North Korea to nuke America

[marinebase7]

Apparently North Korea claims that it can nuke America as early as Monday March 11th... now that will make alot of people's very unhappy if they do actually go full 150% psycho and press that button but the real question remains... what the fuck will happen to the HoTS launch if we do get nuked? There better not be any delays on the launch date or I'm personally gonna punch every North Korea that ever existed.

P.S. if America does retaliate and nuke North Korea back, South Korea will just die from splash damage gg friendlyfire op riot pls nerf.

[creedkingsx]

tl;dr We've been making nukes for 70 years, they've been making them for like 10 days (exaggerated sarcasm). I am pretty sure we can win. South Korea owes us, plenty. They can take a hit of splash damage. All they've given us is Gangnam style, anyway.

[Cryptonic]

NK can only Nuke America if they bring a bomb over and set it off. They haven't made them small enough to fit on a missile small enough to reach America.

If anything, they'll hit Seoul

[creedkingsx]

They did a satellite range test or some shit like that, they can technically hit anywhere from mid to west USA, but with little accuracy. The notion that they will burn Washington DC is ludicrous, currently for reasons I just mentioned plus what Crypt just stated.

[Lazers]

NK can only Nuke America if they bring a bomb over and set it off. They haven't made them small enough to fit on a missile small enough to reach America.

If anything, they'll hit Seoul

Nah, North Korea believes South Korea to be occupied North Korean land. They wouldn't nuke it.

They're talking out their ass.

[marinebase7]

tl;dr We've been making nukes for 70 years, they've been making them for like 10 days (exaggerated sarcasm). I am pretty sure we can win. South Korea owes us, plenty. They can take a hit of splash damage. All they've given us is Gangnam style, anyway.

That's so cruel man with South Korea gone esports will go bankrupt and blizzard won't be able to fund anymore stracraft games.

[marinebase7]

NK can only Nuke America if they bring a bomb over and set it off. They haven't made them small enough to fit on a missile small enough to reach America.

If anything, they'll hit Seoul

What they will do is put their nuclear warhead into some sort of bomb and get 5000 famished North Koreans to throw it as us. As a physicist I can confirm that that is theoretically and realistically probable.

[Slaol]

I assume they will be nuking the west coast if anything (lol North Korea), good thing I am going to Oakland on Sunday!

[Cryptonic]

Everyone should be scared. North Korea managed to get a satelittle in orbit in 2012. That's crazy technology right there. It's a good thing this one didn't explode in the air and fall and kill North Koreans like last time.

There is honestly nothing to be afraid it. NK can obviously make a powerful bomb, and they now have the technology to make a missle reach NA. However, the accuracy of their rocket is extremely questionable, and the nuclear devices they use are too large to be used as a war head. With the extra sanctions slapped on them, it will be that much harder for them to create a device small enough to be attached to a missile.


ARE YOU GUYS PREPARED FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD COUNTERMEASURES? Lazers is right, they're just talking out of their asses. I'm pretty sure the USA has developed a way to take down long range missiles anyways; just why would they tell anybody about this? If others knew, they'd try to work around.
Plus, would NK risk losing it's entire country to hit USA with one nuke? prolly not..

[Lazers]

I'm pretty sure the USA has developed a way to take down long range missiles anyways

They have, although I don't remember the name of it at the moment

[creedkingsx]

Have to remember, a child runs the country now.

[Cryptonic]

Have to remember, a child runs the country now.

lol nah, he's just a puppet used to control the people, since they all think the family is gods. All the Generals are the fuckwads.

Let's all write China and Russia letters, asking them to invade NK. lol

[marinebase7]

"Satellite lasers from space." -Reagan.

You guys are taking too much for granted. Prepare your underground bunkers.

[FM Ferengi]

Warning. Nuclear launch detected.

[Ash]

I'm pretty sure the USA has developed a way to take down long range missiles anyways; just why would they tell anybody about this? If others knew, they'd try to work around.
Plus, would NK risk losing it's entire country to hit USA with one nuke? prolly not..

This. Just this.
/thread

also imo i think koreans love starcraft 2 right?? USA should just utilize blizzard to threaten north koraen. they should retaliate the koraens by saying "omfg u nuke us and nerdcraft 2 goes to hell biatch"

[Lazers]

Warning. Nuclear launch detected.

Why can't we have hueg avatars like that

cmon

[Lazers]

"Satellite lasers from space." -Reagan.

You guys are taking too much for granted. Prepare your underground bunkers.

A lot has happened since Reagan, you know

[Cryptonic]

This. Just this.
/thread

also imo i think koreans love starcraft 2 right?? USA should just utilize blizzard to threaten north koraen. they should retaliate the koraens by saying "omfg u nuke us and nerdcraft 2 goes to hell biatch"

Obama: We have tried everything. Diplomatic sactions, economical sanctions.. nothing seems to work. We have to do something more extreme, yes, more extreme: We are putting sanctions on North Korean Starcraft players.

[Ash]

now that will make of people's very unhappy if they do actually go full 150% psycho and press that button but the real question remains...

i fixed

[marinebase7]

A lot has happened since Reagan, you know

So we do have lazer satellites from space now?

i fixed

Oh ty your input so helpful.

[Ash]

So we do have lazer satellites from space now?

Oh ty your input so helpful.

laser*
if you ever see a laser shooting from the sky, just carry a mirror above your head. who knows, it might just protect you. or you can use it to your advantage

[marinebase7]

laser*
if you ever see a laser shooting from the sky, just carry a mirror above your head. who knows, it might just protect you. or you can use it to your advantage

Omg gg North Korea is going to cloak their missiles with mirrors now. Good job letting out the secret.

[kyle1234513]

https://imgur.com/gallery/x6BYmmM

https://imgur.com/gallery/iY0Svv2

imo that pretty much sums it up.

[Doctective]

It's okay, we have AEGIS. It'll be blown up long before it gets to our coast.

[Lazers]

So we do have lazer satellites from space now?

No, but we do have lasers

[Raptorblaze]

gonna be a very short war.

[Ash]

gonna be a very short war.

haha world war 3 is gonna be 5 seconds long.

[marinebase7]

haha world war 3 is gonna be 5 seconds long.

Fallout world incoming. America needs to start making vaults.

[Elixir]

[Lazers]

[Gzz]

If all goes like their plans, then NK is going to pass the hell....

[Fallacy]

The Attack and Response:

If NK launches a nuclear weapon, what follows will depend to some extent on who and what they launched it at. It is not believed that NK has the ability to launch a mid-long range nuclear attack. In other words, they can’t hit the US from Asia. Their only viable/realistic target option for a nuclear strike is South Korea.

A nuclear response depends on a state’s second strike capability – their ability to continue a nuclear war after the first salvo. If NK launches a nuke, the probability that their missile facilities will survive long enough to ever launch another one is extremely low. NK knows this, which means two things:

They know they’ll only get one shot. If they are dead set on causing an international nuclear incident, they’ll launch it at Seoul and kill 13 million people off the bat.

They know that a retaliatory nuclear response directed at them is unlikely.

Honestly, it doesn’t make a lot of sense from a strategic standpoint to nuke NK into nothingness, and China / Japan will never stand by and let that happen, to say nothing of South Korea. The ecological consequences make this too costly.

In the event that a US & SK –led coalition take military action in NK, China is going to get extremely antsy. It would require a nuclear attack, or something not far short of one, to get China to begrudgingly allow US military action there. The politics of the situation there will “ensure” a “short” war.

In other words, the campaign will end with the essential destruction of NK and the unconditional surrender of their government. An attempt by the US to occupy NK would be disastrous, but most likely it would be politically unnecessary. In this instance, the US is fighting a defensive war against a lunatic nuclear antagonist. The West will have a grace period of letting the military go in and kill like they’re supposed to before people get upset that we aren’t fixing our enemies houses and schools up nicely after we reduce them to craters. Besides, NK could use the renovations.

South Korea is Screwed:

Regardless of whether or not NK led off with or ever commits a nuclear strike, the war will transition from that point to a conventional war. Assuming Seoul is spared a nuclear holocaust, North Korea has 50 years’ worth of artillery aimed at Seoul and SK targets. It doesn’t really matter that they’re cold war technology; they’ll kill a lot of people.

NK stands little to no chance of resisting the US military; we’ll dominate. Whether or not we can dominate without them managing to encroach into South Korea and making the border areas a terrible place to live is another question. Probably not.

North Korea has been insane about its borders, because nobody wants to live in North Korea. This means that they’ve left themselves few corridors in which to advance South, one of which is a major highway. All of these have been fortified and mined, and any bridges/overpasses are rigged to blow in the event NK tanks come rolling toward them. My guess is that NK would likely have to burrow their infantry in with tunnels under the DMZ. Either way, most of the costs vis-à-vis destroyed infrastructure (especially modern infrastructure) will be incurred by SK.

Pyongyang is a fortress city and is nigh-invulnerable to drone and air strikes, but the rest of NK is not and we can burn them out from as far away as Guam (but more likely from a fleet of submarines all around the Korean peninsula.)

SK will be burdened with most of the post-war costs.

Conventional War:

It’s worth mentioning that NK has a standing army of 1,000,000 people. This seems like an intimidating number, and it should be. However, it’s worth mentioning a couple things:

NK is a shitshow that can barely keep the lights on. Clothing a million man army with sweatshop/slave labor and substandard materials is enough of a challenge to NK that they can barely feed anyone. Once a war starts, and they start losing supplies, food, equipment, and personnel – that’s it. They aren’t getting anymore, and they don’t have the infrastructure to produce it, especially not during wartime.

NK has to buy it’s Cold-war equipment from others. They aren’t going to be able to afford that once the war starts, and they aren’t going to be able to shift that production capability into their concentration camps.

Ideology:

This isn’t from experience, but from what I’m told about North Korea: North Koreans either realize what a pathetically outrageous excuse for a government they have, and wisely keep their damn mouths shut about it, or they don’t realize anything about anything because they’ve never seen or heard of anything except the nonsense that NK spews 24/7. The folks who believe NK discovered a unicorn, but who have never heard of television.

It would definitely be foolish to underestimate ones’ enemies, but it’s never foolish to try an understand their motivations. Compare NK to Al Qaeda; AQ will “never” be defeated because they will always resist the West ideologically, no matter how many of their leaders we kill, and in fact more so because of how many of their leaders we kill. NK, on the other hand: I just don’t see these people fighting an incredibly drawn-out and sustained conflict. Like that pudgy fuck Kim Jong Un is going to rally anyone? Liberate two death camps and we’ll see how long that lasts.

The Goal:

NK has no realistic expectation that they will be able to win a nuclear, or sustained conventional war. Thus, their tactic is likely to make any victory over NK a pyrrhic one, where it is so costly to the US and SK that we are unwilling to see it through to the end.

This points to a likelihood of conventional warfare tactics, relying on artillery and fortified gun and AA emplacements hidden in a country that’s all mountain and forest to drain US/SK resources and raise casualties.

NK don’t have to beat us, they just have to not let us completely destroy them before Big Brother China steps in and wants us to stop. China will have no patience for a decade of sustained conflict on its’ border involving anyone, let alone its’ rival superpower.

China kind of is (was) North Korea's big brother, ultimately keeping it in check and protecting it when Kim Jong Il was in charge. Of course Kim Jong Un is a whole 'nother story.

China has also recently released statements essentially saying that North Korea needs to pipe the fuck down and it seems like they want to temper them

HOWEVER

If the U.S. is going to nuke NK, China is really fucking close and I can't imagine you'd be too happy about someone taking a radioactive shit a few inches away from you either

NK has also shut out ALL outside negotiations, including China as I understand it

My question is what the U.S. will do if China tries to step in as a mediator if NK does nuke Seoul. It's nice to say we would cut all ties with them but we are pretty dependent on their exports as of now.

And what the fuck does Russia have to say about all of this? Russia and China are the ones with nuclear missiles pointed at the U.S.

[marinebase7]

@fallacy wow for taking this thread seriously and I'll return you the grace. What most of you say is true. North Korea actually has built a massive array of missiles and bombs over the years and can easily carpet bomb the shit out of South Korea (which isn't hard considering SK has surface area 1/4 the size of California). This isn't to say South Korea doesn't have the same ability, however.
If a Korean War 2 were to happen it would most likely go down (I doubt it would be a conventional, old fashion war with military sending units across enemy lines and shit... not to mention the 38th parallel is littered with more mines and security greater than that between Pakistan and India) with both countries bombing the shit out of each other and the race of Koreans would probably become more endangered than fucking pandas. In essence, there will be no victor simply because everybody is fucking dead.
In regards to South Korea, they have become one of the most prosperous countries in the world and have a lot more as far as economical value goes while North Korea has basically Kim Jong Un's net worth to lose. This obviously puts South Koreans in a state of what I would call "being pussies" (can't blame them though imagine if Mexico had nuclear weapons and was crazy enough to threaten America with it) while an ordinary North Korean... well has basically no say whatsoever. Many South Koreans don't even want a reunified Korea (peacefully) because it would actually put the unified Korea several decades behind considering all the reconstruction that would need to be implemented on South Korea's part to North Korea. All in all it's a huge fucking mess over there and this would only concern the average American citizen (outside of the whole South Korea being a big part of the global economic power) should China actually step in should a war to actually break out.

To be honest I think China has become a little bit too "world dependent" (as much as the world is dependent to it) to actually start nuking America once a war does to start but there could be a series of unfortunate events that could trigger this reaction. I also don't think North Korea thinks they will win a war against South Korea (left independent or not). They're not that delusional (I don't think at least) to believe they won't actually go into basically a kamikaze war. They're just threatening (successfully for decades now actually as South Korea basically funded their nuclear program with the whole Sunshine policy of ex-prez Kim Dae Jung and his successor Roh Moo Hyun) in desperate attempt to get what they want but they might actually be crazy enough to make their threats a reality.

tl;dr truman should have nuked North Korea decades ago blame him.