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    Marshmallow Marshall (3 [L-2]): Mizery, Norwee, Loldebite
    Renegade (2 [L-3]): Marshmallow Marshall, OzyWho
    OzyWho (3 [L-2]): MartinGG99, Renegade, Frinckles
    This is my last post.
    I won't vote MM, so gl to you all.

    Legacy prediction: Renegade+loldebite, but unsure about loldebite.
    (loldebite, if you two are mates, that "hi" in #26 was just lol bite )

    Renegade never even bothered answering MM's question about where he saw this Frinckle scum meta. Nor question that loldebite posed him about trust and probably other's as well. If this guy lives as scum, yall should take a good look in the mirror.

    @Frinckles tnq for 184, I appreciate.


    gn
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    Martin, I wanted to leave this comment for after the game but I think it's fitting for the game now.
    I can see that when I asked you about something that you didn't write, you felt like I didn't understand you - kept reitterating what you said while commenting on how either I don't understand what you said or how we've different views. (Seems like a relatively common thing in FM tbh.)
    In the future, in similar situations with you - I'll do my best to first repeat what you said so that you can see you were not not understood and can answer to the questions given.
    However (and this comes from the heart, I assure you), I have an idea that I want to pitch to you and I hope you'll consider it:
    Whenever you'll be in a similar situation with someone (someone's asking you about things that you didn't say and you feel like you were not understood) who's not me, you can answer the question and then ask for them to tell if they understood the point of your post. Thereby making the interaction a mutual benefit instead of mutual loathing.

    Today, I'll go with the assumption that arrogance = town and not vote you most probably.
    But plz don't say "he's going out of his way to butt heads with mine" in the same breath you say "I didn't read any of the post before this quote"; especially when I went to such a length to analyze your interactions with loldebite and everything you said.


    loldebite, the action was self-pres due to the 2nd reason you stated: "would rather spend my precious posts reacting to other people's, because it was quite obvious that I'd be under the most cautious scrutiny."


    Frinckles, no. Calling me obtuse and pushing my slot are not one and the same.
    Don't call people obtuse dude. It's no different from stupid, dumb, retarded. They're all synonyms.


    Renegade, I won't vote Frinckles. He has been like this every game so far, and he has always been Town. I rather play the game than random lynch less active slots, ty.


    Wolf Team predictions everyone? Now's your chance to be the smartest
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    Loldebite now regrets not adding comments about Varcron's #97 comments about him.
    As Martin put it: "Why is that important?"
    Again, loldebite focus on self-preservation.
    I forgot to add loldebites "I figured I should say something about this because it feels like that's what sparked Varcron's suspicions about myself."
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    Martin Color
    Varcron Color
    My Comment



    1) If loldebite had been the first to post on d2, it would've been a one-liner.
    ("Well that fucking sucks.")
    Guess why I didn't make the first post ? I had nothing to say and would rather spend my precious posts reacting to other people's, because it was quite obvious that I'd be under the most cautious scrutiny.
    [COLOR="#FFA500"]Loldebite self-admittedly didn't make the first post before someone else to fall under the radar. Wolfy for focus on self-preservation.
    Loldebite now regrets not adding comments about Varcron's #97 comments about him.
    As Martin put it: "Why is that important?"
    Again, loldebite focus on self-preservation.



    2) Uses dead town's wording in regards to self. And even then, you rarely would ever do this if that person was still alive.
    ("Not very surprised tbh, which may explain my "fixation" as varcron put it.")
    I'd advise Martin to not force other's to infer his point.
    Might be able to infer to what he's getting that. Not going to.



    3) Despite having some level of self-consciousness (as shown in point 2), they completely missed Varcron saying they should be looked at if sb16 flipped town (p#97) and did not mention it at all. In fact, they responded to the very Varcron post which said that on d1.(p#99)
    Wtf do you want me to say about 3) I obviously don't agree with the reasoning according to which I'm the most wolfy of the SB trimvirat
    There's a lack of understanding from loldebite of what Martin was referring to (being #99).
    Martin's point here has to yet again be inferred manually by the reader if they want to understand to what he's getting at - which seems to be a common trait among Martin's posts sadly. (don't you enjoy inferring other people's points, and then infer from the inferred points what's the conclusion? )
    I believe Martin was snarkily(why??) implying that loldebite was pretending to be acting as if they weren't aware of what Varcron said in #97. We know, due to loldebites response to "1)" - that loldebite WAS aware of what Varcron said.
    What makes Martin think loldebite was acting as if they weren't aware of what Varcron said in #97? A misunderstanding about of Varcron's original WIFOM comment, see in next part.



    4) "it was a WIFOM kill" argument on slot that would highly suspect him in this situation.
    ("The kill is probably made for the WIFOM, but IIRC varcron was the most vocally doubtful of MM so I guess there's a world where that's why he's dead.")
    What ? Obviously it's a WIFOM kill, either I did it and killed the whoever accused me, or someone else did to make it look like the former. Is that not what is meant by "WIFOM kill" ? That's what I was referring to.
    Yes, WIFOM kill does make look loldebite suspect. Nobody here is denying it.
    Loldebite asked Martin what's the point and this is Martin's response:
    "As for the last part, fine. I guess people can call it a WIFOM kill and mean that, but personally I think WIFOM is a very broad term and can happen in various ways and so specification beyond the words of "WIFOM" is generally useful."
    So they both agree that point 4) was irrelevant.








    Point #4 being irrelevant is agreed upon.
    Point #3 being irrelevant comes from #4 being irrelvant.
    Point #2, no comment, I'm not a mindreader.
    Point #1, loldebite's responses indicate clear focus on self preservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Whaaat, you NEVER used autosave?? EVER??? That's like the bestest most amazingerest feature ever. You type half of a post, close your window, and it's (mostly) there when you come back (usually) if you click "Restore Auto-Saved Content", a little box that appears in the bottom left corner of the place you write in. I could not live without autosave lol.

    Frinckles would be my top townread if it weren't for the weird Stealth stuff. And now, Renegade is sort of implying he has meta evidence that my meta read on Frinckles is wrong, so I'm waiting on that as well. Also, "top 2 townread" is a pretty bad way to state this, to the point I'm not sure you're honest lol. I literally put "Noone's in the very towny light green category because noone is really that towny", making "top 2 townread" pretty meaningless.

    I do not understand this line lol.

    I'm not weird, I am SPECIAL!
    How do you enable it?
    I mean, you made a reads list, from top to bottom, greenest to reddest, "Town" icon to "Mafia" icon, and frinckles was your 2nd from the top. Idk how can there be ambiguity in such a list tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    If you want to be so obtuse, that can be applied to you as well. That entire mutliquote is fluff at best and spewing MM town at worst.

    So we can do Ozy v MM unless somebody has a better idea.

    -vote ozywho
    I'm not acting obtuse, stupid, retarded, dumb.
    I am obtuse, stupid, retarded, dumb.
    Some of us actually play the game, and it sometimes involves asking questions and stating your confusions.
    Instead of going out of your way to call me obtuse, why not help the game solving process and say what I'm missing?
    I don't mean this is a joke when I now say, I'm not looking forward to playing with you again. Like this is beyond belief. Your first actual real game post was like Day2 adressing people's thoughts on your SB16 vote, yet you go out of your way to call other people who play the game obtuse without even attempting the process in any way - just make a comment to insult.
    Like just let me play the game please? If you don't play why go out of your way to insult others "lol you're retarded here"? Un-fucking-cool mate.

    Ftr, it wasn't a multiquote, it was 1 quote with Quote Breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    If we're both town I'm quite concerned for all future games where we're both town, considering the differences in viewpoints we seem to continually have.

    The difference is that Loldebite wouldn't have said anything about the kill were it not for Norwee's post.....which he quoted three times to say three separate things.

    I take it that you don't think this is even a difference at all?
    Loldebite's opener would had been, like you said: "If loldebite had been the first to post on d2, it would've been a one-liner.", yes.
    But my question wasn't about loldebite. I understand fully what you said. My question was, why didn't Norwees opener deserve the same treatment? If loldebite's nothing-opener deserved a notice, why didn't Norwee's?
    The answer is mainly irrelevant now. My focus back then was on trying to figure out wether wolves attack the SB16 wagon or town do. But please try to read my questions more carefully in the future, it's wasting posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    oh ozy look another post where martin doesn't interact with MM
    Do you honestly believe it's not game relevant to point out that 2 slots never addressed each other, only chainsaw defended; especially when one of the main possibilities were "if wolves attack SB16 wagon, it's these 2 slots"?
    No need to be passive aggressive here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Imagine buying into Ozy's bs "don't mess with my neuroticism".
    Excuse me? All this time you thought I was lying and never bothered to mention it? You believe I was lying and didn't even bat an eye on my slot in all this time? Don't you think that someone lying for manipulation, or whatever, is an important detail for game solving?

    I'm sorry but this is personal. Idk if I even care that there were like 3-4 slots I'd rather have lynched before this comment if yours.

    -vote Renegade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Finishing my autosaved post after having to go...
    Actually idk how you have something autosaved? Some sites do it but no SC2Mafia, what sorcery is this?



    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hm, I assumed Mizery didn't like Stealth's vote on Frinckles and just didn't think much more about it, as the sheep votes were scummier because there wasn't much to sheep. The question about Mizery's reasons is highly relevant as well, though. As for questioning Loldebite, sheeping pretty much absent cases doesn't strike me as a town mindset.
    Fair about Mizery.
    Regarding Frinckles though, your first Day2 action was to mention him and loldebite, asking why they sheeped the Mizery vote.
    Frinckles never answered you, which you don't care about or have forgotten you ever asked, and even have him as your Top2 townread. Why even bother asking in the first place if it never mattered tbh?



    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Ozy: analysis of important stuff (such as EOD1 wagon, see above) + the "don't mess with my neuroticism" stuff, which would be really dirty to fake imo. (Meta note: don't make this into a meta of yours, this is a one-time read and pulling that intentionally would suck lol, hence I'm thinking you're town for doing it spontaneously)
    You say I analyzed 'important stuff'. How is it important if not worth enough to so much as mention or comment on or take into consideration?



    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    But while we're at it, how the hell would it be an admission of any "guilt" to ignore this lol?
    Felt like giving up \_(ツ)_/




    MM is a weird slot for me. Feels genuine but at the same time some of these things make me wonder how much of it is performative.
    I'm glad there's still time and some posts left for the day tbh.
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    that ignoring looks like admission of guilt
    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    srsly?
    -unvote
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    "Ftr, in the post where Varcron said to take a look at loldebite if SB16 flips green, Varcron comments on Frinckles were basically same level of suspicion."
    Nvm this was a lie.

    YOLO
    -vote Loldebite
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    3) Despite having some level of self-consciousness (as shown in point #1), they completely missed Varcron saying they should be looked at if sb16 flipped town and did not mention it at all. In fact, they responded to the very Varcron post which said that on d1.

    4) "it was a WIFOM kill" argument on slot that would highly suspect him in this situation
    Ftr, in the post where Varcron said to take a look at loldebite if SB16 flips green, Varcron comments on Frinckles were basically same level of suspicion. Both of those things were because he disliked the SB16 wagon, and 1 comment earlier Varcron said that you were the best lynch.
    I don't agree that Varcron's top suspect was loldebite. I think it was at least 4 players - you, frinckles, loldebite, mm. (Although his given lynch pool was "Oliver/Martin/SB", but it was before the comments about frinckles and loldebite) ((I guess MM wasn't on his radar anymore))




    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Also I think if loldebite is wolf then Norwee is probably spewed town. I feel like if that post was intentionally bad (and done intentionally bad as wolf), then if they were quoting a wolf partner they would've been voted by said wolf partner already. Aside from Norwee, I can't think of anything that would help tell who would be bussing Loldebite.
    Tbh I don't quite follow anything in this paragraph
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    As far as I can tell from their ISO's, only times I see Martin and MM posts acknowledging each other's existence was when are questioning other people's scumreads on the other.

    Wether the forming of the stealth wagon was woofie supported or the attack on the wagon is woofie supported, in both cases I think there can be possible connections made to a possible Martin wolf.

    I think I prefer loldebite/martin wagons today. Maybe Norwee.
    -vote MartinGG99
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    -If the last one is true, does that mean there's a wolf influence on that Stealth wagon?
    -If yes, then why? Counter wagon - martin - would have to be a wolf?
    -If no, then what are the odds given the EoD1 vote count?
    Spoiler : EoD1 vote count :
    Renegade (1 [L-5]): Marshmallow Marshall
    MartinGG99 (3 [L-3]): OzyWho, Renegade, Varcron
    Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-5]): Norwee
    Stealthbomber16 (4 [L-2]): Mizery, MartinGG99, Frinckles, Loldebite
    Frinckles (1 [L-5]): Stealthbomber16
    Fmpov, for the wolves to have had 0 influence on the stealth wagon, wolves would have to be in: MM, Renegade, Norwee.
    If there's 2 townies on that list, then I believe it'd make sense for the stealth counterwagon to have been a wolf? Because why would they inciminate themselves like that? I guess it's not as incriminating when other's do it as well?
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    So like
    I thought my comment was gonna be "yah I got nothing, wanted to sheep varcron, but now that he's dead I rather sheep MM and/or loldebite because they felt tonally same as varcron on D1, though it's objectively out of wolf range for varcron only."
    But then I read the comments and this happend:
    Loldebite (3 [L-2]): Mizery, Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99

    Thing is, I independently dislike loldebites D2 opener as well, but it's for the lack of disliking Norwee's D2 opener - which was a fluff/shit post when all their D1 posts were that already. +I'd think a reply on Renegades comment would had been appropriate.
    But nobody else dislikes Norwee's D2 opener as well, and it's like, why?

    As I see it,
    loldebite voted stealth because "both my top townreads are there".
    Martin voted stealth because self-pres.
    frinckles voted stealth because \_(ツ)_/
    Mizery voted stealth because \_(ツ)_/

    MM, I understand questioning frinckles reason. I understand not questioning Martins reason. But why not question Mizery's reason but do question loldebites reason by comparison?
    Mizery, what's the reason you voted loldebite now what's the reason you voted stealth yesterday? People seem to sheep your no comment votes
    Renegade, I think I saw you online at EoD? You didn't have the same feeling then? Your lack of vote to go with your D2 opener together with your lack of having the same comment at EoD1 feels a bit.. uncommitted.. tbh.
    Martin, why is "If loldebite had been the first to post on d2, it would've been a one-liner." a thing while Norwee's nothing-post deserves no comment?
    Norwee, any comments about the game WHATSOEVER would be greatly appreciated

    I genuinely can't tell whether:
    A) Townies have independently scummy vibes on loldebite
    B) Some townies do, while other wolfies jump on the wagon
    C) Wolves Night-chat resulted in this

    There's virtually 0% chance that the wolves Night-chat wouldn't have talked about the strange forming of the Stealth wagon.
    But the only 2 people who commented on the wagon forming were: Renegade and MM.
    Renegade's focus is/was on frinckles.

    -If the wolves did plan on targeting the Stealth wagon, then, out of the players who posted so far, only MM could be it.
    -I think MM is towny, but I want to hear his answer to my question though.
    -I think the signs indicate the targeting of the stealth wagon to more likely not be a wolf conspiracy?
    -If the last one is true, does that mean there's a wolf influence on that Stealth wagon?
    -If yes, then why? Counter wagon - martin - would have to be a wolf?
    -If no, then what are the odds given the EoD1 vote count?
    Spoiler : EoD1 vote count :
    Renegade (1 [L-5]): Marshmallow Marshall
    MartinGG99 (3 [L-3]): OzyWho, Renegade, Varcron
    Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-5]): Norwee
    Stealthbomber16 (4 [L-2]): Mizery, MartinGG99, Frinckles, Loldebite
    Frinckles (1 [L-5]): Stealthbomber16
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    Something something evolution make we be social creatures something something importance of apologies to us as a species and individuals something something

    Something something
    You know what I mean
    Something something
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    I think I suck at jokes :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Sorry about that
    You
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    Idk but I feel like Ren might be a bit short for 200 minimum word count.
    If SB16 reached the minimum requirement, it's only thanks to pasting the vote counts lmao.
    Oliwaz def getting modkilled though.
    -vote MartinGG99


    I wouldn't be surprised the wolf team to be something like Norwee + Oliwaz.
    Only MM not here? :/
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    Leaked video of Aamirus tempting young men to join the dark side!! https://youtu.be/XOTaEAm6xtU
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    Btw, in my language, there's 2 apologies:
    "I'm sorry"
    "please forgive me"
    Is it different in English language?
    (I think I just don't see the difference between "I'm sorry" and "I apologize"?)

    I myself see "please forgive me" as fake - because it feels like it's about what they want.
    While others (majority I think) see "I'm sorry" as fake/easy/lesser.
    Go figure.
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    (I read nothing past the mention of the last caveat)
    I don't apologize if I suspect the other person to be a narcissist, ever. It's like giving candy to a kid - they'll just ask for more on a more regular basis. Same goes for other things. Like, if I ever give you or anyone a compliment whatsoever - you can be damn sure I don't think you're anything close to a narcissist. The fear of feeding one makes it so I've a very difficult time complimenting people tbh. I have issues..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    1. MM was asking to a level of specification. If Mizery was truly voting people *just* for talking about MM he should've voted you as well lol. Context is important, and Mizery didn't mention what that important context was which made Norwee's comments bad.
    Context is important? Such as - before the Mizery's posts in question - my latest post had only me and MM having posted so far? Please tell me more about how I should have commented on Renegades or Varcrons or Mizerys future post, and how Mizery should have called me out for not doing so. This is insincere or, yet again, one or both of us is missing something here.


    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    2. You could've just pried more for what I was talking about. Or something. Just anything for a reaction that even may be the slightest helpful. Instead you didn't interact at all.
    I should have "pried more for what you were talking about"?
    Ok, what were you talking about in your 2 posts..
    1)"to be serious or not to be serious" + shitpost fluff.
    2) "I'm undecided about Ozy. What makes him LHF?"

    Idk what you expect me to "pried more for" wrt `1)`, but I did comment on `2)` - did I not?


    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    3. I thought that was an early game joke case, which later turned serious, so I didn't have any comments on your MM case then.
    You know MM's game history, and if you didn't - I told you.
    You saw how negative MM was looking there.
    If you couldn't put 2+2 together, I did it for you. Why would you take it as a joke, like, ever? What about it is a joke? Someone having emotions and being negative from randing wolf over and over and over?
    I even gave you MM's meta tell that blink and mag used. Again, is that a joke or something? Why wouldn't you take it serious?




    Idk, I don't connect with this Martin at all.
    -vote MartinGG9

    1 post left I believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Ozy's response is good enough.

    I still think he didn't follow-through but reading his other posts I felt he was town simply because they felt less fabricated or agenda-y. Ex: #51 and #56.

    I also thought his "ozy is X skill" reasoning was towny, I just wanted to confront him with those details I mentioned.
    I have 3 posts left, and I use this 1 to ask you - please respond to all 3 my answers of yours color questions with as great detail as you can. I'll probably decide between voting you, ren, norwee, perhaps mm again. And one of those names is greatly dependent on how cooperative you'll feel to me in a moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hume, out of this account! "It's not because scum have done 'too scummy to be scum' stuff in the past that they can still do it! Induction is INVALID!" :P

    I will only ask you one specific question in order to avoid you skipping my post like you did with the heart of my thoughts: are you actually tunnelled, or are you just scum? This question is of utmost importance.
    Bruh, it took me like 30 hours to be even capable of reading past "I only hate you", and even that was just by bits and pieces.
    Now I got past that and did a full re-read and, hence my unvote.
    Don't mess with my neuroticism; is my suggestion.
    Like, even when loldebite said "Anything I'm not replying to is not something I'm choosing to ignore but simply something I've got nothing to say about." - I had a tough time getting past what I felt as a "blatantly going against cooperating with me" for ignoring my question. It took effort to get past it. Again, don't mess with my neuroticism ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @OzyWho

    If you happen to be awake before EoD, I would appreciate any sort of response to this post.



    Regarding the orange part: It isn't a logical fallacy, its just fact because people typically don't want to chop the more capable players of a game. Some exceptions exist though, see Frinkles vote on me for example where I think he's basically fear-voting me.
    One or both of us is missing the point here. I was refering to how in your mind it's impossible for Ren to see me as the LHF here. Nothing of what you said here responds to that.


    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Regarding the light-pink part: Or maybe you didn't look into Mizery's vote enough to realize Norwee's post (which Mizery voted for) has a fair amount of text in it and so MM was asking for more specification on reasoning for the vote beyond just broadly "comments on MM".
    Mizery said "comments on people who aren't MM?" - where Norwee's post was about only MM (and my copypasta). No comments about Varcron, no comments about Mizery, no comments about Renegade in that post.
    There is 0 room for confusion here. I disagree with your idea.
    Maybe MM wanted to make sure? That's possible. But there is no "what exactly" to be confused about.


    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    1. Regarding the red part: No thoughts on me and yet you decided to NOT interact with my vote on you or even interact with Ren at all? (And you saw it some time ago, my vote was p#21 and you posted at p#37)

    You had like 8-12 hours (8 if counting my post after your p#37) to figure out anything more from my slot or what you could do to interact. But you just sat here and did nothing, and didn't generate any interaction with me.

    What happened to this belief earlier in the day phase? To me, you were demonstrating a willingness to make things just *happen* through interaction and discussion but here you've ignored me in that regard.
    You had 2 posts, with no content in them whatsoever. Maybe the least out of everyone except the 0 poster.
    I'm unsure of what you were expecting me to talk to you about tbh.


    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    This post pinged me as feeling very "Look-At-Me-I'm-So-Town" and given that you have not followed-through with it gives me the impression you are a wolf. This was the whole point of my choice to vote you even while I was undecided, because I needed more from you to see if I was right or wrong on that feeling.

    On a separate note: How come "If, MM is town, then Ozy is just bad." is regardless of whether I would be scum or not?
    Ngl, I don't understand what you're saying here. In my "LAMIST" post - I was transparent about my own actions while commenting on what makes MM wolfy there. You have no comments about my MM case there?
    If you read very very carefully that post of "then ozy is bad" - you'll find a process of elimination, where at the end you're compared with Ren who's more likely to be w/w with MM, assuming MM-preflip.



    Ftr,
    I don't want to lynch MM anymore, today.
    Ftr, I'm a highly neurotic person and if you aim any aggressiveness towards me - I have trouble looking past it. Same goes for when someone goes out of their way to not be cooperative, though that one is more possible for me to get past.

    I'd actually prefer a Norwee lynch now, but I'm on principle against it for they're the most new here and it's Day1.
    -unvote

    Not sure who'd be the best hit here atm
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    STOP SCUMPAINTING ME
    I'd never
    Spoiler : :

    Spoiler : :





    Btw, Mizery, thank you for being someone cultured in here
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    but also he actually read through ozy's copypastas and like. why. maybe not knowing what they were and therefore....idk. but yeah, taking them too seriously.
    Spoiler : :














    Spoiler : sorry. possibly. maybe. I just had to \_(ツ)_/ :

    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Norwee View Post
    What? This is an very rude way of addressing someone. Are you questioning my mental condition? Elaborate.
    Sorry, that's not what I meant.
    According to google, it seems I never knew the true meaning of unhinged? But I think everyone's been using it like that?
    Well, for clarification - I meant something like a combination of carefree and unhesitant. As in, you're not concerned about your optics enough to be a wolf. (Btw, isn't deliberately acting carefree n stuff what some people, mistakenly, define as `Open Wolfing` ?)



    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    @EveryoneNotOzy If I die, pillowpush Loldebite D2 and then CFD to Ozy when he doesn't expect it. I am completely serious. ( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡)

    **I'm invoking my Wildcard read on MM because I cannot read him ever. But I agree with Norwee that he's scummy, except that would make him Town in this case cuz' meta.
    -Agreeing with Norwee while not even mentioning me wrt MM being scummy.
    -Jokes about my slot, doesn't interact with me.
    -Uses scum tactic words like "pillowpushing".

    Bruh, I'd call us w/w if I were in other people's shoes right now.




    I seem to somehow to have voted Lag in #37. Go figure
    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    I can't see MM's mentality in context of his game history as anything but wolfy. Bruh is just oozing with negativity.
    His thoughts on Ren felt possible, but even that felt tonally more shade throwy than solvy. (#19)
    And that appeal of comparing my play to a different player in a different game where they shot someone SoD1? Honestly, FM should have it's own special set of that type of fallacies. Same goes for Martin's "he was good a different game, that means nobody should be eligable to feel like they're low hanging fruit this game". [The latter is irrelevant for my thoughts in this game]

    Loldebite's posts feel genuine. Every time I look at what he is referring to in his comments, I have this "ohh, I can see him seeing it like that" type of reaction. There's comments like ""MM's second post feels genuine to me, which doesn't mean it comes from town in this case, but I it does make MM less suspicious in my eyes" that rise my eyebrows - but he has multiple times indicated of feeling cognitive dissonance wrt his reads on people, which in the larger view of his slot becomes actually town indicative for me.
    loldebite, I have to ask you 1 question though. Why is Mizery your top townread?
    You originally said "Mizery's opening is meh IMO.", after which Mizery made only post #23 - where they voted you.
    I know you said "it really feels like Mizery is genuinely fishing" and that you heard people saying Mizery doesn't post as wolf.
    I honestly don't know what to expect here, I know you technically already elaborated, but like, I just want my mind at ease you know? I suppose it's all relative and everyone else is less Towny than Mizery?

    Varcron is just town imho.
    Like there's nothing more to it.
    Even a Town!Varcron is usually so careful/anxious/UTR, that he get's D1 lynched most of the games. A Wolf!Varcron, I think, is just frozen. Here he's almost the least UTR out of everyone, while I just agree with his scumread on MM to no end.

    I see nothing note worthy about Norwee and Mizery, though Norwee feels unhinged and Mizery feels different than the last game (only game I remember how she was) - where she was wolf. I guess I townlean them both. (thought's on this get added in a later paragraph, blame SB16)

    I foresee a frink policy lynch at some point ( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡)

    I love SB16's opening post tbh. His thoughts on loldebite mirror mine, and he put my attention to Mizery's early post where they voted Norwee. I see I originally misread Mizery's post and I like it, same as SB16. Also, Mizery's progression for switching away from Norwee for the reason that she stated - it's just so towny to me tbh. (MM's "As for Norwee, what exactly do you not like?" suggests to me he didn't try to look into it himself. I mean, it's literally 1 sentence to look up where she voted Norwee, which was also her only other post at the time)
    I can see SB16 liking MM's vote on me, if it takes nothing else into account. Which it doesn't, and idk why?

    Not reading #40's big part. Because of the poster being wolf confirmed and him talking to a pure villager| not worth my time.( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡)
    Neither is #43

    No thought's on Ren and Martin atm though. But by pre-flipping MM as a Wolf, I feel that Renegade's #11 makes him less likely to be W/W with MM than Martin's #39.

    My vote on MM is locked.
    I've about half my posts left.
    If anyone, who's not MM, has any specific questions (not generalized questions) - feel free to ask, but do do mention me though.

    @deathworlds
    If, MM and Martin are W/W, then Ozy is God
    If, only MM, then Ozy is average.
    If, MM is town, then Ozy is just bad.
    Calling it now.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Norwee View Post
    Where are the VC's? Guess i gotta make it myself huh.
    Spoiler : Copypasta :
    How to Vote

    Vote using the [vote] tags around the target's exact username.

    Code:
    [vote]Lag[/vote]
    Viewing the Vote Count

    Click the button labeled "Vote Count" on the top of the thread



    Clicking on the names in the Vote Count will take you to the post where they placed that vote.

    Viewing ISOs

    From the Ongoing Forum Mafia Games forum, click on the number of replies the thread has.



    In the pop-up, click on the number of posts made by the user you wish to ISO.



    Finally, it can be useful to click the "Expand All" button in their ISO.

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    ►►Re: MU's Mafia Championship, Season 9 - Nominations (vote here!)◄◄

    Lag's game starts in 15 hours, if anyone's interested to follow: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...a-Championship
    (Don't talk about the game here btw)
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    So, what happened here is I got the game rolling. (see we got something to talk about already and not just say hi to each other?)

    Honestly, it worked out much better than I hoped for.
    MM has this "I hate everything" mentality going on. For context: this'd be at least his 3rd wolf game in a row, if not more, and beyond that he has famously been wolf like more than half of the games on SC2Mafia. (see my last hosted game, where he got to be town after another long spree of wolfing - he was dancing on clouds as happy as he was!)
    blink and mag - the two players who are best at reading MM - have claimed they catch him wolfing when they see him not enjoying the game. I remember them teasing him that he can't fake that

    This MM? With this "I hate stuff" attitude? In the context of his game history and his game meta?
    I like it ╰(*︶`*)╯


    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Why are you wasting two posts on pure shitposting? I don't think you're even trying to be funny, so you're just throwing your posts away... What's your intent? It doesn't seem good.

    -vote OzyWho
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make few irrelevant posts at SOD then peace out for hours on end!!!! I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 1 shitpost over the next 48 hours, then once EOD rolls around I'll make zero additional shitposts!!! No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips!!!! I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous!!!!!!! The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles!!! I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat!!!!! I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough"!!! I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient!! I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear!!!!! More specifically, black boxer-briefs!!!!! You can't stop me!! You can't mislynch me!!!! You're powerless!!!!!!!!! I laugh in your face!!!!! I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want!!!!!! Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby!!!!!!! While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world!!!!!!!!! My armpits are bone dry!!!! I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do!!!!! Ligma!!!! What's ligma? Ligma balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -vote Skip
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    very towny post
    very wolfy p[ost
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library Gamethread◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    f ‎
    very towny post
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by deathworlds View Post
    Voting whilst not saying anything counts as a post
    I remember seeing a 1 post max per day game, so you had people giving scumreads and townreads and agreements and disagreements with codes of voting/unvoting.

    I'm sort of glad that won't be the case here, keeps the spirit of the setup in tact.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    Eliminations will always happen
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Gawd, i'd play the shit out of this low post game if I had any ounce of time
    I'd say 3045min per 24h should be plenty for this game? Maximum of 165 posts in 48 hours is like \_(ツ)_/

    I wouldn't expect 100 wallposts per game day
  41. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:starcraft 2 mafia

    Thread Author:oops_ur_dead

    Post Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: starcraft 2 mafia◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    @Lag epoz bf xekebe mnavl zmp
    I need a tip
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    Sorry
    That was meant as a /in

    Muscle memory or something \_(ツ)_/
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    -vote Varcron
  44. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Be my image hosting platform

    Thread Author:oliverz144

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    ►►Re: Be my image hosting platform◄◄

    Doesn't work
  45. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Hello everyone

    Thread Author:Norwee

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    ►►Re: Hello everyone◄◄

    MM is a pp hater
    Me personally, I think Exeter has a gorgeous pp

    I could be wrong about MM, but I'd need some convincing.
    A descriptive essay about his favorite pp would work
  46. [Restoration Request] ►►Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday◄◄

    give that man a cookie
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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    in your first game here
  48. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:ty guys x2

    Thread Author:WrathCyber

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    ►►Re: S-FM 343: Trip to the Library (11P)◄◄

    Is that 15 posts per 24h or 48h?
  50. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Hello everyone

    Thread Author:Norwee

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    ►►Re: Hello everyone◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Lmao hi! Looks like I really need to examine the source of this quote: people keep saying it...
    https://youtu.be/5-vyZ9lB5Y4
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