December 18th, 2022, 06:01 PM
[MENTION=46366]Trout[/MENTION]
You played a very strong wolf game, you weren't caught, I just found Ikarus as town
@Trout
You played a very strong wolf game, you weren't caught, I just found Ikarus as town
December 18th, 2022, 05:52 PM
December 18th, 2022, 05:51 PM
[vote]Trout[/vote]
Don't have the energy to explain why I think this is the solve right now.
Sorry if wrong! If I am wrong, then ikarus played an incredibly strong game for his first wolf game, massive props to him!
-vote Trout
Don't have the energy to explain why I think this is the solve right now.
Sorry if wrong! If I am wrong, then ikarus played an incredibly strong game for his first wolf game, massive props to him!
December 18th, 2022, 11:24 AM
[MENTION=46366]Trout[/MENTION]
I'm probably going to hammer you unless you can convince me you're town with a town-casing of yourself
@Trout
I'm probably going to hammer you unless you can convince me you're town with a town-casing of yourself
December 17th, 2022, 06:30 PM
I am mechanically confirmed town now by virtue of Stealth + Me not hammering Trout when we were both available to do so.
I will now find the last wolf, I think I already know who it is, but want to do my due diligence with backreading.
I am mechanically confirmed town now by virtue of Stealth + Me not hammering Trout when we were both available to do so.
I will now find the last wolf, I think I already know who it is, but want to do my due diligence with backreading.
December 17th, 2022, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973237]Yeah so FYPOV we should hammer SB. FMPOV we should hammer Trout.[/QUOTE]
Except you think SB is also a wolf and I'm not sure between you and Trout and need more time to think about it.
You're wolf-siding, I don't know if you're a wolf-siding wolf or a wolf-siding town though.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
Yeah so FYPOV we should hammer SB. FMPOV we should hammer Trout.
Except you think SB is also a wolf and I'm not sure between you and Trout and need more time to think about it.
You're wolf-siding, I don't know if you're a wolf-siding wolf or a wolf-siding town though.
December 17th, 2022, 04:22 PM
[QUOTE=Varcron;973238]I'd like discussion to keep happening for a little bit before we hammer, just want to get all the time we can, y'know?[/QUOTE]
Feel free to keep discussing your thoughts, I have to leave though shortly
Originally Posted by
Varcron
I'd like discussion to keep happening for a little bit before we hammer, just want to get all the time we can, y'know?
Feel free to keep discussing your thoughts, I have to leave though shortly
December 17th, 2022, 04:18 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973234]My vote will stay now that Varcron is here. What does worry me is SB was here and reading posts but left without saying anything.
If Varcron is hammering SB, I'll accept the result[/QUOTE]
Because he's literally a wolf and knows he's dying
[IMG]https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/875975120030674966.webp?size=96&quality=lossless[/IMG]
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
My vote will stay now that Varcron is here. What does worry me is SB was here and reading posts but left without saying anything.
If Varcron is hammering SB, I'll accept the result
Because he's literally a wolf and knows he's dying
December 17th, 2022, 04:17 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973233]Mabel, after this post why are you still unsure I am not town[/QUOTE]
Because your reasoning for SB ika not being the team doesn't add up.
Varc is never voting me over SB16 - so putting your vote on me will be in vain as Varc hammers SB16 and then we go to a F3 where I'm confirmed as town and you look awful for not voting the then-flipped wolf.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
Mabel, after this post why are you still unsure I am not town
Because your reasoning for SB ika not being the team doesn't add up.
Varc is never voting me over SB16 - so putting your vote on me will be in vain as Varc hammers SB16 and then we go to a F3 where I'm confirmed as town and you look awful for not voting the then-flipped wolf.
December 17th, 2022, 04:15 PM
[QUOTE=Varcron;973231]I agree with that, though we still have time before EOD so there's no need to rush. Who is your second scumread btw?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure.
Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.
I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.
I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.
Originally Posted by
Varcron
I agree with that, though we still have time before EOD so there's no need to rush. Who is your second scumread btw?
I'm not sure.
Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.
I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.
I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.
December 17th, 2022, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=Varcron;973227]My thought process behind it would be because it's the least likely play available that a trout/SB team votes against SB[/QUOTE]
Exactly - they realize you've already turned against SB and so now they're WIFOMing
I'm not as convinced on Trout vs ikarusdk as you, but I think you should always be killing SB here.
Originally Posted by
Varcron
My thought process behind it would be because it's the least likely play available that a trout/SB team votes against SB
Exactly - they realize you've already turned against SB and so now they're WIFOMing
I'm not as convinced on Trout vs ikarusdk as you, but I think you should always be killing SB here.
December 17th, 2022, 04:05 PM
[QUOTE=MartinGG99;972886]
One of the Town are given glorified role, the Lazy Town sheriff. They will quit the job (game) as soon as one mafia is eliminated, and don't have any special powers beyond having a unique name.
[/QUOTE]
[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]
If you're town, you missed this part of the setup
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
One of the Town are given glorified role, the Lazy Town sheriff. They will quit the job (game) as soon as one mafia is eliminated, and don't have any special powers beyond having a unique name.
@ikarusdk
If you're town, you missed this part of the setup
December 17th, 2022, 04:01 PM
You're also not thinking ahead at all - Why would a Trout / SB team vote SB here?
There's an easy answer
Because if Trout is voting SB and you're not - then you look horrible going into that F3 for nearly losing town the game by not voting correctly.
You're also not thinking ahead at all - Why would a Trout / SB team vote SB here?
There's an easy answer
Because if Trout is voting SB and you're not - then you look horrible going into that F3 for nearly losing town the game by not voting correctly.
December 17th, 2022, 04:00 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973220]Mabel, you are asking me to hammer on SB who I view as town as of this morning. I thought I had made myself clear why I viewed Trout as scum and why I am town. Even if I was 50 50 between you and SB, all logic dictates I push votes on Trout.
Instead, you are asking me to risk a chance to lose, when we can guarantee a win tomorrow with Trout lynch[/QUOTE]
The sheriff dies if a wolf is chopped.
It goes from 3v2 to 2v1
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
Mabel, you are asking me to hammer on SB who I view as town as of this morning. I thought I had made myself clear why I viewed Trout as scum and why I am town. Even if I was 50 50 between you and SB, all logic dictates I push votes on Trout.
Instead, you are asking me to risk a chance to lose, when we can guarantee a win tomorrow with Trout lynch
The sheriff dies if a wolf is chopped.
It goes from 3v2 to 2v1
December 17th, 2022, 03:59 PM
Also [MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]
The sheriff dies after 1 scum dies.
The game either ends in a loss right now or it's 2v1 tomorrow
Also
@ikarusdk
The sheriff dies after 1 scum dies.
The game either ends in a loss right now or it's 2v1 tomorrow
December 17th, 2022, 03:56 PM
[QUOTE=MartinGG99;973086][MENTION=45982]oliverz144[/MENTION] dies to tie RNG and flips town
creation of an EoD2 countdown will be put into 1st post soon[/QUOTE]
This was 46 hours ago - it's almost [I]been[/I] 48 hours, Varc
Originally Posted by
MartinGG99
@
oliverz144
dies to tie RNG and flips town
creation of an EoD2 countdown will be put into 1st post soon
This was 46 hours ago - it's almost been 48 hours, Varc
December 17th, 2022, 03:51 PM
Also, seriously [MENTION=43484]Varcron[/MENTION] ??
What are you doing just not showing up for two EoDs in a row without even dropping a vote, :/ :/ :/
Also, seriously
@Varcron
??
What are you doing just not showing up for two EoDs in a row without even dropping a vote, :/ :/ :/
December 17th, 2022, 03:51 PM
ika please just hammer SB - if Varcron doesn't show up wolves can just tie the vote at the last second.
If you refuse to hammer SB, I will absolutely treat that as a scum claim in F3
ika please just hammer SB - if Varcron doesn't show up wolves can just tie the vote at the last second.
If you refuse to hammer SB, I will absolutely treat that as a scum claim in F3
December 17th, 2022, 11:41 AM
[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;973195]I have no idea how you feel you can justify pinging the two town members to vote me. That’s literally openwolfing.[/QUOTE]
you_irl
[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/51gaSlicHIYAAAAC/woof-trebek.gif[/IMG]
Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
I have no idea how you feel you can justify pinging the two town members to vote me. That’s literally openwolfing.
you_irl
December 17th, 2022, 10:50 AM
Also [MENTION=43484]Varcron[/MENTION]
Please vote SB16 before EoD
We need your vote!
Also
@Varcron
Please vote SB16 before EoD
We need your vote!
December 17th, 2022, 10:48 AM
ikarus's worldview of wanting to chop Trout today is internally consistent - since from a town~Ikarus POV Trout is pretty confirmed wolf.
[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]
Let's chop SB today.
Trout looks like a wolf to you because you know you're town, but no one else can know that, so for everyone else the chop between you and Trout isn't as clear.
I am never wrong in F3 so I'm very confident that town just wins this at this point, if you're town you can rest easily knowing I'll find you. If you're wolf, sorry for your loss :p
ikarus's worldview of wanting to chop Trout today is internally consistent - since from a town~Ikarus POV Trout is pretty confirmed wolf.
@ikarusdk
Let's chop SB today.
Trout looks like a wolf to you because you know you're town, but no one else can know that, so for everyone else the chop between you and Trout isn't as clear.
I am never wrong in F3 so I'm very confident that town just wins this at this point, if you're town you can rest easily knowing I'll find you. If you're wolf, sorry for your loss
December 17th, 2022, 10:41 AM
Stealth is pretty hard thread-spewed wolf at this point.
Early in the game no one wanted to put pressure on Stealth
Now that Stealth looks like the chop everyone wants to be on the record as having scumread him.
Stealth is pretty hard thread-spewed wolf at this point.
Early in the game no one wanted to put pressure on Stealth
Now that Stealth looks like the chop everyone wants to be on the record as having scumread him.
December 17th, 2022, 10:39 AM
[vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]
-vote Stealthbomber16
December 16th, 2022, 10:40 PM
Some fun facts about that game:
The game was 12,114 posts
in 16 days
757 posts per day
but really it was
taking out night phases
Days 1-3 were full 48 hours
Day 4 was 30 hours
Day 5 was 48 hours
Day 6 was 4 hours
12,114 posts in 226 hours
nearly a new post per minute
continuously
for 226 hours
Some fun facts about that game:
The game was 12,114 posts
in 16 days
757 posts per day
but really it was
taking out night phases
Days 1-3 were full 48 hours
Day 4 was 30 hours
Day 5 was 48 hours
Day 6 was 4 hours
12,114 posts in 226 hours
nearly a new post per minute
continuously
for 226 hours
December 16th, 2022, 10:34 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973176]OR you were finding reasons for others to scum read me... all your earlier lengthy posts were about how the first lynch would be about the most polarized players here, Oliver, Me, Trout. Then further cemented that idea with reasons why I am scum, why I am the player in your analysis in pairings.
I am not scum reading you simply because you scum read me.[/QUOTE]
Let me tell you a story:
I recently played a game with a stacked playerlist.
One player in that game is known for having exceptionally good reads.
His name is Mac. Every time Mac would make a scumread the person he scumread freaked out at him and scumread him back. They used reasons like "I don't think town Mac would be so wrong about me"
Mac was town. But other players kept scumreading him simply for being wrong about them that he ended up getting tinfoil pushed on day 1.
I was a wolf in that game, and it was quite nice to see town taking care of one of the most dangerous players in the list for us!
Getting reads in mafia is a process. No one starts with perfect reads, and even refined reads are still going to be wrong quite often. It's the nature of the game. As town part of your responsibilities is to work with other town to find each other.
So if you're town here, tell me, what are all the reasons you think I should be townreading you?
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
OR you were finding reasons for others to scum read me... all your earlier lengthy posts were about how the first lynch would be about the most polarized players here, Oliver, Me, Trout. Then further cemented that idea with reasons why I am scum, why I am the player in your analysis in pairings.
I am not scum reading you simply because you scum read me.
Let me tell you a story:
I recently played a game with a stacked playerlist.
One player in that game is known for having exceptionally good reads.
His name is Mac. Every time Mac would make a scumread the person he scumread freaked out at him and scumread him back. They used reasons like "I don't think town Mac would be so wrong about me"
Mac was town. But other players kept scumreading him simply for being wrong about them that he ended up getting tinfoil pushed on day 1.
I was a wolf in that game, and it was quite nice to see town taking care of one of the most dangerous players in the list for us!
Getting reads in mafia is a process. No one starts with perfect reads, and even refined reads are still going to be wrong quite often. It's the nature of the game. As town part of your responsibilities is to work with other town to find each other.
So if you're town here, tell me, what are all the reasons you think I should be townreading you?
December 16th, 2022, 09:35 PM
I'm kind of torn on Ikarus vs Trout though
They both have townie moments
Ikarus has had wolfy moments though, but also Trout's general playstyle is less polarizing so it puts him at less risk to have wolfy moments at all.
So not really confident there at all.
Ironic, considering going in I thought they would be the most polarized lol
I'm kind of torn on Ikarus vs Trout though
They both have townie moments
Ikarus has had wolfy moments though, but also Trout's general playstyle is less polarizing so it puts him at less risk to have wolfy moments at all.
So not really confident there at all.
Ironic, considering going in I thought they would be the most polarized lol
December 16th, 2022, 09:34 PM
[QUOTE=FM-Mabel Pines;973166][vote]Trout[/vote][/QUOTE]
If the team is Stealth + Ikarus, you could have won here :p
Originally Posted by
FM-Mabel Pines
If the team is Stealth + Ikarus, you could have won here
December 16th, 2022, 09:34 PM
[vote]unvote[/vote]
-vote unvote
December 16th, 2022, 09:33 PM
[vote]Trout[/vote]
-vote Trout
December 16th, 2022, 09:32 PM
gosh, I just don't see a world where stealth isn't just a wolf lol
gosh, I just don't see a world where stealth isn't just a wolf lol
December 16th, 2022, 09:26 PM
My take on you is that - your reasons for scumreading me are super flimsy and ignore the majority of my posts this game and are just hyperfocused on an opening reason you had to scumread me which isn't even applicable anymore because oliver flipped town.
I think it shows a lack of development in your reads and I think you don't actually know any good reasons to be scumreading me here?
It raises red flags.
My take on you is that - your reasons for scumreading me are super flimsy and ignore the majority of my posts this game and are just hyperfocused on an opening reason you had to scumread me which isn't even applicable anymore because oliver flipped town.
I think it shows a lack of development in your reads and I think you don't actually know any good reasons to be scumreading me here?
It raises red flags.
December 16th, 2022, 09:22 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973159]Because I started suspecting you the moment you didnt answer Varcron about CC, which made me think you were potentially buying time to come up with a reason if It was a legit claim, because it would've been a bad CC and once I pointed that out you said it was a joke.
Also I didnt like that you town read Oliver based on three word posts he made and this was before anything serious had been said
At that point I was only suspecting you COUlD be scum.
But then you declared me as scumlist because I voiced my opinions on the day this far, and because I put you specifically in light.
Also I had been pretty open about my thought process and I thought I had been pretty open to be townread.
Because of this, I believed you were trying to put me on the spot to be scumread instead of leaving others townread me, by finding reasons to scum read me.
If you were town, I dont think you wouldve done that.[/QUOTE]
The last time the game was run everyone in the game claimed sheriff on the first page - Varcron was in that game too, me claiming sheriff on page 1 there was a reference to that game which (sadly) Varcron didn't pick up on.
I was right about oliver - so now why do you not like it? What was my agenda with townreading oliver there? Clearing a town that would otherwise be an easy elimination?
The other reasons you said are just OMGUS - scumreading me because I scumread you.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
Because I started suspecting you the moment you didnt answer Varcron about CC, which made me think you were potentially buying time to come up with a reason if It was a legit claim, because it would've been a bad CC and once I pointed that out you said it was a joke.
Also I didnt like that you town read Oliver based on three word posts he made and this was before anything serious had been said
At that point I was only suspecting you COUlD be scum.
But then you declared me as scumlist because I voiced my opinions on the day this far, and because I put you specifically in light.
Also I had been pretty open about my thought process and I thought I had been pretty open to be townread.
Because of this, I believed you were trying to put me on the spot to be scumread instead of leaving others townread me, by finding reasons to scum read me.
If you were town, I dont think you wouldve done that.
The last time the game was run everyone in the game claimed sheriff on the first page - Varcron was in that game too, me claiming sheriff on page 1 there was a reference to that game which (sadly) Varcron didn't pick up on.
I was right about oliver - so now why do you not like it? What was my agenda with townreading oliver there? Clearing a town that would otherwise be an easy elimination?
The other reasons you said are just OMGUS - scumreading me because I scumread you.
December 16th, 2022, 09:11 PM
Follow-up:
Where did you hear the term "too townie to be town" from?
Follow-up:
Where did you hear the term "too townie to be town" from?
December 16th, 2022, 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973155]Yes please do[/QUOTE]
Why do you scumread me?
You have 5 minutes to answer this. Type as much as you can in those 5 minutes and then once those 5 minutes are up, hit post.
I don't care if you don't finish in time, I want the response after 5 minutes.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
Yes please do
Why do you scumread me?
You have 5 minutes to answer this. Type as much as you can in those 5 minutes and then once those 5 minutes are up, hit post.
I don't care if you don't finish in time, I want the response after 5 minutes.
December 16th, 2022, 08:56 PM
[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;973150]Because imagine if it were true[/QUOTE]
I think we're probably the most obvious antipairing of the game at this point after I campaigned to murderize you.
Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
Because imagine if it were true
I think we're probably the most obvious antipairing of the game at this point after I campaigned to murderize you.
December 16th, 2022, 08:52 PM
[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;973147]Fucking based.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think that?
Originally Posted by
Stealthbomber16
Fucking based.
Why do you think that?
December 16th, 2022, 08:50 PM
[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]
I have a time sensitive question for you. Are you here to answer it?
@ikarusdk
I have a time sensitive question for you. Are you here to answer it?
December 16th, 2022, 08:01 PM
[MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION]
Unvote for now?
[vote]unvote[/vote]
@Stealthbomber16
Unvote for now?
-vote unvote
December 16th, 2022, 08:01 PM
ikarus just not saying anything is starting to make me paranoid about the team actually being ikarus + Trout and ikarus is just waiting for Trout to wake up lol
ikarus just not saying anything is starting to make me paranoid about the team actually being ikarus + Trout and ikarus is just waiting for Trout to wake up lol
December 16th, 2022, 07:13 PM
I am pretty sure Trout is asleep right now - based on the time he said he's going to bed he's probably somewhere in Europe and so he won't be awake for a few hours now.
If you think that the team could be Trout / Ikarus then please let me know.
If you are town and you think it could be Trout / Ikarus then it's your duty to mention that now, and if you don't then you can't blame me for voting you here after the game lol
I am pretty sure Trout is asleep right now - based on the time he said he's going to bed he's probably somewhere in Europe and so he won't be awake for a few hours now.
If you think that the team could be Trout / Ikarus then please let me know.
If you are town and you think it could be Trout / Ikarus then it's your duty to mention that now, and if you don't then you can't blame me for voting you here after the game lol
December 16th, 2022, 05:23 PM
If I'm wrong here:
Sorry Varcron - you were right on Stealth being town. lol~me
And Stealth - well you should have put more time into this game!!! lol. Hopefully you can agree with me though that Trout + Ikarus had great wolf games here and so if they're the wolf team I wouldn't even be upset losing to that.
If I'm wrong here:
Sorry Varcron - you were right on Stealth being town. lol~me
And Stealth - well you should have put more time into this game!!! lol. Hopefully you can agree with me though that Trout + Ikarus had great wolf games here and so if they're the wolf team I wouldn't even be upset losing to that.
December 16th, 2022, 05:18 PM
[vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]
I think I'd wager the game on this - not unvoting.
[MENTION=46366]Trout[/MENTION]
[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]
If you two are the mafia team, feel free to hammer this.
-vote Stealthbomber16
I think I'd wager the game on this - not unvoting.
@Trout
@ikarusdk
If you two are the mafia team, feel free to hammer this.
December 16th, 2022, 05:15 PM
[QUOTE=Varcron;973117]Imo the pairing is probably Stealth+Trout
Ikar I think is town based off of how he's been acting and I think Mabel has been solving and asking good questions/pointing out useful info constantly.[/QUOTE]
Please vote stealth first then
I think stealth almost always flips wolf here whereas Trout sometimes flips town.
Originally Posted by
Varcron
Imo the pairing is probably Stealth+Trout
Ikar I think is town based off of how he's been acting and I think Mabel has been solving and asking good questions/pointing out useful info constantly.
Please vote stealth first then
I think stealth almost always flips wolf here whereas Trout sometimes flips town.
December 15th, 2022, 06:46 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973106]But I dont know if I can trust you right now because you've been scum reading me all game, which makes me doubt your judgement (with all due respect) because you are obviously wrong about me if you were town. So I need to take what you said with a grain if salt and go with my instinct when I have more time and on pc because using my phone in an outdoor setting is a little difficult[/QUOTE]
A common mistake in FM is assuming that because someone is wrong about one thing, it means they're wrong about everything.
Or assuming that because they were right about one thing, they're right about everything.
In general players will have a baseline rate at which they're accurate - but then within a given game, just because they've been wrong once or twice, it doesn't mean that all their reads are wrong - the rest of their reads are going to just be at roughly their baseline accuracy rate.
I think you're a wolf with stealth - but I think the Stealth/Trout team is also entirely possible, which is why I wanted to chop Stealth yesterday, because Stealth was always a wolf, but as for his +1 I was less confident.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
But I dont know if I can trust you right now because you've been scum reading me all game, which makes me doubt your judgement (with all due respect) because you are obviously wrong about me if you were town. So I need to take what you said with a grain if salt and go with my instinct when I have more time and on pc because using my phone in an outdoor setting is a little difficult
A common mistake in FM is assuming that because someone is wrong about one thing, it means they're wrong about everything.
Or assuming that because they were right about one thing, they're right about everything.
In general players will have a baseline rate at which they're accurate - but then within a given game, just because they've been wrong once or twice, it doesn't mean that all their reads are wrong - the rest of their reads are going to just be at roughly their baseline accuracy rate.
I think you're a wolf with stealth - but I think the Stealth/Trout team is also entirely possible, which is why I wanted to chop Stealth yesterday, because Stealth was always a wolf, but as for his +1 I was less confident.
December 15th, 2022, 06:44 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973105]As I explained before, I wanted you to be lynched because I scum read you. SB was going to be next if we mislynch you, with trout being his teammate. But since Oli was mislynched, j am back to where I started.
I mean by what you said in above post, we should be lynching SB and Trout but I would like some more time to contemplate your posts and others before I can come to a conclusion because i cannot be wrong today[/QUOTE]
Why do you scumread me?
And thinking about this scenario from the perspective of who you scumread the most today isn't the right way to go about it. Wolves are working adversarially - they're trying to look townie. And as you said, you don't think there's much to read individual players off of. I disagree but the thing that [I]is[/I] much easier to read than just individual players is pairings.
There are three teams - all you have to do is rule out one pairing as a not possible wolf team and then you've got yourself someone who is always a wolf from your POV.
The thing with ruling out individual pairings is that it's much easier to actually be accurate with it. Wolves are constantly working to look townie, but they're [I]not[/I] constantly working to look like they can be potentially paired with every player - there will naturally be antipairings that emerge and being able to identify those is one of the keys to winning lylo scenarios.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
As I explained before, I wanted you to be lynched because I scum read you. SB was going to be next if we mislynch you, with trout being his teammate. But since Oli was mislynched, j am back to where I started.
I mean by what you said in above post, we should be lynching SB and Trout but I would like some more time to contemplate your posts and others before I can come to a conclusion because i cannot be wrong today
Why do you scumread me?
And thinking about this scenario from the perspective of who you scumread the most today isn't the right way to go about it. Wolves are working adversarially - they're trying to look townie. And as you said, you don't think there's much to read individual players off of. I disagree but the thing that is much easier to read than just individual players is pairings.
There are three teams - all you have to do is rule out one pairing as a not possible wolf team and then you've got yourself someone who is always a wolf from your POV.
The thing with ruling out individual pairings is that it's much easier to actually be accurate with it. Wolves are constantly working to look townie, but they're not constantly working to look like they can be potentially paired with every player - there will naturally be antipairings that emerge and being able to identify those is one of the keys to winning lylo scenarios.
December 15th, 2022, 06:32 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973100]I just hope that I will have more things to read and work on today.[/QUOTE]
More things to read?
I literally made like a dozen long posts to wall posts earlier about the content we've already seen - there's plenty of alignment indicative stuff to read right now.
Right now, no stalling, what are your thoughts on the game?
What are your reads - there's only three possible teams from your POV, right?
So which one do you think is the least likely?
Which one do you think is the most likely?
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
I just hope that I will have more things to read and work on today.
More things to read?
I literally made like a dozen long posts to wall posts earlier about the content we've already seen - there's plenty of alignment indicative stuff to read right now.
Right now, no stalling, what are your thoughts on the game?
What are your reads - there's only three possible teams from your POV, right?
So which one do you think is the least likely?
Which one do you think is the most likely?
December 15th, 2022, 06:30 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973099]I have some pairs in mind, but I've left home right now after the result but will be back in a few hours. As today progresses, things will hopefully become clearer to me.
But it will all come down to
Mabel SB
Mable Trout
SB Trout[/QUOTE]
???
We've just played an entire day of FM - you were already townreading oliver - there shouldn't be a huge re-evaluation for you here, there's no new insights shaking up your world view, why are your reads still so hands off?
You just listed every possible team that doesn't include you, you basically said nothing.
We're on day 2 and you're basically hard claiming to have no reads here.
This is suuuuuuuuuuper different from the town ikarus I shadow hydra'd with last time.
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
I have some pairs in mind, but I've left home right now after the result but will be back in a few hours. As today progresses, things will hopefully become clearer to me.
But it will all come down to
Mabel SB
Mable Trout
SB Trout
???
We've just played an entire day of FM - you were already townreading oliver - there shouldn't be a huge re-evaluation for you here, there's no new insights shaking up your world view, why are your reads still so hands off?
You just listed every possible team that doesn't include you, you basically said nothing.
We're on day 2 and you're basically hard claiming to have no reads here.
This is suuuuuuuuuuper different from the town ikarus I shadow hydra'd with last time.
December 15th, 2022, 06:25 PM
I'm mad.
Literally get the right reads and then people just don't play the game, at [I]least[/I] half the town players just didn't show up for EoD - like oliver just signs for shit min posts at the start of the day and then goes AWOL - what the fuck?
And where Varc never even voted. This is seriously tilting.
I'm mad.
Literally get the right reads and then people just don't play the game, at least half the town players just didn't show up for EoD - like oliver just signs for shit min posts at the start of the day and then goes AWOL - what the fuck?
And where Varc never even voted. This is seriously tilting.
December 15th, 2022, 06:12 PM
[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973094]Yeah but with much higher risk. SB dying there and flipping town would've reduced scumlist down to Trout/Mabel to me since I was progressively believing Oliver was town. But with Oli dying, the stakes are much higher.[/QUOTE]
What do you think the scum team is right now?
Originally Posted by
ikarusdk
Yeah but with much higher risk. SB dying there and flipping town would've reduced scumlist down to Trout/Mabel to me since I was progressively believing Oliver was town. But with Oli dying, the stakes are much higher.
What do you think the scum team is right now?
December 15th, 2022, 06:12 PM
I think stealth is like - pretty much always a wolf here?
I think stealth is like - pretty much always a wolf here?