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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by JackWolfsong View Post
    Or at least apply option for Detectives and Lookouts to not visit their target's house just watching people coming in and out.
    this would make good sense with me... but then how would Mass Murderer ever get to kill them? if they visit someone they won't be in anyone's house

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by MissingNo View Post
    Even though the detective "follows", im pretty sure that he would be considered to be at the MM's house if he follows the MM.

    That means that as long as the MM doesn't visit his own home, the detective could find him out.
    But the detective would only find out that he visited some guy who didn't die (if he was a PR and targeted to visit someone).

    He'd have to know that other people who visited the person that he tracked this guy visiting died last night and he didn't. Much harder to figure out, or relies on people always leaving last wills stating who they're targeting that night.

  4. ISO #104

    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Who said MM cannot visit himself ;) it would work like a Veteran and probably should be consider as a alternate option for not possessing ability to kill Detective at all. Well, he can have multiple kills, Arsonist is pretty much nerfed comparing to SK for that one reason.

    Another thing - MM would be able to kill Detective still if he role-blocked.
    Last edited by JackWolfsong; August 4th, 2012 at 07:04 AM.

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    But the detective would only find out that he visited some guy who didn't die (if he was a PR and targeted to visit someone).

    He'd have to know that other people who visited the person that he tracked this guy visiting died last night and he didn't. Much harder to figure out, or relies on people always leaving last wills stating who they're targeting that night.
    So?

    Escort dying to sk relies on people leaving in their last will who they are visiting. Jailor who he jailed, etc.

    It isn't the game's fault (or the role's fault) if people don't play well enough. There is also a chance that he sees the MM go to a cits/mayors/masons/etcs house and figures it out that way since they don't move.


    Detective definitely CAN find the MM.


    Lookout, on the other hand, is pretty boned when it comes to the MM. But its fine if one role can't find him.

    edit: actually, lookout can find him with the help of a doctor.
    Last edited by MissingNo; August 4th, 2012 at 08:35 AM.

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Uh, when is it coming?
    I think it should be paired up with detective..
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Hang on, if a busdriver swaps him with his target, will he still be "hit by a bus", while the busdriver dies? Because that would be...weird.
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    Hang on, if a busdriver swaps him with his target, will he still be "hit by a bus", while the busdriver dies? Because that would be...weird.
    Not really sure what you mean, but if BD swaps Mass Murderer and the target of Murderer, wouldn't it make him awaiting at his house(Cause MM can target himself changing into Vet, as Elixir said in the first post).

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    targeting self while immune at night basically makes him invincible to detection.
    op
    I love oops

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    targeting self while immune at night basically makes him invincible to detection.
    op
    Not even.

    All Inv, Det, Lookout, roles have to do is say -lw checking X tonight.

    Think things through all the way please.

    Jailors get Jailbreaking SKs all the time by -lw Jailing X tonight.
    If he gets killed by an SK that night odds are pretty good we know who is guilty....

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by SayGen View Post
    Not even.

    All Inv, Det, Lookout, roles have to do is say -lw checking X tonight.

    Think things through all the way please.

    Jailors get Jailbreaking SKs all the time by -lw Jailing X tonight.
    If he gets killed by an SK that night odds are pretty good we know who is guilty....
    nobody ever leaves useful last wills in pubs.
    that still wouldn't prove that it was him, he can visit anyone.
    I love oops

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    If a lookout watches a player who visits the MM's target what does he see? Does the MM attack count as a visit or is it like vet?

    On one hand his ability is like a portable vet so it makes sense to treat it like vet. On the other hand it is stronger than vet since he can kill players who do nothing. In addition this is an evil/good comparison so it could be treated like how spy can hear mafia chat but not mason chat even though they are similar.

    Personally I think that lookout should only detect the people the MM attacks while detective should detect the person MM choses to visit. I mean the lookout is seeing if players performed actions on other players, not their houses.
    Last edited by maccabbe; August 5th, 2012 at 12:45 AM.

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    mmh just had a thought... with this new role... it's kinda like Vet... and if Witch was to visit the MM and send him some where Witch would be safe... right?
    but what if Vet was changed to work the same way? if a Witch visit a Vet and make him target someone else... he'd go to that house at kill everyone that enter?
    or would it make Witch too powerful over Vet?

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    MM will be affected by witch.
    that's very interesting. if witch knows whom is the MM the witch can kill a lot of people.
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Chane View Post
    that's very interesting. if witch knows whom is the MM the witch can kill a lot of people.
    or the witch could make the MM kill nobody lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaD View Post
    so when is this role getting implemented?
    whenever DR finishes crossing his 1's and dotting his 0's.

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    So, then the MM and witch would die?
    this ^^

    should be an achievement.
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by MissingNo View Post
    Why would the mm die?
    because he visited himself and his target visits himself, therefore, it causes an infinite loop that can only be stopped by death.
    but, tbh, idk if he would die or not, just an assumption.

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    considered game-throwing.
    negative.

    Even if it was, 99% of this time this wouldn't be intentional. And the other 1%, who would report the Witch for killing themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    because he visited himself and his target visits himself, therefore, it causes an infinite loop that can only be stopped by death.
    but, tbh, idk if he would die or not, just an assumption.
    No loop. He just visits himself and acts like a vet, just as if he targeted himself normally
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by MissingNo View Post
    No loop. He just visits himself and acts like a vet, just as if he targeted himself normally
    Yea, as soon as you questioned it, I thought about it; it didn't make much sense at that point

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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    negative.

    Even if it was, 99% of this time this wouldn't be intentional. And the other 1%, who would report the Witch for killing themselves.
    you took the words out of mouth. this.
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    damn shame I can't play

    game either crashes at loading screen or feezes up n2/3/4

    in 1.4.4 everything was fine but blizzard f*cked 1.5 up
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    Re: ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

    What happens when the doctor is at the MM's targeted house and the doctor heals another person at the targeted house? Does the healing occur before the MM kills everyone in the house? Example:

    MM visits a Citizen. Doc heals that Citizen. Will MM kill them both because his attack has first priority? Or will the heal come first, and the Cit lives (and only the Doc dies)?

 

 

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