblock them if you were planning on claiming escort the following day, which you did.
I cannot accept "I'm naturally scummy" as a defense. I don't believe based off of this that you are going to make an argument to compel me into believing you over Unknown. If someone else feels like lawyering for you and trying to argue why we should trust you over Unknown, they can go for it. But having said that...
-vote Numbertwo
i wouldn't even have claimed escort if i was a consort. It would have been alot easier for me to just claim citizen and go lurk mode like glip and light is doing.
It's annoying how easy it is to get away with a citizen claim as scum.
You didn't answer my question about unknowns night actions. Is it just a coincidence that he hasn't been able to prove himself with them? or did you intentionally ignore that question?
How is distorted confirmed? He could have "alerted" last night, killing Mike, if Mike hadn't left a lw. Distorted was asking him to leave a detailed one that way he doesn't have to claim night action. I'm not saying unknown is town, but distorted is far from confirmed.
So Yeah But Numbertwo Cant Be A Protect Role With BG&Doctor Dead
Also, You Guys Will Not Fool Me With Your Web Of Lies..
Trying scenarios:
Town Gov: 3 citizen claims (glip, yagami, auckmid) - if unknown flips bd, auckmid is confirmed
Invest: Damus
Killing: Mike
Protective: Firebringer
Power: Unknown or Distorted, both unconfirmed
ANY - here it could be an extra citizen
ANY - could be sherrif, escort, or unknown and distorted could both be town
Citizen: aamirus
Citizen: naz
if mike takes town any, and distorted takes town killing, unknown is power, auckmid is gov, then there might be 1 more cit ?
UGH why is this so hard, i need to gb to work, can town please be towny?????? i feel like no one is really trying to solve this
ughhh ok, see but you're not confirmed town to me because our dumb sheriff didn't visit you apparently he visited me which doesn't fucking HELP ME SOLVE ANYTHING - i feel like he(sheriff) might be mafia since i am the only one trying to solve the roles.
mafia had plenty of reason to roleblock the MM as well so don't even try that card on me right now
i'm pissed that i'm not dead because i don't want to do this anymore
funny that my night 1 and 2 actions saved mikes life and still he tried so hard to get me lynched.
Night 1 i blocked mike, which prevented him from getting killed by the MM and night 2 i blocked the MM, who was going to kill mike
"If he was scum I would expect him to 'do the thing he just did' so I guess he gets townpoints." What? Bahkieh literally just fake claimed to visit you and find you as mafia "as a reaction test", and that he actually checked Naz and (shocker) found the cit-claimer not suspicious.
This also lets you escape freely into the night, to most likely RB/kill the sheriff. We already have a good target for a lynch and probably won't end up with a better one tomorrow; we can get you out of the way now and narrow down options so our "sheriff" can make a more useful action for finding the rest of the scum, if he even survives the night.
Lmfao naz, I feel your pain. For a game full of TPRs, the TPRs have certainly accomplished very little. Doctor saved no one, Bodyguard protected no one, Lookout died N1 before he could do anything, "Bus Driver" supposedly redirected a kill from a citizen to a citizen, "Veteran" supposedly alerted N1 and nobody visited him, and "Sheriff" supposedly visited 2 dead people and then a citizen claimer, instead of trying to verify our PRs. Ironically the only PR that can claim to have done anything that actually affected this game is Numbertwo, for roleblocking Arsonist and preventing that night kill, and I'm 99% certain that was just Mafia trying not to get cross-killed and trying to give the consort an easy "See town, I prevented night-kills, I'm useful and pro-town" claim. It's really like I'm in a game full of Mikes (No offense Mike; you tried. Gold star <3)
I don't see any reason to let this game go to no-lynch today. Either Bahkieh is town and will end up dead tonight, or scum and he won't be giving us any useful info anyway, and we'll be back to MYLO with no more concrete info than we have today.
Sheriff without a last will? Bahkieh please, if nothing else, it's perfect way to catalogue your thoughts for yourself (and for the town when you die), and helps us figure out night actions when you flip. It's just common decency to put who you're targeting in your last will at the very minimum, for the sake of MM/Vet shenanigans. And Light's such an easy mislynch target too; we have a circle of 4 cits in which only 1 is a liar. Yagami is the easy pickings here and that's why I don't I want to push on him, especially not yet, and doubly especially not in MYLO.
There was at least 1 scum in the Unknown/Mike/Distorted triangle; Mike in the graveyard means it's between Unknown and Distorted, and still you chose to check Naz instead of those 2, even over Numbertwo? Care to justify what your thoughts were here, since you feel that you leave all your thoughts in the day chat and don't need a last will?
I actually kinda am not surprised that you would believe Numbertwo's escort claim; it's you vs. Unknown, so either you're town and you're inclined to believe Numbertwo because you know Unknown is scum anyway, or you're scum and you're "inclined to believe" him because he's your scum buddy. Numbertwo's claim is so flimsy at this point; again it relies on the easy pickings Yagami being scum and hiding a RB claim in tandem with Unknown, secretly communicating that to him within his first couple of posts, and then Unknown picked up on it and used it to claim RB so that he could get away with not having protected Mike? I could play another 1000 mafia games and I don't expect I would ever see this actually happen.
OoG note, my boss is taking off work today (and through next week) because his wife is uber preggo (inducing the birth tomorrow if it doesn't happen naturally), so I'll actually be working from home for a while. Hopefully means I'll have more time to view and chat in the game, though I still have to get work done.
The mafia only needs 1 misslynch in order to win this game, so there was no reason for bahkieh to not fake claim that i am mafia if he is mafia himself.
The sheriff wont be killed if unknown is a bus driver(which he is not). But he still wont kill bahkieh because that would just confirm him as scum. Also im not going to block bahkieh because that would confirm me as scum, lol
I will probably roleblock one of the citizen claimers that isn't Light yagami to prevent unknown from fake claiming roleblocked again.
The reasoning to fake claim that you're mafia if he's mafia would be for the free bus for town points; mafia only needs one mislynch to win, even if they get two of themselves lynched first, so it would make sense for Bahkieh to do something to get himself townread. Claiming to have actually checked naz and just saying he found you as mafia as a reaction test makes no sense from a mafia standpoint unless he was scared of a townflip from you making him look scummy, which wouldn't matter in MYLO. Ergo, Bahkieh is town, and you're scum.
Bahkieh would die tonight if we go to no-lynch because either: 1. You're town and Unknown is scum, thus there's no Bus Driver to save Bahkieh in the first place, or; 2. You're scum and Unknown is town, and you'll just roleblock him again, preventing the Bus Driver from saving Bahkieh. This confirms you as scum, but the only other option is to let Bahkieh live to confirm you as scum anyway.
@Glip who is your strongest scum read at the moment?
Your argument has huge flaws in the sense that if I WASNT role blocked, killing Mike would have put me in the spotlight as my role would have easily been able to save his death. You’re also assuming I would have prior knowledge to anticipate me or Light being role blocked, which does not make sense because neither of us were main suspects.
@Glip why do you keep suggesting me and Distorted can’t be town together?
the mafias are unknown, light and glip/bahkieh/auckumid
Auckumid has been pretty pro-town this entire game and bahkieh has been a useless sheriff. I do however think bahkieh is town based on the fact that he hasn't tried to fake claim that im a mafia which would probably guarantee a mafia victory if he was mafia.
So, Yeah glip as the 3rd mafia makes the most sense.
He's literally counterclaiming your slot. Distorted claims Vet which comes from Power or Killing, Mike's BG flip came from Town Killing (because Firebringer was the Doctor from town protective), so if Distorted is telling the truth, he's the Town Power, which is where your Bus Driver claim comes from. The Town Anys are taken up by Bahkieh and at least 1 cit; unless you want to try and start scumreading cit pairs. It's curious that you're so unwilling to scumread Distorted; if it weren't for the lack of anyone else claiming the Town Power slot, I'd entertain the idea of you both being mafia.
Simply put, I believe it's far more likely we have 1 scum claiming to be TPR, than 2 scum claiming to be cit.
Makes no sense. If you were town and me scum, I'd happily put you at L-1 and bait Distorted/Bahkieh/Naz into the hammer vote. There's a lot of places your hammer should be coming from, if you were town about to get mislynched. Quick lynches do no one any favors in MYLO. My vote, as always, won't be on any lynch train until EoD.