Look, I'm an 'in the moment' type player, so while I can catch up, it will take a long time and not pay too many dividends. If you don't believe this, consider me scum and vote me, and then I can vote you for going after low hanging fruit.
Look, I'm an 'in the moment' type player, so while I can catch up, it will take a long time and not pay too many dividends. If you don't believe this, consider me scum and vote me, and then I can vote you for going after low hanging fruit.
Feeling a bit more happy seeing some more posts, of course i will now do a read on Fatalis at the moment.
Interesting Reads list. Still somewhat lacking in the information. Let me ask you this. Do you agree with what Duck did? Why do you feel i am Luciano and Kovath is FBI? I don't follow why you feel which one we could possibly be. Can you define "weirdest feelings" ?
Why do you feel like Voss is town? Why does his reaction feel real? "gut feeling" is not really something that should be used to describe who you think is scum. Can you explain this more?
Few other comments that seem useless, such as:
Overall, still lacking a strong opinion for him. Will re-collect new information when provided.
@joker since you are here can you update us on your read on shifty?
You gave him a null read previously, is this still accurate?
You referred to your top scum as "shiftyduck" is this a freudianslip of you naming your teammate because you know he is mafia?
-DucK
Rurouni: Very little (similar to Fatalis) will do the best that i can.
So are you saying that you think he is scum because there is no reason to see him as town? Would appreciate if you could provide more on this opinion.
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Mmm, just curious about this. Why are you commenting on other votes when you yourself have not exactly explained your own vote? Rather suspicious and in a way just looking for someone else to vote, meaning a lynch train to jump on.
I can relate to this. I have a hard time going back through EVERYTHING, which is specifically why i haven't done the largest reads, so much information i just get too bored of it. As for the comment, somewhat irrelevant but i can't say this makes me feel any different on him.
That's it. Not a lot at all.
I'm trying to catch up, give me a break, JEEEZZZZEEEE!
@Unknown1234 is there a specific player's playstyle you are trying to mimic this game?
-DucK
Duck:
The duck team is one that i would almost never vote. I can say honestly from this game and previous games that they are not scum, and i will say why.
1.) How they act. The reveal is not something a scum would do, i understand this has been slightly covered so i apologize. I cannot see this being a good motive for a scum player to do. Especially with this role, the Luciano's need all the help they can get, why would they take this role? Definitely not a FBI agent at this point, i doubt the FBI agent would claim something that has chance for it to be revealed. The interactions that i have seen duck involved in are as followed: Duck and I, Duck and Calix, slight bit of interaction between Sino and Duck. This is important to look at because the interactions between players is really important to consider. This slot normally gets acknowledged for being in the spotlight, but this game it seems to be a different play. Why do i say this? Because when we were scum together he constantly tunneled me. Last game, he was tunneling me and then stopped. Well, at that point i had to ask myself why, and it is very obvious to me. If your a town, your not close-minded. Your more open to seeing different perspectives on different people, and you don't likely focus on a single player. He has been a lot more optimistic and open-minded about this game, and i really do look at this as a town play. His Calix conversation was not the most detailed, i wouldn't pick a lot out of it. As was the one with me. With Sino he had more input i believe, but all in consideration he is not having weird comments or anything i would find scummy. He has also been more involved in this game i believe. He is more involved in hunting down groups of people, which is something in the past that wasn't highly noticed.
At this point, i am really tired and i am starting to see a repetition in my argument, so i will take the last four reads for tomorrow. Any questions i will take time now to answer them.
During that 10 hour block I never once said "wow these non posters are useless" What I have said is, your posts after coming back have been laughable. You were asleep, and that is okay, but you are here now and voting against your reads.
If you are an "in the moment" player than create dialogue with the people around and vote based on that.
-DucK
I do however have a Town read on Unknown based on being naively Town and explaining their thought process in detail.
I agree with this obviously because it town reads me. The only thing I disagree with is my involvement. I am equally involved in every game. If I had rolled cult, I would have been fucking depressed, but I would have still tried 100%.
Also @Unknown1234 keep in mind that when fatalis noted a possible scumslip of you, I immediately knocked it down as NAI. While it contradicts my point because I am the one bringing it up, I had a very easy chance to throw more pressure onto unknown and deflected off of him for an accurate reason.
I have also attacked many players this game. Scum want to make friends, not piss off the entire town. Then again I am pretty reckless.
Now the question for me is, what is an untunneled scum unknown capable of?
-DucK
I guess my missed that..
don't agree but it shows town motives
you can always predict alignments, its like trying to distinguish SK from maf in this case
weirdest plays, most un readable
bcs Voss' post says his honest thoughts and the tone seems honest, I try to create a complete personality of each player in my mind
i most often just go along with my feelings.. its usually right
but here, I'll try to elaborate the case on you: I dont think YOUR commenting on every single post is a sign of actively trying to scumhunt. it feels artificial and you are running around in place instead of trying to push scumhunting forward
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@Fatalis , you said Pile on the votes without questioning my read on that slot at all and I thought it was a scummy reaction.
Fatalis is really towny for me at the current moment. ( I swear I am not trying to town read people who have me as town and vice versa.)
The fact he is reading people off what he perceives their agenda is, and not off whether or not he agrees with their logic.
Does mafia fatalis really care for unknown's motive, or how genuine voss seems? It is possible, many good players do it, but I think it is more likely that mafia overlook these things and try to find holes in weak logic or posts that are vague and easy to misinterpret.
-DucK
@Fatalis while your hear, let me ask you this just based on what you just said.
Are you telling me that my posts aren't honest? What is your opinion on the difference between mine and his then.
You cannot assume a FBI Agent and a Luciano will act differently. Is a Cultist going to act differently then two mafias? They are both going for town trust and to lynch the enemy, i think your justification on this is lousy.
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eww to what? We aren't always responding with each other, but a select few. If people post their full reads we are able to force mistakes from scum, and see who has been consistent with their play and find out their agenda and intent. If we lynch somebody who is mafia, and nobody posts read lists, everyone can just be like "oh I had them as null was not really sure, whoops!" This forces them to make a stance, and if they null read someone who posted a lot of content they better have a good reason.
-DucK
I had the exact same read on you, and kovath. I have since reevaluated on you. I didn't mention or pressure you for it because it was a very loose read, but I can still see how one got to that conclusion. It isn't that you are this name or that name, but you are a team of 2 or a team of 1. The amount of evils in a group drastically altar the flow of the game, and how it is played IMO
I am interested in anyone's thoughts on that last bit if they are interested regardless of their stance.
-DucK
I'm going to start signing my posts if I can remember.
I think I have been the only one to post itt from this Archon.
~Quick.
i understand what you are saying
i DO question the reason for your vote when I first see it
but it was your goddamn first post and was waiting for more posts instead of judging you on a first post where you clearly indicate you haven't completely catch up
also like duck said, obviously I would like my top scum read to get voted on
You are being really inconsistent, in your votes, your logic, and now your read on me.
I called you out for your bad vote, which you were thinking someone should have done, so you should have me more town than fatalis in your eyes.
You cant say "ew" to logic, and scum read someone for it. Tell me why it is terrible or else I can say ew to anything.
-DucK
Also, Me and AIVION talked a lot about this game and strategy about it and strategy in general. Like, really extensively. So If I am coming across different than previously that would be why.
~Quick
@Fatalis you don't have a vote on. Any reason in Particular if you have an idea of who you want lynched?