S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0

[Marshmallow Marshall]

please be mindful of where you throw your vote -.-

thank you, and read my other post lol.

[Mesk514]

thank you, and read my other post lol.

i posted mine first. so.

[Hybrid]

-vote SuperJack

Well you might say that i was the only one who was against lynching but I had a feeling that SJ was goon, if anyone else agrees with me and mesk we will lynch superjack, i mean he really feels like goon...

[Hybrid]

Also he still didn't cancel his vote against StealthBomber16

Btw, how to do spoiler thingies?

[Mesk514]

[ spoiler=insertwordshere ] whatever you want here [/ spoiler ]

[Marshmallow Marshall]

SJ, may you defend yourself please? Thank you.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

What did you want to mean, you say z but you mean y? Thats not very good. Thats basically saying "If I say something and its scummy, i dont mean it plomiz"
stealth always makes boring wall posts that look big, but really contain very little. its easier to find someone by engaging in conversation with them. Its easy to get away with scum by making wall posts.
Also 100% chance of losing if we never lynch. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath.

Suuuuch a genius. You noticed Stealth's posting pattern. Congratulations. However, it is completly irrevelent. You'll need something better against him.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't think we should lynch hybrid or marsh today because they are active and if we kill one the thread will turn dead. Do I think they are town? They are just as likely to be scum as the afks are lol.

At this point of the game, we are trying to get opinions, and not lynches. Sorry, but I do not get the usefulness of this post. Please explain.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also 100% chance of losing if we never lynch. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath.

Uh, no? The game will just never end... and we will live happily ever after. Stop the war in the world!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

hey hey hey, party people

time to review everything! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Welcome Omega! (a bit late, I know...)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't like how RLVG is. He comes on, but does not post here. He does not post on the other threads. So I am asking: what is he doing when he comes online? Does he post in a private chat? Like a Mafia chat...?

Please tell me your thoughts about this.

[Mesk514]

it's superjack

[Mesk514]

@Sprunace, I see you online... Vote SuperJack

[RLVG]

I don't like how RLVG is. He comes on, but does not post here. He does not post on the other threads. So I am asking: what is he doing when he comes online? Does he post in a private chat? Like a Mafia chat...?

Please tell me your thoughts about this.

Everyone has a real life, lol.

If you mean "comes on" as in me being online, I have the thread open in a tab so it might show up even if I'm afk.

SuperJack is too funny... he's like, okay i'm down to vote mesk or like rlvg... && of course he doesn't like YZB.... then like 2 posts later he votes stealthbomber and then uses "stealth always makes boring wall posts that look big, but really contain very little. its easier to find someone by engaging in conversation with them. Its easy to get away with scum by making wall posts." as his reasoning when stealth posted a long post after SJ voted lololol

Iced is just all over the place, has a RLVG theory and a Hybrid theory, but someone is okay with looking at stealth as well....

Hybrid is just being hybrid, so I don't know why people think his activity so far is indicative of anything.

You're talking about Superjack's opinions and votes, then mention Iced is all over the place, and that Hybrid is just Hybrid.
Then what's your opinion about Marshmallow really? Someone completely disconnected from all of us so there's nothing worth mentioning?

-vote SuperJack

If I had to put my money on a third person, I bet firebringer was a no show cause he rolled scum

Why is Firebringer likely scum for not showing up?
That's completely non-role, non-faction, because there's not a single post.

-vote SuperJack

Well you might say that i was the only one who was against lynching but I had a feeling that SJ was goon, if anyone else agrees with me and mesk we will lynch superjack, i mean he really feels like goon...

You're buddying up with mesk, ain't you? Hmm.

[Mesk514]

I'm not just talking about superjacks opinions and votes, I'm talking about how superjacks opinions don't justify his vote. He no where mentioned reading Stealth as scum and then used something Stealth said AFTER he placed his vote as a justified reason to vote him.

Have you ever seen a chicken run around with it's head cut off? to me that's MM.... the kid is most probably town but doesn't know where to start therefore he's just poking at everything they believe is worth poking at in attempt to show they're trying to do something. <= Could also be indicative of alternative motives but to me it's leaning more town for me considering of how i've seen them play in other games.

I never said there was anything indicative about Firebringers alignment from him subbing out but time and time again I've seen Firebringer sub out cause he rolled scum. Obviously I would have to what the slot is like now, but again... if i had to put my money somewhere I would go SJ, Iced, Omegasaur.

[Omegasaur]

I feel bad because I replaced an AFK, and now I've been AFK a lot too...

[Omegasaur]

-vote SuperJack

I agree that SJ is probably scum

[yzb25]

I respect Mesk's reads, and found her view on SJ genuinely illuminating. When SJ wordlessly voted SB then started grilling SB for posts SB made AFTER SJ's vote I just viewed it as excessive pressuring. But, looking back, it feels like he's just firing shots at SB behind me. Makes me think I need to reread SJ because I've found him to be a difficult slot in the past - I think I overestimated the sincerity of the RLVG/Spruance read.

Right now, we both agree that Iced has been wtf. I thought he mighta just been lazy, but turning around and being like "merrh you're just making those points about my Hybrid scumread cuz you're transferring attention to MM from Hybrid. Hybrid/yzb scumteam found day 1 gg no re." rather than "oh shit if yzb is calling me out and he's not lurking obvscum maybe I'm in the wrong."

That all said, Hybrid is really obvtown. His strategy may be barking mad, but he's clearly sticking to his guns and fighting for what he believes in. Unless you believe this guy's pulling some mad WIFOM on his third game, putting himself at the game's centre is crazy if he thinks he's pushing a scum strategy. MM clearly looked like the one sheeping his strat in the background, if anything.

I'd be happy to just go with Iced today because it's the one me and Mesk both feel relatively confident about - and Mesk is a strong townread right now. But ima reread anyway now.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

[yzb25]

Ewww sorry for wallpost mode it looks like I'm getting a bit tired heh.

tl;dr :

-Iced's response made me feel much more sure he's scum and not having an off day.
-Mesk's posts were good and now I'm more wary of SJ.
-Hybrid feels too assertive with his strategies if he's actually scum. He's also made loads of pure stream of consciousness-esqued posts which make him feel very believable.

[yzb25]

Yeah, if I was SJ and I wanted to pressure SB16 with my vote, I wouldn't make posts convincing Hybrid to scumread SB16. I'd directly take my issues to SB16 and probe him.

The vote doesn't make sense. He voted him after I voted him, then regurgitated my reasoning to Hybrid to try and convince Hybrid to scumread SB16.

[yzb25]

yeah, sorry for all this spam. I'll just vote SJ with you guys. He's not #1 priority like Iced, but he'll do XD

-vote Superjack

[Hybrid]

Actually I dont think iced is scum, prejudicy maybe but not evil.
Tho if sj doesnt responds back with a proper response we will probably lynch him.

Also RLVG read all of the posts you will see that mesk is making sense.

Also actually i wanted to vote SJ after his posts but that would really make me seem as a scum so i ve waited someone else to make the point.
If you were to suspect me as a scum, who would my teammates? All of the people Ive defended? That makes 4 5 people in total which even if i were to be a scum with lets say mesk why would i try to defend everyone but except sj?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Guys, stop blaming me for being new also I see Hybrid as the less scummy guy here. He is obviously trying to find the scums, without anyone to support him or to sheep him.

SuperJack is being SuperSuspicious...

-vote SuperJack

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'm not just talking about superjacks opinions and votes, I'm talking about how superjacks opinions don't justify his vote. He no where mentioned reading Stealth as scum and then used something Stealth said AFTER he placed his vote as a justified reason to vote him.

Have you ever seen a chicken run around with it's head cut off? to me that's MM.... the kid is most probably town but doesn't know where to start therefore he's just poking at everything they believe is worth poking at in attempt to show they're trying to do something. <= Could also be indicative of alternative motives but to me it's leaning more town for me considering of how i've seen them play in other games.

I never said there was anything indicative about Firebringers alignment from him subbing out but time and time again I've seen Firebringer sub out cause he rolled scum. Obviously I would have to what the slot is like now, but again... if i had to put my money somewhere I would go SJ, Iced, Omegasaur.

Hey, I'm trying to make a list of my suspects, that's all. I'm not "poking at everything". However, I feel you are a bit sheepy.

And about Omegasaur, he just came in the game. Let him some time to get in. Plus, he said it himself, he's been AFK a lot.

[RLVG]

I have a feeling that SJ is more sheeping than actually agreeing the points to.

L-1 btw!

Hybrid (1 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly

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SuperJack (5 [L-1]):
Marshmallow Marshall, yzb25, Hybrid, Mesk514, Omegasaur

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Stealthbomber16 (2 [L-4]):
RLVG, SuperJack

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Firebringer (1 [L-5]):
Spruance

[Hybrid]

We are waiting SuperJack for an explanation but he s nowhere to be seen...

[RLVG]

We are waiting SuperJack for an explanation but he s nowhere to be seen...

Sure, "waiting", but with L-1 when anyone of RLVG, Iced, Spruance and Stealth, can just hammer and no discussion is met.
I won't hammer since we have a plurality vote anyway, and I'm going to be sooo hateful to either Spruance or Stealth if they go with hammer before SJ talks, and I'm going to be probably 600% mad if SuperJack doesn't talk anyway.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

After reading the recent posts, I come to this list:

Hybrid is witch hunting. Literally. Countering every post with another, very active. May be the most useful player here. Town lean.
yzb25 is trying to catch scums a lot. Wouldn't lynch him for now.
Spruance, not very active but tries to give good arguments. Wouldn't lynch him for now.

Omegasaur is just inactive. Nothing else no say, he just goes with everyone. Could be scum, not a priority target.
Mesk514 is pointing fingers more than usual. May be scum, not a priority target.
Stealthbomber16 is acting weird. He makes one big wall, then we don't hear him. He didn't bring anything useful to the game, when he is usually very useful. Suspicious.
RLVG is afraid to vote, but gives an opinion on everything. Could be a strategy, but suspicious.
Iced_Monopoly is very suspicious.
I would be very surprised if SuperJack wasn't a scum.

The 9 players out of myself are here. Top of list = less suspicious, bottom = most suspicious.

[RLVG]

By the way, since 6 players are required to cause a 'hammer'...
Me RLVG, Iced Monopoly, and Spruance, have the ability of hammer.

If we assume that SuperJack is actually scum, Scum themselves should shy off from the hammer, which by shitty logic and stuff means that it's 1/3 chance of the remaining players being scum with a probability of 2/3.

Based on shitty looking of things, might give Iced Monopoly there an extra look because everyone seems to collectively agree they're scummy.

RLVG is afraid to vote, but gives an opinion on everything. Could be a strategy, but suspicious.

Objection : I'm not afraid to vote, I just want SJ to talk. Considering how the game is, SJ will get lynched anyway regardless of hammer.
If I were to vote now, I'd hammer - thus no discussion.

Mechanics
Lynches will be handled by the automated lynch system using [vote] tags, with a 51% hammer. If no lynch occurs then the player with the most votes will be lynched.

[Mesk514]

I point my fingers everywhere.... no clue what you're talking about MM

[Mesk514]

Also, slow vote = scum

[Stealthbomber16]

hello my ppls i am working on my wallpost.

[SuperJack]

Hi.

[SuperJack]

LOL L1, I can't remember the last time I was lynched D1 as town

[SuperJack]

-vote SuperJack

Well you might say that i was the only one who was against lynching but I had a feeling that SJ was goon, if anyone else agrees with me and mesk we will lynch superjack, i mean he really feels like goon...

What does a goon feel like?

[SuperJack]

Question if you think I'm scum, at this stage, who would be my scum buddy and why?

If your gonna lynch me, the more of you answering these questions the better the data to look for scum.

Also if you Hammer I'll laugh at you.

[SuperJack]

Also I voted stealth because he was online, there was no other reason. I was gonna create conversation with him but I got distracted.

[yzb25]

Question if you think I'm scum, at this stage, who would be my scum buddy and why?

If your gonna lynch me, the more of you answering these questions the better the data to look for scum.

Also if you Hammer I'll laugh at you.

I'd rather you defended yourself rather than beginning a chat about preflip associations, mate.

[SuperJack]

I'm glad I managed to make Mesk talk though ^^ It helps people play to threaten them a policy lynch, and then be shit to allow them to do something for a change.

[Hybrid]

Stop panicking and make a great wall of posts that why you are not the scum.

[Iced_Monopoly]

I respect Mesk's reads, and found her view on SJ genuinely illuminating. When SJ wordlessly voted SB then started grilling SB for posts SB made AFTER SJ's vote I just viewed it as excessive pressuring. But, looking back, it feels like he's just firing shots at SB behind me. Makes me think I need to reread SJ because I've found him to be a difficult slot in the past - I think I overestimated the sincerity of the RLVG/Spruance read.

Right now, we both agree that Iced has been wtf. I thought he mighta just been lazy, but turning around and being like "merrh you're just making those points about my Hybrid scumread cuz you're transferring attention to MM from Hybrid. Hybrid/yzb scumteam found day 1 gg no re." rather than "oh shit if yzb is calling me out and he's not lurking obvscum maybe I'm in the wrong."

That all said, Hybrid is really obvtown. His strategy may be barking mad, but he's clearly sticking to his guns and fighting for what he believes in. Unless you believe this guy's pulling some mad WIFOM on his third game, putting himself at the game's centre is crazy if he thinks he's pushing a scum strategy. MM clearly looked like the one sheeping his strat in the background, if anything.

I'd be happy to just go with Iced today because it's the one me and Mesk both feel relatively confident about - and Mesk is a strong townread right now. But ima reread anyway now.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

Im just going to keep coming back here as the super train seems unwarranted, but inevitable.

Piggybacking mesks conclusions onto your own is worthless. She claims i have to many theories. The rlvg theory was literally a page one joke, its impossible to have read that as a serious comment. I have consistently been looking at hybrid with a sprinkling of you and SB. Given three are 3 scum, that math makes sense.

Youre literally saying you can't be scum because youre not lurking, and that is justification to disregard my thoughts. That alone looks like hardcore protection of a partner. Calix used to pull the same shit, devaluing any comments and cherry picking them when representing; and she was scum every game i called her on it.

Hybrid is obvtown for wild strategy and sticking to his guns. I am priority scum for wild strategy anf sticking to my guns. Which one is it? Hypocrisy dont float here. Or is it your second comment that hybrid is obvtown because wifom? Because frankly thats worse.

Your justifications for your reads are appalling, and contradictory at best. You're trying to present (probably teammates at this point) as confirmed town because "they're new". Everything here reeks of scum play.

If SJ is going ahead, so be it, but if implore everyone to come back and reread

-vote yzb25

[SuperJack]

I'd rather you defended yourself rather than beginning a chat about preflip associations, mate.

I'm trying to figure out what I'm defending other than feels. Dearie.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Stop panicking and make a great wall of posts that why you are not the scum.

This mentality is bad. Wall posting and lots of content != town.

[SuperJack]

Stop panicking and make a great wall of posts that why you are not the scum.

=)

[Iced_Monopoly]

I'm trying to figure out what I'm defending other than feels. Dearie.

Pretty sure it's just this, and policy due to meta

[Hybrid]

This mentality is bad. Wall posting and lots of content != town.

... You even read the other posts? It would be pretty obvious why i am asking a Wall of Posting.

[SuperJack]

I have giggles.

[RLVG]

I'm trying to figure out what I'm defending other than feels. Dearie.

Here's the vote posts.

Guys, stop blaming me for being new also I see Hybrid as the less scummy guy here. He is obviously trying to find the scums, without anyone to support him or to sheep him.

SuperJack is being SuperSuspicious...

-vote SuperJack

yeah, sorry for all this spam. I'll just vote SJ with you guys. He's not #1 priority like Iced, but he'll do XD

-vote Superjack

-vote SuperJack

Well you might say that i was the only one who was against lynching but I had a feeling that SJ was goon, if anyone else agrees with me and mesk we will lynch superjack, i mean he really feels like goon...

-vote SuperJack

If I had to put my money on a third person, I bet firebringer was a no show cause he rolled scum

-vote SuperJack

I agree that SJ is probably scum

I have a feeling half of these is sheeping, lol.

[SuperJack]

So @Hybrid , please inform me the details of what is feel.

Try to treat this like Science. Try the wizard of Oz.

What is the Wizard of oz?

Its the word because.

[Hybrid]

Here's the vote posts.











I have a feeling half of these is sheeping, lol.

Omega and MM are the only one who is sheeping since they don t share their opinions much.
Other than that me mesk and ybz are not sheeping.