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  1. ISO #51

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Bertha Anderson View Post
    I would still like to know, just because the action is anti town, doesn't mean god won't answer those prayers.
    To God if you do this.

    If we agree to follow the plan and you answer strength blessing or willpower.
    You are pro-scum.

    More information about mechanics the better regardless though.

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  4. ISO #54

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Bertha Anderson View Post
    Fancy that, want to add anything to the current discussion of the setup we have been analyzing recently? How about answering this question: If you were scum what prayer would you find most useful?
    I have no idea and don't really care to be honest. Is there a point to this question?

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  6. ISO #56

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Spoiler : Current Posts About Robinson's plan :

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    If so, God needs to be very wary of answering forgiveness prayers, but at the same time this would allow us to potentially narrow down scum easier.

    For example if we named certain people were supposed to pray forgiveness and no one else, this could potentially be used to force a no-kill or scum reveal on the prime sinner's kill ability if tested for multiple nights in a row. However in such a case, god should not answer these prayers. This combined with the numbers of other prayers that should be prayed can be used to artificially root out scum who made a night action or the Atheists and Antichrist factions that Cannot pray if used over multiple nights.

    Perhaps it would be best to follow this strategy over the first few days.
    If we change out who prays what each day then we could certainly artificially determine a list of scummy people if god makes a sheet keeping track of each number to their prayers since I am currently unsure if god should should reveal each day to update this information.

    Thank you Mr.Anderson for reminding me that there are charges of god's answer ability. I originally thought he had much more than 30.

    Could someone clarify how god's disguise mechanic works?
    Does that mean if he is shot, the player shot would flip as the disguiser players role, and god gets login info of the disguised players account and begins using that?
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Although even if a nonsinful person cannot, this provides us with other benefits such as people lieing about performing sinful actions and merely making it slightly more difficult although just as accurate to artifically determine the scum who have a record of not praying even if it's a single time and if they do pray that forces them to do no night action including the factional kill i'm assuming.

    Either way it appears to be a win-win.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    However, this is also at the cost of town choosing not to perform their night actions if they have them and praying(aka cooperation from most if not all town members if we want guaranteed scum lynches going off past a certain day) I also haven't ran the odds to determine the minimal and maximum day where this strategy can give us a guaranteed scum lynch, but I believe we could probably start lynching on high probability by at least d4.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Of course the obvious problem is determining who would determine which players pray what.

    I see five main methods.
    Spoiler : _ :

    1: We vote for a player to choose this using a different color tag and name for easy searching such as
    -D1Leader name here
    -D2Leader name here
    etc.


    2: We get someone to record a video of themself using a rng generator and it choosing a number. I believe that this is within rules since videos are allowed and it wouldn't be linking to any outside websites.

    3:We do the above with a rng generator for each persons prayer; although I do not think this is really pratical given the video size neeeded.

    4.We each do our own rng generator and/or (just) say what we will pray during the day.

    5.We find an algorithm/equation that we all agree to abide by that would automatically determine each persons prayer for each night that has a fair degree of *randomtivity* to it for our purposes*
    For example on d1 we each use our number.
    Then d2 we all use our number +50
    D3=number+100

    Then we plug those numbers into the algorithm.
    We could even select a player say out this list near day end or start and then another to validate that what they said was correct. Each player would also have the ability to check for themselves using a simple online calculator.


    I personally like number 5 best since it should have the least amount of player manipulation involved.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Ahh. I believe given that town starts with 13 players.
    2 of which are the equivalent of unkillable.
    God would already know Jesus and could easily determine his number by the second day of prayers.
    God wouldn't have a number since he doesn't pray to himself.

    Out of unknowns
    we would have 11town prayers mixed in with 4sinners(who can pray) and 3 players who cannot ever pray(atheist, antichrist, and apostate of satan).

    It's even possible that we could determine all 3 non-prayer capable roles at the beginning of d2 if we are extremely lucky.

    I believe if we can get all town to go along with this. We are pratically guaranteed a win since the scum would be unable to do anything or if they did they would be outed as scum within 2 days.

    @Bertha Anderson
    I know that roleblocking is something they creates problems. However even with that there will either be a common theme of a player being roleblocked and another player not praying(creating a dichotomy either by mechanics or by 2 players claiming different positions). I also do not believe that roleblocking unless it is in masse and manages to hit 3or more town could cause a big enough change in the praying routines to cause this strategy to end up causing town to no longer having the ,probably ,guaranteed win by following it.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    If anyone can point out a flaw large enough in this plan,for this to not win town the game in almost all if not all scenarios ,given all that I have stated please say so.

    Otherwise I believe we should follow it.

    I request that everyone express their willingness or unwillingness to follow it.
    As well as the reason why especially if you are unwilling.

    If you are unwilling and cannot show how this does not guarantee or almost not guarantee townt he game, I see no reason to read you as anything other than scum who's trying to obstruct a guaranteed win from town.


    @Ethel, to pray means you also forsake your night action which also includes factional kill I'm assuming.

    Also where are you seeing that the busdriver is always sinful?
    There is no yellow(sinful) text in his role. And I fail to see how when him praying and visiting himself causing problems.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    After re-reading all the roles.

    The only evil roles that I can see which do not directly change faction-allignment and will cause a player to be sinful who's not scum.

    Is the prostitute's roleblock ability.
    And potentially the antichrist can cause a player to not pray or pray improperly for 1night.
    However even with both of these in mind. It shouldn't be enough especially when considered that the prostitute cannot roleblock and pray, and then must also pray forgiveness before praying any other prayer she is assigned(this should out her very quickly if she didn't claim; and if she did claim escort we could lynch her for not following the plan and therefore being pro-scum; if she claimed roleblocked and prayed we also can determine whether she is or not based on the amount of people who prayed and whether there was a kill or ).

    And I fail to see how the antichrist can make us do more than 1 mislynch by using his ability repeatedly.



    Does this statement mean that lynches are not forced?
    If lynches are not forced we can merely let this plan play out till we have enough info to get guaranteed to high-probability lynches off on the scum.
    I suspect we can probably either be getting high-probability if not guaranteed off by the beginning of d4 or earlier if the prime sinner decided to risk killing each night or something like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    You're assuming god would answer the prayer.
    God just cannot answer it and therefore the player wouldn't gain the ability to perform it. I fail to see a reason for god to answer this if performing this strategy aswell.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Following this plan, God should only ever answer the following prayers:

    Forgiveness
    Protection

    All other prayers are detrimental to the plan. Perhaps god should also never answer forgiveness unless we figure out there's a prostitute lurking among us.
    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Later On I will compile all my posts relating to this plan into one larger post for ease of access. However I would like to flesh it out more and cover more points that player's address before I do so. I will also post this in my lw.

    Compilation of My Current Plan
    If anyone can point out a flaw large enough in this plan,for this to not win town the game in almost all if not all scenarios ,given all that I have stated please say so.
    Otherwise I believe we should follow it.

    I request that everyone express their willingness or unwillingness to follow it.
    As well as the reason why especially if you are unwilling.


    If you are unwilling and cannot show how this does not guarantee or almost not guarantee townt he game, I see no reason to read you as anything other than scum who's trying to obstruct a guaranteed win from town.


    I'm going to be off for a few hours hence why I am already making a compilation.

  7. ISO #57

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Gertrude Banks View Post
    I have no idea and don't really care to be honest. Is there a point to this question?
    Actually there is, because it provides insight into your thinking pattern. You not answering it is interesting. Not quite so sure if scummy to be frank or just lazy townish behavior.

  8. ISO #58

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM William Reed View Post
    ok sorry

    this setup is incredibly complicated as I can see it. well I didn't completly analysed the setup yet.

    I'm a new player in SC2 , I am a MS player. nice to meet you all!

    I will be here posting in about 4/5 hours from now
    Hello ol' chap. Nice to have you on this fine site playing with us! We could sure use your own experience to see things from a different angle. I am not as experienced with MS play, and I believe we have a few here. Always interesting to see other styles of play.

    I just have a few questions for you when you get back:
    What do you think of Mr Robinson plan? (of course assuming you gave the setup a good glance0
    How do you feel about the players currently? (Ethan, me, and Robinson are the ones most fairly active)
    If you were scum and going to pray tonight, which prayer would you think is most beneficial to your win condition?

  9. ISO #59

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Spoiler : Current Posts About Robinson's plan :





















    Compilation of My Current Plan
    If anyone can point out a flaw large enough in this plan,for this to not win town the game in almost all if not all scenarios ,given all that I have stated please say so.
    Otherwise I believe we should follow it.

    I request that everyone express their willingness or unwillingness to follow it.
    As well as the reason why especially if you are unwilling.


    If you are unwilling and cannot show how this does not guarantee or almost not guarantee townt he game, I see no reason to read you as anything other than scum who's trying to obstruct a guaranteed win from town.


    I'm going to be off for a few hours hence why I am already making a compilation.
    I reckon that most would be willing to go forward with this plan, but this only concerns the night sequence of the game currently. We should still be scumhunting beyond just planning for nights. Unless you believe this should be a no lynch day. I reiterate that we should get a wagon going on Mary or some player to help us get out of RVS, and beyond just theory spec.

  10. ISO #60

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Sad that the game isn't more active, perhaps bad start time with it being a friday and all. Might as well log the vote count.

    VC 1-0
    M-FM Mary Hughes (1): M-FM Bertha Anderson
    M-FM Gertrude Banks (1): M-FM Ethel McAllister
    M-FM Joseph Johnson (1): M-FM Fred Robinson
    M-FM Bertha Anderson (1): M-FM Gertrude Banks


  11. ISO #61

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Ethel McAllister View Post
    I believe we should not be talking about what prayers God will answer. Unless our God is not all known praise the Almighty bow down and respect him God. He should be able to figure out who is needing what sorts of blessings.

    I see nothing wrong with the forgiveness prayer. True, the protection prayer has it's uses but the forgiveness prayer is good too. Maybe I will pray for forgiveness of my sins. Aren't we all sinners in real life? But now my name is Ethel, a mostly pure woman.

    God will not be able to find evils with only prayers, thats absurd. I do encourage God to try- the Almighty knowing all seer of the future to win us this game.
    There are many players, and many prayers. I doubt in the ability to count. True, yes?
    Let Me Say a Few Things.

    First- This guy is saying we shouldn't help God decide which prayers are bad. We have no knowledge of how good nor bad of a player god is. It is a role, not a real god and we're not rping it as such.

    Second-For someone to need to pray forgiveness they must have sinned; following my plan only if a person was rbed or is scum or potentially when one was controlled by Antichrist would they have sinned.

    Third-Do you not understand how Process of Elimination works?
    God gets a list of all players and their prayers.
    By default this list is just numbers with no names.
    By telling people to pray different prayers each night, we can determine who is or is not praying and/or praying wrongly.

    For example I'm going to do a simple 6 person one as an example and excluding God in the list as a matter of making things easy. Also if scum did decide to pray everything right; they would forsake a night action every time and they NEED at those night actions to win against the other and town and if we lynched the non-prayer-capable scum before than can kill a single towny or jsut a few, they will also most likely lose.

    Spoiler : example :

    There are players: A, B, C, D, E, F

    These are the orders given.
    A=forgive
    B=protect
    C=willpower
    forgive
    E=protect
    F=willpower

    D1 Prayers Recieved.
    1=forgive
    2=forgive
    3=None
    4=None
    5=Protection
    6=willpower

    Therefore. We can be fairly confident players A and D so far are following through. If another scum prayed their prayer for them so they could do a night action without suspicion we would know since they would not fulfill the prayer that they were supposed to.
    We know that either players C or F and players B or E failed to follow through and therefore are scum assuming that don't claim roleblock(I cover why roleblocking doesn't foil this plan earlier)
    Notice my choice of the words OR and AND carefully.


    D2orders
    A=protection
    B=Protection
    C=willpower
    forgive
    E=Forgive
    F=Forgive

    D2Prayers recieved
    1=Protection
    2=Willpower
    3=Forgive
    4=None
    5=Forgive
    6=Protection

    We know that A has fulfilled his prayer.
    We know that B fulfilled his prayer.
    We know that C has also fulfilled his prayer.
    We know that two out of D,E,and F satisfied their prayers but one did not.
    We know that there is a scum who either cannot or is choosing not to play(4)
    Earlier we noticed a dichotomy between c or f and then b or e.
    Therefore following the trichotomy and dichotomy we can determine that player F is scum who is either choosing not to or cannot pray.
    Unfortunately, We still cannot determine whether B or E is scum since they both prayed today.

    (God Reveals this information; he get's lynched d2|God can't die yet so it's fine and if scum uses faction kill that they hadn't been before the prime sinner becomes obvious in the prayer list very quickly especially after the second shot on god||alternatively god can wait till he knows enough scum that would auto-win town the game after he reveals.


    Spoiler : further explanation :

    Now before anyone says anything about this. I know its a small sample. I also didn't include all 5 prayers since i decreased the amount of people and the same logic applies the same and perhaps even better with more people because more ___-chotomies to cross-reference.

    I made have made a mistake on that sample since I didn't do this like a spreadsheet like I should with the actual game.
    This is a sample and it's hard to do this without a spreadsheet to cross-reference values between lists and such.
    Which I don't feel like posting into here.

    Basically it works this way.

    We find out that there is a pentachotomy where 3 prayed and 2 didn't. We don't know which names coorespond to nubmers yet.
    By countinuing this we find other overlaps of dichotomys, trichotomies,etc.
    Till we find one with either high-probability if we are rushing it or through guaranteed if we don't want any risks.
    The Atheists and Antichrist factions are basically guaranteed to get destroyed this way and if the sinners can't just pray forever since they HAVE to shoot God and Jesus multiple times since those 2 confirm each other and revive as well as part of the Sinners win condition beign sinful meaning at some point they have to not-pray.


    And Yes I do expect Town to Read through my compilation since it should be a guaranteed win or near-guaranteed win for town to follow that strategy.

  12. ISO #62

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    Let Me Say a Few Things.

    Second-For someone to need to pray forgiveness they must have sinned; following my plan only if a person was rbed or is scum or potentially when one was controlled by Antichrist would they have sinned.Clarification at this point when i use need I meant that is the only prayer that they can pray and they would have to pray it before any other prayer first.
    clarification

  13. ISO #63

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Fred Robinson View Post
    clarification

    Pray to Him
    : At night, instead of performing an action you may pray for any of the following things, unless you are "sinful"

    Forgiveness: You are no longer marked as "sinful" (the only prayer a sinful can pray for)

    Willpower: Replenish 1 charge of an action you have

    Protection: You can not die the following night

    Found it. Sorry I'm just tired today. Hey it gave you some clarifying points to write about! I'll be testing this later on to see it happen or not with more people. Not today though.

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  18. ISO #68

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Ello ol chaps I must say that Robinson's plan is quite rocker if I must say so me-self and I can't be seein any flaws in it so I say we all go alongin with it.

    On a differin note i must say that this is my first M-FM and me-self is still gettin the used to this longer setup analysing and wot not.
    Any case chaps ima be makin me-self a cuppa and leavin my vote on
    -vote M-FM Florence Palmer
    cause I don't like the randomin OMGUS vote as soon as the gal entered the room chaps.

  19. ISO #69

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Harry Smith View Post
    Ello ol chaps I must say that Robinson's plan is quite rocker if I must say so me-self and I can't be seein any flaws in it so I say we all go alongin with it.

    On a differin note i must say that this is my first M-FM and me-self is still gettin the used to this longer setup analysing and wot not.
    Any case chaps ima be makin me-self a cuppa and leavin my vote on
    -vote M-FM Florence Palmer
    cause I don't like the randomin OMGUS vote as soon as the gal entered the room chaps.
    Are you counterclaiming me?

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  22. ISO #72

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    As your God,

    I will not discuss sins, prayers, my son Jesus, or any strategies relating to my role. I will read all strategies you may suggest and take it to considerations, but I will act everything out of my own will.

    I will smite all who oppose me and my people! By the end of this M-FM, we shall emerge victorious! This is my promise to my people!

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  25. ISO #75

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Bertha Anderson View Post
    Hello ol' chap. Nice to have you on this fine site playing with us! We could sure use your own experience to see things from a different angle. I am not as experienced with MS play, and I believe we have a few here. Always interesting to see other styles of play.

    I just have a few questions for you when you get back:
    What do you think of Mr Robinson plan? (of course assuming you gave the setup a good glance0
    How do you feel about the players currently? (Ethan, me, and Robinson are the ones most fairly active)
    If you were scum and going to pray tonight, which prayer would you think is most beneficial to your win condition?
    sure I will answer all these questions in my next series of posts

  26. ISO #76

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Edward O'Connor View Post
    I haven't read the plan nor do I intend to. I'm sure if there's a flaw with it, someone will find it, if not lets do it.

    Let's get this party started shall we?

    -vote M-FM William Reed


    For COM soft claiming already
    oO

    ehem what?

    whats a COM softclaim ? and what the hell is that why is that vote worthy?

  27. ISO #77

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Florence Palmer View Post
    Fuck you. I hardclaim God.

    -vote M-FM Bertha Anderson
    I hope there is good reason for that claim that I didn't noticed last time I skimmed setup becuase I am sure I saw that there was a very fast scum win situation which needed only you and Jesus kill. and Jesus is an IC , so wtf was your reason to claim such a thing ?

  28. ISO #78

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM William Reed View Post
    oO

    ehem what?

    whats a COM softclaim ? and what the hell is that why is that vote worthy?
    COM stands 4 Council of Mages, olde term from when the game was back on WC3 I believe. It basically means y'r on site profile. If yeh were flumoxed on y we use these alternate accounts its 4 the purpose of avoiding using meta to read players. If a players identity is known players r more likely to use that to read em. Of course everyone tries to decipher players COMs anyroad.

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Florence Palmer View Post
    As your God,

    I will not discuss sins, prayers, my son Jesus, or any strategies relating to my role. I will read all strategies you may suggest and take it to considerations, but I will act everything out of my own will.

    I will smite all who oppose me and my people! By the end of this M-FM, we shall emerge victorious! This is my promise to my people!
    I sincerely hope you are not what you claim you are after this post. Not that I was happy with your original claim, but this annoys me. I am already not enjoying this game.

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    reading the setup again oh well I will post whatever question I have about it. I just want to have a good grasp at all of the aspects of the setup , I'm not soft claiming anything.

    1 - god receives the entire player list without their names. the order of this list stay static or changes each night?
    2 - so we won't have any god anymore if there is no not sinful Christian ?
    3 - both roleblock attempt and the roleblocked person will be sinful ?
    4 - Sinners can pray (maybe for forgiveness only)? nothing is specified in their role pms. if yes , and if god answers that prayer what will happen?
    6 - not sinful people can pray for forgiveness? what will happen if god answers that prayer?
    7 - Glutton can take half of the god prayer answer charges as well?

    ok now the plan seems ridiculously stupid. scum has 3 roles that can mess with the god without killing him ... (Glutton , Politician , Bum)

    8 - if a god dies , the new god will receive the last night prayer feedback and sin numbers?
    9 - god knows which number is him ? what about jesus?
    10 - if an Antichrist die but his wincon (both god and jesus being dead) fulfills , game ends ?

    in the sample massage of prayer result sinful people are like this :
    Pray-o-meter:
    1. Strength
    2. Sinful
    3. Forgivness
    4. Strength
    5. Willpower
    6. Sinful
    7. Protection
    8. Protection
    9. Sinful
    10.
    11. <--- You
    12.
    13.
    14.
    15. Sinful
    16. Sinful
    17. Name: Noctiz Role: Escort
    18.
    19. Blessing
    20.

    it confused me as hell. how someone prayed for forgiveness. god can see the sinful people in his lists? if someone is sinful and praying for forgiveness god can recognise it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Bertha Anderson View Post
    COM stands 4 Council of Mages, olde term from when the game was back on WC3 I believe. It basically means y'r on site profile. If yeh were flumoxed on y we use these alternate accounts its 4 the purpose of avoiding using meta to read players. If a players identity is known players r more likely to use that to read em. Of course everyone tries to decipher players COMs anyroad.
    what meta!? 90% of these player lists never saw me before.

    and I had no idea about that ... just was trying to greet

  34. ISO #84

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Bertha Anderson View Post
    You seriously consider this person being serious still? Just after doing it in big letters?
    This is ridiculous.
    i feel that on the off chance the ol gal is the lord then votin her mightn be a mistake ol chap and i be seein that it if the ol gal is tryin to be usin the wifom to deter people would be en stupid idea as the lord above can not be grounded by the evil ones old chap so i just contradicted me-self so i see where your gettin at from that unneeded bold post,ol chap
    -vote Florence Palmer

  35. ISO #85

    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    things I learnt from reading setup :

    1 - claiming to be god is absurd and stupid. there are so many negative things about that without no gain.
    maybe that god claim which recently happened was a try to get a CC on god to corner that role for the rest of the game?

    FOS on Florence

    2 - we need to get rid of Antichrist as soon as possible. the fact that there is a cult out there as well is horribly terrifying. the only hope for town is to use all the power they have not waste praying.

    3 - god needs to save his answer shots. there is a role which can psyphon gods shots. god needs to make sure there is at least one unsinful town out there to carry his role after his death. that must be gods first proiority

    4 - mass claiming in this setup is just means the end of the town. scum has too many varied ways to fuck that and control the town based on that.

    5 - I can't see the point of choosing the pool and forcing people to pray. some town power roles can't stop their actual job and waste their powers to just pray.

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM William Reed View Post
    what meta!? 90% of these player lists never saw me before.

    and I had no idea about that ... just was trying to greet
    Many of these ol chaps have played together tho, and many people have played with each other. I would like to point out to the gentlemen who pointed out your post that would normally be considered COM hunting. Slightly against the rules.

    Though it begs the question of why we can COM claim but players can't COM hunt. Weird tidbit there.

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM William Reed View Post
    things I learnt from reading setup :

    1 - claiming to be god is absurd and stupid. there are so many negative things about that without no gain.
    maybe that god claim which recently happened was a try to get a CC on god to corner that role for the rest of the game?

    FOS on Florence
    Claiming god is extremely anti town, and highly unlikely be he the real god. If he is god, you can consider this game already lost. In which case we can pack our bags and head of to the ol' tavern for a pint.

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Mary Hughes View Post
    At work dearie. Haven't the time to post something in depth. I like the proposed plan on the assumption that Gods list isn't randomized each time.
    I haven't seen that question be asked so here it iS
    is gods list randomized each time he receives it?
    No questions have been answered so far and I have seen the hosts on, also I already asked this question a few posts ago, but you put it more bluntly than I did.

    What are your thoughts on the players so far?

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Mary Hughes View Post
    For hosts:
    I had a spot of trouble posting the other night. Site told me I didn't have the necessary permissions to be posting.
    I thought there might be a problem. Do we need to put a hold on the game? You are not the first to relay problems with accessing account....not to mention I have seen about 2-3 other players who signed on looked at thread and didn't post.

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Sinners can pray (maybe for forgiveness only)? nothing is specified in their role pms. if yes , and if god answers that prayer what will happen?

    not sinful people can pray for forgiveness? what will happen if god answers that prayer?

    if a god dies , the new god will receive the last night prayer feedback and sin numbers?

    if an Antichrist die but his wincon (both god and jesus being dead) fulfills , game ends ?


    I think those questions still worth answering as well

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    Re: MFM XXVI Heaven Descends Upon Thee

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM William Reed View Post
    oO

    ehem what?

    whats a COM softclaim ? and what the hell is that why is that vote worthy?
    U mad u have a vote or w0t

    Quote Originally Posted by M-FM Bertha Anderson View Post
    I sincerely hope you are not what you claim you are after this post. Not that I was happy with your original claim, but this annoys me. I am already not enjoying this game.
    Why are you raging so hard for something so simple? Overreaction much? That's a lot of righteous indignation there.

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