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  1. ISO #851

  2. ISO #852

    Re: S-FM 194: Return to Normalcy Mini

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni View Post
    Report POD for making all scum newbie. Imbalance to fight again lel
    Whad wasn't bad -- he just overplayed his hand by buddying Iced, misrepping me, reading Mesk as softclaiming Jester (?), and making an odd soft role claim of his own. It was a little too much scummy behavior for Day 1, I think.

  3. ISO #853

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    Meh good game.
    i guess I should have gunned for Calix Day 2 instead of Day 1, made myself too obvious.
    Second time being a Exe, and I did same error I did in other game.

    Though in fairness, my test on darkness was legit test. I figured out Mesk was scum though I thought SuperJack was the other.
    Good game guys, well played by town.
    Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.

  4. ISO #854

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Meh good game.
    i guess I should have gunned for Calix Day 2 instead of Day 1, made myself too obvious.
    Second time being a Exe, and I did same error I did in other game.

    Though in fairness, my test on darkness was legit test. I figured out Mesk was scum though I thought SuperJack was the other.
    Good game guys, well played by town.
    Let's be honest -- you were kind of screwed when you rolled Calix as your target given how notoriously hard she is to lynch. Sort of like how Paladin auto-won when he rolled Calix as the person who couldn't get lynched in Romeo and Juliet. You might have had a chance if Calix died and you changed into a Jester though.

  5. ISO #855

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessB View Post
    Let's be honest -- you were kind of screwed when you rolled Calix as your target given how notoriously hard she is to lynch. Sort of like how Paladin auto-won when he rolled Calix as the person who couldn't get lynched in Romeo and Juliet. You might have had a chance if Calix died and you changed into a Jester though.
    Yeah, I kinda knew that.
    Thats why I started phoning it in near the end which made me even more obvious neutral.

    Though I honestly don't see how I was neutral before that. I was legitimately trying to read players (besides Calix).
    Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.

  6. ISO #856

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    I don't think the setup here was unbalanced.
    Though I don't know. It seems like it would be just a CC fest if any of the PR (including scum) were to claim.
    I was the only scum not really tied to a fake claim by role alone.

    I don't know. I think the design could have been more....CC driven?
    Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.

  7. ISO #857

    Re: S-FM 194: Return to Normalcy Mini

    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessB View Post
    Let's be honest -- you were kind of screwed when you rolled Calix as your target given how notoriously hard she is to lynch. Sort of like how Paladin auto-won when he rolled Calix as the person who couldn't get lynched in Romeo and Juliet. You might have had a chance if Calix died and you changed into a Jester though.
    How to lynch Calix?
    Tip 1 and only: never solo


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    A rare Yuki in ultimate form

    Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~

  8. ISO #858

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    I don't think the setup here was unbalanced.
    Though I don't know. It seems like it would be just a CC fest if any of the PR (including scum) were to claim.
    I was the only scum not really tied to a fake claim by role alone.

    I don't know. I think the design could have been more....CC driven?
    Honestly, it would have been even more CC driven except Whad died Night 1 before he and Unknown could really clash over Kidnapper / Jailor. Mesk soft claimed Lookout on Day 1, but SuperJack, by his own admission, didn't even read Day 1 (I wish I were making this up, and it's due for a separate discussion...), so there was no possible CC clash there. Later in the game, it came out that both were claiming Lookout so we got the CC clash over them two, which decided the game.

  9. ISO #859

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    Congratulations town on your win! And thank you Powerofdeath for hosting a fun game! I thoroughly enjoyed it.

    Here are some things I didn't get to say earlier that I wanted to mention now:

    Spoiler : AIVION/SuperJack :
    AIVION
    I initially read the following post as a citizen claim since I have played many games on the SC2mafia mod where Any Randoms were set with the settings to only generate citizens.

    Quote Originally Posted by AIVION View Post
    I has thoughts yes, and If this was the mod the game would look like this!

    Any Random
    Any Random
    Any Random
    Any Random
    Any Random
    Any Random
    Random Mafia
    Random Mafia
    Random Neutral

    Any Random = Exclude Triad,Mafia,Neutral.
    It's a shame that you had to replace out of the game.

    Superjack, I was sad that you never responded to my question to you this game.


    Spoiler : Calix :
    Impressive night 1 action. I think that along with your last will may have been instrumental in the town win this game. Mesk and I were simply out maneuvered in our night action planning. Way to go.

    My case against you was legitimate, however. As scum or as town I do like to personally vet the "town leader" characters in games until I feel some level of confidence in the most vocal person leading daychat.


    Spoiler : DarknessB :
    I did find your informational posts very suspicious but now it is apparent that they were answers to legitimate questions posed by the playerbase. I wish everyone was as good at reading setups and knowing that you never reveal TPRs for no reason! Great job stepping up in the late game to lead the town to victory.


    Spoiler : Firebringer :
    During Day 1 I found that we noticed the same things were scummy... except you were more available online and would post about them before I could get to them! I was really worried that people would call me out for "sheeping" your reads, however nobody really seemed to pick up on that much. You've definitely made my list of people to observe in the next SFM game. :P I had a lot of fun reading your posts as well.


    Spoiler : Iced Monopoly :
    Iced_Monopoly I tried to buddy with you to lay breadcrumbs/groundwork for a citizen claim. (aka that's what I was going for by saying we had the "same" role). Unfortunately for me you were not buying it.

    Also, I wanted to just point out that you kept correcting Calix saying that she confused us about calling out Mesk. This wasn't exactly true. I called out Mesk as scummy in post #302:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whad View Post
    Mesk, I find it scummy that you keep pointing out why certain players seem townie but have yet to voice your own suspicious. It reads to me as potential scum buddying up with a variety of people: Calix, me, AIVION, ... and also like scum who is having a hard time scumhunting since you bear overwhelming guilt since you know you are the scum.
    and then you voiced very similar suspicions in #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    Never mind there wasnt all that much to read through, so shes done little to post so far, besides her reads list which was pretty bland. It had almost every player listed as either being nice and innocent, or excusing potential scum activity as just a misunderstanding. Her views aligned with mine on Whad and actually got me to more deeply consider my theory of his sheeping, but other than that shes only posted a couple of actual scum reads, which could have some merit, but arent quite so in depth. Looking forward to seeing more, so far im leaning unaligned, with potential light scum given her need to appease players and taking shots at some of the easier targets
    This all came across like you trying to grab all the town points for calling Mesk out which I was hoping to call you out for. I was hoping to get into some good clash with you on Day 2 about this but alas that moment never came. In any case, great job keeping a level head in this game and staying active and engaged. You were a fun player


    Spoiler : Mesk :
    Oh Mesk, it was so much fun being scum with you. I'm sorry I died so early and left you in a bit of a tight spot. I was impressed by your calm levelheadedness under pressure and how you wriggled out of a D1 lynch. Unfortunately we got outmaneuvered in the night actions and I got killed by the bodyguard.

    One thing that I noticed that I did this game that is a huge scumtell is to apply light pressure on the scum partner (as I did when I called you out for not having scum reads in #302) yet I never put my money where my mouth was with a vote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whad View Post
    Mesk, I find it scummy that you keep pointing out why certain players seem townie but have yet to voice your own suspicious. It reads to me as potential scum buddying up with a variety of people: Calix, me, AIVION, ... and also like scum who is having a hard time scumhunting since you bear overwhelming guilt since you know you are the scum.
    Luckily for us, our interactions in the daychat caused people to be suspicious of others like AIVION/Superjack and Unknown who I rarely interacted with. I was rooting for you at the end, but I think N1 just ended it for us. Fun times though and I hope to roll scum with you again soon so we can redeem ourselves.


    Spoiler : Unknown :
    Although we didn't interact much in this game, I have to give you a lot of credit for sticking to your guns and voicing opinions that weren't always popular such as wanting a D1 policy lynch on Yuki. It would have been a ton of fun if we had been able to CC each other in daychat and duke it all out. Can't wait to play the next game with you.


    Spoiler : Yukitaka Oni :
    Things got off to a rough start since I didn't quite understand your playstyle, but you've shown that when it counts you are more than capable of stepping up as a logical and productive member of the town. I have gathered that this is not typical of your usual playstyle, but I sincerely hope to see more of this new Yuki in a future game. It was particularly hilarious to hear people acting like the world was ending when you were making grammar corrections to Firebringer and otherwise acting like a voice of reason. Great job also making sure to quote and reference the last wills of town members who had died.
    I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.

  10. ISO #860

    Re: S-FM 194: Return to Normalcy Mini

    Quote Originally Posted by Whad View Post
    Congratulations town on your win! And thank you Powerofdeath for hosting a fun game! I thoroughly enjoyed it.

    Here are some things I didn't get to say earlier that I wanted to mention now:

    Spoiler : AIVION/SuperJack :
    AIVION
    I initially read the following post as a citizen claim since I have played many games on the SC2mafia mod where Any Randoms were set with the settings to only generate citizens.



    It's a shame that you had to replace out of the game.

    Superjack, I was sad that you never responded to my question to you this game.


    Spoiler : Calix :
    Impressive night 1 action. I think that along with your last will may have been instrumental in the town win this game. Mesk and I were simply out maneuvered in our night action planning. Way to go.

    My case against you was legitimate, however. As scum or as town I do like to personally vet the "town leader" characters in games until I feel some level of confidence in the most vocal person leading daychat.


    Spoiler : DarknessB :
    I did find your informational posts very suspicious but now it is apparent that they were answers to legitimate questions posed by the playerbase. I wish everyone was as good at reading setups and knowing that you never reveal TPRs for no reason! Great job stepping up in the late game to lead the town to victory.


    Spoiler : Firebringer :
    During Day 1 I found that we noticed the same things were scummy... except you were more available online and would post about them before I could get to them! I was really worried that people would call me out for "sheeping" your reads, however nobody really seemed to pick up on that much. You've definitely made my list of people to observe in the next SFM game. :P I had a lot of fun reading your posts as well.


    Spoiler : Iced Monopoly :
    Iced_Monopoly I tried to buddy with you to lay breadcrumbs/groundwork for a citizen claim. (aka that's what I was going for by saying we had the "same" role). Unfortunately for me you were not buying it.

    Also, I wanted to just point out that you kept correcting Calix saying that she confused us about calling out Mesk. This wasn't exactly true. I called out Mesk as scummy in post #302:



    and then you voiced very similar suspicions in #388


    This all came across like you trying to grab all the town points for calling Mesk out which I was hoping to call you out for. I was hoping to get into some good clash with you on Day 2 about this but alas that moment never came. In any case, great job keeping a level head in this game and staying active and engaged. You were a fun player


    Spoiler : Mesk :
    Oh Mesk, it was so much fun being scum with you. I'm sorry I died so early and left you in a bit of a tight spot. I was impressed by your calm levelheadedness under pressure and how you wriggled out of a D1 lynch. Unfortunately we got outmaneuvered in the night actions and I got killed by the bodyguard.

    One thing that I noticed that I did this game that is a huge scumtell is to apply light pressure on the scum partner (as I did when I called you out for not having scum reads in #302) yet I never put my money where my mouth was with a vote.



    Luckily for us, our interactions in the daychat caused people to be suspicious of others like AIVION/Superjack and Unknown who I rarely interacted with. I was rooting for you at the end, but I think N1 just ended it for us. Fun times though and I hope to roll scum with you again soon so we can redeem ourselves.


    Spoiler : Unknown :
    Although we didn't interact much in this game, I have to give you a lot of credit for sticking to your guns and voicing opinions that weren't always popular such as wanting a D1 policy lynch on Yuki. It would have been a ton of fun if we had been able to CC each other in daychat and duke it all out. Can't wait to play the next game with you.


    Spoiler : Yukitaka Oni :
    Things got off to a rough start since I didn't quite understand your playstyle, but you've shown that when it counts you are more than capable of stepping up as a logical and productive member of the town. I have gathered that this is not typical of your usual playstyle, but I sincerely hope to see more of this new Yuki in a future game. It was particularly hilarious to hear people acting like the world was ending when you were making grammar corrections to Firebringer and otherwise acting like a voice of reason. Great job also making sure to quote and reference the last wills of town members who had died.
    You shall not read me ^)O.o)>!!!!


    v)o.o)^
    A rare Yuki in ultimate form

    Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~

  11. ISO #861

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  12. ISO #862

    Re: S-FM 194: Return to Normalcy Mini

    This was quite something, eh?

    Town faltered a lot after Night 1. Being complacent over only having one scum to deal with does that to you. If it hadn't been for my LW and DB's persistence, then town would have been likely to dick around with Unknown's TPR power-tripping and doubt-casting on the obvtown Citizens. Iced was on the right track as well; he was analysing posts and not relying on 'mechanically solving the game' (which wasn't possible)

    In this setup, Jailor was a named Citizen, essentially. Trying to deprive the town of information via vote analysis and flips just so you can feel useful is almost never the optimal strategy.

    Speaking of TPRs, I would have 100% been down with a Mesk lynch on Day 1. Too bad SuperJack decided to not bother playing and you can't really lynch an uncounterclaimed TPR. Shit-posting, random votes, didn't read the game, didn't try to counter the other Lookout claim - he really phoned this in. I don't know why he even signs up anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

 

 

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