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  1. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    That said, it's a game of deception. To allow someone to report someone else for lying opens up an entire can of worms:

    1. I'm an liaison, and claim escort. Lag cries "ESCORT ISNT POSSIBLE READ THE ROLE LIST". Now reportable
    If escort is possible(free slots in roles list that can fit in an escortg) and someone is trying to convince noobs escort is impossible, I'm not against it.
    If escort is possible(expected count>0) and someone is trying to convince noobs escort is impossible(expected count=0), then it indeed should be reportable.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    2. I'm a witch and claim enchantress. Tauntshaman tells people that "ENCHANTRESS CAN'T MAKE YOU VISIT SOMEONE ELSE ONLY THEMSELVES"
    Which is correct?


    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    Asking SR for their car is attempting to prove a nearly unproveable role. There's nothing abusive about it. If someone wants to BS to get them lynched, it's literally the game.
    And doctor is more unprovable than SR, yet more ppl fake claim doc than SR. Why? Because people like you ask SR for car model, while doctor roles don't have unique UI text.


    Quote Originally Posted by CaNNoN View Post
    Funny how TauntShaman, who has been SR at least 40-50 times that I've seen, only cries about that now that he got a griefing & reactionary gamethrowing report against him for his actions following this event.

    Only when it's convenient for him, huh.
    lol "only cries about that now". I've always been against asking SR for car model. Just ask @ChannelMiner , I called it cheating when he did like a few months back. Also, how the hell was I griefing & reactionary gamethrowing? By calling you a cheater?
  2. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    people claim the car model because it's fun flavor text.

    No one tries to ask people what word oracle feedback uses, like is it "divine" or "foretell" or "read the bones" or whatever because who cares? No one tries to ask people what sound their role made at the start of the game because who cares?
    No idea what you are talking about, Did you read my post thoroughly?
    Are you interpreting my post as me being against people claiming their car model to increase the legitimacy of their claims? How many 2.0 games have you played?

    People claim the car model not because it's fun, but because they are forced to. If they don't do so, they get lynched for "fake claiming" SR. And that is what I'm against.
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    ►►Re: Why I Started Playing Sc2 Mafia◄◄

    I'm playing Sc2Mafia because I can't ever get ToS to work on my browser LOLOLOL
  4. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    Have you reported anybody for it?
    C'mon aamirus you know how things are done here, if you spot a crime in a report that's not being reported, you add the crime to the report, you can't just let it slip because nobody is reporting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    Generally the person didn’t consider that they were being unfair and immediately stops once they’re told.
    NO, just come online and play a few games as SR, and try to tell them asking for car model is illegal on trial. Good luck on not getting lynched.
  5. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    It's been a rule since 2013 at the latest that forcing players to quote their role info verbatim is not allowed
    And this happens almost every game where there's a SR claim in the current meta, why don't I see anyone being punished for it?
  6. ►►Re: Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

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    Mafia is a game about deception, of course, but that doesn't mean one should lie about game mechanics and mislead new players to gain an advantage.

    Suppose i'm in a game with a only 3 players, me the Mafioso, a Sheriff and a noob who's also town. I managed to get the sheriff on trial, and the sheriff says something like "n1 #5 ns, n2 #6 is Mafia", and then I proceeds to spam "LIES SHERIFF DETECTS CRIMES AND INVESTIGATORS DETECT ALIGNMENT, GUILTY THIS MAFIA SCUM". If the noob town believed me and lynched the sheriff claim, resulting in a mafia win, will I be proud of myself for being good at lying? No, I will be ashamed of myself.
  7. ►►Confirming a role by asking the UI text only the role will see should be considered cheating◄◄

    I've always wanted to post this, and with the 2.0 update this problem has been way more severe and is making the game unfair to new players.

    People asking Street Racer claims about their car model should be considered cheating. People should not ask Oracles, Doctors and other roles for the message they receive during night sequences either.

    Situation 1.
    I'm an evil claiming SR, people ask me about the car model and I can't came up with an answer. What will most likely happen is that I will get lynched for being "fake SR".

    Situation 2.
    I'm a noob SR claiming SR, people ask me about the car model and I can't came up with an answer because I never drifted and didn't know about the car model's name. What will most likely happen is that I will get lynched for being "fake SR".

    Situation 3.
    I'm an evil claiming SR, people ask me about the car model and I chose a random one from my list of car models that may show up in game. Then there's a good chance I get innoed not because I'm real SR, but because people think I'm real SR.

    Do you see the problem? If people are judging SR claims by whether they can give a correct car model name, what will ultimately happen is that experienced players will just collect a list of correct car models and that's about it. No mind games, no strategy, no counting, no psychology. And this puts new players at a disadvantage.

    Oracles claims can have this problem too. If I'm a player who never played oracle once and is fake claiming oracle, I'm certainly not going to know the message Oracles receive upon divination. In fact, I was surprised that the verb "divine" is used to describe the action when I play oracle for the first time.
  8. {Permanently Banned} ►►CHUNGUS 1-S2-1-12482719; Pineapple 1-S2-1-11757733◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    afk: 1-S2-1-3151647
    CHUNGUS: claims to be pineapple, ban-evasion

    Summary
    afk roles Double Flower in slot 15 with name Shaunyan Long
    On day 2 he shoots #5 the Judge for being the first one to talk, instead of waiting for constable/crier/other confirmed town roles.
    Triad night chats shows that he's reactionary game-throwing because he doesn't like the save.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Constable was able to reveal and live due to Judge being dead and Triad having one less double flower shot. On last night there's 4 players alive, three town and one triad.

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    I have played ~50 to 100 games with killy since mafia 2.0, I can confirm that the easter bunny save is the one he has always been hosting
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    [Role Change] ►►Re: Poisoner and Electromaniac need Night Immunity◄◄

    In the games I played as poisoner, I can kill <0.5 person per night on average.
    IMO not only does poisoner need NI, but it also needs detection immunity.
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    {Unsolved} ►►Judge 1 day between courts not working◄◄

    Courted day 2 and day 3.
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Gruppenfuehre: 1-S1-1-11251647◄◄

    Why is someone with 4 games who knows everything about how to play the game only potential smufing, not confirmed smurfing
    Ans why is it WL*3, not Permaban until they come here and appeal if it's potential smurfing, like these ones:

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-12174892
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-12228661
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    {Watch List} ►►Gruppenfuehre: 1-S1-1-11251647◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    Gruppenfuehre: 1-S1-1-11251647

    Respective Hotkeys
    Gruppenfuehre: E

    Summary
    Gruppenfuehre roles Bus Driver in slot 15 with name Leone Costa.
    Stereotypical gamethrowing with only 4 games played.
    Knows the various game terms, e.g. exec, scum, -suicide, interro.
    Knows how to use log and -lw.
    I suspect this to be a Rachyl smurf.

    Night 1:
    Gruppenfuehre does nothing. DH executed.

    Day 2:
    Gruppenfuehre accuses #10 Constable of being scum and that #10 "did it".
    #10 is trialed and claim constable and will shoot #6.

    Night 2:
    Gruppenfuehre is jailed and called Jailor an Interro and that he's not giving info, and is executed.

    Day 2:
    Constable is forced to shoot Mayor.
    Arson burnt constable and Jailor.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Yes, 4 town deaths are caused by him on night 2 and day 3.

    Player Offenses
    Gruppenfuehre: Smurfing, Gamethrowing.

    Recommended Action
    Smurfban


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    ►►Re: Speed Reading. Debunked or Real?◄◄

    Logos:
    University students on the night before exams, assignments dues etc. would desperately want to speedread through their course material, especially those who study social science or law, who usually have course materail known as "cases" that are usually several thousands words in length.

    I took a introductory business course (mainly managerial accounting) back then, and I on average spends like 4 hours preparing for each case. And I have never heard of such thing as "speedreading", therefore it's fake.

    BTW, what's your background in congitive science, neuroscience and psychology?
  15. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Glowman model not glowing

    Thread Author:lakij

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Glowman model not glowing◄◄

    Cuz dev is too busy
    Pringles: Why don't you get into blender and do it for me
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    {Watch List} ►►ReynaSmurf: 1-S2-1-2420999◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    ReynaSmurf: 1-S2-1-2420999

    Respective Hotkeys
    ReynaSmurf: Ctrl+5

    Summary
    ReynaSmurf roles investigator in slot 15 with name Mengyao Tsung.
    His player stats are not shown, however the game didn't say he is a new player, and he seems to know how to play the game.

    Night 1:
    ReynaSmurf investigates #5 SK and found him to have no crimes.

    Day 2:
    ReynaSmurf claims Investigator and that #5 is Mafia.
    #5 is voted up and claims BG, he is innoed.
    ReynaSmurf is voted up and changes his role claim to sheriff, he is innoed.
    #5 is voted up again and is lynched, he turns out to be SK.

    Night 2:
    ReynaSmurf investigates #14 Enchantress, and is repelled.

    Day 3:
    #8 Constable shoots #7 Heart Breaker
    #15 claims to have checked #8 and that #8 is Mafia.

    Night 3:
    ReynaSmurf investigates #8 and found him to have trespassing.

    Day 4:
    ReynaSmurf is lynched.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Yes, town lynched him day 4 and lost majority vote.

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    ►►Re: Enchantress 2 spell per use (maybe?)◄◄

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    ►►Enchantress 2 spell per use (maybe?)◄◄

    4 spell enchantress(Tauntshaman), UI disappeared on night 3 and onwards
    Also whoever I repel it says i repelled myself

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    ►►Same name appear twice in carol◄◄

    night 1 tauntshaman and night 3 mrmostache

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  20. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Enchantress no crimes

    Thread Author:Tauntshaman

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Enchantress no crimes◄◄

    lakij #13 the invest checking enchantress #5 night 3, coming up as nc
    #14 claims to not receive vest from armorsmith #2
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    ►►Re: Jailor able to jail Informant's original body◄◄

    Constable is able to shoot informants' original body too
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    ►►Re: Can you please clean up the list of in game moderators?◄◄

    On a side note, I totally agree that
    the 2.0 map has the wrong people as moderators.
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    ►►Re: Can you please clean up the list of in game moderators?◄◄

    Well you asked me to so I did as you requested And it seems when I change your name in setup phase you are not given a default names, so I was able to know who you are
  24. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Favorite computer language

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Favorite computer language◄◄

    Also I do remember brainfuck when I was learning Backus-Naur Form or something like that, it's indeed pretty funny lol
  25. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Favorite computer language

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Favorite computer language◄◄

    As an engineer who first learned pascal, and later learned some C#, Java, Turin, Matlab, C, VHDL, Shell, C++ and Python, I guess my favorite is... Java? I like Matlab too but I guess that's more of an scripting language so...


    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeacesGhost View Post
    My favourite computer languages are C++ and Python. I got A+ in those courses back in college. My least favourite computer language course was Machine Communication 305, which I barely passed and regret because the communication I have with my wife right now is not very good.
    Python is so bad imo... half of the time you have no idea what type of variable you are working with... And it's library installation is pure shit. I spent 4 fucking hours trying to install Matplotlib: downloading pip, using pip, changing path, add to path variable... and guess what? It still doesn't work. In the end I have to manually drag every function in the library to the directory specified by the path variable
  26. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

    Thread Author:Veliaire

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Do Admins actually play arcade?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    No, I'm not banned. I logged in today to find out I was warned for racism. So I got on to forums to see what it was all about, and after I submitted my appeal I decided to see all the recent bannings and noticed a couple of people were banned for racism. So I thought I'd give my view about what I think of censorship.
    Same here I afked for about a year from apr 2020 to may 2021 and BAM! I'm warned for impersonating moderators in june 2020, after doing it for around 200 times LOL.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►JagdPanther: 1-S2-1-11188354◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    JagdPanther: 1-S2-1-11188354

    Summary
    JagdPanther roles escort in slot 11 with name AFK Incest Master
    He made up investigator lw to accuse bus driver.

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    ►►Re: Join me in no masturbation for 2 months.◄◄

    AMATEURS.



    Y'all are Amateurs. I haven't masturbated for more than 2 decades.
  29. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

    Thread Author:Voss

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    are you on the sc2mafia discord?
    yes
  30. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

    Thread Author:Voss

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    I'd like to join but where's the channel?
  31. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:General Beta Feedback

    Thread Author:lawson

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: General Beta Feedback◄◄

    could just block party host from town gov so that it can only appear as town random
  32. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:mod previliege

    Thread Author:Tauntshaman

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►mod previliege◄◄

    So it appears that I still have mod status in 2.0
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    {Watch List} ►►agorikov: 1-S2-1-4139644◄◄

    SC ID VERIFICATION
    agorikov: 1-S2-1-4139644

    Summary
    Knowingly throwing on purpose. In every game he plays.
    Names himself Icefestor.

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Yes

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    ►►Re: One player die again after already dead◄◄

    didnt watch replay, but from your screen shot, i think 13 guiltied jester, then lynched by marshall, and died to jester the night following
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    ►►Re: -Mafia 2.0 Beta- Now Live on Battle.Net (Americas)◄◄

    Thanks a top bloke, you're Frinckles
  36. ►►Re: MafiaUniverse Mafia Championship Event, Season 7 - Nominations (Vote Here!)◄◄

    -vote Frinkles

    -vote Secret Dragon Execution
    as back up
    is that yui aragaki?
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    {Watch List} ►►RogueZealot: 1-S2-1-1855550◄◄

    SC ID
    RogueZealot: 1-S2-1-1855550 Correct.

    Summary
    he used a blackdot as his name

    Was the Game Result altered?
    Well yes but actually no

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  38. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Important Message

    Thread Author:JoeyDX

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Important Message◄◄

    you are banned for impersonating a cop
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: TauntShaman: 1-S2-1-8644522◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    You are drawing more attention to your posts than a player with fewer points should be able to.
    So you are saying using colored/bigger font itself is chat abuse no matter the context since whatever color/font it is, as long as it's not the normal font, it draws more attention? I admit that i was trying to draw attention, but not for game winning purposes!

    Now this looks like the html thing is left there just so you can punish people for using it? Isn't it kind of funny? Just remove the html thing then
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: TauntShaman: 1-S2-1-8644522◄◄

    Crime: Name Abuse
    This is naming yourself something so long that it blocks the chat box or the graveyard, naming yourself something that may appear to be blank, or coloring your name so dark it is very difficult to read.
    Examples: Using a name that is completely black; Making your name only a period "." or other insignificant character.
    Type: Additional Crimes

    Crime: Colour Chat Abuse
    This is using colour coding to highlight your in-game text to manipulate the game.
    Examples: Revealing as fake Mayor; highlighting text during court.
    Type: Additional Crimes

    You guys do realize that dragging attention is by no means comparable with Revealing as fake Mayor; highlighting text during court right? I can't find where in the rule book it says dragging attention is against it.

    I been using alternative fonts with mods in game for months and suddenly you tell me it's not allowed, like really?

    edit: if i remembered correctly, the last time u punish people for chat abuse they tried to smuggle pictures into chat no....
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: ViolatedLamb: 1-s2-1-4387839◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex123456789 View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    What does WLx3 mean.

    Also I don't understand why this is lag cheating. I had no idea 9 was triad. I was just bus driver.
    It means that you will receive a warning when u enter the game for 3 weeks

    this is lag cheating because in lag chat nobody knows if you are sheriff or not, people may assume u are actually sheriff and lynch the player. So better not say anything related to the game in lag chat.
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    ►►Re: Advanced Mafia Calculus e1◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    What about the order? With 12 shots and 4 players, on average each player will die 1/4 of the time, sure. But won’t the person going first, on average, pull the trigger the most and therefore get a larger share of the pot?

    Or is the order also random?
    if u assume everyone only pull once than order doesn't matter. for example, in a 3 shot roulette with 3 players:
    the first player has 1/3 chance to die
    the gun has 1/3 chance to fire in the first round, hence the chance of second player getting to pull is 2/3. and out of that 2/3 there's a 1/2 chance the gun will fire, 2/3*1/2=1/3
    similarly, the third player has 1/3 chance to pull and 1/1 chance for the gun to fore, thus making it 1/3 also




    ...and the share is only dependent on your initial bet and extra pulls, not the "forced" ones
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    ►►Re: Advanced Mafia Calculus e1◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    One can demonstrate that the average profit can be written as a function of the player's bet, like so:

    E(profit)=0.25*( (10,000B)/(B+200) + (200B)/(B+10,100) - B )

    Then, one can differentiate this equation w.r.t B and solving for its extrema (which will sadly be equivalent to solving a quartic).

    Lastly, one can plug all these extremum values for B (along with 1 and 11100) back into the function and uncover which extremum yields the largest value for E(profit).

    There are some issues with this approach. E(profit) merely represents the average amount of profit you're extremely likely to make after betting the same amount in this same scenario 100s of times. In reality you may run out of cash long before your average profit is E(profit)! Hence, this answer is highly theoretical.
    YOU GOT THE IDEA CONGRATS but no this is not the correct answer.

    Plug in your equation into desmos and it yields:
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    However, this is only valid [9800,+infinity) due to the rule that u can't bet more than all others' bet combined. for example, in a 3-man roulette, if the other 2 ppl bet 5 and 10 pts each, and you bet 60, you bet will be automatically lowered to 5+10=15pts

    Obviously on [9800,10200] there isn't a critical point, thus this is no the correct answer
  44. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Disconnected 2 times in a row

    Thread Author:Zedus

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: Disconnected 2 times in a row◄◄

    yeah it's a known issue i had one game where 6 players got kicked from the game (including me) after naming phase and we got reported for rolequitting.
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    ►►Advanced Mafia Calculus e1◄◄

    the game is a k shot roulette such that k>=3.
    The min bet is 1 points.
    There's 1 guy who bet 10000 points
    There's n other players such that 1<=n<=11, who bet 100 points each.
    Assume everyone are cowards who only pulls the gun once.
    Assume the gun never jams.
    Assume your max bet is 11100 points.

    Chapter 1
    Q1. Assume k=12 and n=2, how many points should you bet for maximum profit?

    (Hint: derive the equation once and find it's root!)
  46. Forum:Point Restore and White List Archive

    Thread:GuyTheSheep

    Thread Author:Guy

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: GuyTheSheep◄◄

    Approved for 4227 points, 91 victories, 156 games played.

    Achievements: The Last Laugh; Epic Fail; Flawless Victory; Divine Guidance; Last of Kin; State Religion; Hoist by his own Molotov; The Inquisition; Lisenced to Kill; Corleone; Coward's Clutch; Half Roles; Half Town; Half Neutral

    please join our discord and use tag @point restore to hook up with an "admin" to complete your restore in-game. Not "that many" of "us" so you might have to try a few times(so basically u have to hunt down MrMostache)
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    ►►Re: Destroyed +1000 points in roulette◄◄

    back in the days I lose 2442 points to mostache in one game and he denies to have hacked roulette
  48. Forum:Point Restore and White List Archive

    Thread:GuyTheSheep

    Thread Author:Guy

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    ►►Re: GuyTheSheep◄◄

    he appeared in a replay here:
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ht=GuyTheSheep
    the only replay i can find by searching"GuyTheSheep"
  49. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Barcode 1-S2-1-5307425

    Thread Author:Guy

    Post Author:Tauntshaman

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Demotic◄◄

    A replay is needed for a review to be processed, please attach the replay asap
    p.s. it can be found under my document/sc2 if u r using Macrohard Windows
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