Night 4

[FM Ferengi]

Night 4 has began, you can now begin your discussion. Looks like your team can make a comeback now.

On the other hand, I'm not planning to promote Enforcer to Commodore yet, because he is already performing a fitting role during the day chat. As long as you stay alive, you should be fine. Good luck!

[FM Smoker]

Even with the death of Big Mom, it is still benefital.

1. It confirms my CounterClaim.
2. I'm more trusted as a Marine.
3. I'm speaking for the Navy.



I'd like to know your clue of Fire Fist, if he's innocent or suspicious. Personally, I want you to check out Capone Bege.

As for the N4 Clue, if someone is Suspicious - may you please do a first post that has a fruit in it to give me the hint?

[FM Smoker]

"Navy Admiral - Can check target player's exact alignment. Also detects Neutral Killers. Marines, Town and Benigh Neutrals will show up as not suspicious."

I'd like to know all the alignments that you've received.

Am I allowed to copypaste from the night chat, as long I'm not [quote]ing something?

[FM Ferengi]

Am I allowed to copypaste from the night chat, as long I'm not quoting something?

You should not do that. You should talk with your own words, rather than quoting then from someone else.

[FM Kuzan]

well i think i made some sick winfom by voting against big mom and i think i'll be ok for now from sp9/pirates. btw it was ns sor about confusion i tried to clear it but with the big mom vote by saying the "town invested in me"

you will have to adress that to first mate due tot he fact that town and nutral bening show "Not suspicious"

do rebels show up as rebels?

i will follow what you said and

target Capone Bege

what i guess i can do is try to be more elaborate about it, ppl see me more as a troll right now so i might employ something new

i might try to mention a color of their alignment by refrencing food or just spam. if the fact that vantrill does exist and i get vitoed have me answer what the 30 ment. it was the konami code. but also ask to use my night writing style. if i dont answer correctly or i start off using night writing style then im probally vantrill.

what we need to do is find a way to get cp9 to know im navy and not target us. they do want you rbed so if you not rbed then we can use that to kinda point towards something.

going foward i will will probally lurk more or be more trolly and unporductive to make cp9 want to ignore me they will want to go after the active players. cp9 will soon want to take out the power roles and not the cits. so if they think im cit they will prob diregard me

[FM Smoker]

So, Ace is NS?

Don't forget, I will be speaking for you. If you have any words to publish, I'll do it for you.

[FM Kuzan]

um not really right now i dont have much to go on.

oh i do want to give my standpoint of where each side resides right now and where im standing. i would also like your imput on where you stand

we are at open ends right now with cp9/town so for us town is hesitant and will want cp9 dead. i think for now we can ignore the rebels faction and deal with them when the time comes. but i do want the pirates dead. if zoro is infact student he should act as the second journalist. but i do question how zoro pick jounalist out of all of the ppl.

(big wall of text incoming so give me a few mins

[FM Kuzan]

please note this is before the death of tonight

town has majority of voting power and town power roles.
cp9 assuming witch is existant has all night kills (except the probable floating arons?)
rebels SCREWED!
pirates 2 memebers
marines me and you
nutral: student claim by zoro, and some floating arson/other nutral right now

where everyone stands in sides
town pretty much has to be with marines due to rebels being dead
cp9 they can side with marine but due to witch i guess controlling first mate they have ppirate under their finger.
rebels SCREWED! can hope to win with town
pirates pretty much at mercy of cp9
marines we have open ends. (where i stand on siding is potentaly cp9 due to fact of them haveing the night kills*)
nutral: stutdent claim needs town so you have an extra vote in town slot, (imaiginary?) arson just want town dead

i dunno where you stand on the whole cp9 and town but we can be playing sides if i find cp9 we cant expose it to town. we can make a deal with cp9 saying that we secretly found one and that if they kill you we shall reveal it to kinda ensure. or fake say we know 2 cp9s or something

my role list of the hiddens, im not good with filling in names so...

Pirate Captain
Hidden Pirate first mate (dead)
Hidden Pirate framer (hanged)
Hidden Pirate consort

Infiltrator alive
Hidden CP9 witch
Hidden CP9 drug dealer
Hidden CP9 vantrillaquist

Navy Admiral me
Hidden Marine detective (dead)
Hidden Marine jailor (dead)
Hidden Marine enforcer (you)

Rebel Leader dead
Rebel Scout dead

Doctor set role
Hidden Town Power jounalist (confirmed)
Hidden Town Power bus driver
Hidden Town Power doc?
Hidden Town Power mayor

Citizen dead
Citizen dead
Citizen dead
Citizen dead

Citizen alive
Citizen alive
Citizen alive
Citizen alive
Citizen alvie
Citizen alive
Citizen alive
Citizen alive
Citizen alive
Citizen alive

Hidden Neutral student?
Hidden Neutral arson?

my thoughs behind consort and not escort, if we look at role list right now and say there are no repeats how i see it is that the rmaining role falls to these: Consort,Janitor,Blackmailer,Disguiser,Pirate

now why each is unporbalbe:
janitor: 5 cleanings, not one single clean yet
blackmailer: none have claimed blackmailed yet unless bm bming same target
disguiser: possibility but with codes floating around cant do jack
pirate: i dont think host would do that to pirates and have a lone masifo/pirate

black leg sanji is porbable consort trying to play off escort. i do see consort trying to find witch. but i noticed that WITCHING COMES BEFORE RBING

as us marines i would like to get rid of the consort to force more cp9 towards us and not allow them to have pirates still.

why 2 docs?
seems like it can create some wifom if both reveal but alos helps on dd case.

if you have an idea on where to put names go ahead but i would also like your imput as well on where you stand with things. seeing how things will go town will kinda rely on us for info and cp9 will prob want to use as to find their targets.

if i think of anything else ill say but thats the general outline of what i have going on right now

[FM Kuzan]

if in even either of us get vitoed lets have a secrtete code on here so that if one of us seems to be off.

mines is 30 live konami code. ill be more specific on a game about it. but i have a felling they wont taarget either of us due to the forcing of mysling one of us is worse off. i wont post it right away but if i randomly come out and say im caption. have me post the konami 30 lives code from here so confirm im not vitoed. but dont try to lynch me XD.

[FM Kuzan]

also bonnie needs to make a real role calim due tot he fact that zoro (the supposive student) is countering bonnie and protected the framer. i see bonnie as a pirate for trying to stop the framer lynch. first mate?

what we should do is leave pirate caption to self and hold off lynching untill we can ensure the safety of them. if we find consort we can focus on binne being potental final pirate. this will force cp9 to side with us and not kill us. essenaly allowing us both reveal safely and not be night killed.

also first mate when you see this (if you do)
am i allowed to say that fm hina jailed you?

that can be my confirmation aslo of proving being caption. you dont have to post in this thread you can send via pm but i am just wanting to post it here. i mean i can easily just read jailors transcripts

[FM Kuzan]

oh for cat theif nani if they ask what i think about that. i would say that its probally a jester/sheeping cit who should be disregarded. or at least try to give the indication that i shouldnt be killed by cp9 we need cp9 to know im navy. and that my marine claim is legit

[FM Kuzan]

or if you have a better idea/answer by all means go ahead. we could say i could even be a potental dder and that he wanted to use the dder as a link to marines via the jail but failed. but all in all i think we should ignore cat theif and focus on getting the escort/consrot or bigger priorty targets. dder can wait. my logic is that if they lynch dder town is wasting time on cp9 and allowing more kills we can sort out what drugs are being delt later. for now cp9 has bigger priorities that need to be taken out.

dder=little threat
infiltartor/pritares/arson?=bigger threat

my priority list on who i want dead

1) pirates obviously
2) rebel scum
3) nutral potentally
4) cp9/town

also in my huge post the * means dont say that i am looking at cp9

the problem i see with us right now is that we are on a double edged sword almost is that town has power in day. but cp9 has power at night.

if town wants more power they need to find the pirate caption and lynch him. not the witch. the witch knows not to kill marines. if you lynch witch pirate gain rights to kill again and has their own free will.

i think we should focus on the escort if possible and try to force a lynch on him because of the likelyhood of consort. if he continues to keep his escort calim intact he should say what the other pirate is. refer back to why its not the others have the SUPPOSIVE escort say what role it is and why. if he says disguiser simpily state that then disguiser would of taken a lurker and then just lurk all game.

also inform town that i will check who i deem is against us. i do like to follow what you think is scum as well. but if town has a huge slew of info on why this person should be checked they can post it and i will take it into consideration. however i will make my own fina say on who i want to check. i am open to listening to towns and who they want me to investigate but at same time i will check who i want.

suggestion for towns:

post the targets you want me to check and reasoning why. after day ends we can colaberate about who we should check overall and go from there. if one person say check this person im gonna take it for a gain of salt. but if many ppl suspect someone i will be more inclined to check that person.

[FM Kuzan]

if i find him ns we can disregard him. if i find him pirate/rebel we need to put some pressure on he could be reblized cit.

if he flips cp9 dont say anything about it yet.

if i find that hes nutral killer. its immitate fos on him and that you say he is evil.

here what i want to do with capone

ns: hes town/nutral, but inquire why he wants it
rebel: put on some pressure and then out him as rebel scum for cp9 to take care of
cp9: we can pressure and then if he claims cit or town we can say ns to give cp9 myter that i am with them
nutral killer/pirate: we fos him out right then and there and lynch him. when he claims cit we say that was his target

i would like to keep my target disclosed for tonight untill we feel confident. when day begins ill try to come on first and post what i got but we need ppl to fill in and post as well so it isnt obvious that im caption. if hes ns we can say capone is ns but i would like.

please make them aware that although somoen may appear ns to me that doesnt exclue them from being pirate caption. but odds are my ns leads are just that: ns

[FM Kuzan]

overall what i want to hear from the most is the escort/consort and what our missing pirate is. becasue pirate is a bigger concern to us.

if we can i want to try for the escort to be sliped. if hes so confident on his escort whats missing pirate (yes i know im restating things now but i feel need to order my priorityies of what i want done)

my questions for discuassion:
escort: whats missing pirate then?
capone: why do you want me to reveal?
town in general: who do you want me to check/look into? you can name mutable people but have resoning behing why you want them checked, shouting names will not encourage me to check them

things to say/wait on saying if inquired
my siding: hard to say. im torn town has the day power with us while cp9 has night power. im still pretty nutral overall on sidings
Town: majority and has lynch power and still has hidden rebles
cp9: nights killing power

this can be somewhat changed for a better image
what each side need to be aware of:
town: cp9 wins with pirates so if they do control the pirates they can do that to victory so we need to focus pirates
cp9: be wary about siding with pirates if i find you i will inform my enforcer forcing you to lose power and us.

this one is more iffy so tred carefuly if you think you have a better respons then what i have i give premission
how to get my favor:
town: kill off the last of the pirates and rebels
cp9: gain the majorirty of both day and night

[FM Kuzan]

questions so far

@escort: if you are escort what missing pirate role
@capone: why you want me to reveal?
@town: who do you want me to check + reasons
@everyone/town: what do we think the nutral killer is (if there is one). I think arson
@supposive student: if bonnie isnt journalist what is/do you think is bonnie?
@bonnie: why did the framer defend you?
@student: why did you pick that person as your mentor? (not because of jounailaist but why pick that person out of all the ppl)
@student your color coding in your paper is odd. you color bonnie red and purple. i also notice you say and i quote

I certainly hope we have a consort, so Bonney doesn't get away, but if she does at least her options are limited.

please explain that. your paper seems a little scetchy when i look on how you colored bonnie when i look at it.

bonnie could be cp9 material so if you want to add
@bonnie proper role claim is in order for you. and if you calim power role i want your actions

ill try to think of some questions for me as well if you have any post them here with answers

[FM Kuzan]

@town: cat theif is prob dder and should be disrgarded dder has little power in doing any harm, cant kill, we can deal with some drugging we can lynch cat later right now we need to focus on the more important powers like pirates and infiltator

[FM Smoker]

I'll answer some of those.

@escort: if you are escort what missing pirate role

Drug Dealer.

@everyone/town: what do we think the nutral killer is (if there is one). I think arson

Arsonist (70% probable), or Electromaniac who wanted to remain hidden by doing a single "First night" dual-charge while the DD messes with us.

[FM Kuzan]

unfortanetly ddr is only cp9 aligned and cant be pirate role

[FM Kuzan]

im glad we are both on right now so we can chat as well

[FM Smoker]

im glad we are both on right now so we can chat as well

If you could make a quick summary? :

1. Who you think is Non-Citizen.
2. Who you think is NOT CP9 but could be something else.
3. Who you think is NOT Pirate but could be something else.

If there's a Mayor into play, who do you think it would be?



After that, I think we're pretty much filled out with information for now.

[FM Kuzan]

the key thing i want to at least porty cat theif is being to town is ignore me im the dumb unessacary cp9 so cp9 knows who i tulry am and dupe the town. this way i got portection on both ends

and sure give me a min to put roles in here i'll post that if i get time later i might try pluggin in roles and names but i didnt take much notes but i have a good feel

[FM Kuzan]

im gonna leave the live ppl on list and name what they could be aligned and going off my leads of ns

FM Bartholomew Kuma (cit)
FM Basil Hawkins (could be legit doc)
FM Big Mom (lynched cit)
FM Black Leg Sanji (pirate consort)
FM Blackbeard (cp9?)
FM Buggy the Clown (i want to say bug claimed bus dirver) check post aobut mush at begining of day 4
FM Capone Bege (cp9?)
FM Cat Thief Nami (me)
FM Crocodile (missing in action arson much)
FM Don Krieg (cit)
FM Donquixote Doflamingo (nutral)
FM Dracule Mihawk (possible cit/pr/mayor)
FM Fire Fist Ace (cit)
FM Gecko Moria (nutral/cit)
FM Jewelry Bonney (cit/diffrent pr?)
FM Jimbei (cit)
FM Marco the Phoenix (you)
FM Red Haired Shanks (replaced)
FM Roronoa Zoro (post 113 day 4)= ???
FM Scratchmen Apoo (cit)
FM Sogeking (cp9)
FM Soul King Brook (claimed cit)
FM Straw Hat Luffy (town cit/pr)
FM Tony Tony Chopper (possible town pr/cit)
FM Wet Haired Caribou (cit)
FM X Drake (cp9?)

also not im relying on other imputas and readin thorugh chats right now

this is a very rough outline and i kinda rushed it but meh it will do i hope

[FM Kuzan]

btw do you have a list?

[FM Kuzan]

Arsonist (70% probable), or Electromaniac who wanted to remain hidden by doing a single "First night" dual-charge while the DD messes with us.

also i want this to be cleared if the peron on interview claim to be caption. i have not recived a request for an interview.

heres the codeword that i wan to use becasue i know if you ask about 30 lives ppl might figure its me being caption. instead have me say the % you think arson is existant.

I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE PPL CLAIMING MY ROLE. us marines take impersination very seriously

have me quote that word by word or say quote post (numer of your choice). but make sure its your post

[FM Kuzan]

if they ask my take on vantrill vs diff cp9. i want to think cp9 has vantrill and that they just kill the vatrill target after its being used. if it isnt i could say grave robber.

my cp9 list:
infiltarot (set)
witch (who has command over pirates)
dder (due to the mixture of results ppl having)
gave robber/vantrill/spy falls under the last one but i dont want them knwoing that i think spy exist (i personally think not due to the fact that we have been posting targets in our chat for the past sevral nights)

vantrill: just seems likely and big mom was just off
grave robber: could explain the lack of vantrill claims unless they kill their targets afterwards.
spy: possiblilty but unlikely due to fact that we have been posting in here and firt mate has posted in here as well

[FM Kuzan]

oh i just got an idea. if ppl pressure me about my marine cred i could go on and troll/say im acc dder. and if they strt a lynch trian on me i can try to throw myself off by saying lynching me will beinfit us (the cp9) more due to the fact that we do controll thepirate caption and we will use it. so focsuing me is a waste of time. It may make me lose all crdabilty but it could allow me to act. what you think? should i out as dder. we know cp9 wont say anything and they will know what im doing

pro: cp9 instantly knows my ture role prob as marine capt, pirates might just buy it, allows me to speak semi indipendently and allows me to communicate ideas, dder is soething town doesnt need to deal with as much, wont be cced
cons: cp9 against majority, town might go after me if has no better leads, could force me to reveal true role.

i want your imput, fake myself bing cp9s dder and see if i can get town off my back or just be lurker

[FM Kuzan]

another option is that you just discredit me and go with me being dder and we can save cat theif for later right now pirotires for town should be pirates or even that i could be a jester (jester seems unlikely but could be plausable) what we need to establish tom if the sides

town: im cp9 but not poriorty can can be delt with later
cp9: im the marine caption dont kill me

we either need to get a pirate lynch going or a myslnch i would like

[FM Kuzan]

if the town would like to talk to me or have questions for me and im not revelaed plz have them post i will answer them at night or if i can during they day somehow.

[FM Kuzan]

ok i got an idea how to be lurky yet give you me lead

2 ways
1: i change kuzans avatar to match the color of the alignment i detect
green: town/ns
yellow: rebel
ect

or what i can do is make one post yet use bb coding on it like so:

town/ns
rebel
cp9
pirate
nutral killer

the nuber is the dircet answer to what it would be so if its size 3 its cp9 if its size 1 its town/ns

think that would work?

[FM Smoker]

ok i got an idea how to be lurky yet give you me lead

From my knowledge, I don't think we're allowed to do that. That includes signatures as well.

[FM Smoker]

or what i can do is make one post yet use bb coding on it like so:

town/ns
rebel
cp9
pirate
nutral killer

the nuber is the dircet answer to what it would be so if its size 3 its cp9 if its size 1 its town/ns

think that would work?

That could work, though.

[FM Kuzan]

That could work, though.

then ill do that XD

what i will do though is prob say someone stole my first post or some crap. make it filler/spammy

[FM Kuzan]

also i might not be able to post at begining of day due to work. i can try but it might be a few hours before i can get on

[FM Kuzan]

also i dont want to play my entire hand out of what i think. have them ask about me and what i think. if we can keep some of this info clasified from everyone. i want to see if we can catch any rebels.

towns primarcy focus should be the cp9s infiltrator or another pirate to lower their kpn if they want to win. if they try a lynch train on me say lynching dder wont do too much benifits due to fact that dder will only stop dding, it wont lower kpn and still allow cp9 to keep power. i think town should focus on escort/consorts. also if you happen to be on say before anyone claims rb i want the acclaimed escort to say who he rbed and then have that person confirm. im alo intrigued to see who was interviewed.

[FM Kuzan]

ok the day will start soon hopefully you see these posts. i have work when the day begins for aobut 5 hrs. i might have time to make one post if it opens on time.

it will be 9 am my time when the day begins i will also have to start work. i have about 5 hrs before i have a break so if i post in between that timeframe a lot know that it is not me