[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;867836]As an agnostic:
Antoine Lavoisier and the sciencists who made modern science are not God. They don't [I]know reality[/I], or at the very least not fully. It's not because you cannot explain something that it automatically involves divine beings. That is not really debatable.
If you need an example, think of those times when you lose something (like your pencil) and never find it again. It's very probably not that a supreme being made your pencil disappear. The more likely hypothesis is that... you're too imperfect to find it, because you don't know everything.
Now, I'm less certain of that part, but couldn't that matter/energy just have been sitting there for all eternity?
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=2230"]oops_ur_dead[/URL] imagine taking the Bible literally[/QUOTE]
Yes and no. Where did that pencil come from in the first place? A tree? Where did that tree come from, a seed? How was that seed made, how did all those particles come into existence in the first place?
My point is that science will never be able to achieve an answer to all its questions. Even if we as a species survive for millions and millions of years, and discover how our Universe was made, there will always be the same question of "How?" So my question is, up to what point are you willing to accept that God is real? Scientifically speaking, it is impossible for the universe to exist from a complete void out of nothingness. Much like Newton's Laws of Motion, nothing will spontaneously happen just because it "can".
Yes you can say that there is no "proof" of God, just like there is no proof of a fourth dimension. What if they are the same? What if God is just on a much higher dimension and we cannot comprehend because we're stuck in a three-dimensional world? If you make a game, let's say you make a 2d sandbox game just like Minecraft and you have intelligent AI in it that act on their own, does that make you a God?
Yes and no. Where did that pencil come from in the first place? A tree? Where did that tree come from, a seed? How was that seed made, how did all those particles come into existence in the first place?Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
As an agnostic:
Antoine Lavoisier and the sciencists who made modern science are not God. They don't know reality, or at the very least not fully. It's not because you cannot explain something that it automatically involves divine beings. That is not really debatable.
If you need an example, think of those times when you lose something (like your pencil) and never find it again. It's very probably not that a supreme being made your pencil disappear. The more likely hypothesis is that... you're too imperfect to find it, because you don't know everything.
Now, I'm less certain of that part, but couldn't that matter/energy just have been sitting there for all eternity?
@oops_ur_dead imagine taking the Bible literally
My point is that science will never be able to achieve an answer to all its questions. Even if we as a species survive for millions and millions of years, and discover how our Universe was made, there will always be the same question of "How?" So my question is, up to what point are you willing to accept that God is real? Scientifically speaking, it is impossible for the universe to exist from a complete void out of nothingness. Much like Newton's Laws of Motion, nothing will spontaneously happen just because it "can".
Yes you can say that there is no "proof" of God, just like there is no proof of a fourth dimension. What if they are the same? What if God is just on a much higher dimension and we cannot comprehend because we're stuck in a three-dimensional world? If you make a game, let's say you make a 2d sandbox game just like Minecraft and you have intelligent AI in it that act on their own, does that make you a God?
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