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  1. ISO #1951

  2. ISO #1952

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury View Post
    Oh and @Frog , shooting you was not a derp. One of the ways I could have lost was if one of you/iced was cult and converted the other and next day forcing a lynch on me. It wasn't town of me to kill you perhaps, but I stand by my decision
    If you were a vig, you always shot Iced.

    So lolzorly mate.

    ^_^

    The risk if you didn't as a vig meant you could be handing Iced the potential triad win.

    I don't believe you play suboptimally.

  3. ISO #1953

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown1234 View Post
    you could have won had you voted fury, i was not under the impression you were cult until you derped it.
    I even said thought cult was dead.
    so no, you didnt sub into an unwinnable spot, you just fucked up =)
    Nah mate.

    I lynched a SK, then a Triad.

    If I were to ever win F3 it'd require having Villager equity.

    The 3 scum meant they'd kill me for having the most villager equity.

    So yeah, I subbed into an unwinnable spot.

    Not even salty about it.

    The bolded is just false.

    I know you're salty for losing, but this wasn't even a good game to get salty about.

  4. ISO #1954

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury View Post
    Oh and @Frog , shooting you was not a derp. One of the ways I could have lost was if one of you/iced was cult and converted the other and next day forcing a lynch on me. It wasn't town of me to kill you perhaps, but I stand by my decision
    But why did you claim that kill as your own? You just had to say you didn't shoot anyone to give us more time to talk.
    [23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
    [23:19:39] DarknessB:
    -vote Sino

  5. ISO #1955

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Frog was right and played correctly. His only error was assuming that there couldn't be 3p in the setup and that there was 100% 4 Triad in the game. I mean, have you ever seen a Matt setup? :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  6. ISO #1956

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Also yeah Frog kill was bad, no idea why nobody even thought about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    1-I really and truly believe @Unknown1234 is town. He stuck by me when I needed him
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Wow, this game was really easy. I just had to talk dumb shit to survive some days more. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If sheriff cleared you honestly I would take him out of my town core and put him as scum.

  7. ISO #1957

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    Nah mate.

    I lynched a SK, then a Triad.

    If I were to ever win F3 it'd require having Villager equity.

    The 3 scum meant they'd kill me for having the most villager equity.

    So yeah, I subbed into an unwinnable spot.

    Not even salty about it.

    The bolded is just false.

    I know you're salty for losing, but this wasn't even a good game to get salty about.
    It wasn't at all unwinnable. You just needed to talk a night kill off of you/ your partner and then follow up by lynching the last killing. Presuming you had no control over the NKs is... false.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  8. ISO #1958

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    The thing is if I shot Iced, then I very easily lose if you're citizen and he just recruits the only citizen claim. Turns out he couldn't recruit, but I didn't know that. Killing Iced had the greatest potential to lose me the game of all 4 options. Killing Slaol would lose me the game if one of you two were cult. Killing Frog was sketchy, but kept me in it regardless and I could have always claimed to have shot Iced (him being immune NK). Anyways, day started an hour before a huge final for me and I had gotten little to no sleep the night prior. I shouldn't have claimed the kill, but when he flipped cult I thought I could bullshit it.

    Anyways, if you still think killing Frog was bad on my end, then reply and we can have a discussion. You haven't thought it out fully (from the perspective Frog was citizen, Slaol ML, Iced triad/NK/cult).

  9. ISO #1959

  10. ISO #1960

  11. ISO #1961

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    No, I very much agree with Fury's NK because of possibility of cult; killing the mason could give cult a majority. Frog could convert, and if he chose Iced instead while Fury shot Siaol, it's an instant cult win.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    What. You got me. Stop unvoting and stretch my neck, dammit.

  12. ISO #1962

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed View Post
    No, I very much agree with Fury's NK because of possibility of cult; killing the mason could give cult a majority. Frog could convert, and if he chose Iced instead while Fury shot Siaol, it's an instant cult win.
    Yep, just one of the many possibilities in which I lost. I was actually pretty screwed as soon as it was 5 players alive(not shooting the night that I lynched sino was my biggest mistake all game). My win chances were very low if Slaol was ML, Frog cit, and 2 triad. If you don't want to take my word for it, put yourself in my shoes and run down the paths. I nearly lost the game because I didn't shoot after Sino lynch with the preflip role knowledge that everyone had.
    Last edited by Fury; April 14th, 2017 at 01:10 PM.

  13. ISO #1963

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    Nah mate.

    I lynched a SK, then a Triad.

    If I were to ever win F3 it'd require having Villager equity.

    The 3 scum meant they'd kill me for having the most villager equity.

    So yeah, I subbed into an unwinnable spot.

    Not even salty about it.

    The bolded is just false.

    I know you're salty for losing, but this wasn't even a good game to get salty about.
    For someone who barely participated (myself) I am definitely not salty, just don't understand some people's thought process. You totally derped. It's chill though. Who are you?
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
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  14. ISO #1964

  15. ISO #1965

  16. ISO #1966

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by ccantman View Post
    This comes down to, Do you think N1 there was or was not an attempted 3rd kill?

    Since there were two witch doctors, I think one saving a doctor to make a second witch doctor follows how the deaths of N1 and N2 and match the rolecards.


    If this was the case, there was 3 kill attempets on both N1 and N2, and as such, fury didn't Vig kill yzb, he SK killed yzb after failing N1 due to N1 witch doctor heal.

    but this is only under the assumption there was only 1 witch doctor to begin with.

    IF we started with two witch doctors, then there was only 2 kill attempts N1, in which case the follow up of fury adding a Vig kill follows suit and sino is lying.

    True I missed that in both cases sino could still be lying.

    But if Fury is Vig, while posible, i doubt we have two vig.
    And if Fury is SK, then sino clamin vig is still possible
    So I do have one question. was i not stating my point clear in my posts (such as the one I quoted as an example)

    My point was that we have 2 possible scenerios but based on which factors are assumed the expect answer is diferent

    in the case of scenerio A we want outcome Y
    in the case of scenerio B we want outcome Z

    am I just bad at explaining things, or did I fuck up somewhere?

  17. ISO #1967

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by ccantman View Post
    So I do have one question. was i not stating my point clear in my posts (such as the one I quoted as an example)

    My point was that we have 2 possible scenerios but based on which factors are assumed the expect answer is diferent

    in the case of scenerio A we want outcome Y
    in the case of scenerio B we want outcome Z

    am I just bad at explaining things, or did I fuck up somewhere?

    It was clear, however, at the time there were only 2 kills N1. And people pointed out that yzb wasn't a high priority kill target. So the fact that both were WD's were a fact of set up mechanic and not via role mechanic.

    Matt also host slipped by stating he didn't treat the WD role as unique, so a lot of people assumed (correctly) that he reasoned that the WD's spawned together.

    In fact there were 3 cults to start. Both SK's hit the same target N1 which lended itself to providing Fury's claim to be a vigi who couldn't shoot n1 more plausible than a series of chain events happening to make it so that the same target was hit 2 nights in a row, without any reasoning for it to be a necessary kill.

    But again, I apologize for not even considering it. Fury was playing a great scum acting town.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  18. ISO #1968

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    So if people assumed that we started with two Witch Doctors (which we did) why was the whole second part of that post ignored which was pointing to Sino.

    That is my point, only the first half pointed to Fury IF we had one WD
    but in the case of two (Which was the whole point if the second half) that was completly ignored and i was "tunnel visioning"

  19. ISO #1969

  20. ISO #1970

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Also, you constantly harped on the point that the game started with 1 WD, but YZB made 0 sense to have been a converted WD, as I covered. So, you weakened your argument greatly by entertaining ideas which had a 1% chance of occurring. It probably shouldn't detract from the separate argument, but it (at least for me) led me to devalue your other argument.

    And, when I said as much during the FM you failed to acknowledge it.

  21. ISO #1971

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    So that is my question, How do I articulate it better.

    Just using the above quote as an example.
    I kept trying to explain my target on you was only if we had 1 WD.

    Step 1:
    Ackowledge that we had two witch doctors
    Step 2:
    There are two ways to get to two witch doctors
    A)A doctor was converted
    B)WE started with two Witch doctors

    Lets start from this part. Is there some way that my step 2 analyze is wrong? Because this was the only point I was trying to get through for most of the part.

    If we accept that Step 2 is true.

    Then we take each part seperatly
    PArt A- A doctor was converted
    The break down of this is what leads to Fury and what my whole argument ON THAT PART was
    PArt B- We started with two WD's

    I was always open to the idea that either of these were possible, but my question was to the rest of the players which do you think is true.

    And then the conclusion

    IF you think PArt A is true, Fury is guilty
    IF you think part B is true, sino was guilty

    TO me, I was trying to HArp that Part A was possible, not that it was true, just that it was possible.
    In the case that A doesn't make sense (for insert reason) and therefore false
    Then B is true


    I don't know how there was a clearer way to write this

  22. ISO #1972

  23. ISO #1973

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lol so I got a Town role pm.
    Then during the night one my role was corrected.

    Good game I guess lol
    what was your "original role? lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  24. ISO #1974

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by ccantman View Post
    So that is my question, How do I articulate it better.

    Just using the above quote as an example.
    I kept trying to explain my target on you was only if we had 1 WD.

    Step 1:
    Ackowledge that we had two witch doctors
    Step 2:
    There are two ways to get to two witch doctors
    A)A doctor was converted
    B)WE started with two Witch doctors

    Lets start from this part. Is there some way that my step 2 analyze is wrong? Because this was the only point I was trying to get through for most of the part.

    If we accept that Step 2 is true.

    Then we take each part seperatly
    PArt A- A doctor was converted
    The break down of this is what leads to Fury and what my whole argument ON THAT PART was
    PArt B- We started with two WD's

    I was always open to the idea that either of these were possible, but my question was to the rest of the players which do you think is true.

    And then the conclusion

    IF you think PArt A is true, Fury is guilty
    IF you think part B is true, sino was guilty

    TO me, I was trying to HArp that Part A was possible, not that it was true, just that it was possible.
    In the case that A doesn't make sense (for insert reason) and therefore false
    Then B is true


    I don't know how there was a clearer way to write this
    Yeha, that makes sense. But it seemed like you were trying to paint fury as evil, at a time when he was town read. He was evil. So I have to have more of an open mind I guess. But as frog said, 2 sk's in this set up was not going to lead to a town victory.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  25. ISO #1975

  26. ISO #1976

  27. ISO #1977

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by ccantman View Post
    That is why my vote was on Sino and not you.

    But despite the logic break down on why Sino was my vote, i was "tunneling Fury" and voting Sino
    You were tunneling him though -- you kept fighting for your one option to be correct..and that he had to be sk (which he was). I mean you replaced in and we were all there from the start so I couldn't see the game as objectively as you could. Regardless mistakes were made, I've apologized 4 times now and you're still harping on this for some reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  28. ISO #1978

  29. ISO #1979

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    I just don't understand the need to rehash it. Ccantman was right, and I was wrong, and you were SK lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  30. ISO #1980

  31. ISO #1981

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I just don't understand the need to rehash it. Ccantman was right, and I was wrong, and you were SK lol.
    You can be coincidentally right for the wrong reasons. He was only right if the game started with 1 WD. It didn't. By his own logic, I couldn't have been SK.

    Right? If the game started with 2 WD's, then I was 100% not SK (according to him).
    @PowersThatBe and @ccantman

    I'd recommend you look into the Gettier problem if you want to learn more ^_^
    Last edited by Fury; April 15th, 2017 at 10:26 AM.

  32. ISO #1982

    Re: M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    For someone who barely participated (myself) I am definitely not salty, just don't understand some people's thought process. You totally derped. It's chill though. Who are you?
    Can you explain my 'totally derped' play?

    Or was this just a comment made in anger?

    I don't think I could have played better in the spot I was given.

    Curious to hear your thoughts.

    If it's just an angry comment, no problem mate.

    We all get salty. Just try not to be so immature. ;)

    Makes for a better community.

 

 

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