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    S-FM Eternia (9P)

    A quick setup to fill the gap before the S-FM Ladder gets rolling again (hopefully)

    S-FM Eternia

    Town Power 1
    Town Power 2
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen

    Scum Power 1
    Scum Power 2

    Neutral

    Spoiler : Mechanics :

    48 hour days which are shorted to 24 hours upon day 3.
    Majority lynch. Mandatory day 1 only.
    Last wills and death notes allowed. Last wills are heavily encouraged.
    Mafia share a factional night chat but do not have a factional night kill.
    When one mafia is lynched, the other one gains its night ability and may choose to use it instead of it's own.
    OoO Is as follows: Jail > Consort > Escort > Soul Swapper/Soul Ripper > Investigations > Kills > Heal/Holy Spirit save


    Spoiler : Win Order :

    Eternia Party: Eliminate those before you in the win order.
    Radicals: Obtain 51% majority.
    Senator: Obtain 51% majority.
    Holy Guardian Spirit: Live or Die to see your target alive at the end of the game.
    Vengeful Harpy: See your target successfully lynched.
    Insane Harpy: Be lynched
    Left wins before right.
    Senator <- Radicals <- Eternia Party


    Spoiler : Rolecards :

    Spoiler : Eternia Party :

    Spoiler : Town Power 1 :

    Escort
    During the night you may roleblock a player, preventing them from taking any action.

    EX:
    Someone set up a really cool magic show inside your house and occupied your time. You were roleblocked!
    Lookout
    You may watch a player at night, learning who visits them.

    EX:
    Last night you saw ___ visiting your target.
    Jailer
    During the day you may choose one target to jail for the night.
    That target is roleblocked and has basic protection. (+1)
    You share a night chat with your jail target.
    Once per game, you may choose to execute your jail target, killing them. (-2)

    EX:
    You were jailed! Jail chat link: ____.
    You successfully jailed your target. Jail chat link: ___.
    You executed your target.
    Journalist
    During the day you may choose one target to send an article.
    That player may publish a message to be publicly revealed at the start of day.
    You may choose to send them a message of your choice alongside the article.
    Their identity isn't revealed when the article is sent to the player.
    The article CANNOT give anything in terms of the Journalists identity in there otherwise the host can choose to reject the article from being sent.

    EX:
    You received a message! Reply with an article to be posted in the next day post.

    Spoiler : Town Power 2 :

    Doctor
    You may heal a player at night, preventing them from dying. (+1)
    You are notified if your target is successfully healed.
    Your target is not.

    EX:
    You arrived at the scene to find your target injured, and successfully restored their life!
    Sheriff
    You may investigate a player at night, learning their alignment.

    EX:
    Upon investigating your target, you see that they are ___.
    Bodyguard
    You may protect a player at night. If they are attacked, you kill their attacker and die.

    EX:
    You successfully protected your target from ___, but died in the process.
    Soul Swapper
    You may swap two players at night, switching their positions.
    They are not notified of being swapped.

    Citizen
    You are a registered citizen of Eternia. Ave gloriosa in nomine Eternia!


    Spoiler : Radical Party :

    Spoiler : Scum Power 1 :

    Consort
    During the night you may roleblock a player, preventing them from taking any action.

    EX:
    Someone set up a really cool magic show inside your house and occupied your time. You were roleblocked!
    Radical Journalist
    During the day you may choose one target to send an article.
    That player may publish a message to be publicly revealed at the start of day.
    You may choose to send them a message of your choice alongside the article.
    Their identity isn't revealed when the article is sent to the player.
    The article CANNOT give anything in terms of the Journalists identity in there otherwise the host can choose to reject the article from being sent.

    EX:
    You received a message! Reply with an article to be posted in the next day post.
    Agent
    You may stalk a player at night, learning who they visit and who visited them.

    EX:
    You watched ___ visit your target. Your target visited ___.
    Illusionist
    You may clean a target at night.
    Cleaned targets leave no last will and their role is not revealed.
    You will learn the identity of the cleaned target after they are killed.
    This ability has 3 charges.
    The clean wears off at the end of the following night.

    Spoiler : Scum Power 2 :

    Soul Ripper
    You may swap two players at night, switching their positions.
    They are not notified of being swapped.
    Kidnapper
    During the day you may choose one target to jail for the night.
    That target is roleblocked and has basic protection. (+1)
    You share a night chat with your kidnap target.
    Once per game, you may choose to execute your jail target, killing them. (-2)

    EX:
    You were jailed! Jail chat link: ____.
    You successfully kidnapped your target. Jail chat link: ___.
    You executed your target.
    Assassin
    Once during the day you may choose one target to assassinate.
    That target will be daykilled.
    Daykills will happen at either the 24hr or 48hr mark.

    EX:
    You were assassinated!
    Hitman
    You may attack a player at night. (-1)
    This ability has two charges.


    Spoiler : 3rd Party :

    Senator
    During the night you may submit a message to the host to be posted the next day.
    The message must contain a demand of some sort (EX: I think we should lynch Barack Obama)
    If the demand is not carried out you gain a one use night kill.
    You may use multiple night kills on the same night.
    Holy Guardian Spirit
    Assigned one person at the start of the game.
    Can choose to save that person once per game.
    If that person dies that night or is lynched the next day, You die instead.
    Vengeful Harpy
    You have no night ability.
    You must see your target lynched.
    Your target is ___.
    If your target dies at night, you turn into an Insane Harpy.
    You have a one use auto vest. (+1) You keep your vest if you turn into an Insane Harpy.
    Insane Harpy
    You have no night ability.
    You must see yourself lynched.



    Changelog: Removed Disguiser and added Radical Party Soul Swapper. Added an OoO. Changed Black Book Witch with Holy Guardian Spirit. (RIP BBW I knew thee well).
    Last edited by AIVION; December 8th, 2018 at 12:07 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM Eternia

    /sign

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    Re: S-FM Eternia

    Senator seems to be a neutral role, but you say it needs 51% of votes... Are you saying you are going to put a serial killer senator? XD
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM Eternia

    clearing @AIVION to host this as requested. OoO should be pretty self explanatory and simple (basic logic)

    Feel free to make changes as you feel the need.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM Eternia

    Made Recent changes in terms of balance and added some stuff.

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM Eternia

    Approved
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    I have a few questions: (for how @Auwt is going to run this)

    1. Does a Vengeful Harpy leave the game after their wincon is accomplished, or do they just stick around knowing they've already won?
    2. How much leeway does the Senator have in their actions? Can they say "we don't lynch anyone today"?
    3. Can a Journalist/Radical Journalist write an article in response to "write an article to me right now to prove you have that ability"?
    4. Does every role have the same chance of being the guardian angel's target, or do you plan to balance it in response to town/scum power roles?
    5. What actions can a lookout see?
    6. What actions go through the night a person dies?
    7. What happens if a bodyguard tries to protect a jailer/kidnapper victim?
    8. What roles, if any, can self-target?
    9. What happens if the soul ripper targets A and B, and the soul switcher targets B and C?
    10. In what sense does the Holy Spirit Guardian "choose" to save their target. Isn't it automatic?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    @Auwt To follow up on MM's question- Can you please clarify the Senators win condition as that its impossible unless they are the last player alive.

    I will also say this setup looks like it could easily swing for one side to steamroll. Elimination of either of the TPR's or Scum PR's either verifies an outed scum PR or confirms an outed town PR as town which is town sided. Both the Vengeful Harpy and the Guardian Spirit add swing either way while the lack of mafia KPN is town sided. May balance a tiny bit better if scum rolls were merged into 1 pool. Feels a little town sided.

    It also looks a little like the setup is designed around a Senator existing for balance.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    I have a few questions: (for how @Auwt is going to run this)

    1. Does a Vengeful Harpy leave the game after their wincon is accomplished, or do they just stick around knowing they've already won?
    2. How much leeway does the Senator have in their actions? Can they say "we don't lynch anyone today"?
    3. Can a Journalist/Radical Journalist write an article in response to "write an article to me right now to prove you have that ability"?
    4. Does every role have the same chance of being the guardian angel's target, or do you plan to balance it in response to town/scum power roles?
    5. What actions can a lookout see?
    6. What actions go through the night a person dies?
    7. What happens if a bodyguard tries to protect a jailer/kidnapper victim?
    8. What roles, if any, can self-target?
    9. What happens if the soul ripper targets A and B, and the soul switcher targets B and C?
    10. In what sense does the Holy Spirit Guardian "choose" to save their target. Isn't it automatic?
    I do not know if those answers fit @Stealthbomber16 ideas, but here is how I am seeing them.

    1. Vengeful Harpy acts like an Executioner, so I would say they say until the end of the game, even though they won.

    2. As long as the demand is possible and do not break the game, I guess the Senator is authorized to ask it.

    3. This point goes against Journalist/RJournalist role description, so it's game breaker, thus no.

    4. Each role has the same chance of being a VH (Vengeful Harpy) target or a HGS (Holy Guardian Spirit) target. I will try my best to make sure the game is balanced.

    5. Lookout even though, being Investigative, should be able to see all the different actions. Need confirmation from SB16 here, if possible.

    6. Jail > Consort > Escort > Soul Swapper/Soul Ripper > Investigations, so basically all the actions can go through, except Doctor and HGS and BG.

    7. IMO a Bodyguard shouldn't be able to protect from a Jail/Kidnapping. So the Bodyguard wouldn't be able to protect anything. Need confirmation.

    8. Any role being targeted by Soul Swapper, Soul Ripper + Lookout and Agent. Need confirmation on Agent and Lookout.

    9. The order of driving doesn't change much. If ripper drives first then in the end it's A that is being switched with C, if swapper drives first, it would also be A and C.

    10. They have a one-time heal. As long as their target ends up being alive at the end of game, they win. They must intentionally use this heal, it's not automatic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    @Auwt To follow up on MM's question- Can you please clarify the Senators win condition as that its impossible unless they are the last player alive.

    I will also say this setup looks like it could easily swing for one side to steamroll. Elimination of either of the TPR's or Scum PR's either verifies an outed scum PR or confirms an outed town PR as town which is town sided. Both the Vengeful Harpy and the Guardian Spirit add swing either way while the lack of mafia KPN is town sided. May balance a tiny bit better if scum rolls were merged into 1 pool. Feels a little town sided.

    It also looks a little like the setup is designed around a Senator existing for balance.

    Senator earns 1 kill each time a demand isn't carried out. They can kill multiple person during a same night.
    So their win condition would be to kill everyone, making him at least in a 1v1 situation, or even better in a last man standing situation.
    Last edited by Auwt; December 1st, 2020 at 12:21 PM. Reason: forgot 9.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    I agree with each of the above answers except for number 2. Senator should not be allowed to ask for a no lynch.

    I don’t believe that the Senator is necessary for game balance. Senator adds additional volatility to the game, more so than the other 3p role options. It depends on how swingy you want the game to be.

    I will edit the setup to clarify these things at some point soon, don’t let me forget @Auwt it will probably need to happen tomorrow.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I agree with each of the above answers except for number 2. Senator should not be allowed to ask for a no lynch.

    I don’t believe that the Senator is necessary for game balance. Senator adds additional volatility to the game, more so than the other 3p role options. It depends on how swingy you want the game to be.

    I will edit the setup to clarify these things at some point soon, don’t let me forget @Auwt it will probably need to happen tomorrow.
    Please please please do not edit it while the game is ongoing. Lol

    -edit
    By this I mean it will rattle the foundation of an ongoing game. Players reference this page and listen to what the host says when questions are asked. If you started making changes to this page you could change something players have asked the host about that could result in a mess and impact the game.
    Last edited by Helz; December 1st, 2020 at 05:19 PM.
    Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
    If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Please please please do not edit it while the game is ongoing. Lol

    -edit
    By this I mean it will rattle the foundation of an ongoing game. Players reference this page and listen to what the host says when questions are asked. If you started making changes to this page you could change something players have asked the host about that could result in a mess and impact the game.
    100 % agreed with this, by the way.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM Eternia (9P)

    The night length is sorta missing, I deemed 24 hours is enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MM Magoroth and Distorted are the 3 baddies
    just like Agrael Acriel and Auwt being the original 3 baddies
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    MafiaZ and Skwirl its all a repeat of history
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRevenant View Post
    But Potoss has Pobes, Zeelot, and Acrons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Screw you I actually have more grudges towards the people who have their names start with A

 

 

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