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[VOTE]FM-Last Hope[/vote]

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Welp,
N0 cop check from Gravity on Atlantic
Last Hope claims investigative
Wilder claims protective
I had a n0 action
Silent night had a n0 telephone action and weird voting mechanics

Welp,
N0 cop check from Gravity on Atlantic
Last Hope claims investigative
Wilder claims protective
I had a n0 action
Silent night had a n0 telephone action and weird voting mechanics

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953478]The way I see it we could CFD to Toon or Gravity or follow through on Wilder, Bisected or Matrix[/QUOTE]

Hi, what's CFD?

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

The way I see it we could CFD to Toon or Gravity or follow through on Wilder, Bisected or Matrix

Hi, what's CFD?

[MENTION=11411]Lag[/MENTION] if trains are tied does a random lynch occur?

@Lag if trains are tied does a random lynch occur?

[B]FM-Looney Toons (2 [L-4]):[/B]
FM-Once Upon a Town, FM-Matrix6
[B]FM-Bisected Souls (2 [L-4]):[/B]
FM-All Stars, FM-Last Hope
[B]FM-Last Hope (2 [L-4]):[/B]
FM-Gravity Falls, FM-Mid-Atlantic
[B]FM-All Stars (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Wilder Wastelander
[B]FM-Matrix6 (2 [L-4]):[/B]
FM-Bisected Souls, FM-Looney Toons
[B]FM-Wilder Wastelander (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Silent Night
[B]FM-Silent Night (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Politico


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FM-Looney Toons (2 [L-4]):
FM-Once Upon a Town, FM-Matrix6
FM-Bisected Souls (2 [L-4]):
FM-All Stars, FM-Last Hope
FM-Last Hope (2 [L-4]):
FM-Gravity Falls, FM-Mid-Atlantic
FM-All Stars (1 [L-5]):
FM-Wilder Wastelander
FM-Matrix6 (2 [L-4]):
FM-Bisected Souls, FM-Looney Toons
FM-Wilder Wastelander (1 [L-5]):
FM-Silent Night
FM-Silent Night (1 [L-5]):
FM-Politico

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;953470]Wow okay man
Are you trying to impersonate Wastelander's caricatural member of "this community" ?[/QUOTE]

No, I view Matrix differently than Bisected because I think I know exactly what Matrix is.
Matrix's brand of silliness has been fairly consistent as opposed to bisected.

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

Wow okay man
Are you trying to impersonate Wastelander's caricatural member of "this community" ?

No, I view Matrix differently than Bisected because I think I know exactly what Matrix is.
Matrix's brand of silliness has been fairly consistent as opposed to bisected.

[QUOTE=FM-Last Hope;953462]Oh you mean how All Stars has Matrix as town, yet Bisected as scum for similar/same reasons?
If Bisected flips town, then I'd want to take a hard look at All Stars.[/QUOTE]

There IS a reason trust me bro

Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope

Oh you mean how All Stars has Matrix as town, yet Bisected as scum for similar/same reasons?
If Bisected flips town, then I'd want to take a hard look at All Stars.

There IS a reason trust me bro

Ugh.
Maybe I was wrong about Wilder, reasoning seems wack, but honest.

Moving over to my 2nd scumread
[vote]FM-Bisected Souls[/vote]

Ugh.
Maybe I was wrong about Wilder, reasoning seems wack, but honest.

Moving over to my 2nd scumread

-vote FM-Bisected Souls

by the way [SIZE=7]30 MINUTES TO END OF DAY[/SIZE]

by the way 30 MINUTES TO END OF DAY

[QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953444]None of the players I trust voted for the Matrix. But two suspicious did.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953451]I just answered about that above for Last Hope.[/QUOTE]

Okay, so if the people [B]you[/B] don't trust vote for another player you don't trust, what do you think that means for the alignment of everyone involved? Are they likely the same, or likely different?

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

None of the players I trust voted for the Matrix. But two suspicious did.

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

I just answered about that above for Last Hope.

Okay, so if the people you don't trust vote for another player you don't trust, what do you think that means for the alignment of everyone involved? Are they likely the same, or likely different?

[QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953449]Well, Bisected Souls. But only because I like his posts, and not because I suddenly began to trust him. Poor reasoning.[/QUOTE]

What do you think about Looney Toons' and Bisected Souls' train on Matrix?

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

Well, Bisected Souls. But only because I like his posts, and not because I suddenly began to trust him. Poor reasoning.

What do you think about Looney Toons' and Bisected Souls' train on Matrix?

[QUOTE=FM-All Stars;953446][SPOILER=spoilers are hard/Wilder's read list]

So, in a nutshell, you scum read Matrix, Last Hope, myself, Looney Toons, and Bisected Souls.
You town read: Once upon a Town, Mid-Atlantic, and Gravity Falls.
And you're unsure about: Politico and Silent Night.

We have 11 players total, the likelihood of there being 5 non-town is almost nil.
If you had to put some of your scum reads into town reads, who would it/they be?[/QUOTE]

Scum = Non-town, in case I wasn't clear.

Originally Posted by FM-All Stars

[SPOILER=spoilers are hard/Wilder's read list]

So, in a nutshell, you scum read Matrix, Last Hope, myself, Looney Toons, and Bisected Souls.
You town read: Once upon a Town, Mid-Atlantic, and Gravity Falls.
And you're unsure about: Politico and Silent Night.

We have 11 players total, the likelihood of there being 5 non-town is almost nil.
If you had to put some of your scum reads into town reads, who would it/they be?

Scum = Non-town, in case I wasn't clear.

[SPOILER=spoilers are hard/Wilder's read list][QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953413]I am back.

I took the time and read the ISO of each participant in this circus.

I will not be sprayed on the details, anyone can do the same on their own.

Only short conclusions.

[b]Silent Night[/b]
Entered the game with

His slippery relationship with All Stars can be traced throughout the game.
From my POV Silent Night looks like a player with a swollen to galactic size ego and a desire to control the course of the game, but at the same time incompetent and not smart enough to do so. He pretends to take the game seriously, but doesn't provide anything useful. Just clings to individual, sometimes taken out of context words and typos. He uses cheap psychological tricks to manipulate emotions, and immediately uses double standards if emotions lead others in the wrong (for him) direction.

My verdict: a weak neutral>town player who does not want to admit it, or a very good scum who has chosen a solid strategy. Only if there are such good players in this community who are able to play scum like this?

[b]Matrix6[/b]

Entered the game with fruit bullshit. Brought an enormous amount of verbal trash and spam into the game. It was a torment for me to read his posts. His impact to the game useful for the town is at zero level.

My verdict: Perhaps this is the only player who one hundred percent enjoys playing in this circus. Jester IRL confirmed, but in the game it can turn out to be both a scum and town player who is simply afraid to be taken seriously and lynched just in case, as is the custom in this community. More likely just some neutral.

[b]Last Hope[/b]
Entered the game with jokes and greetings and showed one of the first posts what "reasoning" is in this community:


From his side, I can see sluggish and unconvincing attempts to figure out who is town and who is scum, but not particularly productive and well-grounded. Repeatedly repeated that the Matrix is town in his opinion, even when no one asked him about it. This looks a little suspicious.

My verdict: If he is scum, his teammate is probably Matrix. Can that be so easy in this community? I don't know.

[b]All Stars[/b]
Entered the game with meaningless wallpost with some song lyrics. His whole "playstyle" is aggressive and unreasonable attacks on everyone saying that it's town-indicative (O RLY?). As soon as I pointed out this, he declared me a scum and, foaming at his mouth, continues to repeat that I should be lynched. He does not bring any benefit to the city, behaves like a typical Exe. Playing for mafia/cult/neut evil, I often use this tactic, and it almost always works: if you repeat 1000 times that Username is scum, they begin to believe in it. Also a cheap psychological trick.

My verdict: Scum or exe himself.

[b]Looney Toons[/b]

His ISO is surprisingly short. Entered the game with just "Hello, how is everyone!". Pushing Matrix (well, reasonable), but practically does not participate in the game.

My verdict: Lurking scum? Or just a player who is very busy IRL to play? Why you signed up then?

[b]Gravity Falls[/b]

Entered the game with "Sup" and took the position of a laconic observer. Sometimes agressive, but his aggression is backed by reasons (the rest should learn):


He provides not so much, but town benefit from him is obvious for me. I agree with most of his conclusions. Also he claimed some n0 invest check, and I trust in that.

My verdict: Strong town, if he leads the town, we will have a chance to win. I am ok with following him in any situation for now.

[b]Mid-Atlantic[/b]
At first glance, he seemed to me to be a player of the style “somebody solve all the problems for me, and I’ll sleep for now”. After Gravity Falls' n0 check I reconsidered my considerations. This is a cautious player who may not follow the game very closely, but is trying to lead the city to victory.

My verdict: Lock town.

[b]Once Upon a Town[/b]
Entered the game with typical for this community "reasoning":


Well, just a joke. This guy is on the hunt for scums and tries to be consistent and rational. I cannot agree with all of his conclusions, but I feel the benefits for the city from his work. He thinks in his own way, which I cannot always understand, but there is definitely a rational kernel in his thoughts. He is attentive to the little things, and it pleases.

My verdict: Town.

[b]Bisected Souls[/b]
One more disturbing the peace player. I don't like the fact that he posts pictures and nonsense, but he still tries to hunt scums. It is difficult to disagree with some of his statements. He beautifully smashed Al Stars to atoms. I like it.

However, with some sympathy for this player, I still cannot be sure that he is town. Too many nonsence posted.

My verdict: I don't know. Can be scum or neut.

[b]Politico[/b]

This guy with a low game impact is shady for me. As I understood, the player was replaced by host. I need more time to watch at him.

My verdict: Null for now.

Well, it looks like my interest in this game is slowly returning...

Last word in case I'm lynched:

[spoiler]
Happy now, monkeys?
[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

So, in a nutshell, you scum read Matrix, Last Hope, myself, Looney Toons, and Bisected Souls.
You town read: Once upon a Town, Mid-Atlantic, and Gravity Falls.
And you're unsure about: Politico and Silent Night.

We have 11 players total, the likelihood of there being 5 non-town is almost nil.
If you had to put some of your scum reads into town reads, who would it/they be?

Spoiler : spoilers are hard/Wilder's read list :

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

I am back.

I took the time and read the ISO of each participant in this circus.

I will not be sprayed on the details, anyone can do the same on their own.

Only short conclusions.

Silent Night
Entered the game with

His slippery relationship with All Stars can be traced throughout the game.
From my POV Silent Night looks like a player with a swollen to galactic size ego and a desire to control the course of the game, but at the same time incompetent and not smart enough to do so. He pretends to take the game seriously, but doesn't provide anything useful. Just clings to individual, sometimes taken out of context words and typos. He uses cheap psychological tricks to manipulate emotions, and immediately uses double standards if emotions lead others in the wrong (for him) direction.

My verdict: a weak neutral>town player who does not want to admit it, or a very good scum who has chosen a solid strategy. Only if there are such good players in this community who are able to play scum like this?

Matrix6

Entered the game with fruit bullshit. Brought an enormous amount of verbal trash and spam into the game. It was a torment for me to read his posts. His impact to the game useful for the town is at zero level.

My verdict: Perhaps this is the only player who one hundred percent enjoys playing in this circus. Jester IRL confirmed, but in the game it can turn out to be both a scum and town player who is simply afraid to be taken seriously and lynched just in case, as is the custom in this community. More likely just some neutral.

Last Hope
Entered the game with jokes and greetings and showed one of the first posts what "reasoning" is in this community:


From his side, I can see sluggish and unconvincing attempts to figure out who is town and who is scum, but not particularly productive and well-grounded. Repeatedly repeated that the Matrix is town in his opinion, even when no one asked him about it. This looks a little suspicious.

My verdict: If he is scum, his teammate is probably Matrix. Can that be so easy in this community? I don't know.

All Stars
Entered the game with meaningless wallpost with some song lyrics. His whole "playstyle" is aggressive and unreasonable attacks on everyone saying that it's town-indicative (O RLY?). As soon as I pointed out this, he declared me a scum and, foaming at his mouth, continues to repeat that I should be lynched. He does not bring any benefit to the city, behaves like a typical Exe. Playing for mafia/cult/neut evil, I often use this tactic, and it almost always works: if you repeat 1000 times that Username is scum, they begin to believe in it. Also a cheap psychological trick.

My verdict: Scum or exe himself.

Looney Toons

His ISO is surprisingly short. Entered the game with just "Hello, how is everyone!". Pushing Matrix (well, reasonable), but practically does not participate in the game.

My verdict: Lurking scum? Or just a player who is very busy IRL to play? Why you signed up then?

Gravity Falls

Entered the game with "Sup" and took the position of a laconic observer. Sometimes agressive, but his aggression is backed by reasons (the rest should learn):


He provides not so much, but town benefit from him is obvious for me. I agree with most of his conclusions. Also he claimed some n0 invest check, and I trust in that.

My verdict: Strong town, if he leads the town, we will have a chance to win. I am ok with following him in any situation for now.

Mid-Atlantic
At first glance, he seemed to me to be a player of the style “somebody solve all the problems for me, and I’ll sleep for now”. After Gravity Falls' n0 check I reconsidered my considerations. This is a cautious player who may not follow the game very closely, but is trying to lead the city to victory.

My verdict: Lock town.

Once Upon a Town
Entered the game with typical for this community "reasoning":


Well, just a joke. This guy is on the hunt for scums and tries to be consistent and rational. I cannot agree with all of his conclusions, but I feel the benefits for the city from his work. He thinks in his own way, which I cannot always understand, but there is definitely a rational kernel in his thoughts. He is attentive to the little things, and it pleases.

My verdict: Town.

Bisected Souls
One more disturbing the peace player. I don't like the fact that he posts pictures and nonsense, but he still tries to hunt scums. It is difficult to disagree with some of his statements. He beautifully smashed Al Stars to atoms. I like it.

However, with some sympathy for this player, I still cannot be sure that he is town. Too many nonsence posted.

My verdict: I don't know. Can be scum or neut.

Politico

This guy with a low game impact is shady for me. As I understood, the player was replaced by host. I need more time to watch at him.

My verdict: Null for now.

Well, it looks like my interest in this game is slowly returning...

Last word in case I'm lynched:

[spoiler]
Happy now, monkeys?

So, in a nutshell, you scum read Matrix, Last Hope, myself, Looney Toons, and Bisected Souls.
You town read: Once upon a Town, Mid-Atlantic, and Gravity Falls.
And you're unsure about: Politico and Silent Night.

We have 11 players total, the likelihood of there being 5 non-town is almost nil.
If you had to put some of your scum reads into town reads, who would it/they be?

[QUOTE=FM-Matrix6;953438]excuse me? the lord gave it and i took it there must be a good reason for it and no one should assume its nonsense. you never know how those wonderful fruits can interact with other players and their roles

is it helping the town? i dont know yet[/QUOTE]

Hi Matrix, who do you read as scum and why?
Who are your town reads?

Originally Posted by FM-Matrix6

excuse me? the lord gave it and i took it there must be a good reason for it and no one should assume its nonsense. you never know how those wonderful fruits can interact with other players and their roles

is it helping the town? i dont know yet

Hi Matrix, who do you read as scum and why?
Who are your town reads?

So I just did Last Hope's ISO, and they seem to have the exact same reads as me.
Am I being pocketed?

So I just did Last Hope's ISO, and they seem to have the exact same reads as me.
Am I being pocketed?

I'm going to reread Last Hope, see if I get anything out of it.

I'm going to reread Last Hope, see if I get anything out of it.

We CAN'T end day this fragmented, a good amount of people scum read matrix, fine, whatever, vote that slot then. I don't like that train, let it be known, but as long as we can decide between TWO people to lynch that would be lovely.

We CAN'T end day this fragmented, a good amount of people scum read matrix, fine, whatever, vote that slot then. I don't like that train, let it be known, but as long as we can decide between TWO people to lynch that would be lovely.

[QUOTE=FM-All Stars;953418]So, your two town reads are silent and matrix.
And you scum read matrix[/QUOTE]

Oops I meant Silent and upon upon a town

Originally Posted by FM-All Stars

So, your two town reads are silent and matrix.
And you scum read matrix

Oops I meant Silent and upon upon a town

I'm starting to like Wilders clown town theory LUL

I'm starting to like Wilders clown town theory

[QUOTE=FM-Bisected Souls;953417][B][I][U][SIZE=7][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Welcome, players, to my reads list![/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/I][/B]
[SPOILER=READ_ME]
to be trusted
[COLOR="#008000"]Verdict[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Verdict [/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Verdict[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]Verdict [/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Verdict [/COLOR]
to be lynched
[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=1]
Player 1- Silent Night
CLAIMS: [url]https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Points%20Sacrificer[/url]
with additional Modifier: for each vote on EOD, he gets a token.
Price of a Vest for the N1 - 3 token.
Prices and shop offers are subject to change.
Also had a n0 phone which creates chats when
a)its given from the owner to another player or when
b) the owning player was killed. then the phone goes to the killer.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]VERDICT[/COLOR]
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
all those claimes werent needed, but Silent still said them. Silent tried to make other towns announce their information aswell.
Scum wouldnt do that.
Still, i feel the inner Wish to OMGUS him :rolleyes:
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=2]
Player 2 - Matrix (get mad at the missing SEX)

Tried to steal Fruit Vendor Abilities from Lags OP. Probably worked.
spammed. Succesfully managed to get FRUIT Names out of other players, mainly All Night.
Preffered Role Complexity 7, got one of the 3 roles he wished, but in a semi-good match.
Lied about naming a Fruit 3 times being deadly, trying to get "information" out of Silent.
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]VERDICT[/COLOR]
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952620#post952620[/url]
The "Information Fish" on Silent is pretty weak executed in retrospect. This and the [I]persistent[/I] joking of Matrix make him look bad. I mean, even i managed to write this!
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=3]
Player 3 - Last Hope
Behaves evading. Did not claim anything yet besides Role Complexity preferred = 3
Changes almost all of his Reads and Beliefs when there is another Train currently building up steam, or Pressure by others is created.
Has parallel interaction with All Stars. Gives away town points very freely.
Not teamed with Matrix, due to the "typo story"
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]VERDICT
[/COLOR][SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952687#post952687[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952680#post952680[/url]
he didnt mention 4 people that DID show up to the thread in his Read list.
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952735#post952735[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952708#post952708[/url]
The argument-escaping might come from a polite and chill play-style, which i see Last Hope being master of. Still, arguments and different opinions are NEEDED!
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=4]
Player 4 - All Stars
was searching for Information by other players actively.
CLAIMS
preferred role complexity = 8
Roles submitted dont fit real Role due to submitted Roles being to easy, while the complexity was high.
role has: "bells and whistles" but isnt an "entirely useful package"
see the entirely? this means his role has multiple abilities, some being good for him, som being not needed.
States the Obvious but needed things.
Tries to solve OR tries to appear solvy, probably first though.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]VERDICT[/COLOR]
my gut doesnt like him
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952599#post952599[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952617#post952617[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952622#post952622[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952623#post952623[/url]
and a lot else...
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=5]
Player 5 - Wilder Wastelander
ahh, our old known, rough little friend!
Hes a [B]T[/B]OWN[B] P[/B]OWER [B]R[/B]OLE, probably a [B]BODYGUARD[/B]. i think you heard the rumor aswell.
Had some "obv" ticks, especially in the start of the game. kinda reminds me of myself.
had a looooooooooooong discussion, with others, i think you know it already, you read it.
had some good points before he started getting pushed.
my GUT is saying me a lot.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]VERDICT[/COLOR]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=6]
Player 6 - Looney Toons
has like, 25 messages?
asked a lot of questions, usual scum behavior.
preferred role complexity = 5, and it fits the role he got.
had some strange sayings, but liked the recent push on matrix
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]VERDICT[/COLOR]
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952654#post952654[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952570#post952570[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952765#post952765[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=952766#post952766[/url]
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=7]
Player 7 - Gravity Falls
low activity, same as looney
claims a n0 green check on Atlantic.
seriously, lets postpone this and atlantics slot. im braindead.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]VERDICT[/COLOR]
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=8]
Player 8 - Mid Atlantic
my brain is dead
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]verdict[/COLOR]
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=9]
Player 9 - Once Upon a Town in the West
i like him pushing matrix
[COLOR="#00FF00"]veridczt
[/COLOR][SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]



[SPOILER=11]
Player 11- Politico II
was non existent in thread
[SPOILER=EVIDENCE]
[/SPOILER]
[/SPOILER]

[SPOILER=READ ME]
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"][B][I][SIZE=6]READ THIS BEFORE REPLYING[/I][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5]READ EVERY SPOILER.
RE-ASK IF SOMETHING IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE
THIS IS NOT MY COMPLETE THOUGTH PROCESS, BUT JUST THE MOST RECENT SNIPPET
FULL COMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY NOT PROMISED[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[/SPOILER]
and yes, i did ran out of time :wondering:

sry guys this was rushed
[SIZE=1][SPOILER=Lag - Bastard Mod]lynch him.
[I]please.[/I][/SPOILER][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

So, your two town reads are silent and matrix.
And you scum read matrix

Originally Posted by FM-Bisected Souls

Welcome, players, to my reads list!

Spoiler : READ_ME :

to be trusted
Verdict
Verdict
Verdict
Verdict
Verdict
to be lynched

Spoiler : 1 :

Player 1- Silent Night
CLAIMS: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...s%20Sacrificer
with additional Modifier: for each vote on EOD, he gets a token.
Price of a Vest for the N1 - 3 token.
Prices and shop offers are subject to change.
Also had a n0 phone which creates chats when
a)its given from the owner to another player or when
b) the owning player was killed. then the phone goes to the killer.
VERDICT

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

all those claimes werent needed, but Silent still said them. Silent tried to make other towns announce their information aswell.
Scum wouldnt do that.
Still, i feel the inner Wish to OMGUS him

Spoiler : 2 :

Player 2 - Matrix (get mad at the missing SEX)

Tried to steal Fruit Vendor Abilities from Lags OP. Probably worked.
spammed. Succesfully managed to get FRUIT Names out of other players, mainly All Night.
Preffered Role Complexity 7, got one of the 3 roles he wished, but in a semi-good match.
Lied about naming a Fruit 3 times being deadly, trying to get "information" out of Silent.
VERDICT

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...620#post952620
The "Information Fish" on Silent is pretty weak executed in retrospect. This and the persistent joking of Matrix make him look bad. I mean, even i managed to write this!

Spoiler : 3 :

Player 3 - Last Hope
Behaves evading. Did not claim anything yet besides Role Complexity preferred = 3
Changes almost all of his Reads and Beliefs when there is another Train currently building up steam, or Pressure by others is created.
Has parallel interaction with All Stars. Gives away town points very freely.
Not teamed with Matrix, due to the "typo story"
VERDICT

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...687#post952687
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...680#post952680
he didnt mention 4 people that DID show up to the thread in his Read list.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...735#post952735
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...708#post952708
The argument-escaping might come from a polite and chill play-style, which i see Last Hope being master of. Still, arguments and different opinions are NEEDED!

Spoiler : 4 :

Player 4 - All Stars
was searching for Information by other players actively.
CLAIMS
preferred role complexity = 8
Roles submitted dont fit real Role due to submitted Roles being to easy, while the complexity was high.
role has: "bells and whistles" but isnt an "entirely useful package"
see the entirely? this means his role has multiple abilities, some being good for him, som being not needed.
States the Obvious but needed things.
Tries to solve OR tries to appear solvy, probably first though.
VERDICT
my gut doesnt like him

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...599#post952599
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...617#post952617
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...622#post952622
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...623#post952623
and a lot else...

Spoiler : 5 :

Player 5 - Wilder Wastelander
ahh, our old known, rough little friend!
Hes a TOWN POWER ROLE, probably a BODYGUARD. i think you heard the rumor aswell.
Had some "obv" ticks, especially in the start of the game. kinda reminds me of myself.
had a looooooooooooong discussion, with others, i think you know it already, you read it.
had some good points before he started getting pushed.
my GUT is saying me a lot.
VERDICT

Spoiler : 6 :

Player 6 - Looney Toons
has like, 25 messages?
asked a lot of questions, usual scum behavior.
preferred role complexity = 5, and it fits the role he got.
had some strange sayings, but liked the recent push on matrix
VERDICT

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...654#post952654
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...570#post952570
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...765#post952765
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...766#post952766

Spoiler : 7 :

Player 7 - Gravity Falls
low activity, same as looney
claims a n0 green check on Atlantic.
seriously, lets postpone this and atlantics slot. im braindead.
VERDICT

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

Spoiler : 8 :

Player 8 - Mid Atlantic
my brain is dead
verdict

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

Spoiler : 9 :

Player 9 - Once Upon a Town in the West
i like him pushing matrix
veridczt

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

Spoiler : 11 :

Player 11- Politico II
was non existent in thread

Spoiler : EVIDENCE :

Spoiler : READ ME :

READ THIS BEFORE REPLYING
READ EVERY SPOILER.
RE-ASK IF SOMETHING IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE
THIS IS NOT MY COMPLETE THOUGTH PROCESS, BUT JUST THE MOST RECENT SNIPPET
FULL COMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY NOT PROMISED

and yes, i did ran out of time

sry guys this was rushed

Spoiler : Lag - Bastard Mod :

lynch him.
please.

So, your two town reads are silent and matrix.
And you scum read matrix

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;953414]You've gotta be jester or something.
But in the offchance that this is your first FM game, picking a bastard anonymous setup was probably not the greatest of choices.[/QUOTE]

DON'T SAY THE J WORD

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

You've gotta be jester or something.
But in the offchance that this is your first FM game, picking a bastard anonymous setup was probably not the greatest of choices.

DON'T SAY THE J WORD

[QUOTE=FM-Looney Toons;953410]I've moved on from thinking Matrix is town. At best some kind of chaotic neut.

Wilder's reaction reads more like a deflated townie after rereview.

Gravity's claim is still pretty dumb from any perspective.[/QUOTE]

What about other players? Surely you have something to say about Once Upon a Town, or Silent Night, they've been active enough

Originally Posted by FM-Looney Toons

I've moved on from thinking Matrix is town. At best some kind of chaotic neut.

Wilder's reaction reads more like a deflated townie after rereview.

Gravity's claim is still pretty dumb from any perspective.

What about other players? Surely you have something to say about Once Upon a Town, or Silent Night, they've been active enough

[QUOTE=FM-Looney Toons;953407]I don't care for the wilder and bisected trains, so I'm staying put.[/QUOTE]

You haven't said much other than Lost Hope and Matrix are town, that Gravity's claim was weird, and that Wilder had "poor reaction"

What are you reads in general?

Originally Posted by FM-Looney Toons

I don't care for the wilder and bisected trains, so I'm staying put.

You haven't said much other than Lost Hope and Matrix are town, that Gravity's claim was weird, and that Wilder had "poor reaction"

What are you reads in general?

I should start using multiquote more often

I should start using multiquote more often

[QUOTE=FM-Gravity Falls;953376]Some people are confused so I will enlighten

-i do not have a bat
-i could not choose my n0
-i only had one check

Town core so far:

Me
Atlantic
Silent night
Once upon a town

Possibly town -
Bisected

Idk-
All stars
Politico
Matrix6

Sus-
Looney
Wilder
Lost hope[/QUOTE]

Weird, I got to choose my n0 action.

Originally Posted by FM-Gravity Falls

Some people are confused so I will enlighten

-i do not have a bat
-i could not choose my n0
-i only had one check

Town core so far:

Me
Atlantic
Silent night
Once upon a town

Possibly town -
Bisected

Idk-
All stars
Politico
Matrix6

Sus-
Looney
Wilder
Lost hope

Weird, I got to choose my n0 action.

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;953398]Here's a read list before shit gets crazy
[SPOILER=Reads list]1 FM-Silent Night
Helpful & seems genuine. Certainly not unfakeable, though.
Disliked the paragraph about me in the slot's early reads, tho. Kinda felt like gratuitous (aka pocketing) TR.
Town-leaning
2 FM-Matrix6
I dislike the slot because of what i suspect about the "typo" and because of the spammy tendancies. I think the "gambit" is NAI. Outside that i'd say this slot's contribution is on the low-side but, thinking back, not enough to be worth scum reading. Bummer. Null read.
3 FM-Last Hope
Only one to have claimed preferring "simple roles", with a 3 on the 1-10 scale. Gives town points a bit too easily IMO, or maybe voices his easy town points too much. Hasnt been nearly as helpful as i remembered him, seems to be avoiding doing serious solving (ignores gravity/atlatic because it's "self-resolving", fruitless debate with Wastelander and seemed satisfied nonetheless). Slight scum read.
4 FM-All Stars
Mostly asking questions and (re)stating things, not so much of actual solving. The attack on Wastelander may very well be opportunistic. But this :


Does feel townie. Still, scum could say that if they were confident Wastelander would get lynched anyway, which knowing what we know is far from impossible.
Another slot that TRs me for no reason :

5 FM-Wilder Wastelander
Weird point made about All Stars & Silent Night led the latters to lead a crusade against this slot. The aggressiveness and antagonization of this slot screams "neutral" so loud that i dont know what to think. I'd put this slot on the scummy side of Null.
6 FM-Looney Toons
Literally nothing to analize, after 40hs this is not okay. I have to scum read the slot.
7 FM-Gravity Falls
Successfully revealed a N0 cop check to force out of rvs, which is quite far away from the regular scum play, if in range. Doesnt seem tunnelled. I do think this slot's Town.
On the downside tho, this slot also TRs me for no reason :

8 FM-Mid-Atlantic
Hasn't done much, but hasn't done any harm at all. Town-leaning Null read for now, because of Gravity's check.
10 FM-Bisected Souls
Low effort troll/fluff poster. Has to post his read list or something. Scum read until then.
11 FM-Politico
Kinda feels like Silent Night with less participation. Town-leaning.[/SPOILER]

[SPOILER=TL;DR slots sorted by trust][COLOR="#00FF00"]Gravity
Politico
Silent Night
Atlantic[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Matrix / All Stars[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Wastelander
Last Hope
Souls
Toons[/COLOR][/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

I like you pointing out the weak town reads, exactly what I would do if I was consistently getting them

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

Here's a read list before shit gets crazy

Spoiler : Reads list :

1 FM-Silent Night
Helpful & seems genuine. Certainly not unfakeable, though.
Disliked the paragraph about me in the slot's early reads, tho. Kinda felt like gratuitous (aka pocketing) TR.
Town-leaning
2 FM-Matrix6
I dislike the slot because of what i suspect about the "typo" and because of the spammy tendancies. I think the "gambit" is NAI. Outside that i'd say this slot's contribution is on the low-side but, thinking back, not enough to be worth scum reading. Bummer. Null read.
3 FM-Last Hope
Only one to have claimed preferring "simple roles", with a 3 on the 1-10 scale. Gives town points a bit too easily IMO, or maybe voices his easy town points too much. Hasnt been nearly as helpful as i remembered him, seems to be avoiding doing serious solving (ignores gravity/atlatic because it's "self-resolving", fruitless debate with Wastelander and seemed satisfied nonetheless). Slight scum read.
4 FM-All Stars
Mostly asking questions and (re)stating things, not so much of actual solving. The attack on Wastelander may very well be opportunistic. But this :


Does feel townie. Still, scum could say that if they were confident Wastelander would get lynched anyway, which knowing what we know is far from impossible.
Another slot that TRs me for no reason :

5 FM-Wilder Wastelander
Weird point made about All Stars & Silent Night led the latters to lead a crusade against this slot. The aggressiveness and antagonization of this slot screams "neutral" so loud that i dont know what to think. I'd put this slot on the scummy side of Null.
6 FM-Looney Toons
Literally nothing to analize, after 40hs this is not okay. I have to scum read the slot.
7 FM-Gravity Falls
Successfully revealed a N0 cop check to force out of rvs, which is quite far away from the regular scum play, if in range. Doesnt seem tunnelled. I do think this slot's Town.
On the downside tho, this slot also TRs me for no reason :

8 FM-Mid-Atlantic
Hasn't done much, but hasn't done any harm at all. Town-leaning Null read for now, because of Gravity's check.
10 FM-Bisected Souls
Low effort troll/fluff poster. Has to post his read list or something. Scum read until then.
11 FM-Politico
Kinda feels like Silent Night with less participation. Town-leaning.

Spoiler : TL;DR slots sorted by trust :

Gravity
Politico
Silent Night
Atlantic
Matrix / All Stars
Wastelander
Last Hope
Souls
Toons

I like you pointing out the weak town reads, exactly what I would do if I was consistently getting them

[QUOTE=FM-Politico;953392][VOTE]FM-Silent Night[/VOTE]

since apparently last one didint count

THIS IS A MECH VOTE, I DO NOT SCUMREAD SILENT[/QUOTE]

Who do you scum read? In general who do you read?

Originally Posted by FM-Politico

-vote FM-Silent Night

since apparently last one didint count

THIS IS A MECH VOTE, I DO NOT SCUMREAD SILENT

Who do you scum read? In general who do you read?

Less than 2 hours to EoD

[B]FM-Bisected Souls (2 [L-4]):[/B]
FM-Once Upon a Town, FM-Last Hope
[B]FM-Wilder Wastelander (2 [L-4]):[/B]
FM-All Stars, FM-Silent Night
[B]FM-Last Hope (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Gravity Falls
[B]FM-Looney Toons (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Matrix6
[B]FM-All Stars (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Wilder Wastelander
[B]FM-Matrix6 (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Looney Toons
[B]FM-Silent Night (1 [L-5]):[/B]
FM-Politico

Let's consolidate these trains so we can get some wagonomics going baby

Less than 2 hours to EoD

FM-Bisected Souls (2 [L-4]):
FM-Once Upon a Town, FM-Last Hope
FM-Wilder Wastelander (2 [L-4]):
FM-All Stars, FM-Silent Night
FM-Last Hope (1 [L-5]):
FM-Gravity Falls
FM-Looney Toons (1 [L-5]):
FM-Matrix6
FM-All Stars (1 [L-5]):
FM-Wilder Wastelander
FM-Matrix6 (1 [L-5]):
FM-Looney Toons
FM-Silent Night (1 [L-5]):
FM-Politico

Let's consolidate these trains so we can get some wagonomics going baby

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;953400]Just noticed a typo... Dont worry [MENTION=46048]FM-Looney Toons[/MENTION] i meant analyze with a y ![/QUOTE]

LUL

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

Just noticed a typo... Dont worry @FM-Looney Toons i meant analyze with a y !

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;953390]Thinking back... Is this a scum slip ? lol[/QUOTE]

No I'm just a stickler for wording.

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

Thinking back... Is this a scum slip ? lol

No I'm just a stickler for wording.

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953342]Like.. I get Wilder being frustrated. But 99% of their defense has been "NO POINT HAS BEEN MADE AGAINST MEEEEEEEEE"

Is that even remotely true? Instead of addressing the issues of inconsistency in reasoning or dodging questions and not having reasoning for claimed reads they have just been screaming emotions at people about how nobody has made a valid point against them. And the thing is.. Its actually working. People are catering to their emotions and sympathizing with a bullshit narrative that nobody has made a valid case that they are scum.

Am I really the only person seeing this happen right now?[/QUOTE]

I've tried addressing Wilder many a times today, but I think people are starting to jump ship in favor of Bisected which, uh, didn't do it for me with their post wall about me and how I view them vs matrix

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

Like.. I get Wilder being frustrated. But 99% of their defense has been "NO POINT HAS BEEN MADE AGAINST MEEEEEEEEE"

Is that even remotely true? Instead of addressing the issues of inconsistency in reasoning or dodging questions and not having reasoning for claimed reads they have just been screaming emotions at people about how nobody has made a valid point against them. And the thing is.. Its actually working. People are catering to their emotions and sympathizing with a bullshit narrative that nobody has made a valid case that they are scum.

Am I really the only person seeing this happen right now?

I've tried addressing Wilder many a times today, but I think people are starting to jump ship in favor of Bisected which, uh, didn't do it for me with their post wall about me and how I view them vs matrix

[QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953314]To be honest, All Stars looks more like Exe to me at the moment.

His "readlist" is "lynch Wilder at all costs" and nothing more.

But pretending to be exe is my own favorite scum strategy.[/QUOTE]

I put you in the bottom of my reads list because I think you are scum.
It's a whole lot more than "lynch wilder at all costs." Apparently I hold the controversial opinion that matrix is likely town.

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

To be honest, All Stars looks more like Exe to me at the moment.

His "readlist" is "lynch Wilder at all costs" and nothing more.

But pretending to be exe is my own favorite scum strategy.

I put you in the bottom of my reads list because I think you are scum.
It's a whole lot more than "lynch wilder at all costs." Apparently I hold the controversial opinion that matrix is likely town.

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;953282]But that description feels very close to what matrix has been doing... Why is it scummy for one and "okay bored town" for the other ? Esp since there are people that you townread less than matrix, meaning you are quite confident about matrix being town for the same reason that bisected is scum ?
Both of them angered me with their fluffy spammy posts, ghost has had some seriously solvy moments but matrix's ideal spot is about as wacky as Wastelander's IMO.

I've gone on and on about Wilder, but as a refresher I think their claim is wack, their reasoning is wack, their reads list is totally wack, and their OMGUS vote is wack.[/QUOTE]

Idk i have towny vibes from the slot, but i have to agree it doesnt make sense... Something's off[/QUOTE]

Matrix has been pretty consistent with the behavior, as opposed to souls who will pop up, say something kind of relevant, and leave.

Catching up in thread right now

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

But that description feels very close to what matrix has been doing... Why is it scummy for one and "okay bored town" for the other ? Esp since there are people that you townread less than matrix, meaning you are quite confident about matrix being town for the same reason that bisected is scum ?
Both of them angered me with their fluffy spammy posts, ghost has had some seriously solvy moments but matrix's ideal spot is about as wacky as Wastelander's IMO.

I've gone on and on about Wilder, but as a refresher I think their claim is wack, their reasoning is wack, their reads list is totally wack, and their OMGUS vote is wack.

Idk i have towny vibes from the slot, but i have to agree it doesnt make sense... Something's off[/QUOTE]

Matrix has been pretty consistent with the behavior, as opposed to souls who will pop up, say something kind of relevant, and leave.

Catching up in thread right now

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953263]A bit hard to do given most people are not around. I have not been looking at consensus opinions but I think we are the only two who have given a full reads list.[/QUOTE]

Yeah if everyone could start making full read lists for EoD lynching that'd be great.

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

A bit hard to do given most people are not around. I have not been looking at consensus opinions but I think we are the only two who have given a full reads list.

Yeah if everyone could start making full read lists for EoD lynching that'd be great.

Ideally though the 2nd train would be someone that a majority of people scum read, (duh) so I'd hope that you'd help form a second train organically with the rest of town.

Ideally though the 2nd train would be someone that a majority of people scum read, (duh) so I'd hope that you'd help form a second train organically with the rest of town.

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953258]I only think what the gambit did is AI to the person doing it if it was intended. I kinda got the vibe they just did that. But between Loony and Bisected which one do you feel I should shift to and why? Or should I say fuck it and self vote while advocating to make myself some monies?[/QUOTE]

I'd recommend Bisected, I want them to get serious sooner rather than later, it'd help improve my read. I think a bit of pressure could do that slot some good. [I]But[/I] that would only matter if a train gets rolling on them. If we can't consolidate votes on Bisected then if I were you, I'd self vote.

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

I only think what the gambit did is AI to the person doing it if it was intended. I kinda got the vibe they just did that. But between Loony and Bisected which one do you feel I should shift to and why? Or should I say fuck it and self vote while advocating to make myself some monies?

I'd recommend Bisected, I want them to get serious sooner rather than later, it'd help improve my read. I think a bit of pressure could do that slot some good. But that would only matter if a train gets rolling on them. If we can't consolidate votes on Bisected then if I were you, I'd self vote.

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953256]I am not very set on any of the people in that group. But to help me triangulate what makes you feel Matrix is town? I absolutely question a motive for pulling that gambit outside of town but running off without explaining a thought process and voting Loony without reason hardly make me more comfortable.[/QUOTE]

It has to do with stealing the fruit vendor role, the general banter in the first half of D1, the light amount of troll, and I think the gambit helped to generate a bit of discussion in a lull in day activity. I expect the slot to do more D2.

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

I am not very set on any of the people in that group. But to help me triangulate what makes you feel Matrix is town? I absolutely question a motive for pulling that gambit outside of town but running off without explaining a thought process and voting Loony without reason hardly make me more comfortable.

It has to do with stealing the fruit vendor role, the general banter in the first half of D1, the light amount of troll, and I think the gambit helped to generate a bit of discussion in a lull in day activity. I expect the slot to do more D2.

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953253]I do want a 2nd train. 2 trains mean decisions made that can be used to generate information later.

Why Toons or Bisected over Matrix? I had concerns about Bisected that I partially resolved but Toons anger reaction to the gambit felt towny to me. Although I may have bias in that view given it was anger at someone threatening to kill me and I know my alignment.



(Saw you just posted a read wall but I will let this post anyways just because)[/QUOTE]

Matrix is a town read for me, simple as that. I'd rather have trains on slots that I read as scum or my null reads to gather information.

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

I do want a 2nd train. 2 trains mean decisions made that can be used to generate information later.

Why Toons or Bisected over Matrix? I had concerns about Bisected that I partially resolved but Toons anger reaction to the gambit felt towny to me. Although I may have bias in that view given it was anger at someone threatening to kill me and I know my alignment.



(Saw you just posted a read wall but I will let this post anyways just because)

Matrix is a town read for me, simple as that. I'd rather have trains on slots that I read as scum or my null reads to gather information.

[B][COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Last Hope[/COLOR] (1 [L-5]):[/B]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Once Upon a Town
[B][/COLOR][COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Wilder Wastelander[/COLOR] (3 [L-3]):[/B]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-All Stars[/COLOR], [COLOR="#00FFFF"]FM-Gravity Falls[/COLOR], [COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Last Hope[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="#FFFF00"]FM-Looney Toons[/COLOR] (1 [L-5]):[/B]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Matrix6[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-All Stars[/COLOR] (1 [L-5]):[/B]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Wilder Wastelander[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Matrix6[/COLOR] (2 [L-4]):[/B]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Silent Night[/COLOR], [COLOR="#FFFF00"]FM-Looney Toons[/COLOR]

We should consolidate trains soon.

FM-Last Hope (1 [L-5]):
FM-Once Upon a Town
FM-Wilder Wastelander (3 [L-3]):
FM-All Stars, FM-Gravity Falls, FM-Last Hope
FM-Looney Toons (1 [L-5]):
FM-Matrix6
FM-All Stars (1 [L-5]):
FM-Wilder Wastelander
FM-Matrix6 (2 [L-4]):
FM-Silent Night, FM-Looney Toons

We should consolidate trains soon.

[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Reads in order:[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Pro Town Box:
All Stars
Last Hope
Silent Night
Matrix6
Once Upon a Town[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FFFF"]Self Resolving Box:
Gravity Falls
Mid-Atlantic[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Null Box:
Politico
Looney Toons[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Scummy Box:
Bisected Souls
Wilder Wastelander[/COLOR]

I really like Last Hope and Silent Night, they're contributing to town discussion and are poking and prodding other players.
Matrix seems like bored town.
Once Upon a Town is my weakest town read at the moment, call it hunch that they're towny for now.
Gravity and Mid-Atlantic are mechanically linked, and knowing what one flips will likely solve the other.
No strong read on Politico at the moment.
I want to hear more from Looney Toons.
I don't like Bisected at the moment, I put them in the scummy box because all the joking around and voting host is really putting me off this late into D1, low substance per post ratio, don't see any scum hunting from this slot at all.
I've gone on and on about Wilder, but as a refresher I think their claim is wack, their reasoning is wack, their reads list is totally wack, and their OMGUS vote is wack.

Reads in order:
Pro Town Box:
All Stars
Last Hope
Silent Night
Matrix6
Once Upon a Town
Self Resolving Box:
Gravity Falls
Mid-Atlantic
Null Box:
Politico
Looney Toons
Scummy Box:
Bisected Souls
Wilder Wastelander

I really like Last Hope and Silent Night, they're contributing to town discussion and are poking and prodding other players.
Matrix seems like bored town.
Once Upon a Town is my weakest town read at the moment, call it hunch that they're towny for now.
Gravity and Mid-Atlantic are mechanically linked, and knowing what one flips will likely solve the other.
No strong read on Politico at the moment.
I want to hear more from Looney Toons.
I don't like Bisected at the moment, I put them in the scummy box because all the joking around and voting host is really putting me off this late into D1, low substance per post ratio, don't see any scum hunting from this slot at all.
I've gone on and on about Wilder, but as a refresher I think their claim is wack, their reasoning is wack, their reads list is totally wack, and their OMGUS vote is wack.

I don't think Matrix is the best second train to make.
I'd rather have it be bisected or toons [I]if[/I] we're going to decide between a second train and wilder.

I don't think Matrix is the best second train to make.
I'd rather have it be bisected or toons if we're going to decide between a second train and wilder.

NotLikeThis

NotLikeThis

There's no way there's this many posting restrictions on day 1

There's no way there's this many posting restrictions on day 1

[QUOTE=FM-Silent Night;953132]I really don't understand the ongoing fruit stuff. I do support peoples right to making love to a watermelon but I feel like I am missing something and I like to think that I don't miss much.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure Matrix gained fruit vendor abilities.

Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night

I really don't understand the ongoing fruit stuff. I do support peoples right to making love to a watermelon but I feel like I am missing something and I like to think that I don't miss much.

I'm pretty sure Matrix gained fruit vendor abilities.

[QUOTE=FM-Matrix6;953116]explain what is stupid and how i am scum with stars/mid

[SIZE=5]is it because of that chat i got going on?[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Huh?

Originally Posted by FM-Matrix6

explain what is stupid and how i am scum with stars/mid

is it because of that chat i got going on?

Huh?

Bah, whatever. I'm done arguing with Wilder for now, I'm not getting anywhere.
Y'all can formulate your own opinions on that slot.

Bah, whatever. I'm done arguing with Wilder for now, I'm not getting anywhere.
Y'all can formulate your own opinions on that slot.

[QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953103]Above I explained point by point why you are a scum.

As for you, you didn’t say anything sensible in the whole game.

You called my reads "piss poor" only because you are #1 scum in my list. 2nd one is Silent Night. Atlantic excluded.[/QUOTE]

And I refuted those points, point by point.

[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49555-S-FM-337-Play-at-Your-Own-Risk?p=953027&viewfull=1#post953027[/url]

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

Above I explained point by point why you are a scum.

As for you, you didn’t say anything sensible in the whole game.

You called my reads "piss poor" only because you are #1 scum in my list. 2nd one is Silent Night. Atlantic excluded.

And I refuted those points, point by point.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post953027

[QUOTE=FM-Wilder Wastelander;953094]No one gave any significant reason to suspect me.

"They think you're lying" is not the reason.

It's mafia.

It's all about lying.

Everybody lies.[/QUOTE]

Oh want me to say that I had a n0 cop check on you and it flipped red?
Because I didn't. I'm reading you based off your shite contributions and piss poor reads.

Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander

No one gave any significant reason to suspect me.

"They think you're lying" is not the reason.

It's mafia.

It's all about lying.

Everybody lies.

Oh want me to say that I had a n0 cop check on you and it flipped red?
Because I didn't. I'm reading you based off your shite contributions and piss poor reads.