Sen (Thomas Grant)
NumberTwo (Lilliam Brady
ika (David Graham, Edward O'Connor)
Fragos (Ernest Mitchell)
Calix (Thomas King, Ernest Mitchell)
SuperJack (Thomas King)
Klingoncelt (Margaret Smith)
Firebringer (Bertha Anderson)
Orpz (Roy Larkins)
Frozen Angel (William Reed)
Mikecall (Clara Wilson)
Apocist (Joseph Johnson)
Timetrx (Walter Livingston)
Secondpassing (Ethel McAllister, Clarence Shephard)
powerofdeath (Florence Palmer)
Helz (Harry Smith)
Damus_Graves (Mary Hughes)
ThePaladin (Fred Robinson)
Silverwolf (Gertrude Banks)
AIVION (Thomas Grant)
I will be getting off for a few hours, I support this current plan. I also encourage more players to vote Mary Hughes to get them talking, I know they were here earlier.
Catch you chaps in a while.
ok sorry
this setup is incredibly complicated as I can see it. well I didn't completly analysed the setup yet.
I'm a new player in SC2 , I am a MS player. nice to meet you all!
I will be here posting in about 4/5 hours from now
Spoiler : Current Posts About Robinson's plan :
Compilation of My Current Plan
If anyone can point out a flaw large enough in this plan,for this to not win town the game in almost all if not all scenarios ,given all that I have stated please say so.
Otherwise I believe we should follow it.
I request that everyone express their willingness or unwillingness to follow it.
As well as the reason why especially if you are unwilling.
If you are unwilling and cannot show how this does not guarantee or almost not guarantee townt he game, I see no reason to read you as anything other than scum who's trying to obstruct a guaranteed win from town.
I'm going to be off for a few hours hence why I am already making a compilation.
Hello ol' chap. Nice to have you on this fine site playing with us! We could sure use your own experience to see things from a different angle. I am not as experienced with MS play, and I believe we have a few here. Always interesting to see other styles of play.
I just have a few questions for you when you get back:
What do you think of Mr Robinson plan? (of course assuming you gave the setup a good glance0
How do you feel about the players currently? (Ethan, me, and Robinson are the ones most fairly active)
If you were scum and going to pray tonight, which prayer would you think is most beneficial to your win condition?
I reckon that most would be willing to go forward with this plan, but this only concerns the night sequence of the game currently. We should still be scumhunting beyond just planning for nights. Unless you believe this should be a no lynch day. I reiterate that we should get a wagon going on Mary or some player to help us get out of RVS, and beyond just theory spec.
Sad that the game isn't more active, perhaps bad start time with it being a friday and all. Might as well log the vote count.
VC 1-0
M-FM Mary Hughes (1): M-FM Bertha Anderson
M-FM Gertrude Banks (1): M-FM Ethel McAllister
M-FM Joseph Johnson (1): M-FM Fred Robinson
M-FM Bertha Anderson (1): M-FM Gertrude Banks
Let Me Say a Few Things.
First- This guy is saying we shouldn't help God decide which prayers are bad. We have no knowledge of how good nor bad of a player god is. It is a role, not a real god and we're not rping it as such.
Second-For someone to need to pray forgiveness they must have sinned; following my plan only if a person was rbed or is scum or potentially when one was controlled by Antichrist would they have sinned.
Third-Do you not understand how Process of Elimination works?
God gets a list of all players and their prayers.
By default this list is just numbers with no names.
By telling people to pray different prayers each night, we can determine who is or is not praying and/or praying wrongly.
For example I'm going to do a simple 6 person one as an example and excluding God in the list as a matter of making things easy. Also if scum did decide to pray everything right; they would forsake a night action every time and they NEED at those night actions to win against the other and town and if we lynched the non-prayer-capable scum before than can kill a single towny or jsut a few, they will also most likely lose.
Spoiler : example :
Spoiler : further explanation :
And Yes I do expect Town to Read through my compilation since it should be a guaranteed win or near-guaranteed win for town to follow that strategy.
Pray to Him: At night, instead of performing an action you may pray for any of the following things, unless you are "sinful"
Forgiveness: You are no longer marked as "sinful" (the only prayer a sinful can pray for)
Willpower: Replenish 1 charge of an action you have
Protection: You can not die the following night
Found it. Sorry I'm just tired today. Hey it gave you some clarifying points to write about! I'll be testing this later on to see it happen or not with more people. Not today though.
I haven't read the plan nor do I intend to. I'm sure if there's a flaw with it, someone will find it, if not lets do it.
Let's get this party started shall we?
-vote M-FM William Reed
For COM soft claiming already
And when I say I don't intend to read the plan; tell me what I pray for and its done my boy
Ello ol chaps I must say that Robinson's plan is quite rocker if I must say so me-self and I can't be seein any flaws in it so I say we all go alongin with it.
On a differin note i must say that this is my first M-FM and me-self is still gettin the used to this longer setup analysing and wot not.
Any case chaps ima be makin me-self a cuppa and leavin my vote on-vote M-FM Florence Palmercause I don't like the randomin OMGUS vote as soon as the gal entered the room chaps.
As your God,
I will not discuss sins, prayers, my son Jesus, or any strategies relating to my role. I will read all strategies you may suggest and take it to considerations, but I will act everything out of my own will.
I will smite all who oppose me and my people! By the end of this M-FM, we shall emerge victorious! This is my promise to my people!
No ol gal I am not counterclaiminh you however I thought you was not being serious about your claimin so I will-unvote
I hope there is good reason for that claim that I didn't noticed last time I skimmed setup becuase I am sure I saw that there was a very fast scum win situation which needed only you and Jesus kill. and Jesus is an IC , so wtf was your reason to claim such a thing ?
COM stands 4 Council of Mages, olde term from when the game was back on WC3 I believe. It basically means y'r on site profile. If yeh were flumoxed on y we use these alternate accounts its 4 the purpose of avoiding using meta to read players. If a players identity is known players r more likely to use that to read em. Of course everyone tries to decipher players COMs anyroad.
reading the setup again oh well I will post whatever question I have about it. I just want to have a good grasp at all of the aspects of the setup , I'm not soft claiming anything.
1 - god receives the entire player list without their names. the order of this list stay static or changes each night?
2 - so we won't have any god anymore if there is no not sinful Christian ?
3 - both roleblock attempt and the roleblocked person will be sinful ?
4 - Sinners can pray (maybe for forgiveness only)? nothing is specified in their role pms. if yes , and if god answers that prayer what will happen?
6 - not sinful people can pray for forgiveness? what will happen if god answers that prayer?
7 - Glutton can take half of the god prayer answer charges as well?
ok now the plan seems ridiculously stupid. scum has 3 roles that can mess with the god without killing him ... (Glutton , Politician , Bum)
8 - if a god dies , the new god will receive the last night prayer feedback and sin numbers?
9 - god knows which number is him ? what about jesus?
10 - if an Antichrist die but his wincon (both god and jesus being dead) fulfills , game ends ?
in the sample massage of prayer result sinful people are like this :
Pray-o-meter:
1. Strength
2. Sinful
3. Forgivness
4. Strength
5. Willpower
6. Sinful
7. Protection
8. Protection
9. Sinful
10.
11. <--- You
12.
13.
14.
15. Sinful
16. Sinful
17. Name: Noctiz Role: Escort
18.
19. Blessing
20.
it confused me as hell. how someone prayed for forgiveness. god can see the sinful people in his lists? if someone is sinful and praying for forgiveness god can recognise it?
i feel that on the off chance the ol gal is the lord then votin her mightn be a mistake ol chap and i be seein that it if the ol gal is tryin to be usin the wifom to deter people would be en stupid idea as the lord above can not be grounded by the evil ones old chap so i just contradicted me-self so i see where your gettin at from that unneeded bold post,ol chap
-vote Florence Palmer
things I learnt from reading setup :
1 - claiming to be god is absurd and stupid. there are so many negative things about that without no gain.
maybe that god claim which recently happened was a try to get a CC on god to corner that role for the rest of the game?
FOS on Florence
2 - we need to get rid of Antichrist as soon as possible. the fact that there is a cult out there as well is horribly terrifying. the only hope for town is to use all the power they have not waste praying.
3 - god needs to save his answer shots. there is a role which can psyphon gods shots. god needs to make sure there is at least one unsinful town out there to carry his role after his death. that must be gods first proiority
4 - mass claiming in this setup is just means the end of the town. scum has too many varied ways to fuck that and control the town based on that.
5 - I can't see the point of choosing the pool and forcing people to pray. some town power roles can't stop their actual job and waste their powers to just pray.
if god receives the list in a random order each night that whole theory is completly pointless...
Many of these ol chaps have played together tho, and many people have played with each other. I would like to point out to the gentlemen who pointed out your post that would normally be considered COM hunting. Slightly against the rules.
Though it begs the question of why we can COM claim but players can't COM hunt. Weird tidbit there.
Thanks love for the contributions so far. I got a good feeling that you are town in this game so far. With Robinson that makes two strong town. Doing better with town hunting at the moment then scumhunting, guessing scum don't have the nerve to come in here and post. Limey bastards.
Vote Count 1-1
M-FM Mary Hughes (1): M-FM Bertha Anderson
M-FM Gertrude Banks (1): M-FM Ethel McAllister
M-FM Joseph Johnson (1): M-FM Fred Robinson
M-FM Bertha Anderson (2): M-FM Gertrude Banks, M-FM Florence Palmer
M-FM William Reed (1): M-FM Edward O'Connor
At work dearie. Haven't the time to post something in depth. I like the proposed plan on the assumption that Gods list isn't randomized each time.
I haven't seen that question be asked so here it iS
is gods list randomized each time he receives it?
For hosts:
I had a spot of trouble posting the other night. Site told me I didn't have the necessary permissions to be posting.
I'm off mate, Toddle-bye
Sinners can pray (maybe for forgiveness only)? nothing is specified in their role pms. if yes , and if god answers that prayer what will happen?
not sinful people can pray for forgiveness? what will happen if god answers that prayer?
if a god dies , the new god will receive the last night prayer feedback and sin numbers?
if an Antichrist die but his wincon (both god and jesus being dead) fulfills , game ends ?
I think those questions still worth answering as well
Shit
-vote M-FM Florence Palmer
I am checking in.