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    S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    S-FM Guns & Hooker

    Players List:
    1. RLVG
    2. Calix
    3. Brendan
    4. Ash
    5. Toadette
    6. MintBerry Crunch
    7. SuperJack


    Hooker
    Mafioso

    Cop
    Gunsmith
    Citizen
    Citizen
    Citizen


    Role cards:

    Hooker - Roleblock a player at night preventing them from taking any action. Target is not informed of being roleblocked. Share a night chat with Mafioso. Can also be sent to kill while role blocking someone.
    Mafioso - Share a night chat with Hooker. Can be sent to kill.
    Cop - Visit a player at night checking them of their alignment. Receive feedback if they are either Town aligned or Mafia aligned.
    Gunsmith - Visit a player at night giving them one shot gun that can be only shot during the day. Target will receive a feedback of being gunned. Gunning someone who already have a gun does not give them a second bullet, but will replace the gun they already owns. The shooter have 50% chance to be revealed as the shooter if the shooter decides to fire the gun.
    Citizen - Power in vote.


    Win Condition:
    Town: Gain 100% Majority
    Mafia: Gain 50% Majority.

    OoO:
    1. Roleblock
    2. Handing out guns
    3. Cop Investigate
    4. Factional Kill
    Possible Feedbacks:
    You have received a gun!
    Your target is a member of the Town.
    Your target is a member of the Mafia.
    Game start with Night 1 kill and actions.
    No Last wills or Death Notes
    51% majority is required to lynch.
    Day and night are 24 hours long with an exception of Day 1 which is 72 hours long.

    No editing, no deleting posts
    No cheating, skyping or gamethrowing
    You must post at least 5 times during the 24 hours day.
    Follow standard rules of most S-FMs
    No suicides

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    Re: S-FM Guns & Hooker

    hello, cop here
    Spoiler : Forum Mafia :

    FM VI: Ash (Sinner) FM VII: Glen (Drug Dealer) FM VIII: Liane (Vigilante) FM IX: Andrei (Reserved Proletarian) FM X: fm Deathfire123 (Modkilled Blacksmith) FM XI: Corki (Citizen) FM XIII: Phoebe (Bodyguard) FM XIV: Helena (Grave Robber) FM XV: FM Pikachu (Mayor) FM XVI: FM Master Chef (Escort)

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    hey ash im also a cop
    I love oops

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    Re: S-FM Guns & Hooker

    Night 1 has begun, Mafia is in night chat planning to kill someone while cop is investigating and gunsmith is making a gun for someone.

    ^Super Interesting RP!

    Old Roles List:
    Ash - Hooker
    RLVG - Mafioso
    Toadette - Cop
    MintBerry Crunch - Gunsmith
    Calix - Citizen
    Brendan - Citizen
    SuperJack - Citizen

    The new and old role list was and will be random.org'd.

    Good luck

    Night 1 ends in 24 hours.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Wtf? One minute I have one rolecard, the next I have a different one. Thanks Obama.
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    1. RLVG
    2. Calix
    3. Brendan
    4. Ash
    5. Toadette
    6. MintBerry Crunch

    Which one of these players is likely to kill SJ night 1 after 0 crumbs, given his recent terrible lurker and shitpost play? Probably someone who hasn't played with him in a while.

    Let's park a vote here for a minute.

    -vote Brendan
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    In fact, who the fuck WOULDN'T shoot Brendan?
    Brendan scum
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadette View Post
    1. RLVG
    2. Calix
    3. Brendan
    4. Ash
    5. Toadette
    6. MintBerry Crunch

    Which one of these players is likely to kill SJ night 1 after 0 crumbs, given his recent terrible lurker and shitpost play? Probably someone who hasn't played with him in a while.

    Let's park a vote here for a minute.

    -vote Brendan
    How are we meant to build enough pressure without placing more than one vote on a train? Scum only need two town votes on a train to quick-hammer and fuck us over, so that means we're forced to be careful before carelessly voting.

    (I'm not saying that you should unvote or that you're being careless, by the way. I'm just warning players before anyone bandwagons)

    I'm going to be using -FOS [player] for now to avoid that happening.

    I'm going to withhold on commenting on SuperJack's death, but I agree with the idea that pressuring the players who haven't played in a while is a good starting point. We don't have as much recent material on their meta, after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    You make a good point Calix

    -placeholder vote Brendan
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    If anyone has played in a setup like this before, do let us know.

    I'm not sure about the details of what the optimal strategy would be, aside from "don't end the day early" and "no mass-claims"

    I have another question. Should the person with the gun reveal?

    This is not necessarily a claim that I have a gun, I'm just wondering about the pros and cons of revealing. I'm not advocating for the person to reveal first thing either since it depends on how today goes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Good opening post by Calix, however subtly suggesting Mintberry or Ash as a best candidate because they haven't been around since literally forever.
    Hopefully Ash has grown up some. /S
    Well yes, I do think that questioning the players whose meta/ playstyle we are not as familiar with is something that should be done. None of the mentioned players are here, so no point in focusing on them as of yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    Well yes, I do think that questioning the players whose meta/ playstyle we are not as familiar with is something that should be done. None of the mentioned players are here, so no point in focusing on them as of yet.
    Ash is the forum's psuedo mascot for trolling, keep that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    It's counterproductive to have this psuedo vote but voting anyway lol.
    I forgot to unvote lol. Fixed already

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    If anyone has played in a setup like this before, do let us know.

    I'm not sure about the details of what the optimal strategy would be, aside from "don't end the day early" and "no mass-claims"

    I have another question. Should the person with the gun reveal?

    This is not necessarily a claim that I have a gun, I'm just wondering about the pros and cons of revealing. I'm not advocating for the person to reveal first thing either since it depends on how today goes.
    Considers... If Mafia got the gun the game could end day 1

    Considering that its kinda MLYLO, I do think shooting the gun today is the best move because 3v2 LYLO is better odds of lynching a scum than 4v2 MLYLO, and if a scum is hit that quickly flips things in our favor.
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Ash is the forum's psuedo mascot for trolling, keep that in mind.
    You have anything on Mintberry? I think I've seen them in a few games back in the dinosaur age...that's about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    RLVG has to be on board with lynching day 1 though for it to happen
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I think no one should claim having the gun for the sake of having an ace up our sleeve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    You have anything on Mintberry? I think I've seen them in a few games back in the dinosaur age...that's about it.
    I've forgotten how he played, but we did play a few games together if you feel like going all stalkerino.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadette View Post
    RLVG has to be on board with lynching day 1 though for it to happen
    A) You assume he's town.

    B) No-Lynching isn't necessarily a bad strategy either, but that's mainly for the reasons of "3v2 is easier to manage than 4v2" - with the benefit of having more time to discuss things and you also have information on who the mafia thought was a threat/ Cop.

    The obvious problem with that is that it reduces the chance of the dead person being mafia to 0%, which is why I am leaning towards having a gunman shoot.

    Regardless of wherever they reveal, the gunman should NOT shoot for at least 24 hours (if not 4
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    A) You assume he's town.

    B) No-Lynching isn't necessarily a bad strategy either, but that's mainly for the reasons of "3v2 is easier to manage than 4v2" - with the benefit of having more time to discuss things and you also have information on who the mafia thought was a threat/ Cop.

    The obvious problem with that is that it reduces the chance of the dead person being mafia to 0%, which is why I am leaning towards having a gunman shoot.

    Regardless of wherever they reveal, the gunman should NOT shoot for at least 24 hours (if not 4
    If we no lynch and mafia has the gun, its GG because they kill at night, and shoot first thing day 2. We can't no lynch for that reason.
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    No lynch can still lead to a loss if the guy shoots a town and isn't roleblocked, so I dunno about no lynch because we all know this : Are you a fucking vigilante in any shape or form, you fucking shoot.
    ^^
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    No lynch can still lead to a loss if the guy shoots a town and isn't roleblocked, so I dunno about no lynch because we all know this : Are you a fucking vigilante in any shape or form, you fucking shoot.
    This seems sensible. However I don't understand what the Consort has to do with anything. Do they not act during the night?
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Calix View Post
    This seems sensible. However I don't understand what the Consort has to do with anything. Do they not act during the night?
    Consort exists to block cop, that's it
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadette View Post
    If we no lynch and mafia has the gun, its GG because they kill at night, and shoot first thing day 2. We can't no lynch for that reason.
    Hmm.

    Gunsmith - Visit a player at night giving them one shot gun that can be only shot during the day. Target will receive a feedback of being gunned. Gunning someone who already have a gun does not give them a second bullet, but will replace the gun they already owns. The shooter have 50% chance to be revealed as the shooter if the shooter decides to fire the gun.
    gun that can be only shot during the day.
    The shooter have 50% chance to be revealed as the shooter if the shooter decides to fire the gun.
    I see the sub-optimal strategy for Mafia.
    I announce we avoid it by having no intend of voting until we have the intend to lynch quick enough to not let a gun happen.

    This is the reason.

    6 players = 4 votes to lynch.
    Shoot player, someone dies.
    5 players = 3 votes to lynch.

    Is it possible to shoot someone while someone have three votes, resulting in an immediate hammer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadette View Post
    Consort exists to block cop, that's it
    If we play well enough, that won't be a problem
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Would lol if SJ forgot to give a gun out
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    We have 72 hours

    I don't think we'll need that long but assuming RLVGs plan works and dayflip from gunshot happens after the shot instead of at day end, gun should be shot by hour 48 at the latest I think, earlier if possible

    Also yeah, pseudo votes only until then
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Game was delayed probably to prod him if it was the case.
    Likely. I doubt POD would just let one of the main mechanics of this game slip by.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    I have an idea:

    After the first 24 hours, whoever has the gun should anoumce they have it. Since they should be shooting it day 1 I see mo problem / downside to this.

    They also need to announce who they are shooting for the sake of transparency. That way if they aren't revealed, they can't deny using the gun (if they are Mafia)

    Then by hour 48 shoot, we use 3 votes to lynch instead of 4
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by Toadette View Post
    I have an idea:

    After the first 24 hours, whoever has the gun should anoumce they have it. Since they should be shooting it day 1 I see mo problem / downside to this.

    They also need to announce who they are shooting for the sake of transparency. That way if they aren't revealed, they can't deny using the gun (if they are Mafia)

    Then by hour 48 shoot, we use 3 votes to lynch instead of 4
    I think we should give the shooter two targets to shoot. That way we get information about the gunman's motivations from the choice that they make.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    And if the Mafia has the gun and isn't claiming to have a gun?
    That's still information about the strategy that Mafia is using, no?
    Quote Originally Posted by Orpz View Post
    Why'd you leave out the sun emoji? I think it creates a huge sense of tone that is critical for the interpretation of the chat.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Romeo View Post
    Go fuck yourself in the cucho.
    Quote Originally Posted by MattZed
    Your accent has ruined medieval fantasy films.

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    The smartest thing the Mafia can really do is to keep quiet about the gun since I don't really see the reason to make a gambit claiming it.
    You don't know that all of us else has a gun, I don't know that you all have a gun, et cetera, a starvation of information.
    Which is why the gun should be claimed.
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    ... I just made a reason for the gun holder to claim if he's town lol.
    Yes lol
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Re: S-FM 183: Guns & Hooker

    Claiming gun does not mean claiming role, so claiming gun is the very pro town move to do. No downside to it.
    :toad:

    Spoiler : O.o :
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWolf
    Why are you being an anti town bitch? You got a fucking point or just a major fucking attitude problem? I dare you to take me on with a game related case cuz I'll tear it apart.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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