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[Unknown1234]

Maybe he's on his period as well.

Savage.

[BananaCucho]

Also, why aren't you newbs actually voting scummy superjack?
I want that much more than a policy lynch today.

Again ----- points for fire. Arrows L-2 and he states this

[PowersThatBe]

No.

Because we have a Vigi.
The Vigi will shoot Arrow tonight who will have a "2/3" chance in killing him
As opposed to a 2/3 change among a crowd of town for one person to choose.

So we basically, as a collective, get to choose an extra person to kill. Rather than leave that decision to one person.


Also, if we act in anyway that Arrow is going to be our lynch today, no one will take discussion seriously and scum have a free day.

No. We're definitely lynching arrow.

[PowersThatBe]

Jack trying to pull this train off arrow makes him look super scummy.

[Mesk514]

If arrow is town do not shoot any one, unless you're super confident

[BananaCucho]

I agree with this statement, but I'd rather vote for SJ.

-vote Superjack

Since no one is going to vote for stereo today...

This was in response to fires petition to vote SJ. First vote to switch. DW is town but was swayed by fire

[PowersThatBe]

WE ARE NOT LYNCHING ARROW TODAY. WE ARE LYNCHING SOMEONE ELSE, SO LETS FIND THE SCUM AND LEAVE VIGI TO DEAL WITH ARROW

We are lynching arrow, vigi can deal with the suspect. it makes no difference.

[Stereo]

No.

Because we have a Vigi.
The Vigi will shoot Arrow tonight who will have a "2/3" chance in killing him
As opposed to a 2/3 change among a crowd of town for one person to choose.

So we basically, as a collective, get to choose an extra person to kill. Rather than leave that decision to one person.

Also, if we act in anyway that Arrow is going to be our lynch today, no one will take discussion seriously and scum have a free day.

yeah, the vig bullet (66% chance) against the rope (100% chance).

I've played enough X-Com to know that 66% will deflect that bullet. We can still entertain serious thought by looking at everything that has happened BEFORE Arrow surrendered himself.

[BananaCucho]

Naah I am giving arrow time to improve. SuperJack is where its at.

This was in response to PTB trying to keep the Arrow lynch together

[PowersThatBe]

If arrow is town do not shoot any one, unless you're super confident

Oh, arrow claimed vigi and was CC'd and then gave up. He's scum.

[Quick]

No.

Because we have a Vigi.
The Vigi will shoot Arrow tonight who will have a "2/3" chance in killing him
As opposed to a 2/3 change among a crowd of town for one person to choose.

So we basically, as a collective, get to choose an extra person to kill. Rather than leave that decision to one person.


Also, if we act in anyway that Arrow is going to be our lynch today, no one will take discussion seriously and scum have a free day.

Take the sure thing. We still get a kill at night. Better to know for sure that we are killing scum.

We are lynching Arrow today, end of discussion.

[SuperJack]

Jack trying to pull this train off arrow makes him look super scummy.

If you do not even show that you are willing to lynch someone else.
You will not be able to pressure ANYONE, and thereby ending the days discussion.


Its the equivalent of being a Batman Villain. You are free to do the fuck you want, cause you know he wont kill you.

[Mesk514]

Oh, arrow claimed vigi and was CC'd and then gave up. He's scum.

You're the best synopsis person ever.

[Unknown1234]

I'm just gonna leave because I'm too tired for this.

Unless he's voted in the next 70 minutes, just wait for the entire day because he cannot be lynched until before the 24 or the 48 hour mark.

[BananaCucho]

-vote superjack

@Mesk514 and @Unknown1234 follow ptb!!

PTB flipped second.

I think its a possibility that everyone on that original Arrow train was town and they only jumped after fire came along

[Stereo]

the CC needed about 1000% more drama, so underwhelming

[PowersThatBe]

If you do not even show that you are willing to lynch someone else.
You will not be able to pressure ANYONE, and thereby ending the days discussion.


Its the equivalent of being a Batman Villain. You are free to do the fuck you want, cause you know he wont kill you.

We can come to a consensus on who the vigi is to shoot.

[Quick]

I just want to point out that if Vig is not X-Shot, they should shoot every night. This creates a double day if Vig shoots who is likely to be lynched next day. This statistically works in Towns favor.

[BananaCucho]

-vote SuperJack

I may not be here for the end if the final votes are put in, so consider me locked in.

Stereo put the 4th vote on SJ. --points stereo

[SuperJack]

@BananaCucho

Please explain to them, that if they stick with an Arrow lynch only today, that it puts an end to any of todays discussion and pressure.
If they allow someone else to be an option to lynch, the rest of the day can be used.

And then Explain to them how its Mathimatically just as logical to shoot arrow by Vigi, and lynch someone else. As opposed to Lynching Arrow and letting a sole person choose who dies.




EVEN if the worst happens, and we lynch a town, vigi shoots a town, and scum kill a town.


We still have Majority and can lynch Arrow.

[PowersThatBe]

PTB flipped second.

I think its a possibility that everyone on that original Arrow train was town and they only jumped after fire came along

True, I wanted Arrow lynched...I also read Jack as scum, so I decided to make a concession to fight against the PL. I figured it was better to get a consensus scum lynch than a PL. Once I saw someone move I thought we could make it happen.

[Stereo]

Stereo put the 4th vote on SJ. --points stereo

That's ---- for me, right? Or did I start with some before you put those numbers out?

[Mesk514]

I'm really thinking that quick & gyrlander are last 2 scum

[SuperJack]

We can come to a consensus on who the vigi is to shoot.

Lynch>Vigi Threat

[SuperJack]

I'm really thinking that quick & gyrlander are last 2 scum

WIZARD OF OZ

BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE.





plz explain why.

[Quick]

@BananaCucho

Please explain to them, that if they stick with an Arrow lynch only today, that it puts an end to any of todays discussion and pressure.
If they allow someone else to be an option to lynch, the rest of the day can be used.

And then Explain to them how its Mathimatically just as logical to shoot arrow by Vigi, and lynch someone else. As opposed to Lynching Arrow and letting a sole person choose who dies.




EVEN if the worst happens, and we lynch a town, vigi shoots a town, and scum kill a town.


We still have Majority and can lynch Arrow.

We could actually still lynch early and vig could shoot stereo and we would still be in good shape as Town even if stereo is Scum. The lynch pool will shrink until only the town block remains.

[PowersThatBe]

@BananaCucho

Please explain to them, that if they stick with an Arrow lynch only today, that it puts an end to any of todays discussion and pressure.
If they allow someone else to be an option to lynch, the rest of the day can be used.

And then Explain to them how its Mathimatically just as logical to shoot arrow by Vigi, and lynch someone else. As opposed to Lynching Arrow and letting a sole person choose who dies.




EVEN if the worst happens, and we lynch a town, vigi shoots a town, and scum kill a town.


We still have Majority and can lynch Arrow.

NO. Lynch confirmed scum. Go through posts.

If we Mislynch today and Arrow is fucking GF (there's no way you could know he isnt without cheating or being scum yourself) then we lose two town, and then what happens tomorrow? It's 3 scum vs 7 town and like 4 votes to lynch. I don;'t like that, they could easily get someone a townie who didnt catch up and another mislynch could happen.

I dont like it.

[Quick]

We could actually still lynch early and vig could shoot stereo and we would still be in good shape as Town even if stereo is Town. The lynch pool will shrink until only the town block remains.

EBWOP

[Stereo]

We could actually still lynch early and vig could shoot stereo and we would still be in good shape as Town even if stereo is Scum.

which I'm not, but it's not like I am going to come out and say "hey, i am scum, plz shoot me"

[Stereo]

"hey, i am scum, plz shoot me"

bake him away toys, we got him

[PowersThatBe]

I'm really thinking that quick & gyrlander are last 2 scum

Quick cc'd Arrow.

[Mesk514]

Quick cc'd Arrow.

Well then. RIP Stereo

[PowersThatBe]

And jacks theory is bs because we can put people on pressure for vigi kill or tomorrows lynch.

Not lynching arrow is not good for town.

[SuperJack]

NO. Lynch confirmed scum. Go through posts.

If we Mislynch today and Arrow is fucking GF (there's no way you could know he isnt without cheating or being scum yourself) then we lose two town, and then what happens tomorrow? It's 3 scum vs 7 town and like 4 votes to lynch. I don;'t like that, they could easily get someone a townie who didnt catch up and another mislynch could happen.

I dont like it.

Stop it with the terrible possibilitys

"they could easily get someone a townie who didnt catch up and another mislynch could happen"

hence why you organize lynches when more town are alive.

[PowersThatBe]

SJ you're seeming scum again to me. Given the fact that Arrow scum read you but wouldnt vote for you. Why is that?

[Arrow]

If you're lynching me today, you're all liars if you don't do it in the next 60 minutes.

[Mesk514]

If you're lynching me today, you're all liars if you don't do it in the next 60 minutes.

..... my vote has been on yah.....

[Stereo]

If you're lynching me today, you're all liars if you don't do it in the next 60 minutes.

pft, it's 60 minutes for YOU, but we'll perceive it as 24 hours.

it's that time distortion thing

[Quick]

I am tempted to vote SJ now.

[SuperJack]

And jacks theory is bs because we can put people on pressure for vigi kill or tomorrows lynch.

Not lynching arrow is not good for town.

Ok. Im just gonna put it out plain and simple. Maybe you will understand:


ACT

as if.

arrow.

is gonna be killed by vigi.





so that we have the full threat of a lynch.








AKA: Never let the scum know you are settled on a lynch, especially when half the day is left. This way full pressure can be used to aid discussion.
Unless we are in the last hour of the day, ANYONE can be lynched.

Act like that, pretend you are open to lynch anyone scummy, use that pressure

This is why you never open with a Sheriff claim, and Instead you just make a convincing ISO part way through the day.

[Arrow]

I'm going to bed. I want to wake up dead.

[PowersThatBe]

Stop it with the terrible possibilitys

"they could easily get someone a townie who didnt catch up and another mislynch could happen"

hence why you organize lynches when more town are alive.

Are you kidding Mesk has been afk, Yzb afk, FB afk. Mesk and FB aren't going to read up and see what happened.

[BananaCucho]

OKAY. While you all were jacking off on the thread I finished my day 1 reread

-vote Firebringer

I am pretty certain this is scum for one main reason - fire was the main instigator of flipping the wagon from Arrow onto SJ. Fire was suspicious of Arrow day 1 but when Arrow was in trouble he would have rather given him time to improve. Fire was persuasive enough to get DW (confirmed town) and PTB to flip and then more votes followed.

The only other 2 people I suspect are yzb and stereo.

Yzb: my early analysis was that yzb called out Arrow when no one else did - once arrow responded though he reversed course when arrow was only L-5 (2 votes) and upgraded him to a null read. It kind of felt forced - like he was trying to encourage arrow and guide him into a better place. And Unknown noticed his sudden reversal.

Stereo: he threw the 4th vote down on SJ, making it a serious wagon as Arrows wagon lost steam (but still had a few votes) He then sheep hammered AR. He never however voted Arrow - just the two counter wagons.

I'd probably give the slight edge to stereo over yzb but not by much.

[SuperJack]

Are you kidding Mesk has been afk, Yzb afk, FB afk. Mesk and FB aren't going to read up and see what happened.

So then threaten them with a lynch, so that they have to contribute for the rest of the day.

[PowersThatBe]

-vote Arrow

Sorry I'm not taking the risk.

Vigi shoot stereo or SJ

[Mesk514]

CRYLANDER WORKS TOO

[PowersThatBe]

Shoot stereo vote arrow today

[Quick]

Ok. Im just gonna put it out plain and simple. Maybe you will understand:


ACT

as if.

arrow.

is gonna be killed by vigi.





so that we have the full threat of a lynch.








AKA: Never let the scum know you are settled on a lynch, especially when half the day is left. This way full pressure can be used to aid discussion.
Unless we are in the last hour of the day, ANYONE can be lynched.

Act like that, pretend you are open to lynch anyone scummy, use that pressure

This is why you never open with a Sheriff claim, and Instead you just make a convincing ISO part way through the day.

We have a full day of content to go through with a confirmed Scum. Its a great time to Town hunt.

[SuperJack]

-vote Arrow

Sorry I'm not taking the risk.

Vigi shoot stereo or SJ

Act, Pretend, put on a show, Lie.

Whats up with you, do you speak Pineapple?

[Quick]

Shoot stereo vote arrow today

I'm having second thoughts about shooting stereo actually.

I think Unknow, Banana or SJ should be killed instead.