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    Exclamation Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Since the glorious and long awaited patch 1.5 has came out, I have decided to help out the development team on skimming out the best roles suggested by the community.

    It will work like this:

    If you have a good role idea that you strongly believe would benefit the game, you can reply to this thread suggesting the role. You can also suggest other roles created by other users as well. To submit a role, do all of the following:

    1. Reply to this thread
    2. Type
    Role: [insert role name]
    Brief description of role: [max 2 sentences]
    [paste link to the thread it was originally suggested in]
    User: [insert name of the user who CREATED it]


    You can suggest up to 3 roles

    Once I believe there is enough roles suggested, I will make a new thread with a poll. This poll will highlight all the best roles suggested by you, the community, and people will be able to decide on which role they want the most in the game. The number of roles on the pole will depend on the submissions to this thread, but will be no more than 25 (probably around 20). All the roles will have links to their original threads (by the format listed above) so users can investigate and learn more about the role. Once the poll is over, the top 3 roles that gained the most votes will be submitted to the R&D team for more serious consideration.

    NOTE:

    -If you don't have all the necessary fields filled in, your role won't be looked at.
    -Only the first 3 roles you suggest will be looked at, don't bother submitting more.
    -Please only submit roles that were well-received by the community. They must be the following:
    1. Original
    2. Balanced and can stand on its own
    3. Will implement more metagame/strategy to the game

    -Be nice, don't just suggest your own roles, try to suggest others that you find great as well.
    -The poll will be multiple choice.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Not sure if ideas gathered this way will be adopted, but is it allowed to suggest ideas that were already posted in R&D? Simply for the sake of polling interest from the community for roles that were cheered on in the past but that currently aren't being talked about anymore?
    [FMVI: Angel FMVIII: Gunsmith FMIX: Peasant FMX: Blacksmith
    MFM-I: Serial Killer MFM-II: Citizen MFM-III: Detective MFM-IV: Godfather/Witch MFM-V: Emperor MFM-VI:Host
    SFM-I: Spy SFM-II: Bandit SFM-III: Host SFM-VI: Skeleton Knight
    Awards: MFM-IV MVP SFM-VI MVP]

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    @Borkbot
    It is allowed, you can briefly describe the role but you can't copy and paste the entire role as that will be leaking info from R&D which is disallowed. Just paste the link, only those who are VIP/donors/staff will be able to see the thread anyways.

    [MOD EDIT] Do not describe roles from R&D, any role which paraphrases an R&D role without linking to a thread which exists outside of R&D will be treated as leaking.
    Last edited by Raptorblaze; August 2nd, 2012 at 11:32 PM.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Role: Enchantress
    Brief description of role: You influence the minds of others to attract their attention or keep them off your doorstep. Every night, you may lure a player to force them to target you and repel a player to stop them from targeting you.
    link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ht=enchantress
    User:
    Fulla
    (proposed role options wouldn't work. would suggest changing options to alter the effect of repel (roleblock/redirect to random player/redirect to lured player as discussed in the original thread)
    [FMVI: Angel FMVIII: Gunsmith FMIX: Peasant FMX: Blacksmith
    MFM-I: Serial Killer MFM-II: Citizen MFM-III: Detective MFM-IV: Godfather/Witch MFM-V: Emperor MFM-VI:Host
    SFM-I: Spy SFM-II: Bandit SFM-III: Host SFM-VI: Skeleton Knight
    Awards: MFM-IV MVP SFM-VI MVP]

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Role: Locksmith
    Description : You are a Locksmith, in charge of repairing and changing the locks of your fellow townsmen. Abilities, option suggestions and such can be found in the link below, as well as lengthy discussion and further suggestions for the role.
    link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...700#post130700
    User: LeaD
    Role: Pickpocket

    Description: You are a young thief, blessed with swift hands. Counterpart (sharing the same invest msg) to the Locksmith. Read more about him the thread below!
    link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...700#post130700
    User: LeaD

    Role: Samurai
    Description: You have honed your skills as a bushi after long years of secluded training. Now you strive to walk the path of righteousness.
    link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...923#post130923
    User: LeaD

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Role: Prisoner
    Brief Description: A mysterious convict whose only purpose is to escape prison to either integrate himself once again with society, or revert back to killing.
    Link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-Idea-Prisoner
    User: gaspiden

    Role: Hustler
    Brief Description: A likable yet shady and manipulative buisnessman willing to negotiate on both sides of the fence (town or mafia), so long as he gets his end of the bargain.
    Link: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ns-and-Hustler
    User: gaspiden

    (saving my last role until I find a really great town or mafia role).
    Last edited by gaspiden; August 2nd, 2012 at 03:04 PM.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Role: Sleuth / Dirty Sleuth
    Brief description of role: Can read the current last will of a living player at night.
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...h-Dirty-Sleuth
    User: Kromos

    Role: Mortician
    Brief description of role: Can visit a dead body and discover what actions were performed on it (i.e. Witched, framed, investigated). Mortician is not informed on which night these actions occurred.
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...tion-Mortician
    User: Borkbot?

    +1 for Enchantress. I was going to suggest it before Bork did.
    Last edited by Kromos; August 2nd, 2012 at 03:22 PM.
    Spoiler : FM History :
    FM VI: Commoner | FM VIII: Citizen (Tweek Tweak) | FM IX: Detective (Alexei) | FM X: Citizen (Zack) | FM XI: Citizen (Nautilus) | FM XII: Consigliere (Bronn) | FM XIII: Grave Robber (Tarkin) | FM XIV: Citizen (Mohiam) | FM XV: Electro Maniac (Togepi) | FM XVII: Citizen / Rebel (Tony Tony Chopper)

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Role: Neutral Killer
    Brief description of role: Randomly picks between the neutral killers
    [https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...dom-quot-roles]
    User: Sraw

    Role: Agent
    Brief description of role: Mafia member who can target a player to have his role cleaned upon being lynched.
    [https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...New-Role-Agent]
    User: maccabbe

    Role: Cult Founder
    Brief description of role: Leader of the cult who cannot be killed at night. If there are no living cultists he has immunity at night but if there are living cultists and if Cult Founder is attacked at night a random cultist dies instead of him.
    [https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...le-Cult-Leader]
    User: not me (couldn't find original thread so I made a new thread with what I remembered to test his reception)
    Last edited by maccabbe; August 5th, 2012 at 06:24 AM.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Quote Originally Posted by ALL HAIL CTHULHU View Post
    Role: The Matchmaker
    Brief description of role: Investigates by targeting 2 players and determining if these 2 players can win together
    Thread
    User: ALL HAIL CTHULHU
    Wow, I completely missed this role. I like it


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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    gaspiden I like your role. also a +1 to the prisoner
    G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2
    S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    These 3 are my most recent ones. I had decent older ones, though.

    Role: Knave
    Description:
    Gets a random target day one. Can speak to target, but target cannot talk back. If target is annoying, can murder target and kill them instantly. Wins alone.
    Link:
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/11054-Knave-Butler
    User:
    cookies4you

    Role:
    Butler
    Description:
    Gets a random target day one. Can converse with target. If target is attacked at night, the Butler and his target swaps places. Wins with Town.
    Link:
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/11054-Knave-Butler
    User:
    cookies4you

    Role:
    Taxi Driver
    Description:
    Swap the targets of two targets at night. Can target self in an attempt to run over someone.
    Link:
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/10233-The-Taxi-Driver
    User:
    cookies4you

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    I just wanted to remind everyone that I am still in need of good solid role suggestions for the upcoming poll. Thanks for those who have already posted their suggestions, but I would like to see more in order to get a better representation and validity for the poll, and the results.

    If you have any role suggestions that you have read or created that you like, feel free and don't be shy to suggest.

    Thanks.

    FYI: The Poll will be up in 2 or 3 days (Tuesday).
    Last edited by gaspiden; August 5th, 2012 at 01:11 AM.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Random roles I thougth of, if it is suggested by another then I'm sorry and full credit to them.




    Role :
    Barkeeper

    Description :
    The Barkeep is as said, barkeep and owner of the saloon.


    The Barkeeper may invites everyone at choice to talk in his bar at night.
    If someone joins in and are left to do something else in the night E.G investigate or murder, they are seen leaving the saloon.
    The barkeep may offer one target to rent a room, becoming invulnerable to both murder and investigations, but unable to use their ability.


    User :
    RLVG





    Role :
    Barber

    Description :
    A master of changing looks.
    The Barber may permanentally switch the look of the two targeted.
    The Barber may not change the looks of someone already switched.
    If a Bus Driver switches a target of the Barber, the Barber will not use his ability.


    User :
    RLVG





    Role :
    Con man

    Description :

    A master of disguise and charisma.
    The Con man may target someone to knock out and steal his identity and talk under his / her name for the day.
    The Con Man will take the targets place, including everything that happens during night E.G Murder / investigation.
    The knocked out target may not use his ability or speak during the night & day, consindered a roleblock. (Role-block immunes may not be disguised).


    User :
    RLVG
    Last edited by RLVG; August 5th, 2012 at 03:28 AM.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Quote Originally Posted by gaspiden View Post
    I just wanted to remind everyone that I am still in need of good solid role suggestions for the upcoming poll. Thanks for those who have already posted their suggestions, but I would like to see more in order to get a better representation and validity for the poll, and the results.

    If you have any role suggestions that you have read or created that you like, feel free and don't be shy to suggest.

    Thanks.

    FYI: The Poll will be up in 2 or 3 days (Tuesday).
    i think you do not know what representation and validity mean in statistics.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    @ Lead

    Please, please, I beg of you, enlighten me.

    Edit: Still waiting to be enlightened. Btw I used representation in more of a survey term, as in, in order to make a more accurate (not precise) report you need to survey as many people as possible on a specific demographic of the population depending on your aim. In this scenario, I was implying that by only having a few roles (most of which created by the same users) it's not at all a reliable way to represent the BEST of the community's roles. The more diverse suggestions, the more accurate the report.

    As for "validity", I used in a way to say whether the poll or not would be "valid" (i.e a fair representation in which the results could be used). The results could be considered valid if the poll itself fairly represented its targeted group. If for example all of the poll's suggestions were only created by 3 users, and only few well-accepted by the community, then regardless of the poll's results, it wouldn't be entirely valid. Since it did not at all represent the best of the entire community's roles.
    Last edited by gaspiden; August 5th, 2012 at 03:52 AM.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Well for starters validity and representation never stand in themselves. They have several types, which in turn mean several different things. I'm too lazy to fish out every piece and bit i learnt somewhere along the road to clarify which type you should use here for. The general terms are, well, overgeneralized in their use. You make yourself look just like a bigshot politician trying to use words they read about once.

    For further reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoso...ific_reasoning
    To be precise you wanted to say that in order to get a representation of the population in question, you need a more diversified sample than you have received so far.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Quote Originally Posted by LeaD View Post
    Well for starters validity and representation never stand in themselves. They have several types, which in turn mean several different things. I'm too lazy to fish out every piece and bit i learnt somewhere along the road to clarify which type you should use here for. The general terms are, well, overgeneralized in their use. You make yourself look just like a bigshot politician trying to use words they read about once.

    For further reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoso...ific_reasoning
    To be precise you wanted to say that in order to get a representation of the population in question, you need a more diversified sample than you have received so far.
    I hope you realize that words have synonyms (i.e they can mean different things). I used the terms correctly in the context that I was saying them. If you look up the words in the dictionary, you will have found that I did use them correctly. If you want me to rephrase the sentence, it'll sound like this: "In order to produce valid results for the purpose at hand, I would need a more "diversified sample than what I have received so far". Really this is just being nit picky and gives no significant difference. I was hoping you would wow me with some response in terms of its mathematical definition. I actually was inclined to learn something new. Sadly, this was not the case and all I got was "you just try to make yourself look just like a bigshot politician". No, this was just years of doings essays, using a thesaurus, and reading.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Quote Originally Posted by gaspiden View Post
    I hope you realize that words have synonyms (i.e they can mean different things).
    If you weren't falling asleep when writing this, please consult a dictionary to determine the definition(s) of synonym.
    Last edited by maccabbe; August 5th, 2012 at 12:43 PM. Reason: Inserted comma

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Synonym: "A word having the same or nearly the same meaning as another in the language" (Dictionary.com). Yes, I guess I did get slightly confused with synonyms as opposed to a word having several definitions. My bad. However since we're editing our posts, I might as well add that there is a missing comma after "this" in your post. As it stands, the sentence is a run-on since you're combining a dependent clause with an independent clause without its necessary punctuation.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    i'm not judging your grammer, just correcting the context of what you write. My professors tend to haul back alot of my research papers, including several notes on the use of correct empirical terms. Just thought it could help you out.

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Quote Originally Posted by LeaD View Post
    i'm not judging your grammer, just correcting the context of what you write. My professors tend to haul back alot of my research papers, including several notes on the use of correct empirical terms. Just thought it could help you out.
    Alright thanks bro. I appreciate the help. What's your major?

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    Re: Submit your top 3 roles for consideration! Skimming out the best roles from the community!

    Well I just wanted to remind everyone that today is the last and final day I will be accepting role suggestions. From the suggestions gathered here, I will be making the poll (which will be later on today).

    If you have any role suggestions that you like or find worthy, submit them now or wait for the poll.

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